Official Scangauge II Thread - Share your Data, Discuss Settings ,Problems, Findings!

[TRD_Yaris]

Well, I give credit to those of you here on yarisworld.com that convinced me to get a Scangauge II unit. Btw, i bought mine off Ebay. There are 2 people selling for Logistic Systems (Manufacturer of Scangauge II) and they ship directly from the MFR in Mesa, Arizona. My unit arrived in 2 days, even though the USPS tracking didn't seem to work until after it arrived :laugh:
I have my Scangauge mounted in the drivers glove compartment, it hasn't been permanently mounted since i'm still trying to decide if having it that far away from the OEM cluster will be a problem..i.e. will it take too much time check two sets of clusters that are 2 feet apart. I may just put the velcro on the bottom of the scangauge and "set it" right in front of the OEM gauge cluster, angled torward the driver (obviously) and not blocking more than just the VERY TOP end of the Speedo (which i'd be using the Scangauge MPH read out, anyway..)
I still gotta consult the manual and make sure this wouldn't block my view of any EMERGENCY signals that light up on the gauge cluster in case of many many things from Power steering failure, brake failure, etc.etc.etc...

Anyway, when you leave your info (specifically MPG computed by Scangauge), make sure to give us:


LOCATION : (please advise us if you're in high altitudes, or your area has "special" gasoline for your area, usually major metroplexes use this to combat ozone action day situations..
SEDAN/LIFTBACK :
MANUAL/AUTOMATIC Trans :
A/C used much?
EXTRA WEIGHT: Do you ride light and solo, or do you pack in the family with your collection of lead weights in the trunk?
CITY/HIGHWAY RATIO: Do you mostly sit in traffic or pure highway cruisin'? do you drive in VERY shorts spurts and spend a good part of the time warming up you car?



I have been keeping track of Max:
*coolant temperature - texas heat in july..about 100 degree F at 6 pm..high humidity..my temps crept up to 203 just a few times, mostly riding at 188 except right after driving in short bursts.
*max RPMs (i've checked many times, and i've been keeping it under 4300..usually only about 3800)
*Idle RPMS..they aren't as smooth as the engine's silence led me to believe..they do fluctuate a bit even with Power electric fans, steering, etc.

After I've had some time to confirm my first reactions I will come back with better organized and complete data.

We might have a very special chance to understand our vehicles as a community if we get enough information from enough credible, well informed Yaris Owners. Plus the data logging USB function will be out next month (August 2006) which will take this ten steps further.
Even if this info doesn't help now, it will definitely help when/if you start modifying your vehicle. You can see how coolant temperatures and engine load, fuel economy,etc. are affected by the power you create. Also, it will be the FIRST SIGNS of any POSSIBLE problems that you may have.

Anyway, let me know what you guys think.

[pauljk]

Good idea! I've got a Scangauge II on the way for my auto Liftback. My mileage seems to be going DOWN instead of up. I've got about 3500 miles on it so far.

Hopefully the Scangauge will help me see what's going on.

Paul

[ketel0ne]

LOCATION : 60 miles west of Wash DC (52 mile 1 way commute) Daily Includes a small mountain as well.
SEDAN/LIFTBACK : Liftback
MANUAL/AUTOMATIC Trans : Auto
A/C used much? All the time
EXTRA WEIGHT: 1 additional passenger to get HOV-2
CITY/HIGHWAY RATIO:50/50

First 5 tanks:
08/08/2006 37.8
08/04/2006 37.0
08/01/2006 36.3
07/30/2006 34.4
07/26/2006 34.7

US MPG

[TRD_Yaris]

my last 2 tanks have fetched me between 29.8 and 30.x MPG. ALL CITY DRIVING working delivery, and it's pretty hot here in Texas (A/C full time). Amazingly, the Scangauge II is EXTREMELY precise when it comes to gas mileage. i filled up 10.48 gallons and the Scangauge stated 10.45 for 310 miles ( i believe, i need to break out the gas receipts). the other fillup was pretty close, but i wasn't at the same gas station pump so i can't say it was consistent.
Coolant temperatures stay about 186 degree fahrenheit and have gotten up to 205 a few times when it sits in direct sun idling (between deliveries).


Sorry, i'm not even keeping with my own "standards" as stated above. I haven't had enough time to get organized.

[ketel0ne]

184 to 190 on the coolant temp.

4200 RPM is my peak.

Idles at about 700rpm.

[Chris07LB]

Whats the going rate for this tool?

[pauljk]

Whats the going rate for this tool?

$165 often on eBay, $169 at http://www.scangauge.com.

[pauljk]

TRD-Yaris-

One other bit of useful info to add to your template is:
What speed to you generally cruise at on the highway?

Obviously, that will have a big impact on mileage.

Paul

(still waiting for my Scangauge!)

[seriousfun]

... I may just put the velcro on the bottom of the scangauge and "set it" right in front of the OEM gauge cluster, angled torward the driver (obviously) and not blocking more than just the VERY TOP end of the Speedo (which i'd be using the Scangauge MPH read out, anyway..)
...

That's exactly where I mounted mine - this doesn't block anything for me, and I have to glance over there ocassionally to make sure I'm not hitting warp speed
:evil:

Accuracy seems to be good, consistent with my mileage log in MPG, for example.

Don't leave this up there in all-day sun! The first time I did this, I thought my SGII was toast - the display wasn't readable. After it cooled-down, the display worked fine, though.

[argylesocks]

That's exactly where I mounted mine - this doesn't block anything for me, and I have to glance over there ocassionally to make sure I'm not hitting warp speed
:evil:

Accuracy seems to be good, consistent with my mileage log in MPG, for example.

Don't leave this up there in all-day sun! The first time I did this, I thought my SGII was toast - the display wasn't readable. After it cooled-down, the display worked fine, though.

anyone got a picture of it mounted??
how did you run the cable to the obdII port?? i have only had the car for 12hrs, so i havent ripped it apart yet :smile:

[ketel0ne]

TRD-Yaris-

One other bit of useful info to add to your template is:
What speed to you generally cruise at on the highway?

Obviously, that will have a big impact on mileage.

Paul

(still waiting for my Scangauge!)

My avg speed for my commute comes in at 49mph most days.

I have 10 miles at 40 or below. 20 mile stretch that is 55mph (almost no traffic) 13 miles at 65mph (No traffic til toll area) and 12 miles at 55mph (Hov lane runs at about 35mph.

Prolly more info than you wanted. :)

[pauljk]

My avg speed for my commute comes in at 49mph most days.

I have 10 miles at 40 or below. 20 mile stretch that is 55mph (almost no traffic) 13 miles at 65mph (No traffic til toll area) and 12 miles at 55mph (Hov lane runs at about 35mph.

Prolly more info than you wanted. :)

No, that's great! :-)

I'm a little envious of your numbers - we have a similar length commute, but my numbers started out a tad over 35 and lately have been going down. I've never seen a 37. This tank I'm driving VERY conservatively to see what happens. Plus I bumped the tires up to 34psi.

The cruise control may be hurting due to over-aggressive downshifting, but I'll probably need the Scangauge to pinpoint that. It does a great job of holding speed, but I'm not sure downshifting on downhill stretches does anything for FE, and the CC causes it to do that.

If I don't get the SG before this tank is up, I may drive the next tank without CC to see what happens.

Paul

[ketel0ne]

I have the 15 inch tires, the sidewall max is 44psi and that is what they are at. No cruise control at all. Do the speed limit on every road unless you are coasting. The scangauge will help ALOT. I had alot of practice with it before the Yaris though, I had it in the Geo Metro for about a year and half before that. I had tanks of 50+ in that, but it didn't have air and it is very uncomfortable in comparison.

[drdavidr4u]

Please post pics of how you all mount the scanguage !!!

Thanks!

[60 Somethings]

We are considering a ScanGauge for our liftback, and I like the idea of housing in in the driver's glove box.

The real question is "wire routing". Would look nice with a small hole drilled in back of the 'floor' of the driver's glove box (large enough for the samller connector to pass through), then use a grommet in the hole surrounding the wire and route the cable down to the OBDII plug. Hopefully the extra cable could be hidden up under the dash - it's like a 6' cable from what thay say.

