my newest suspension mod...... [Archive] - Toyota Yaris Forums

ROCKLAND TOYOTA

10-29-2008, 02:59 PM

picked this up from DAN at WE SELL CAR PARTS and i must say i do like this part. my normal route to work this morning didn't have the usual rough ride associated with a drop and 18's. i reccomend this to anyone who wants a inexpensive mod. price was 55 bucks shipped and yes i did lose my rear seatbelts for this install........

ROCKLAND TOYOTA

10-29-2008, 03:00 PM

couple of more:

kou

10-29-2008, 03:13 PM

very nice did this help with flex and could you put the panels back on.

cali yaris

10-29-2008, 03:16 PM

lost the seatbelts, huh?
I guess you can take the seats out then? Can't have passengers back there!

KCALB SIRAY

10-29-2008, 03:19 PM

The pics show with the panels off, are you able to put them back on without any modification to them?

ROCKLAND TOYOTA

10-29-2008, 03:25 PM

very nice did this help with flex i thought/felt that it did......

The pics show with the panels off, are you able to put them back on without any modification to them? NO, panels must be trimmed to be put back to stock looking appearance......

Astroman

10-29-2008, 05:05 PM

Wonder when the naysayers will start posting that it does nothing? :rolleyes:

If I ever have mod money again, I might try this. Is there still a way you could keep those rear belts?

WeeYari

10-29-2008, 05:05 PM

How exactly does that soften the ride? I don't get it.

KCALB SIRAY

10-29-2008, 05:22 PM

Wonder when the naysayers will start posting that it does nothing? :rolleyes:

If I ever have mod money again, I might try this. Is there still a way you could keep those rear belts?

I don't see how you could keep them in this situation, you'd have to shorten the bar. It looks adjustable but to what lentgh i'm wondering (the nut on the end of the bar at each end). I'll have to look at my belt when I get out of here. Depending on the width of the belt mount area it could just slip over it, but I highly doubt it.

ROCKLAND TOYOTA

10-29-2008, 05:24 PM

How exactly does that soften the ride? I don't get it.

SOFTEN? who said that.

WeeYari

10-29-2008, 05:26 PM

I don't see how you could keep them in this situation, you'd have to shorten the bar. It looks adjustable but to what lentgh i'm wondering (the nut on the end of the bar at each end). I'll have to look at my belt when I get out of here. Depending on the width of the belt mount area it could just slip over it, but I highly doubt it.

Even if you could keep the belts, the bar is positioned forward of the rear seat backs. People be whacking their heads on it.

KCALB SIRAY

10-29-2008, 05:29 PM

Even if you could keep the belts, the bar is positioned forward of the rear seat backs. People be whacking their heads on it.

Looks pretty high though, you'd have to have someone about 6' 5" to hit IMO. I'd swipe the pads off my sons huffy and wrap em around it, lol

Astroman

10-29-2008, 05:33 PM

Nerf bar style

WeeYari

10-29-2008, 05:36 PM

... i must say i do like this part. my normal route to work this morning didn't have the usual rough ride associated with a drop and 18's...

SOFTEN? who said that.

My interpretation of your 'rough ride' statement.

PETERPOOP

10-29-2008, 08:39 PM

got you

largeorangefont

10-29-2008, 09:59 PM

Wonder when the naysayers will start posting that it does nothing? :rolleyes:

If I ever have mod money again, I might try this. Is there still a way you could keep those rear belts?

That upper bar works a bit, in hatchbacks, but you can't have anyone in the back seat so that kinda sucks.

The lower bar on top of the shocks is worth the money you can get for it at the recycling center. It does even less than the front strut bar, and just adds weight and cuts down on cargo space.

To Rockland,

You are implying that the bar made the car is "stiffer" and "ride better" all at the same time? Not that I think you are in any position to quantify handling gains.. but thanks for your opinion. I think if I gave you a battery tie down brace you would say the car handled better.

Gideon

10-29-2008, 11:03 PM

That upper bar works a bit, in hatchbacks, but you can't have anyone in the back seat so that kinda sucks.

