6 spd MT for the 2009 TS ????

[CASTREX]

Got the word from the local dealer that they will be getting a couple of the facelifted 2009 TS's before the end of the year.

Nothing surprising, except for the fact that they said the 2009 model comes with a 6spd tranny standard.

My first thought was that they were wrong as all the articles I've read about the 2009 model just mentioned the facelift (which I'm not a big fan of the look) but stated that the drive train remained unchanged.

Today I found this article about the Johannesburg International Motor Show and it mentions the 6speed
http://www.cartoday.com/content/news/singlepage.asp?in=9378

Can anyone of the of the European members confirm this news?

I'm not sure a 6speed will have much of advantage over the current C56 5speed as this one is already pretty short. But still it will be interesting to look into it.:biggrin:

[cali yaris]

it sure would! since i'm considering a C56 swap, a 6-speed would also be very attractive for my project.

[Zefoxe]

i think it would help the xD a lot. :P 5th gear feels short to me

[PetersRedYaris]

I like the idea of closer gear ratios while still maintaining a tall top gear for interstate cruising. This is a sweet development...

[darthbauer]

Cool but to bad we will probably never get it here in the states.

[CASTREX]

That's right... but multiple drivetrain configurations on the same chasis would eventually open up the possibility of multiple swapping options.

Now we can say with a certain amount of confidence that a 1.8L 2ZR-FE engine swap into a US Yaris should be fairly easy. If you can source the engine/ecu from a wrecked Scion.

For the gains probably does not worth the money right now... but we will have to see how much love the 1.8 end up getting from the aftermarket community.

So far we are doing alright as we already have Richard's Manifold and NST Pulleys on the work table. :biggrin:

If we can actually make 145whp NA only with bolt ons as Richard has claimed... I would call that a start... :thumbup:

[darthbauer]

I'd just like the 6mt on the 1.5 so I can sit at a higher speed but lower RPM on the freeway.

[Stargate YARlantIS]

I'd just like the 6mt on the 1.5 so I can sit at a higher speed but lower RPM on the freeway.

ditto Darth

[cali yaris]

I want it for a different reason :biggrin:

[Stargate YARlantIS]

lol garm

[thatboyjer]

one time i actually thought we had a 6spd and the first time i drove on the highway i kept trying to shift into what apparently was reverse D:

[RagnaCaT]

I want it for a different reason :biggrin:

Well bet you got that deep pocket to import that right?

[1NZYaris1]

Got the word from the local dealer that they will be getting a couple of the facelifted 2009 TS's before the end of the year.

Nothing surprising, except for the fact that they said the 2009 model comes with a 6spd tranny standard.

My first thought was that they were wrong as all the articles I've read about the 2009 model just mentioned the facelift (which I'm not a big fan of the look) but stated that the drive train remained unchanged.

Today I found this article about the Johannesburg International Motor Show and it mentions the 6speed
http://www.cartoday.com/content/news/singlepage.asp?in=9378

Can anyone of the of the European members confirm this news?

I'm not sure a 6speed will have much of advantage over the current C56 5speed as this one is already pretty short. But still it will be interesting to look into it.:biggrin:

You are 100% correct the 2009 has a 6spd manual box ,
taking one for a test drive in the week end if it arrives in time ,
otherwise it will be early next week ,will try and get photo's for all too see.:thumbsup:

[CASTREX]

Please check on the plate on the drivers door.

The transmission used on the car should be stated there.

On the 2007-2008 would say C56

If this one comes with a 6speed it should say c60 or c160 or something like that.

That would share some light on the exact transmission used on the car.

Please also take some pictures of the engine bay.

And post all the specs you can find... I will like to know if there are any other difference.

:thumbup:

[cali yaris]

Well bet you got that deep pocket to import that right?

not any more -- being pretty careful these days.

Most of my money is sitting in my warehouse, in the form of body kits, superchargers, high end coilovers, etc etc :rolleyes:

[Jem_hadar]

one time i actually thought we had a 6spd and the first time i drove on the highway i kept trying to shift into what apparently was reverse D:

lol. imagine if you physically pulled that off already going the speed you were in 5th!

i would have been a HELL of a shudder and death as your car had its innard ripped out! :eek::wink:

[CASTREX]

Well,

It's confirmed. The 2009 Yaris TS comes equipped with a 6 speed man. Transmission.

The new transmission code is C67. Looks like this is a brand new transmission
just added to the Toyota C series.

The local dealer already brought a few 2009 cars.

[invol]

Any ideas on what the gear ratios on the new C67 would be? I'm making a gearing spreadsheet for trans swap purposes, and have been using the gear ratios from the Gen III MR2 C66 trans as reference:
1st: 3.166
2nd: 1.904
3rd: 1.310
4th: 0.969
5th: 0.815
6th: 0.725
Final: 3.722

As mentioned earlier in the thread, the C60 has decent gearing too:
1st: 3.166
2nd: 2.050
3rd: 1.481
4th: 1.166
5th: 0.916
6th: 0.725
Final: ?