How practical is this idea?

How have current users installed theirs?

Thanks.

[pennystocks]

LOCATION : 40 miles north of chicago
SEDAN/LIFTBACK : sedan
MANUAL/AUTOMATIC Trans : auto
A/C used much? only when hot
EXTRA WEIGHT: really just me
CITY/HIGHWAY RATIO: 90% city

With the AC on when driving around town delivering i get about 28
Normal city for me is about 30-33
Driving like a grandma is about 35-38 city
Normal driving off work is about 40
Highway is 45-50

Some old stuff from about 2000 miles or so

46.8 - Avg miles per gallon
9.2 - miles drove
3004 - RPM max
55 - MPH max
37 MPH average (real average was 40-55 not counting stop lights)

Thats w/ like 3 full stop/starts at lights, and about 6 or so slow downs to like 20 mph (turns and wat not)

Did this one when i first got it today, just a quick test:

3.3 Mile drive
2228 Max RPM - Was Grandma'in it
37 MPH Max
24 MPH Avg - Was really 33 ish w/ the cruse on, but got caught a light, and amazingly enough, got caught at a turtle crossing the street LMAO
0.1 Gal. Fuel Used
190 Degrees F Max
53.1 MPG AVG oh yea, i love it

Latest one, all highway, no slow downs at all except one toll booth:

30.9 miles drove
3400 max RPM
61 MPH avg
51.2 MPG avg

I mounted it to the vent using zip ties later on but here are my first pics.

My only problem with it is that you cant have instant MPG and average MPG in the display at the same time. I emailed em and they said they might do this in the future. You can also hook it up to your computer, they said they're doing that later on so hopfully you can upgrade it with a laptop

http://clantnp.net/hosted/ass/images/yaris/sg2.jpg
http://clantnp.net/hosted/ass/images/yaris/sg3.jpg

Upclose:

http://clantnp.net/hosted/ass/images/yaris/sg_standard.jpg

MPG, RPM, MPH, TPS (Throttle)
http://clantnp.net/hosted/ass/images/yaris/sgr1.jpg

fWT (water temp), fIA (air intake temp), VLT (volts duh), GPH (gallons per hour)
http://clantnp.net/hosted/ass/images/yaris/sgr2.jpg

IGN (timing), CLSD LP (closed/open loop), LOD (engine load), MAP (manifold pressure)
http://clantnp.net/hosted/ass/images/yaris/sgr3.jpg

http://clantnp.net/hosted/ass/images/yaris/sgr4.jpg

[pauljk]

Got my Scangauge last night! :-)

And, my last tank came in at 37.5. My best so far. Maybe the temps in the high 90s we'd been having torpedoed my mileage. (I was seeing low 30s for awhile)

ketelOne:

With your 15 wheels, did you find the default speed/miles reading on the SG was dead on? I checked miles for a 5 mile stretch against mile markers on freeway this morning, and it was right on! So, I guess that means I can believe it's speed readouts without adjustment.

Paul

P.S. I'm also interested in how others have routed the cable. So far mine's in the drivers glovebox, with cable trailing down the front. Not a great long term arrangement.

[fnkngrv]

I know nothing about this equipment...does it compile previous data stored then from when the vehicle first left production?

[ketel0ne]

Got my Scangauge last night! :-)

And, my last tank came in at 37.5. My best so far. Maybe the temps in the high 90s we'd been having torpedoed my mileage. (I was seeing low 30s for awhile)

ketelOne:

With your 15 wheels, did you find the default speed/miles reading on the SG was dead on? I checked miles for a 5 mile stretch against mile markers on freeway this morning, and it was right on! So, I guess that means I can believe it's speed readouts without adjustment.

Paul

P.S. I'm also interested in how others have routed the cable. So far mine's in the drivers glovebox, with cable trailing down the front. Not a great long term arrangement.

Congrats on your tank, higher air temp should produce higher mpg, but you will use your AC more.

Yep speed and miles dead on.

My cable is the same way at least for the time being.

[ketel0ne]

I know nothing about this equipment...does it compile previous data stored then from when the vehicle first left production?

It is mostly a real time guage for:
Fuel Economy
» Fuel Rate
» Battery Voltage
» Coolant Temperature
» Intake Air Temperature
» Engine Speed (RPM)
» Vehicle speed (MPH)
» Manifold Pressure
(not available on some vehicles)
» Engine Load
» Throttle Position
» Ignition Timing
» Open/Closed Loop

and a trip computer for:
» Maximum Speed
» Average Speed
» Maximum Coolant Temperature
» Maximum RPM
» Driving Time
» Driving Distance
» Fuel Used
» Trip Fuel Economy
» Distance to Empty
» Time to Empty
» Fuel to Empty

and finally a scan code reader:
» Reads Trouble Codes
» Reads conditions that set the Trouble Code
» Clears Trouble Codes
» Turns off "Check Engine" light

» Tells you when vehicle is "Ready" to pass OBDII testing
» Make and store up to 10 rewritable special codes
to send to the vehicle computer

[TRD_Yaris]

Got my Scangauge last night! :-)

And, my last tank came in at 37.5. My best so far. Maybe the temps in the high 90s we'd been having torpedoed my mileage. (I was seeing low 30s for awhile)

ketelOne:

With your 15 wheels, did you find the default speed/miles reading on the SG was dead on? I checked miles for a 5 mile stretch against mile markers on freeway this morning, and it was right on! So, I guess that means I can believe it's speed readouts without adjustment.

Paul

P.S. I'm also interested in how others have routed the cable. So far mine's in the drivers glovebox, with cable trailing down the front. Not a great long term arrangement.


MY Cable is also trailing down along the left side of Steering Column..not exactly pretty right now but i've got it "taut" enough that i never even touch it with my knee. It looks like it will BE REALLY EASY to run the cable behind the plastic dash and drill a hole directly into the driver's glove compartment (<--only on a Yaris..driver's GC...hehe). If i can find another Driver's GC Cover, I will cut it so that my Tachometer and Scangauge fit flush into it, and PROPERLY run the cables so that the Driver's GC is still accessible and useable for storage.

[TRD_Yaris]

darn you, echo hrs :mad: why you gotta "one-up" me? i really like your setup..you REALLY did a great job.

[Chris07LB]

Beautiful work! :eek:

[tds12]

I mounted mine resting on the stearing column directly behind the steering wheel. Took some drawer liner from the wife. Doubled it up to get a little lift. One drop of super glue to the scan guage. Scotch tape the liner to the column. I now have a tach and MPH in the normal positon. The scan guage weighs nothing so one small piece of scotch tape holds it on the stearing column.

[tds12]

http://www.yarisworld.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=1106&stc=1&d=1155404240

My scanguage mounting.

[365Motorwerks]

If anybody still or now wants on of these little beautys just get in touch with me, I'll have a deal in the sponsor section (http://www.yarisworld.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=19)in the classified!

And again echo_hrs has done a great job on that faceplate! Awesome mount! :thumbsup:

[AustinYaris]

How are you guys installing these? How come I don't see any wires in any of the installs. Is everyone cutting holes in the area behind the Scangauge?

[gonzo452001]

Mine is on the steering column also. I ran the wire behind the gauge on top of the column easy to get it thu the crack between the dash and steering column you just push it thu from under the dash couldn't be easyer could be wrote better I am sure

[AustinYaris]

Mine is on the steering column also. I ran the wire behind the gauge on top of the column easy to get it thu the crack between the dash and steering column you just push it thu from under the dash couldn't be easyer could be wrote better I am sure

Most likely, that's what I'll do too. I wonder how everyone else that didn't mount it on the steering wheel column did it. I saw a pic of one on the forums mounted right in front of the speedometer, and couldn't see any wires.

Can't wait to get mine in a few days.

[uncleyaris]

How much this thing cost?

[365Motorwerks]

How much this thing cost?

Check it out in the sponsor classified... http://www.yarisworld.com/forums/showthread.php?t=4312

[AustinYaris]

Got my ScanGuage2 finally. Here's my set up. I just stuck the wire under the steering wheel column.