So just get this an a sway bar and you'll be set? (Thinking about getting one myself along with a sway bar. :P)

ROCKLAND TOYOTA

10-29-2008, 11:49 PM

That upper bar works a bit, in hatchbacks, but you can't have anyone in the back seat so that kinda sucks.

The lower bar on top of the shocks is worth the money you can get for it at the recycling center. It does even less than the front strut bar, and just adds weight and cuts down on cargo space.

To Rockland,

You are implying that the bar made the car is "stiffer" and "ride better" all at the same time? Not that I think you are in any position to quantify handling gains.. but thanks for your opinion. I think if I gave you a battery tie down brace you would say the car handled better.
this man i guess has no clue to my suspension setup:rolleyes: oh well another brillant answer from the other side.......

ROCKLAND TOYOTA

10-29-2008, 11:56 PM

My interpretation of your 'rough ride' statement.

well my ROUGH RIDE consists of the everyday potholes and uneven road surfaces.. in certain areas where i cannot avoid them i didn't hear some of the familar sounds im use to associated with my current suspension and wheel/tire combo.

PHXDEMON

10-29-2008, 11:57 PM

That upper bar works a bit, in hatchbacks, but you can't have anyone in the back seat so that kinda sucks.

The lower bar on top of the shocks is worth the money you can get for it at the recycling center. It does even less than the front strut bar, and just adds weight and cuts down on cargo space.

To Rockland,

You are implying that the bar made the car is "stiffer" and "ride better" all at the same time? Not that I think you are in any position to quantify handling gains.. but thanks for your opinion. I think if I gave you a battery tie down brace you would say the car handled better.

You mean those billet battery tie down braces don't improve handling :confused:

:laugh::laugh::laugh:

largeorangefont

10-30-2008, 12:00 AM

So just get this an a sway bar and you'll be set? (Thinking about getting one myself along with a sway bar. :P)

I would get a rear sway bar, and the front lower subframe brace. Braces in that area are actually effective. If you don't have a sway bar, definately get one before spending ANY money on braces.

largeorangefont

10-30-2008, 12:02 AM

this man i guess has no clue to my suspension setup:rolleyes: oh well another brillant answer from the other side.......

Then enlighten us all as to how the bar made your car stiffer (which you have no way of quantifing) and ride better all at the same time.

I don't need to know your suspension setup to ask you a question about you own comments in post #1.

largeorangefont

10-30-2008, 12:03 AM

You mean those billet battery tie down braces don't improve handling :confused:

:laugh::laugh::laugh:

They do. Ask Rockland :thumbup:

Kaotic Lazagna

10-30-2008, 01:29 AM

Too bad us sedan owners don't have anything like that, at least I'm not aware of anything for the rear other than a bottom sway bar.

reggaetonfreak

10-30-2008, 02:23 AM

mmmm, let me think, so unless I a dont plan on doing anything in the back of my car for the rest of its life, (if you know what i mean), mmm, yeah, thats a negative, it would have a purpose if you do auto x, m just saying!

KCALB SIRAY

10-30-2008, 11:06 AM

Then enlighten us all as to how the bar made your car stiffer (which you have no way of quantifing) and ride better all at the same time.

I don't need to know your suspension setup to ask you a question about you own comments in post #1.

He simply made an observation, that's all. Even if his words were not the correct ones to describe the feeling, which I'm not saying they are wrong, he still noticed a difference in the way the car reacts. Do you need Loren to back you up on this to justify and say I'm wrong?

ROCKLAND TOYOTA

10-30-2008, 11:19 AM

^^ its whatever, we'll let this ass paper think how he wants. it makes for good reading.....

Astroman

10-30-2008, 11:53 AM

Yay, I knew they'd chime in! Where's Loren? :laugh:

I know the "effect" that Rockland is trying to explain. After installing the TRD rear sway bar the ride was was more comfortable while the handling was better as well. Since I have not tried this brace I don't feel that I am qualified to judge it's effectiveness. Same goes to everyone else. It's like saying you know everything about a movie when you've only seen the trailer.

largeorangefont

10-30-2008, 12:45 PM

He simply made an observation, that's all. Even if his words were not the correct ones to describe the feeling, which I'm not saying they are wrong, he still noticed a difference in the way the car reacts. Do you need Loren to back you up on this to justify and say I'm wrong?

