gonna get some coilovers [Archive] - Toyota Yaris Forums

largeorangefont

11-02-2008, 01:30 AM

I'm gonna get some tein coilovers, I really want the car to be lower at least 2". Are they worth the 1k? can we get a discount on them through somone on yarisworld?

You gonna track the car? If not, they are probably not worth it.

I'd get BC inverteds anyway. Many more features and easily rebuildable.

RacerFreakXXX

11-02-2008, 08:36 PM

I'm not gonna rack the car as far as I know but I want the car lower but I've heard they give a nice smooth ride quality

dvlnblkdrs

11-02-2008, 09:01 PM

they are def worth it in comparison to springs imo...you can change ur height if u need to for wheels or such. you can get discounts through yw. i purchased my teins through WESELLCARPARTS and i def recommend him :thumbsup:

FunctionSpec

11-02-2008, 09:23 PM

Go with a spring and shock combo like Tein springs and Tokico shocks if you want to go down to about 2". Its half the price of coilovers and should give you the looks and ride you are looking for.

But if you want more performance and adjustability, go with coilovers.

largeorangefont

11-02-2008, 10:27 PM

Go with a spring and shock combo like Tein springs and Tokiko shocks if you want to go down to about 2". Its half the price of coilovers and should give you the looks and ride you are looking for.

But if you want more performance and adjustability, go with coilovers.

I agree.

You can get springs, struts/shocks, and a rear sway bar (which will really help handling) for about $600. The ride will be very good, and you will get the ride height you are looking for.

mojoyaris

11-03-2008, 12:19 AM

Here's a bit from my experience. If you plan to get the Tein basics, they're good for the street, but the spring and dapening rate are too soft for the track. They basically give you a bit of stiffness, but not much more.

If you plan to go Megan or BC (same manufacture), I'd say they are the better choice. Megan being a step up and the BC another notch up.

5 KG springs in front and 6 KG rear are plenty good for the street and the track. They are also adjustable for the stiffness. If you are in a cold and wet area, you will want to maintain your coilovers and brush the grooves to keep them clean.

Otherwise for maintenance issues, just use a set of lowering springs, good shocks and you don't have to worry about drivability issues. Unless you want to slam the car and make it super low...... then you don't need the coilovers.

RacerFreakXXX

11-03-2008, 11:48 PM

Well i"m not looking to be stiffer just lower but i'm worried about being lower int he winter... anyone with springs rinning in the winter and daily driving... i just like the smooth ride quality.

AznGouki

11-05-2008, 04:10 AM

if you don't want any stiffness added, don't change your suspension, period. There is always a price you pay with modifications and the quality will depend on the price paid. The suggestions above are great choices, especially the tokiko/tein combo. Tein springs offer the aggressive look and tokiko struts keep you from blowing your factory struts from the reduced ride height.

RacerFreakXXX

11-09-2008, 10:56 PM

I'm buying the coilovers for myself for x-mas... now i can't decide between tein basic, cusco compact-s, and megan racing. Any opinions, not looking to be racing the car but want mild performance, 2" drop at least, and a smooth ride?

PETERPOOP

11-09-2008, 11:29 PM

i have the cuscos and know of one other person on this board with them. i like them alot. ride is smooth. ofcourse if you hit bumps and what not you will feel them more so. but that's a given being dropped 2". i like the fact that not alot of people have them

Kaotic Lazagna

11-10-2008, 12:37 AM

I got my Tein S.Tech and TRD strut/shocks combo with a Tanabe strut bar for only ~$560. Provides about 2" give or take 0.1" of a drop, and it's a pretty smooth ride (for me at least, family and friends say it's too stiff; I want it stiffer).

Thirty-Nine

11-10-2008, 01:06 PM

I've got the Megan coilovers. The ride is pretty stiff. I would not recommend them if a soft ride is a priority. However, they do handle very well and are priced right.

RacerFreakXXX

11-10-2008, 10:18 PM

PETERPOOP

11-10-2008, 10:23 PM

well i just put my cuscos on acouple of weeks ago. no problems at all. i believe the cuscos run more than teins?

RacerFreakXXX

11-10-2008, 10:31 PM

on bulletproof automotive cusco-s are $1,100 and tein basic are $940 but i've seen the tein for $1,100 too so i'm assuming it's about the same and $100 isn't going to make or brake my decision

Thirty-Nine

11-11-2008, 01:48 PM

ok so i guess the megan ones are out i just was concerned about adjustability between the tein and cusco... i know both are great brands and bout the same on price. You ever have any problems with the cusco or tein?

Keep in mind the Teins and Cuscos are only height adjustable, not dampening adjustable.

The Teins will be less expensive. I have not heard any problems with them, either.

RacerFreakXXX

11-12-2008, 12:09 AM

oh i know that i just ment for height... does anyone know if one drops lower than the other? and can you get a racing coilover and not have it feel stiff as hell?

largeorangefont

11-12-2008, 11:05 AM

oh i know that i just ment for height... does anyone know if one drops lower than the other? and can you get a racing coilover and not have it feel stiff as hell?

No.

The cheap Tein kit is the closest to what you are looking for. Any other coilover will be very stiff.

Again, save yourself some money and get dampers, springs and a sway bar if you are worried about the ride.

Thirty-Nine

11-12-2008, 11:56 AM

No.

Again, save yourself some money and get dampers, springs and a sway bar if you are worried about the ride.

Good point. It's nearly impossibly to be "slammed" and have a good ride.