[gonzo452001]

You didn't have to come out on the outside like that cable is plenty long enough to keep it on the inside and still plug it in

[eco]

I just hit 47.2 the other day,try and beat that,I still had half a tank left.
I can get 40mpg with moderate accelaration,and 70-75mph on the road.
http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n54/ecooce/47-1.jpg
http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n54/ecooce/47.jpg
http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n54/ecooce/40.jpg

[AustinYaris]

You didn't have to come out on the outside like that cable is plenty long enough to keep it on the inside and still plug it in

Got it done... thanks... I didn't realize that panel underneath the steering column detaches so easily.

[jamal1984]

can this thing read my tires Pressure?

[spkrman]

can this thing read my tires Pressure?

:bow:

:respekt:

no.

[gonzo452001]

The best I have got so far for a whole tank is 44.6 mpg hope to hit 45mpg sometime

[sf180th]

Just wanted to show how I mounted mine, the picture is exactly the veiw I have while driving, the gauge doesnt block my veiw of the cluster.

[MudBug]

are you guys using the velcro?

That stuff won't fly here in AZ, the sticky stuff just melts and makes a mess.

[BailOut]

That stuff won't fly here in AZ, the sticky stuff just melts and makes a mess.
I used to have the same problem in Texas, but then I tinted my windows and started using a windshield sun shade, and kept my windows very slightly cracked. I never had a problem like that again, and got a much cooler interior for myself along with it.

Once you do the tint, shade and crack thing you'll wonder how you ever got by without it.

[nebulight]

My ScanGauge came today, and I'm trying to figure out a clean OEM look. I plan on getting a Nakamichi CD400 single din unit with a Metra dash kit. I'm curious to see if anyone was able to put the scan gauge in there in the pocket.

BTW, I finally got 41mpg today, before I got my scan gauge. I hope that it will help me get to my goal of 45!

[365Motorwerks]

My ScanGauge came today, and I'm trying to figure out a clean OEM look. I plan on getting a Nakamichi CD400 single din unit with a Metra dash kit. I'm curious to see if anyone was able to put the scan gauge in there in the pocket.

BTW, I finally got 41mpg today, before I got my scan gauge. I hope that it will help me get to my goal of 45!

-->From page 2, echo_hrs has the look nailed!


I made a custom shroud for mine, and mounted it in the 1/2 din under my stereo...Cable run behind the dash to the OBDII port...

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b320/echo_hrs2/Yaris/Interior/y6.jpg
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b320/echo_hrs2/Yaris/Interior/sc2.jpg
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b320/echo_hrs2/Yaris/Interior/sc3.jpg

Cheers

[nebulight]

Yea, I saw that one, but I was curious about the pocket. I really don't feel like making one like that because I need to remove it from time to time to use it to check codes on my friend's cars.

I would think that the lower pocket would be nice if it could fit right in, kinda like my wideband sensor on my old car, it would look nice and out of the way when I have it in the car, but can still take it out easy if needed:

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/119/279570148_7b8aa2dc9e.jpg

[nebulight]

Taken from eBay, I'm curious if anyone has done it, or has measurements so I can take a ruler to the scan gauge:

http://imagehost.vendio.com/bin/imageserver.x/00000000/reneentaylor/998219b.jpg

[365Motorwerks]

Taken from eBay, I'm curious if anyone has done it, or has measurements so I can take a ruler to the scan gauge:

I have the same single din adapter and the ScangaugeII doen't go right in you would have to cut the lower pocket a bit to fit...

[nebulight]

Any pics?

[MudBug]

I used to have the same problem in Texas, but then I tinted my windows and started using a windshield sun shade, and kept my windows very slightly cracked. I never had a problem like that again, and got a much cooler interior for myself along with it.

Once you do the tint, shade and crack thing you'll wonder how you ever got by without it.



OK I tried it and after 2 weeks I looked at it today and found the velcro is sliding down the steering column as the glue melts in the heat.

I'll have to find another way to mount it.

[365Motorwerks]

Any pics?

Unless somebody beats me to it I'll take one for you later..

[nebulight]

Unless somebody beats me to it I'll take one for you later..

Thanks man! That'll be nice.

[churp]

Has anyone done any realtime milage checks at different speeds...say 50-55-60-65-70-75? I realize everycar would be different, but figures like this on a calm day on a straight level road would give an indication where milage drops off....for some of us that can't quite shell out the money for one right now.

Thanks in advance if anyone would take on the challenge! :smile:

[BailOut]

Depending on temperature, road conditions, etc. our most efficient speed is in 5th gear/OD somewhere between 35 and 45 MPH.

For highway speeds 51-55 MPH is the most efficient, with a large drop-off between 55 and 65 and a punishing drop-off above 65.

[eco]

Bailout,I must disagree,I can still pull 41-43mpg at 70-75mph,and 52.5mpg at 53-58mph,cruising when possible,from 58-53mph,not letting speed drop below 53.I do have an opened intake and exhaust,so this does help,but either way,there is only a 20% diffrencen from say 55-75mph,not such a huge drop off,actuallly pretty proportional, relative to your speed.

[BailOut]

eco,

Most folks would call a 20% difference in fuel efficiency a huge drop-off.

[365Motorwerks]

Thanks man! That'll be nice.

Sorry took a bit to get the camera and computer in the same place at once:wink: Anyways you can see you would have to trim out both the top and bottom of the pocket to get it to slip in..

http://2687856818.monstercommercesites.com/ProductImages/scangauge/scangauge_din.jpg
http://2687856818.monstercommercesites.com/ProductImages/scangauge/Single_din_adaptor.jpg

[zerofloat]

Depending on temperature, road conditions, etc. our most efficient speed is in 5th gear/OD somewhere between 35 and 45 MPH.

For highway speeds 51-55 MPH is the most efficient, with a large drop-off between 55 and 65 and a punishing drop-off above 65.

These speeds are what shows best on my scangauge too.

[nebulight]

Sorry took a bit to get the camera and computer in the same place at once:wink: Anyways you can see you would have to trim out both the top and bottom of the pocket to get it to slip in..

Thanks for the pics, looks like it's either going behind the steering wheel or in the upper glove box behind the steering wheel, but I'd hate to have it open whenever I drive....but I guess it would be out of the way when I'm not in the car :confused:

[blacksan]

I was going to order mine from a form vendor, but they are no longer valid. :frown: So, could someone point me to a reliable stocking vendor with good pricing, please!

BTW, If I read correctly you will be able to interface the Scanguage with your PC in the near future?

[BailOut]

blacksan,

Here is a link to the vendor we use at CleanMPG.com:

http://www.jdoqocy.com/click-2168984-10356313?sid=www.cleanmpg.com

Don't hold your breath on hooking it to a computer anytime soon. That functionality has been promised for a while and will actually be much easier to implement on Linux and Mac first.

[blacksan]

blacksan,

Here is a link to the vendor we use at CleanMPG.com:

http://www.jdoqocy.com/click-2168984-10356313?sid=www.cleanmpg.com

Don't hold your breath on hooking it to a computer anytime soon. That functionality has been promised for a while and will actually be much easier to implement on Linux and Mac first.

That links me to think geek, is that correct?

[BailOut]

Doh - it is supposed to land at Think Geek but something is wrong with the final URL. Here's a direct link:

http://www.thinkgeek.com/gadgets/electronic/8426/

[marcus]

how does it plug in..it looks like it just plugs in to the computer slot under the steering.. is that right..also does it convert to km/hr as well rather than miles.... thanks!!

[marcus]

where do you guys get this.. i actually want one..

[marcus]

coooooool....

[eco]

Ohya,bailout,I forgot to mention,you would also gain more then 20% in time,actual time,like a 100min trip,would become 75min to 80min trip.Time is money to alot of people that have long trips to work,and travel alot.Wouldnt you like to have more time to live aswell,and dont try to come back with some,speed is dangerous shit.

[BailOut]

Time is money to alot of people that have long trips to work,and travel alot.
Conversely, these are the people that have the opportunity to make the largest financial and global impacts in how and when they travel.

Wouldnt you like to have more time to live aswell,and dont try to come back with some,speed is dangerous shit.
The quality of my personal time is more important then the quantity of it. If my air and environment are dirty, my neighbors are at war in Iraq to protect the flow of oil, etc. then the quality of my personal time is greatly diminished.