The reason the car felt better was because his wallet was lighter.

cleong

10-30-2008, 01:55 PM

Rockland noticed a difference and he claimed that the car was smoother. If you have basic knowledge of suspension you'll find that it is counterintuitive that stiffening the chassis brings a smoother ride, because road vibration and shock are more clearly transmitted through a rigid chassis.

Unless, of course, that the chassis is so flexy that it flexes more than the suspension does. Bracing this flexy chassis would force the suspension to work.

Given our experience with the Yaris LB this would hardly be the case - to me, the monocoque is stiff enough as it is (but this is subjective). So it is unlikely that you actually gain a smoother ride with the body bracing.

I would love to hear any theory on how a stiffer chassis creates a smoother ride.

CASTREX

10-30-2008, 02:33 PM

I like the bar.

Seems easy to install and remove and cheap enough to have it as an accesory for autox or track days only. When you are not carrying the rear seats anyways. :w00t:

largeorangefont

10-30-2008, 02:39 PM

ROCKLAND TOYOTA

10-30-2008, 04:14 PM

so for my lack of describing better the change i experienced we have this.:laugh: keep it going it makes for interesting read......

Thirty-Nine

10-30-2008, 04:48 PM

Hey, if you like it that's all that matters.

It's a shame there's no way to really verify whether or not they do stiffen the chassis other than the ol' butt dyno ... er ... "butt skidpad." (Ewww?)

KCALB SIRAY

10-30-2008, 04:49 PM

Mythbusters! Do it, do it now! lol

rob323

10-30-2008, 10:33 PM

:wink: Bolt on braces, always guaranteed to start an argument.

(I prefer welded in ones myself.)

contraband831

10-30-2008, 11:44 PM

with all the braces some of you guys are using on your daily drivers. the car is begining to look like a jail cell.

well anyways, looks cool, i have passengers all the time, so this is out for me.

largeorangefont

10-31-2008, 12:06 AM

:wink: Bolt on braces, always guaranteed to start an argument.

(I prefer welded in ones myself.)

Yes, for all the money wasted on these stupid things, you could have a cage that actually does something significant.

Astroman

10-31-2008, 12:10 AM

Or, you could stop wasting your time saying they don't work.

largeorangefont

10-31-2008, 12:19 AM

Or, you could stop wasting your time saying they don't work.

A few work, most of them don't. I've always said that.

It's ok.. I'd defend my empty wallet too if I spent a bunch of money on useless bracing that inhibited my passenger space and cargo carrying ability.

I'd be upset that I could have spent half as much and got a roll cage that actually increases structural rigidity, and could still allow me to carry passengers and stuff.

rob323

10-31-2008, 12:25 AM

Still, passengers and cages don't really mix together, at least they don't in my car.

largeorangefont

10-31-2008, 12:28 AM

Still, passengers and cages don't really mix together, at least they don't in my car.

Yes, I would tend to agree, but a padded 4 point without a harness mount would actually allow someone to sit back there if you had to.

I used to drive this every day, so I might be a little more adventureous than most.

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Thej3sta2

10-31-2008, 01:31 AM

looks good. Have to say thow its kindof anoying trying look threw the rear view mirror.
cant imagine trying to see with a pole in my way.

ROCKLAND TOYOTA

10-31-2008, 10:07 AM

A few work, most of them don't. I've always said that.

It's ok.. I'd defend my empty wallet too if I spent a bunch of money on useless bracing that inhibited my passenger space and cargo carrying ability.

I'd be upset that I could have spent half as much and got a roll cage that actually increases structural rigidity, and could still allow me to carry passengers and stuff.

55 bucks is such a HUGE waste of money.......

thebarber

10-31-2008, 12:29 PM

ouch, sux that you lose your seatbelts...

do much racing rockland?

ROCKLAND TOYOTA

10-31-2008, 01:01 PM

ouch, sux that you lose your seatbelts...

do much racing rockland?
NO, but i also don't entertain passengers either......