PETERPOOP

11-12-2008, 06:18 PM

It's nearly impossibly to be "slammed" and have a good ride.

exactly.

RacerFreakXXX

11-12-2008, 07:24 PM

largeorangefont

11-12-2008, 09:37 PM

what I'm trying to get at is there a difference in feeling from the tein or cusco being lowered compared to a fully adjustable coilover like the bc with a low dampening setting? I know the ride quality will be worse but I'm trying to avoid the car bouncing in the air if I hit a pothole.

No. Cuscos, BCs, Megans, K sports Silk etc. are all still very stiff (relative to stock dampening) at the softest setting.

If you have to ask how stiff they are.. they will probably be too stiff for you.

The Tien basics that are only height adjustable are softer, and ride like performance struts.

n2oinferno

11-12-2008, 10:24 PM

I think you should probably ride in a car with coils at some point before you buy them. They don't bother a lot of people, but the difference in stiffness is night and day versus the stock setup. This has been consistent with every vehicle I've ever ridden in after coilovers were installed.

Coils make sense if you're going to be adjusting the car a lot, raising up, lowering back down, tracking it, getting it corner balanced and properly set up.. Otherwise I'd just do springs. It's a lot easier and then you don't have to mess with it all the time. If you just want to slam the car, do an air suspension. More money, but rides much, much smoother. And you can just put the whole car on the ground.

PETERPOOP

11-12-2008, 11:43 PM

you won't bounce in the air if you hit a pothole, however it will feel like you were driving a car with no suspension if you did. i've just learned to drive like a cat and avoid every bump/dip/object on the road. if you are willing to do this, you'll be fine. ;)

RacerFreakXXX

11-13-2008, 12:03 AM

well when i mean stiff i mean like a rock... the silck roads I had put on my 240, yes i had them adjusted to a stiff setting, were insanely stiff like rocks. My old z was stiff but that's the stiffest i want to get. I am gonna be tracking it and stuff to that nature so I am deffinatley gonna want adjustability, plus i've ridden in a car with springs and to me it feels horrible compared to a car with coilovers, I've just never been in a car with coilover that somone has had them soft. Everyone I know has them on a really stiff setting and i was just wondering if any of the racing ones felt more like a stock sports car than a race car.

PETERPOOP

11-13-2008, 12:17 AM

i think the majority of the people on this site with coilovers has the car dropped 2" or more. I don't think people will be able to tell you what you want to hear. dude just buy the coilovers already. i don't know what else we can tell you

RacerFreakXXX

11-13-2008, 12:35 AM

yea i think i've decided what i want... i should have them sometime after x-mas, lol

PETERPOOP

11-13-2008, 01:34 AM

so what are you getting?!

WeSellCarParts

11-14-2008, 08:08 AM

Let me know what you need - I will help you out with a YW discount :)

CASTREX

11-14-2008, 10:42 AM

Teins FTW!

I'm dropped like 2", the streets here suck big time and the ride still is really good.

I tend to drive quite aggressively, I used to have lowering springs (Tanabe DF) those just didn't make it for me.
I daily drive my car, I don't mind a stiff ride but given the condition of the streets here a very stiff ride will translate into a loose and rattling car in a couple of months. So I went for the Tein kit. I love it. Really smooth is a different feel to upgrade from the Tanabe springs to the Tein Basic.

I agree with other reviewers, it will not be the optimal option if you are planning to track your car more than a couple pf times a year. By the same money you can buy a coilover that allows much more adjustability.

But by reading what you are looking for I say you will be really happy with the Teins.

Don't know anything about the Cuscos so I can't comment. Not sure how easy will be to find a replacement shock or to have a cusco unit re-worked. At least for the Tein I know you have a good support in case you blow a shock or something.

RacerFreakXXX

11-14-2008, 11:28 PM

well that's good to know... really i am deciding between the tein and the bc because they are both the same price i just don't knwo if i want better ide quality or better adjustability. It is my daily driver and it's basically hills and turns and cracks all over the roads. However it wouldbe nice to be able to adjust the camber and dampening. I'm really leaning torwards the bc because i do drive hard around the turns. Right now i slide through alot and i think it's mainly cuz of my height.

RacerFreakXXX

11-21-2008, 01:01 AM

any opinions on what's the best coilover under 1k? teins, BC, k-sport, megan, D2 is all I know of for under 1k ... gave up on the whole nice soft ride idea and just want something that performs well. I'm leaning torwards the BC cuz they are gold and I kinda wanna do gold do gold and white for the car. You know keep it all matching, lol.

FunctionSpec

11-21-2008, 01:11 AM

I got a set of Used BC Racing coilovers for sale. Non-inverted. PM me if interested.

RacerFreakXXX

11-21-2008, 12:32 PM

sorry.. i'm notlooking to buyright now just trying to see what's the best. Any one know the price on silkroads?

Malaya1221

11-21-2008, 05:48 PM

cali yaris carries those silkroad!

i wonder what the difference between those SK rm/a8 and dfv ohlins?

mojoyaris

11-22-2008, 12:00 AM

I hear Megan and BC are the same manufacture but different performance characteristics

RacerFreakXXX

11-22-2008, 01:55 AM

I've been looking around and maybe it's me but no coilovers seem to have adjustable pillowball mounts. The k-sport ones seem to be the only ones. Maybe it's me but it seems like on the racing coilovers all you can adjust is the dampening and height. Maybe I'm expecting too much out of 1k coilovers?

I really just don't want to buy racing coilovers unless I can adjust the front camber. Maybe I'm missing something?