As for the safety of speed the math speaks for itself. Allow me to use Einstein's formula for Kinetic Energy (KE):

http://www.glenbrook.k12.il.us/GBSSCI/PHYS/Class/energy/u5l1c1.gif
where m = mass of object and v = velocity (speed) of object

When a vehicle collides with something its kinetic energy must be transferred or expended. The less KE there is to dump the better off anyone and anything involved is.

However, my slowing down has much more to do with emissions and fuel economy than safety. The physics of air change above 55 MPH and again above 70 MPH, becoming more resistant the faster you go.

[foober]

Ohya,bailout,I forgot to mention,you would also gain more then 20% in time,actual time,like a 100min trip,would become 75min to 80min trip.Time is money to alot of people that have long trips to work,and travel alot.Wouldnt you like to have more time to live aswell,and dont try to come back with some,speed is dangerous shit.

Today I saw both kinds that drive most of us drivers crazy. A couple of old persons driving way less than the speed limit backing up traffic as far as the eye can see. And saw a young person passing almost everyone and running red lights which will eventually cause an accident.

[OtownYaris]

Pardon my ignorance, but where exactly does the scan gauge connect to? Next to the hood release lever?

[BailOut]

You got it, OtownYaris.

[OtownYaris]

Thanks :thumbup:

[marcus]

would this thing allow to to adjust your timing. and i dont get this......

"Make and store up to 10 rewritable special codes
to send to the vehicle computer " what this mean.

[eTiMaGo]

The only things that will let you adjust the VVT-i timing are the Camcon:

http://www.powerenterpriseusa.net/products/electric/camcon/camcon.htm

Or Greddy's new V-Manage:

http://www.greddy.com/products/display/?Category=electronics&SubCategory=72

Honestly, I don't think a timing adjustment will resolve your engine noises, but you can always give it a try...

[captainzerocool]

Here is the better seller from ebay.

http://motors.search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZsterlingda

I hope that link works.

[marcus]

thanks for the tips.. i actually have toyota to look a it tomorrow they have to bring in another yaris manual in there to compare that noise during acceleration.. we chall see soon..

The only things that will let you adjust the VVT-i timing are the Camcon:

http://www.powerenterpriseusa.net/products/electric/camcon/camcon.htm

Or Greddy's new V-Manage:

http://www.greddy.com/products/display/?Category=electronics&SubCategory=72

Honestly, I don't think a timing adjustment will resolve your engine noises, but you can always give it a try...

[marcus]

what the fastest 0-100km.hr or 0-60 m.h on your scangauge guys??

[marcus]

does scangauge 2 have a shift light or shift alarm on it??

[uncleyaris]

no.

[marcus]

daym!

[gonzo452001]

I think I found some velcor that won't melt got it at home depot say's it's dashboard velcor it was over 90F here today didn't melt .

[365Motorwerks]

I think I found some velcor that won't melt got it at home depot say's it's dashboard velcor it was over 90F here today didn't melt .

Nice now we got to get some of the folks in Arizona to try it out they always seem to have the crazy temps!
:thumbsup:

[MudBug]

Nice now we got to get some of the folks in Arizona to try it out they always seem to have the crazy temps!
:thumbsup:


My SGII constantly slides down the steering column because the glue melts.

I'm making a mount for it from some kydex I have. I'll post pics when it's done.

[Thedunpeal]

My SGII constantly slides down the steering column because the glue melts.

I'm making a mount for it from some kydex I have. I'll post pics when it's done.

post results quicker before it gets 120 here :eek:

[marcus]

what can you guys scan.. on your scan gauge..

1. air intake temp
2. engine coolant temp.
3. ???

[BailOut]

http://www.scangauge.com/features/digitalgauges.shtml

My current default setup is like this:

MPG RPM
WT V

I like the WT (water temperature) because I use an engine block heater and because I can go for long distances with the engine turned off (FAS), and I like the V (battery voltage) because I use a solar charger and because I restart the engine a lot (due to FAS'ing).

This Fall/Winter I will trade the V display for IAT because I plan on insulating my engine and blocking the grills to help keep the block and fluids warm (this helps with fuel efficiency in the cold months), so I'll need to monitor how the IAT affects the WT for a while, at least until I get it all "dialed in". I'll need to use the IAT reading again in the Spring to help determine when to un-block the griils and whatnot.

[MudBug]

what can you guys scan.. on your scan gauge..

1. air intake temp
2. engine coolant temp.
3. ???


MPH RPM
MPG V


I rarely use the speedo on the car, the displey is so course I can't tell if I'm doing 71mph or 76mph quickly and since I'm surrounded by speed cameras I need to know for sure I'm doing under 10mph over, that when the camera gets you. So I use the speedo on the scanguage.

[Kioshi]

Sorry fo bumping this thread up again...but i have a quick question....
Does the scanguage function as a tach as in, tell you your rpm? I know it tells me max rpms on a trip, but I'm wondering can it tell me my rpm as I go from a complete stop to cruising to changing gears before redline....?

Thanks ~

[seriousfun]

....
Does the scanguage function as a tach ....?


Yes!

[marcus]

DOES scangauge read our yaris timing degree would it show if it retarding or advancing???????

[marcus]

DOES scangauge read our yaris timing degree would it show if it retarding or advancing???????:evil:

[BailOut]

DOES scangauge read our yaris timing degree would it show if it retarding or advancing???????
It shows timing but I haven't quite figured out how to read it yet. My commute can bring it all the way down to 3 or all the way up to 32, and it seems to hang around 22-23 when driving with steady throttle on flat ground and calm RPM.

[marcus]

wow that advance by 10 deg.. but retards at almost 20 degree....dang...
thanks bailout!!

[Kioshi]

Yes!

That didnt realy answer my main concern but thanks anyway.
Just wondering if it shows rmps consistantly....like an actual rpm gauge does...?? From stop to go, to stop again while driving~

I emailed the guy, but all he said was.....it tells you rpms of up to 9999.

[ECHOKnight2000]

That didnt realy answer my main concern but thanks anyway.
Just wondering if it shows rmps consistantly....like an actual rpm gauge does...?? From stop to go, to stop again while driving~

I emailed the guy, but all he said was.....it tells you rpms of up to 9999.

I have a scanguage II and I usually have it on the rpm setting. You can have 4 settings on the screen at the same time obviously choose what you want (cause there's more than four). Anway the rpm one is digital so there is A LITTLE delay, but its relatively quick as far as showing the change of rpm and yes from start to stop or cruising, and since its digital its going to jump around a lot, but it works, if that makes sense. To be honest when I first got it I was a little disapointed in the rpm display but I'm still happy with it. I generally know what rpm certain speeds are. I have an auto so its not like I really need it but its fun to know. And no its not analog like a tach usually is, its digital.:thumbsup: Hope that helps!

[Toyotech]

just a heads up for you future buyers...wish i saw this thread earlier

http://www.3n1autocomputer.com/groupbuy.html

saves ya some cash...

this is a fantastic tool.

[blacksan]

just a heads up for you future buyers...wish i saw this thread earlier

http://www.3n1autocomputer.com/groupbuy.html

saves ya some cash...

this is a fantastic tool.

WOOOOOOT, what group is this through? I appreciate it!

[Toyotech]

WOOOOOOT, what group is this through? I appreciate it!


??? corolla/matrix. u askin for a code or? sorry...just confused.

[Kioshi]

I have a scanguage II and I usually have it on the rpm setting. You can have 4 settings on the screen at the same time obviously choose what you want (cause there's more than four). Anway the rpm one is digital so there is A LITTLE delay, but its relatively quick as far as showing the change of rpm and yes from start to stop or cruising, and since its digital its going to jump around a lot, but it works, if that makes sense. To be honest when I first got it I was a little disapointed in the rpm display but I'm still happy with it. I generally know what rpm certain speeds are. I have an auto so its not like I really need it but its fun to know. And no its not analog like a tach usually is, its digital.:thumbsup: Hope that helps!

Thanks ECHOKnight2000, I really appreciate your response to that.:smile: I guess I wont mind a couple seconds of delay...just as long as I know about where in the clutch releasing it reaches a certain rpm before giving it gas.