Tamago

10-31-2008, 05:02 PM

largeorangefont

10-31-2008, 05:24 PM

what does it do besides ruin rear seat usability? it doesn't brace anything if it pivots on both ends lol

i fixed it for you sweeetie

http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e239/fatherdutami/IMG_0898.jpg

Exactly, now you are on the right track, except mounting anything to the top of the rear shock mount is like mounting it to jello.

Tamago

10-31-2008, 05:27 PM

Exactly, now you are on the right track, except mounting anything to the top of the rear shock mount is like mounting it to jello.

i know, but it's better than the pateria he had before ;)

largeorangefont

10-31-2008, 06:48 PM

i know, but it's better than the pateria he had before ;)

Amen.

contraband831

10-31-2008, 06:56 PM

How about this... :iono: :headbang:
10543
A little on the excessive side, but it will work and of course no rear seats

Tamago

10-31-2008, 09:12 PM

How about this... :iono: :headbang:
10543
A little on the excessive side, but it will work and of course no rear seats

you're probably being LOL'd at across the world, this thread is renowned already :biggrin:

dallas

11-01-2008, 01:27 AM

largeorangefont

11-01-2008, 11:31 AM

I once parked on a side slope and had to open the hatch, when I went to close it it would not line up and closed with friction. I could not believe the flex in the frame to cause this, the two bars will help lots to stiffen the chassis.

Interesting, I've hade my car jacked up from the rear in one corner, and tried opening the doors and hatch to see if there was any flex and never had a problem. Everything worked perfect. I was impressed actually.

Tamago

11-01-2008, 07:22 PM

I once parked on a side slope and had to open the hatch, when I went to close it it would not line up and closed with friction. I could not believe the flex in the frame to cause this, the two bars will help lots to stiffen the chassis.

there's no way they stiffen the chassis, because both bars pivot with the body..

DeadEnd

11-01-2008, 07:27 PM

How long did it take to install?

Benggolf2

11-01-2008, 10:21 PM

Well, with the rear strut bar you literally rendered the trunk useless.
Now with the upper brace, you can't carry any passengers at the rear.
Maybe, its time to just remove the rear seats and save some weight.

Perhaps you are turning your ride into a full-time track car? :wink:

ddongbap

11-02-2008, 12:00 AM

That upper bar works a bit, in hatchbacks, but you can't have anyone in the back seat so that kinda sucks.

The lower bar on top of the shocks is worth the money you can get for it at the recycling center. It does even less than the front strut bar, and just adds weight and cuts down on cargo space.

To Rockland,

You are implying that the bar made the car is "stiffer" and "ride better" all at the same time? Not that I think you are in any position to quantify handling gains.. but thanks for your opinion. I think if I gave you a battery tie down brace you would say the car handled better.

That last part was fking hilarious.

Actually this entire post was a good read. Rockland was actually right about something. Sucks it had to be at his expense tho.

Chris07LB

11-02-2008, 01:19 AM

At $55 bucks, ALL the cool kids will have 'em.

largeorangefont

11-02-2008, 01:28 AM

That last part was fking hilarious.

Actually this entire post was a good read. Rockland was actually right about something. Sucks it had to be at his expense tho.

:thumbup:

redyaris

01-08-2009, 11:40 AM

Count me in on this massive wasteful expense too. I might not eat tonight due to it and im sad about that.:cry:

Tamago

01-08-2009, 12:27 PM

nice thread bump, making me laugh before i go on vacation! thanks!!!!!

redyaris

01-08-2009, 02:42 PM

nice thread bump, making me laugh before i go on vacation! thanks!!!!!

We aim to please. Enjoy your vacation in Homestead. :bellyroll:

cali yaris

01-08-2009, 03:13 PM

I might not eat tonight due to it and im sad about that.

LOL, looks good. Hunger is temporary, mods are permanent.

redyaris

01-08-2009, 03:49 PM

LOL, looks good. Hunger is temporary, mods are permanent.