[tk-421]

I have just sighted this ScanGauge Mounting kit (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/BlendMount-your-ScanGauge-II-3-in-1-Auto-Truck-Computer_W0QQitemZ170125882557QQihZ007QQcategoryZ6 755QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem) on eBay. What do you guys think? Other than the price, it looks like it might be the perfect addition to the ScanGauge.

[BailOut]

tk-421,

I'd pay $10 or $15 for something like that, but not $45.

Running the cable up to the windshield would be a PITA, too, but would look nice once it's done.

[leasaunce]

question, can you change mpg to L/100km?? or mph to kph???

[uncleyaris]

NO!!

[EggMan]

question, can you change mpg to L/100km?? or mph to kph???

The answer is Yes. When KM is selected for distance and Liters are selected on fuel measurement, the fuel economy will be reported as mentioned. (LHK)
I found this info on page 14 as a note in the user manual.
My best run so far with this tool was 46.63 MPG. 40%city 60%highway. I have raised the tire pressure by 3 or 4 psi. I would like to know what other tricks can be applied for better fuel economy.

[Jerkratt]

so how do you put in custom codes? stil cant figure that out ive had mine for a while now

[EggMan]

so how do you put in custom codes? stil cant figure that out ive had mine for a while now

From main menu, select options as fallows.
1. MORE
2. SETUP
3. UNITS
From here you can change from MPH to KMH and so forth.

[Jerkratt]

that i know those are not custom codes those are the display

[tk-421]

question, can you change mpg to L/100km?? or mph to kph???

Yes. (http://www.scangauge.com/support/faq.shtml#20)

[yoyoche]

Found this neat post on Scanguage Tips & Tricks by Dan over at CleanMPG. You need to check it out.

http://www.cleanmpg.com/forums/scan-gauge/t-scangauge-tips-and-tricks-5901.html

[marcus]

cool!!!!!!!!!!1

[ECHOKnight2000]

That's so cool! Thanks for the link. Its nice to get the insider view of it. And it sounds like the next one is going to be even better with more read outs! I hope they don't bump the price to high.

[Rotorheader]

http://www.3n1autocomputer.com/groupbuy.html

Bump This offer is still valid; I did my order yesterday.


NOTE: In my hands 48 hours after I ordered it, installed and working in about 15 minutes.

[Pavel Olavich]

The only complaint I have of the ScanGauge II is that when the car is in DFCO mode (search this term if you don't know what it is), the ScanGuage II will not show GPH at zero. Anyone know otherwise?

[marcus]

The only complaint I have of the ScanGauge II is that when the car is in DFCO mode (search this term if you don't know what it is), the ScanGuage II will not show GPH at zero. Anyone know otherwise?

thats maybe because DFCO doesnt exist... i still think its a myth..again others opinion differs..:iono:

[Pavel Olavich]

thats maybe because DFCO doesnt exist... i still think its a myth..again others opinion differs..:iono:

Oh, it's real, bruda....but I think it's more effective with manual trannies.

[marcus]

Oh, it's real, bruda....but I think it's more effective with manual trannies.

pavel.. i really wanna believe it ,just to be honest with you..but i did my research in regards to "dfco"..not on a toyota history not even on makers of vvti engine.. where did this come from?. who started it ? and how come scangauge2 doesnt adjust to it when in use... :iono: :iono: :iono:

i found this: it did exist but not the way it was presented..

Deceleration fuel cut-off:
"A device which stops the flow of fuel to the carburetor or injectors when the vehicle rapidly decelerates in the event of a crash thus preventing the possibility of a fire or explosion."

[Pavel Olavich]

pavel.. i really wanna believe it ,just to be honest with you..but i did my research in regards to "dfco"..not on a toyota history not even on makers of vvti engine.. where did this come from?. who started it ? and how come scangauge2 doesnt adjust to it when in use... :iono: :iono: :iono:

i found this: it did exist but not the way it was presented..

Deceleration fuel cut-off:
"A device which stops the flow of fuel to the carburetor or injectors when the vehicle rapidly decelerates in the event of a crash thus preventing the possibility of a fire or explosion."

Well, I myself do not have any credible evidence that it does exists....I think the ScanGauge II is buggy, frankly. Not saying it is a bad product....on the contrary it's a great product, but it does have it's strangeness....but to the point of DFCO, I've tried a few tests of my own, as mentioned by BailOut, and I tend to think it does exist...but I could be wrong too...

[Pavel Olavich]

Marcus, read this Toyota white paper on ECU stuff, pluse DFCO too (page 11). It is this paper that suggest that our Yaris does in fact have DFCO....

http://www.autoshop101.com/forms/h43.pdf

[marcus]

Marcus, read this Toyota white paper on ECU stuff, pluse DFCO too (page 11). It is this paper that suggest that our Yaris does in fact have DFCO....

http://www.autoshop101.com/forms/h43.pdf

ya pavel i was just reading that earlier.. now is that for vvti for yaris and if dfco exist i still dont get how it works. do you down shift on higher revs so cut off last longer or what...?? well im now much of a believer then again i always down shift to slow down anyways so in a way i have been using the what so called "DFCO"...

lets get back to scangauge 2... whan is scangauge3 coming out??:iono:

[BailOut]

The SGII cannot definitively show a DFCO mode because there are no OBDII codes for fuel injection. As such, each manufacturer makes their own codes, and as of today they are proprietary.

I'm not sure why anyone would doubt the existence of DFCO. It's not science fiction. It is documented in many places, and can be tested by any individual using what I outlined here (http://www.yarisworld.com/forums/showthread.php?t=4248). It's a simple concept, and whether a car has DFCO or not is highly obvious when the test I outlined is performed on a vehicle that doesn't have it (when I tried it on my rental Aveo (I can't believe GM actually produced this car... no thought, no soul, no reliability, CELs at the drop of a hat, etc...) its AT immediately went into a protective mode, and when I tried it on our old Tacoma it was like driving through a meter of water).

There are even varying levels of DFCO. One of the rental cars I got stuck with when my Yaris' door was being repaired was a POS GMC Canyon pickup. It was a real PITA to drive down the mountain because (aside from handling like an overweight marshmallow that would understeer or oversteer but never rail a turn) it took like 3 or 4 seconds of engine braking to start DFCO, but only half of the 6 cylinders. Then, after 8 - 10 seconds more, it would shut the rest of them off. It made for some rather unpredictable but inevitable engine braking.

[Pavel Olavich]

The SGII cannot definitively show a DFCO mode because there are no OBDII codes for fuel injection. As such, each manufacturer makes their own codes, and as of today they are proprietary.

I'm not sure why anyone would doubt the existence of DFCO. It's not science fiction. It is documented in many places, and can be tested by any individual using what I outlined here (http://www.yarisworld.com/forums/showthread.php?t=4248). It's a simple concept, and whether a car has DFCO or not is highly obvious when the test I outlined is performed on a vehicle that doesn't have it (when I tried it on my rental Aveo (I can't believe GM actually produced this car... no thought, no soul, no reliability, CELs at the drop of a hat, etc...) its AT immediately went into a protective mode, and when I tried it on our old Tacoma it was like driving through a meter of water).

There are even varying levels of DFCO. One of the rental cars I got stuck with when my Yaris' door was being repaired was a POS GMC Canyon pickup. It was a real PITA to drive down the mountain because (aside from handling like an overweight marshmallow that would understeer or oversteer but never rail a turn) it took like 3 or 4 seconds of engine braking to start DFCO, but only half of the 6 cylinders. Then, after 8 - 10 seconds more, it would shut the rest of them off. It made for some rather unpredictable but inevitable engine braking.

I tend to agree with you, however I don't see a need for a special code to signify DFCO, because if DFCO is in process, then the injectors are no longer feeding gas, so then the GPH should be zero, yea? I've got an auto tranny in my Yaris, by the way, and I think DFCO works in conjunction with the grade logic, and torque converter lock up processes, but I can't be so sure. Yet.

By the way, that POS Chevy Aveo is not made by Chevy....it's Korean (Kia or Hyundai)...it's a rebadged POS, for sure...it cost less then our Yaris, but the cost of ownership over 5 years is much more.