Wait til they get a load of my C pillar Megan Racing brace just like Rockland's. That will really have em rolling in the aisles Garm.:burnrubber:

On another note, I can't believe i've done the same mods as Rockland Toyota. This is a strange world indeed.

ZING

01-08-2009, 04:57 PM

redyaris, love the interior of your car. I want one of those steeringwheel covers.

ROCKLAND TOYOTA

01-12-2009, 12:16 PM

Wait til they get a load of my C pillar Megan Racing brace just like Rockland's. That will really have em rolling in the aisles Garm.:burnrubber:

On another note, I can't believe i've done the same mods as Rockland Toyota. This is a strange world indeed. so now that you wasted the money what do you think? :laugh:

Russelt3hPirate

01-15-2009, 04:55 PM

so now that you wasted the money what do you think? :laugh:

this thread is golden.

I wonder what that brace would do with some Centerline wheels?

I'm thinking about having megan make me a bar like that for the front. Any interest? :bellyroll:

Tamago

01-15-2009, 04:57 PM

this thread is golden.

I wonder what that brace would do with some Centerline wheels?

I'm thinking about having megan make me a bar like that for the front. Any interest? :bellyroll:

have it go between the control arms on the steering knuckle bolt directly to the subframe.. that'll keep the wheels from pivoting left to right.. it'll "corner" like it's on rails!!!!!!!

Russelt3hPirate

01-15-2009, 04:59 PM

have it go between the control arms on the steering knuckle bolt directly to the subframe.. that'll keep the wheels from pivoting left to right.. it'll "corner" like it's on rails!!!!!!!

we're trying to stiffen the chassis not the suspension. DUH.

IBTL

Tamago

01-15-2009, 05:32 PM

we're trying to stiffen the chassis not the suspension. DUH.

IBTL

DUH look at the name of the thread "my newest suspension mod"

Russelt3hPirate

01-15-2009, 05:37 PM

oh wait.

so the seat belt area in the rear is part of the suspension?

got it. sweet. thanks for the clearing that up. :D

Tamago

01-15-2009, 05:42 PM

oh wait.

so the seat belt area in the rear is part of the suspension?

got it. sweet. thanks for the clearing that up. :D

john: OMG the SUSPENSE IS KILLING ME!!!!!!!!!

rockland: No, that's just the seatbelt too tight

ROCKLAND TOYOTA

01-15-2009, 08:18 PM

DUH look at the name of the thread "my newest suspension mod"

:laugh: OHHHHH i get since i worded the topic wrong like i said back on what page 1 your being a dick. THATS COOL, here's to hoping we get a chance to meet each other in 2009.....

Tamago

01-15-2009, 08:20 PM

:laugh: OHHHHH i get since i worded the topic wrong like i said back on what page 1 your being a dick. THATS COOL, here's to hoping we get a chance to meet each other in 2009.....

absolutely. i may be up in Providence RI later in the year.. sans car.. but i'll still shake your hand and tell you you're a ricer :laugh:

Russelt3hPirate

01-16-2009, 10:15 AM

absolutely. i may be up in Providence RI later in the year.. sans car.. but i'll still shake your hand and tell you you're a ricer :laugh:

screen shot or it didn't happen. :lol:

Rockland, any new suspension mods?

ChinoCharles

01-16-2009, 10:28 AM

You Florida boys are terrible. :laugh:

cali yaris

01-16-2009, 10:30 AM

= the thread that would not die

PETERPOOP

01-16-2009, 11:50 AM

how can tamago call rockland a ricer when tamago has a boosted xa? i'm confused.

ChinoCharles

01-16-2009, 11:52 AM

... with a carbon fiber panda hood.

Russelt3hPirate

01-16-2009, 12:07 PM

how can tamago call rockland a ricer when tamago has a boosted xa? i'm confused.

depends on your definition of ricer. I consider "pointless mods" as the entry to Ricerdome, saying said pointless mods actually do something gets you a Members Only jacket to Ricerdome.

oh yeah,

fabricating a turbo kit for an xA > pointless "bracing" :bellyroll:

ChinoCharles

01-16-2009, 12:09 PM

I just hate the term "ricer." Its like the word "poser." Belongs on a 7th grade playground. Lets be adults her- aw, who am I kidding.

Tamago

01-16-2009, 12:11 PM

how can tamago call rockland a ricer when tamago has a boosted xa? i'm confused.

how does forced induction have anything to do with rice?

and the hood isn't carbon fiber ;)

Tamago

01-16-2009, 12:12 PM

I just hate the term "ricer." Its like the word "poser." Belongs on a 7th grade playground. Lets be adults her- aw, who am I kidding.

haha who ARE you kidding?

ChinoCharles

01-16-2009, 12:13 PM

Myself. :laugh:

It isn't carbon fiber? Dude, that is costing you 23 HP.

thebarber

01-16-2009, 12:18 PM

Myself. :laugh:

It isn't carbon fiber? Dude, that is costing you 23 HP.

panda adds 50, so he's good

(btw, i love your car tamago)

Russelt3hPirate

01-16-2009, 12:20 PM

Myself. :laugh:

It isn't carbon fiber? Dude, that is costing you 23 HP.

the VF39 makes up for it. ;)

ChinoCharles

01-16-2009, 12:54 PM

It is pretty awesome, I must admit!

Russelt3hPirate

01-16-2009, 01:04 PM

shits fast too. ahaha. especially compared to our Yaris.

Tamago

01-16-2009, 01:04 PM

Myself. :laugh:

It isn't carbon fiber? Dude, that is costing you 23 HP.

because the hood is so small anyway (and i know you YW guys know about small hoods) a CF hood is almost no weight savings whatsoever..

that and i'd feel bad hacking up a CF hood for the NACA duct

ChinoCharles

01-16-2009, 01:05 PM

Oh, we know about small hoods. Cracks me up that a CF hood is $500. I know why, but I'm just saying...

Tamago, did you say you had an extra block sitting around?

Tamago

01-16-2009, 03:13 PM

Oh, we know about small hoods. Cracks me up that a CF hood is $500. I know why, but I'm just saying...

Tamago, did you say you had an extra block sitting around?

no i believe that was rockland.. unless you can make this one work.. :biggrin:

http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e239/fatherdutami/broken%20egg/broken23.jpg
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Russelt3hPirate

01-16-2009, 03:14 PM

is that your new crankcase vent mod?

Tamago

01-16-2009, 03:15 PM

is that your new crankcase vent mod?

weight savings mod

largeorangefont

01-16-2009, 04:32 PM

looks more like a windage mod to me..

PETERPOOP

01-16-2009, 09:43 PM

how does forced induction have anything to do with rice?

and the hood isn't carbon fiber ;)

your car is japanese. rice. and the panda doesn't help AT ALL.

Gideon

01-16-2009, 10:24 PM

your car is japanese. rice. and the panda doesn't help AT ALL.

Mmm... generally rice refers to someone with all show and no go. I'm pretty sure his xA has more go than most of our Yarii.

Also I have no idea what the panda has to do with anything.

PETERPOOP

01-16-2009, 11:54 PM

i did not say that it didn't have go. but why is it called rice? because people wanted to make cars like honda faster. people who didn't know how would just add a fart can and people would make fun of them. i'm sure they call it "rice" because of the car's origin being from japan. would they have come up with that term if people were originally trying to make a cheap ford or chevy car fast?

I guess it all depends on what you call rice. But I think it's pretty dumb that a guy with a scion saying a guy with a toyota is a ricer. Hmm...

and ill say it again, how can anyone with a panda on their hood call someone a ricer? come on seriously...

cali yaris

01-17-2009, 12:32 AM

this thread > the Energizer Bunny

Gideon

01-17-2009, 12:53 AM

I guess it all depends on what you call rice. But I think it's pretty dumb that a guy with a scion saying a guy with a toyota is a ricer. Hmm...

and ill say it again, how can anyone with a panda on their hood call someone a ricer? come on seriously...

You think it's pretty dumb that someone who actually tracks their car and has done modifications that increases the overall perfomance...nevermind. Not going to add fuel to the fire. Different strokes for different folks! :biggrin:

Instead:

And I'LL say it again, what does having a panda on their hood have to do with anything?