A bit off topic, but what kind of oil do you run? What is your change intervals?

Thanks!

[BailOut]

The SGII's GPH reading isn't done directly from a flow meter or anything. It is inferred by your RPM, speed, and air flow. This is why you still see ~0.2 GPH when in DFCO... that's the closest the SGII can get according to its internal math as you're still producing high RPM.

Check your PMs for my oil metrics. I don't want to derail this thread. :wink:

[dawasherpa]

I bought the scangauge II and tried plugging it into my 2007 Yaris MT. I had the key ON and also tried with the engine running, but all i got was "Connecting...." and never quite connected. I would like to know if anyone has had this problem.

Thanks

[Pavel Olavich]

The SGII's GPH reading isn't done directly from a flow meter or anything. It is inferred by your RPM, speed, and air flow. This is why you still see ~0.2 GPH when in DFCO... that's the closest the SGII can get according to its internal math as you're still producing high RPM.

Check your PMs for my oil metrics. I don't want to derail this thread. :wink:

I was under the impression that the GPH value was input to the ScanGauge II via the ODB port, and not calculated by it....I certainly could be wrong however. :confused:

[BailOut]

I bought the scangauge II and tried plugging it into my 2007 Yaris MT. I had the key ON and also tried with the engine running, but all i got was "Connecting...." and never quite connected. I would like to know if anyone has had this problem.

Thanks

I've never seen this issue but I would try re-seating the OBDII connector as it sounds like it might not be a solid connection.

If it still doesn't work then I'd try completely disconnecting everything for an hour or so, then hooking it back up and immediately starting the engine. This will give it the best chance for making that initial connection.

If it still doesn't work at that point you should take your car to a local shop and ask them to hook their reader up, just to see if theirs works or not. If it does you know you have a bad SGII and you can RMA it. If it doesn't you know you need to take the Yaris to the dealership to get the OBDII port working.

[dawasherpa]

I've never seen this issue but I would try re-seating the OBDII connector as it sounds like it might not be a solid connection.

If it still doesn't work then I'd try completely disconnecting everything for an hour or so, then hooking it back up and immediately starting the engine. This will give it the best chance for making that initial connection.

If it still doesn't work at that point you should take your car to a local shop and ask them to hook their reader up, just to see if theirs works or not. If it does you know you have a bad SGII and you can RMA it. If it doesn't you know you need to take the Yaris to the dealership to get the OBDII port working.

Reseating the connector did not work. To make sure SG II wasn't the problem, I hooked it up to Dodge Neon of my friends and it worked fine. So, now I know it's the Yaris's OBDII connector. I have scheduled a appointment to look into it, although they were telling me that the SGII may not be compatible with Yaris. But I know SGII is compatible as you guys have it working for you. So, we'll see what the problem is.

Thanks

[dawasherpa]

Reseating the connector did not work. To make sure SG II wasn't the problem, I hooked it up to Dodge Neon of my friends and it worked fine. So, now I know it's the Yaris's OBDII connector. I have scheduled a appointment to look into it, although they were telling me that the SGII may not be compatible with Yaris. But I know SGII is compatible as you guys have it working for you. So, we'll see what the problem is.

Thanks

Turns out, I got a bad Scangauge. The company was nice enough to exchange it for a new one, which worked right away.

Thanks

[gonzo452001]

on my yaris scan gauge says open loop any time i take my foot off the gas pedal as soon as I give it gas it say closed loop this is all the time not just when the engine is cold is this normal?

[enkid]

Edit 9/18/07, additions/corrections

Yes, it's normal. In fact it's our DFCO indication for the Yaris. Here's why:

DFCO is by definition, an Open Loop condition, because it's a fuel cutoff. Closed loop is when the computer is using signals from various sensors to meter how much fuel to inject. At the same time, the amount of fuel injected is one of the things that creates the conditions that determine what the signals will be from those sensors. In other words, it's a closed control loop. DFCO overrides this and cuts off the fuel injectors.

If you see Open Loop any other time, except briefly after a cold start, or briefly if you're drag racing or under very heavy load like climbing a steep hill, then something is probably wrong and most likely the check engine light will come on....and a trouble code will be waiting for the scanner function of the scangauge to read.

If you were driving a manual transmission, you'd find it will also switch back to Closed Loop when the engine speed drops below about 1000RPM with it in gear and your foot is off the gas pedal. At the same time you'd feel a very slight surge of power. That's DFCO switching out to keep the motor from stalling. Then you'd quickly have to stomp on the clutch and throw it into neutral, or into low gear and go....or it'll stall anyway.

On the other hand, scangauge fuel consumption calculation is unaware of DFCO, so it registers higher consumption than if you were in neutral. In my case, this helps offs offset consumption error calculation in the other direction.

I have a 96 Chevy conversion van which sat with a dead transmission and engine problems for 2 years. I've been reviving it this summer....the SG came in really handy diagnosing....and I was surprised to find it too, has DFCO.

[andries]

ScanGauge gives by the abbreviaton "MAP" no value ( Yaris 1.8 TS)

Can someone tell me whether that is normal?
Has the Yaris no sensor for the "MAP" value?

Thanks

[365Motorwerks]

ScanGauge gives by the abbreviaton "MAP" no value ( Yaris 1.8 TS)

Can someone tell me whether that is normal?
Has the Yaris no sensor for the "MAP" value?

Thanks

Correct MAP and FPR both don't display as the ECU won't give a value.

[Revsson]

Where is the best place to buy a ScangaugeII nowadays? I thought I saw something
before the hack about a group buy?? or one of our vendors ?? :iono:

[cali yaris]

from me. I cannot advertise my price due to manufacturer restrictions, but...

.... I'll be so HAPPY to receive your PM :thumbsup:

[Appalachian Trail 2007]

I tend to agree with you, however I don't see a need for a special code to signify DFCO, because if DFCO is in process, then the injectors are no longer feeding gas, so then the GPH should be zero, yea? I've got an auto tranny in my Yaris, by the way, and I think DFCO works in conjunction with the grade logic, and torque converter lock up processes, but I can't be so sure. Yet.

By the way, that POS Chevy Aveo is not made by Chevy....it's Korean (Kia or Hyundai)...it's a rebadged POS, for sure...it cost less then our Yaris, but the cost of ownership over 5 years is much more.

A bit off topic, but what kind of oil do you run? What is your change intervals?

Thanks!

It's a Daewoo rebadged to a Chevy

[Revsson]

from me. I cannot advertise my price due to manufacturer restrictions, but...

.... I'll be so HAPPY to receive your PM :thumbsup:

PM sent.

[365Motorwerks]

Where is the best place to buy a ScangaugeII nowadays? I thought I saw something
before the hack about a group buy?? or one of our vendors ?? :iono:

I did the group buys a while back and I'm back as a vendor with ScanGauges a-plenty. Checkout the sponsored sales area for my posts. :thumbup:

[andries]

Is it possible to change the $ sign into the € sign on a ScanGauge?

[365Motorwerks]

Is it possible to change the $ sign into the € sign on a ScanGauge?

Not right now, you can do liters but the amount stays the same.

[andries]

Not right now, you can do liters but the amount stays the same.


oke,thanks

[EasyDriver]

I was researching scanguage on the internet and read that an owner was having problems with a Rostra cruise control and Scanguage. Apparently they both were getting their signal from the ECU and if the cruise was on scanguage wouldn't work. Cruise would work if Scanguage was turned off though. Has anyone else had this kind of experience? If this is a problem, is there a workaround?

Mileage...I am not getting anthing near 35 of above in mileage, with 32.655 bing my best early last fall. I'm driving conservatively....although most of my driving is in town. I am just over the 2000 mile mark, and am hoping that it will improve as mileage goes up. Of course I realize that the extra cold winter that we have had here in Southern Michigan has taken its toll!


I will be getting an oil change in the near future, maybe that will make a positive difference.

[jambo101]

I have an 08 with the dealer installed rostra cruise and my Scangauge works just fine.As for the crappy gas mileage it will get better as the temps heat up,snow tires come off and the gas gets reformulated to summer specs,on a trip last summer i was getting high 40'smpg highway,around town low 40's .
Welcome to the forum.

[cali yaris]

Scangauges are still in stock, and still at a price I can't advertise. PM if anyone is interested in one. :thumbsup:

[EasyDriver]

I have an 08 with the dealer installed rostra cruise and my Scangauge works just fine.As for the crappy gas mileage it will get better as the temps heat up,snow tires come off and the gas gets reformulated to summer specs,on a trip last summer i was getting high 40'smpg highway,around town low 40's .
Welcome to the forum.
Thanks Jambo101 for the quick response, it's appreciated. Maybe the rostra/scanguage conflict was a fluke, and not the norm!

[Klink10]

Got my Scangauge today. Thank you Micro Image for the great price and fast shipping. Folks, if you can.....shoot Garm a PM for the best deal out there bar none.

[MGargano]

I ordered my Scangauge II today but I'm curious as to how it lights up? Does it automatically light when you turn the headlights on?

[1NZYaris1]

automatically lights up when turned on , then you can change the color to
what ever you want :thumbsup:

[MGargano]

automatically lights up when turned on , then you can change the color to
what ever you want :thumbsup:

Thanks!

[MGargano]

Has anyone tried using the 'Blendmount' to install their Scangauge II above the rearview mirror? It looks like a pretty good idea, just not sure if it'll fit since there's not much clearance between the mirror and windshield. Their website doesn't say what vehicles it works with, so I'm curious if any Yarii owners have tried this.

http://www.blendmount.com/showthread.php?t=2

[Klink10]

Has anyone tried using the 'Blendmount' to install their Scangauge II above the rearview mirror? It looks like a pretty good idea, just not sure if it'll fit since there's not much clearance between the mirror and windshield. Their website doesn't say what vehicles it works with, so I'm curious if any Yarii owners have tried this.

http://www.blendmount.com/showthread.php?t=2

Was going to but I like you believe there will be a fitment issue. I am working on some ideas now, none of which include that.

[1NZYaris1]

Has anyone tried using the 'Blendmount' to install their Scangauge II above the rearview mirror? It looks like a pretty good idea, just not sure if it'll fit since there's not much clearance between the mirror and windshield. Their website doesn't say what vehicles it works with, so I'm curious if any Yarii owners have tried this.

http://www.blendmount.com/showthread.php?t=2

No Need i Velcro's to the roof and i won't move

[MGargano]

No Need i Velcro's to the roof and i won't move

LOL! Nice! Where were you before I wasted $45 on the Blendmount?

[MGargano]

Anyone have a problem with the Scangauge saying 'Connecting...' then turning off after about a minute without giving any data? I tried all the troubleshooting FAQs in the manual, but none seem to get it working. Weird thing is, it was working fine for a week or so, until today.

[EasyDriver]

Nice job...looks professional! How did you run the wiring?

I got one 2 days ago and just ran it around and under the right side of the steering column. It tucks right into a seam along that side and just stays in place (pretty well). It rests on top of the steering column and when I park it I just slide it into the left glove box.

[1NZYaris1]

Nice job...looks professional! How did you run the wiring?

I got one 2 days ago and just ran it around and under the right side of the steering column. It tucks right into a seam along that side and just stays in place (pretty well). It rests on top of the steering column and when I park it I just slide it into the left glove box.

Thanks
I just tuck the wire under the edge of the roof panel then removed the A pillar cover ,and then under the dash. 5 minute job. :thumbsup:

[Jem_hadar]

FINALLY (as of Christmas day) the proud owner for a ScanGauge II! :biggrin::biggrin:


We are considering a ScanGauge for our liftback, and I like the idea of housing in in the driver's glove box.


That's were I leave mine. Just pop open the drivers glove box while crusing when wanna have a peak. Leaving it up when wanna actively watch it dont bother me. And i like that i dont need to Permanently mount it anywhere inside (so great to have that glove box there!!)

[yarisugi]

I copy/pasted the trouble codes for Toyota and put it on one page.
Feel free to print it out and store it in your glovebox in case you need to reference it.
(Word document file)

[HighVelocity]

I mounted mine in the drivers glove box also. I drilled a 1/2" hole in the back wall and fed the wire through and velcroed the gauge to the top wall.

HV

[127.0.0.1]

didn't know this thread was here. cansf ambient air works on us 2010 yaris 5 door hb

[BuildCode]

I've changed one of my Scanguage spots to read out TPS. How come the max is 81 (have seen 82). Is this accurate that the butterfly valve is only opening 81%, not that I think I'm missing out on some performance, but curious if by design there's no reason for it to open to 100% - or - the reading is not accurate.

FYI - I've never used a Scanguage in any other car :smile:

[Rick]

If Toyota's firmware design is similar to Ford's (I'm guessing it is) then it's not inaccurate and also not a direct indication of throttle position. To avoid needing precision calibrated throttle position sensors ($$$), they use a % of possible measurement range. The firmware learns what % indicates closed throttle and what % indicates WOT. Individual TPS sensors don't have to be 'exactly' like each other and that makes them much cheaper to produce.

It also means that as the TPS changes slightly over the life of the component it creates no problem. The firmware adjusts for the changes.

In the Ford world 0 volts = 0% and 5 volts = 100%. The Ford TPS output doesn't go down to 0v and doesn't go up to 5v. I see 21% to 92% on my Cobra.

There is a 'normalized to 100%' proprietary extended parameter but Scangauge doesn't use it.

[BuildCode]

cool! that's good to know, thanks for the detailed response

[Billiam]

Anyone tried this vent mount with their Scangauge?

http://cgi.ebay.com/Car-Air-Vent-Mount-ScanGauge-II-Perf-Meter-OBD2-/350322935971?cmd=ViewItem&pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item5190dfc8a3

[jambo101]

Didnt a vent mount clip come with the device?or maybe it was some other electronic gizmo,what ever it was it didnt work very well, I found a bit of velcro
was the easiest and most versatile way to mount the gauge on the dash just in front of the steering column.

[Billiam]

Didnt a vent mount clip come with the device?or maybe it was some other electronic gizmo,what ever it was it didnt work very well, I found a bit of velcro
was the easiest and most versatile way to mount the gauge on the dash just in front of the steering column.
I haven't ordered mine yet, but I don't think it comes with any mounts (maybe velcro). Anyway, I saw the windshield mount and this "vent" mount on ebay. Just wondering if someone had actual experience with this mount and Scangauge together. Our out-board vents are kinda weird, so I can see it not working too well. But if it does, it's a better solution than velcro, IMO.

[kazama82]

i notice that my odo meter is not the same as scangauge odo meter..scangauge shows faster increment compare to my car odo..anyone notice this?..for example now my car odometer at 90km, but my scangauge odo already showing 96km..

[bkndacn]

So I just bought my Scangauge II from Garm and I've had it in my car for about 3-5 days now .....

On the first day that I had it in the car I drove down to DC (about 120 miles one way) as I do every friday night (work) and my scangauge told me I averaged 45 mpg for the whole trip (95% HWY 5% CITY) and then on the way back I averaged 43 (prob bc CC was on)

But looking at everyon elses #s I feel like thats too high!! lol and Ideas as to what might be causing this false readout? if in fact it is a false maybe i just have a super FE Yaris!

[jambo101]

So I just bought my Scangauge II from Garm and I've had it in my car for about 3-5 days now .....

On the first day that I had it in the car I drove down to DC (about 120 miles one way) as I do every friday night (work) and my scangauge told me I averaged 45 mpg for the whole trip (95% HWY 5% CITY) and then on the way back I averaged 43 (prob bc CC was on)

But looking at everyon elses #s I feel like thats too high!! lol and Ideas as to what might be causing this false readout? if in fact it is a false maybe i just have a super FE Yaris!
Dont you have to set a standard on the device by recording your first full tank of gas then inputting some parameters on your second tank of gas??

[bkndacn]

yeah but it still tells me what my average MPGs are

[Kitt]

Hey guys, just got mine today works pretty well!!
http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/185852_10150121676858921_520518920_6321761_1737351 _n.jpg

I've got a few questions:

Anyone have experienced issues by placing it over the steering wheel because of the direct sunlight it may get there?