Sounds like SOMEONE isn't comfortable with their masculinity! LOL. :laugh:

PETERPOOP

01-17-2009, 02:14 AM

I wouldn't expect someone to understand who has a dog as their avatar. ruff ruff..

Gideon

01-17-2009, 02:41 AM

I wouldn't expect someone to understand who has a dog as their avatar. ruff ruff..

http://ramblingrhodes.mu.nu/archives/normal_Internet-SeriousBusiness.jpg

contraband831

01-17-2009, 11:31 AM

^^^ NICE! that guy looks serious

Treyz

01-17-2009, 11:50 AM

Yeah .. this thread just went waaayyyy off topic.

Someone just close it, lol!

Tamago

01-17-2009, 12:24 PM

nah keep it open, serious suspension mods in this thread! people need to be aware how they're gonna make their back seats useless!!

Jerkratt

01-17-2009, 04:18 PM

is that the only color that bar come in? im thinking about getting one of those after i get my other surprise hopfully to have for the streetwars 5 show....

Tamago

01-19-2009, 09:21 PM

is that the only color that bar come in? im thinking about getting one of those after i get my other surprise hopfully to have for the streetwars 5 show....

hopefully it comes in "invisible" too

mikenacarato

01-19-2009, 09:26 PM

geez..i swear..you and rockland...like 12 yr old kids. its too bad all the time you 2 have wasted arguing doesnt mean crap.

ibtl

Tamago

01-19-2009, 09:27 PM

geez..i swear..you and rockland...like 12 yr old kids. its too bad all the time you 2 have wasted arguing doesnt mean crap.

ibtl

for the record. he really did start it all.. he should know better, being 2 years older than me, and being a freakin parts manager at toyota

mikenacarato

01-19-2009, 09:34 PM

be the bigger MAN and just dont retaliate. just because hes a toyota parts manager doesnt mean he knows jack shit. ive met people that are parts managers at places like cummins and detroit and even some people i work with here at volvo and they think they are hot shit just because they are the managers and work at those places..that doesnt mean they know what they sell. also, the parts department doesnt give you actual mechanic credit..... im a volvo parts manager but does that mean i know everything about volvos? it most certainly does not.

Tamago

01-19-2009, 09:35 PM

.that doesnt mean they know what they sell.

CLEARLY

mikenacarato

01-19-2009, 09:39 PM

EASY.....be the bigger man.

Tamago

01-19-2009, 09:42 PM

EASY.....be the bigger man.

:laugh: best thing this forum could do is just ban him.. :laugh:

Black Yaris

01-19-2009, 09:46 PM

this shit is funnier than me and Steve bickering back in the day

ddongbap

01-19-2009, 10:47 PM

for the record. he really did start it all.. he should know better, being 2 years older than me, and being a freakin parts manager at toyota

Kinda makes you not wanna shop at Rockland Toyota, huh?

Tamago

01-19-2009, 10:48 PM

Kinda makes you not wanna shop at Rockland Toyota, huh?

thank god i live nowhere near that failmobile

PETERPOOP

01-20-2009, 02:03 PM

Let it go tamago. You and the panda will be alright.

ZING

01-20-2009, 02:18 PM

What's all this talk about panda on hood?

kou

01-20-2009, 02:26 PM

would that bar be to far back for a harness bar.

Tamago

01-20-2009, 03:04 PM

would that bar be to far back for a harness bar.

yes and ridiculously too flimsy as well

Russelt3hPirate

01-21-2009, 10:20 AM

yes and ridiculously too flimsy as well

at least in regards to safety. :lol:

i'm sure someone has tried it.

kou

01-21-2009, 01:26 PM

^^^^thanks,just thinking you could weld some more bars on with other mounting points on the floor.

Russelt3hPirate

01-21-2009, 01:35 PM

^^^^thanks,just thinking you could weld some more bars on with other mounting points on the floor.

if you're going that far it'd be smarter to fabricate an actual harness bar. similar to what you see from Sparco for the Impreza.

Tamago has something very similar in his car that he fabricated, wonder if he'll chime in.