Is there any way I can read whenever the a/c compressor clutch is engaged?

Is it true that I can send codes into the ECU, like turning on/off the radiator fan for example?
http://www.verboom.net/info/speedster/20071016/xgauge.html

[jambo101]

yeah but it still tells me what my average MPGs are

Is that the setting where the mpg reading is all over the place or the X gauge reading that posts average mpg by the day,the trip or the tank.?

[Kitt]

soo what is your average water temp and idle rpm??

[Kitt]

Has anyone been able to add the air to fuel ratio gauge on xgauge?

[toy_toronto]

Thinking about getting one, found this info and thought I'd share this here:

$127.99 ($159.99-20% off) Use Promo Code AECCDX1 to get 20% off
Offer 20% off expires 04/18/11


Link here
http://images.jcwstatic.com/jcwhitney/sku/images/small/I_445576_SW_1.jpg (http://www.jcwhitney.com/scan-gauge-ii-for-vehicles-built-after-1996/p2019681.jcwx?TID=R110415UN0002&om_u=AATm8V&om_i=_BNqAqPB8Z86WTM#)

[jambo101]

soo what is your average water temp and idle rpm??

My water temp stays around 184-188
Idle RPM 710

[toy_toronto]

* crossposting to this official thread =)


Finally decided to get one and I think it's great -- note the current units on display are in metric:

The gauges I use for now are:

http://i53.tinypic.com/amei51.jpg


• 7.4 L/100KM = 31.7 MPG (Ave Fuel Economy per tank)
• 421 KM = 261 Miles (Distance to Empty tank)
• 13'C = 55.4'F (outside ambient temperature)
• 789 RPM idle <-> Switches to Instantaneous MPG



* Edit: By the way, this is how I mounted the SC II against the windshield.

Material is plexi-glass from left over projects -- pretty strong/sturdy and does not move at all. Total cost = $0 :biggrin:

http://i56.tinypic.com/28kszk1.jpg

* View from backseat
http://i54.tinypic.com/2ijojf8.jpg



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[Revsson]

^Interesting installation.
I was thinking of trying something using the same "velcro" strips that the Illinois tollway
gives out to mount the I-Pass.
How hard is it to route the cable under the headliner?
Do you have any pics looking back into the windshield to see the back side of the install?

[toy_toronto]

Sorry I don't have any pics looking from behind that's why I drew up the sketch of the mount. You can't tell it's there looking from the outside due to the tint on the (upper) windshield. It's not difficult to hide the wire under the headliner, just tuck it in under there.

I actually used the same velcro/fasteners they give you to mount your EZ pass or Transponder toll devices to your windshield.

From my pictures above you could actually see two other velcro/3m dual lock strips (right behind the ScanGauge) where I stick my transponder to.

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[Revsson]

Now that you mention it, I do see the strips of velcro.
Illinois wants theirs mounted lower and more toward the driver's side,
IIRC. I mounted it more centered and below the tint, so it actually
sits behind the mirror and isn't seen by me unless I crank my head a little. :smile:

Thanks for the info and ideas!

[Amdkt7]

Got mine last night. Did the basic setup, have not adjusted the cut off setting, have not filled up. This morning I checked what I could on my drive to work. The speed readout was about 1.5 mph below the read out on my GPS, pretty close. The instant MPG reading seemed pretty close to the Eco-meter built into the car. The average for the trip was a little higher than the eco-meter. The SCII indicated 53 mpg avg, the Toyota Eco-meter indicated 51 MPG. I guess as I dial it in it should get more accurate.
I have mine set to fast updating, and I find it easy to watch.

[nookandcrannycar]

* crossposting to this official thread =)


Finally decided to get one and I think it's great -- note the current units on display are in metric:

The gauges I use for now are:

http://i53.tinypic.com/amei51.jpg


• 7.4 L/100KM = 31.7 MPG (Ave Fuel Economy per tank)
• 421 KM = 261 Miles (Distance to Empty tank)
• 13'C = 55.4'F (outside ambient temperature)
• 789 RPM idle <-> Switches to Instantaneous MPG



* Edit: By the way, this is how I mounted the SC II against the windshield.

Material is plexi-glass from left over projects -- pretty strong/sturdy and does not move at all. Total cost = $0 :biggrin:

http://i56.tinypic.com/28kszk1.jpg

* View from backseat
http://i54.tinypic.com/2ijojf8.jpg



.

Those 3M Dual-Lock fasteners are fantastic. I've been using them for probably close to 10 years for various car related and other uses.

[mario98c]

Anyone know if the scangauge can display knock retard values?

[jambo101]

As an instrument to measure MPG my Scangauge is useless and cant be trusted to give an accurate reading..

With a full tank of gas and sitting at the gas station I put in all the required parameters for setup in miles and gallons as the trip was entirely in the USA,also included an Xgauge setting to show me average MPG per day,went to the fillup and pressed DONE then off for a 2000 mile trip,MPG read steady at around 36MPG through the first tankful but when i refilled the tank with 8 gallons of fuel going to the fillup icon it said i just put 12 gallons in so i adjusted/recalibrated the 12 gallons back to 8 gallons and started off again but now the MPG reading was reading a steady 25MPG.Throughout the trip the amount of gas i actually put in got further and further away from reality and i saw fluctuations as low as a steady 10MPG to as high as 90MPG:confused: The problem was probably my my fault but i cant figure out what i was doing wrong as the set up is quite straight forward and subsequent fillups should have read very close to the amount i was actually putting in the tank but in reality that fillup number just got further away from actual gas input..:confused:
Any one got an idea whats going wrong?
And can anyone suggest a less problematic MPG device?

Thanks

[CTScott]

As an instrument to measure MPG my Scangauge is useless and cant be trusted to give an accurate reading..

With a full tank of gas and sitting at the gas station I put in all the required parameters for setup in miles and gallons as the trip was entirely in the USA,also included an Xgauge setting to show me average MPG per day,went to the fillup and pressed DONE then off for a 2000 mile trip,MPG read steady at around 36MPG through the first tankful but when i refilled the tank with 8 gallons of fuel going to the fillup icon it said i just put 12 gallons in so i adjusted/recalibrated the 12 gallons back to 8 gallons and started off again but now the MPG reading was reading a steady 25MPG.Throughout the trip the amount of gas i actually put in got further and further away from reality and i saw fluctuations as low as a steady 10MPG to as high as 90MPG:confused: The problem was probably my my fault but i cant figure out what i was doing wrong as the set up is quite straight forward and subsequent fillups should have read very close to the amount i was actually putting in the tank but in reality that fillup number just got further away from actual gas input..:confused:
Any one got an idea whats going wrong?
And can anyone suggest a less problematic MPG device?

Thanks

The problem with how devices like ScanGauge, Ecometer, etc. calculate MPG is what they do when the car is standing still. If the car was always in motion it is very accurate, but as the ratio of in to not in motion increases it becomes a crap shoot.

As for the 10MPG to 90MPG fluctuations; That is actually normal. When the Yaris is under heavy load the MPGs decrease significantly. For example, driving up the 1/2 mile hill of the road that I live off of, I see a pretty steady 8-12 MPG. Coming down it I start off in the 80-90 MPG range (when my foot is still on the pedal) and I quickly hit DFCO where the scangauge shows 9999.

How DFCO is handled is probably another issue with how these devices do their calculations as well. You have infinite MPG during this period, so depending on how you average that in can skew things quite a bit in the opposite direction of averaging the theoretical 0 MPG while stopped.

[YHWilliam09]

The only time my ScanGaugeII hasn't been very accurate was the first tank or two before setting it up. After that, it has been within 1mpg accurate on every tank. Maybe you got a faulty device, but I don't know.

A lot of people also love the UltraGauge, and it's less than half the price of a ScanGauge.

http://www.ultra-gauge.com/ultragauge/

I don't have any experience with an UltraGauge, so I can't tell you if it is any better or not. I do love my ScanGaugeII though.

[AGDS91]

Hi, ScanGauge it's compatible for JDM Vitz RS 2005 ncp91-AHMVK?
Es compatible con ese modelo?

[pribek]

Yes it is.