Perhaps the C67 will fall somewhere within this range? Let me know so I can complete the spreadsheet and share it with everybody. :smile:

[CASTREX]

I've been looking for the ratios also... but there is NO info on the web regarding this tranny.

The owners manual of the 2009 cars doesn't have this info either.


I guess we have to wait a little to find this information.

Just try a google search for Toyota C67 MT and you'll see what I mean.... No info at all:iono:

[invol]

I know what you mean. I tried Googling it before I asked the question. There ain't a whole lot out there. So, I decided to make my own in hopes of this being the right one.

Mythical C67:
1st: 3.545 (original Yaris 1st)
2nd: 2.050 (2nd-6th from C60)
3rd: 1.481
4th: 1.166
5th: 0.916
6th: 0.725
Final: 3.722 LSD from Starlet GT

This would give both good acceleration and good highway manners (2500RPM in 6th @ 65.43MPH/105.30KPH)

Heck, if I get up enough money (i.e. winning the lottery), this is what I want in my Yaris.

[gomez1184]

hi everyone
fyi, castrex and i (and by that i mean he did it, i just stood around jaja) tested the NST shortshifter (the one the goes in the engine bay) on an '09 TS with the new 6speed transmission and it doesnt fit... so if you were thinking of getting the shortshifter for that car (like i did) you're a bit out of luck :frown:

[PARIS]

Got the word from the local dealer that they will be getting a couple of the facelifted 2009 TS's before the end of the year.

Nothing surprising, except for the fact that they said the 2009 model comes with a 6spd tranny standard.

My first thought was that they were wrong as all the articles I've read about the 2009 model just mentioned the facelift (which I'm not a big fan of the look) but stated that the drive train remained unchanged.

Today I found this article about the Johannesburg International Motor Show and it mentions the 6speed
http://www.cartoday.com/content/news/singlepage.asp?in=9378

Can anyone of the of the European members confirm this news?

I'm not sure a 6speed will have much of advantage over the current C56 5speed as this one is already pretty short. But still it will be interesting to look into it.:biggrin:

If your local dealer is getting a couple of the facelifted 2009 TS's then why isn' t it happening in Greece? Toyota Hellas has only brought the 1.0 and the 1.33 dual vvt-i!!!! They do not even know about the facelifted TS!!It' s so infuriating!! I must do something!!

[ZING]

Same here, we only got the 1.3 and 1.0...bullshit.

[NonStopTuning]

Excellent thread guys! Now someone needs to test one of our In-Cabin NSTSSK09-2 to see if it will work or not!

Someone try it and report back ASAP!!!

[CASTREX]

Just throw one on the package when you send me the Pulleys and I will gladly be yor test mule! :wink:

[ChinoCharles]

I'll try and remember tomorrow to ask if I can get the gearing for the new C56 transmissions @ my interview.

[CASTREX]

I'll try and remember tomorrow to ask if I can get the gearing for the new C56 transmissions @ my interview.

The gearing for the C56 we have. This is a common tranny found on the Yaris Ts, Celica GT, some corollas, MR2 Spider...

C56
3.166
1.904
1.392
1.031
0.815
FD 4.312

What we would like to know is the gearing for the NEW C67.

There are no cars in the US currently with this tranny so it will be hard to find.
This is the new tranny offered for the 2009 Yaris TS and the new Yaris 1.33 Both Euro versions.


Are you going to an interview on a dealer?

Some useful information you could find is about the Toyota Part# 41301-20230

That is the OEM L.S.D from the 04-05 MR-Spider and apparently a direct fit for the 07-08 Yaris TS

You can get the TRD equivalent for around $800 but I'm curious if the factory one can be had for less.:w00t:

[ChinoCharles]

OOPS. C67 it is then... sorry, I had my numbers mixed up. Yes, I'm going to a dealer. I will also inquire about the price on that part no.

[Rafterman]

Facelift Yaris TS with 6 gear >>> 8.1 sec. 0 - 100km/h
old Yaris TS >>> 9.3 sec. 0 - 100km/h

:drool:

[CASTREX]

Facelift Yaris TS with 6 gear >>> 8.1 sec. 0 - 100km/h
old Yaris TS >>> 9.3 sec. 0 - 100km/h

:drool:

Really? were did you get that info from?

Oh men... I wish Toyota were putting this tranny into other models so we could source one out of a wrecked car.



On a side note... the 5 speed TS is much more capable than the 9.3 secs posted by Toyota.

With a few mods I've got mine to mark 7.6 sec on the 0-60mph on my g-tech. That's like 7.6 sec on 0-98 KM/h


What kills the 0-60 times in this car is the short gearing wich means we have to shift one extra gear to make it to 60mp/h


But still really impressed with the numbers from the new 6speed

I want!!!:biggrin:

[andries]

Really? were did you get that info from?

Oh men... I wish Toyota were putting this tranny into other models so we could source one out of a wrecked car.



On a side note... the 5 speed TS is much more capable than the 9.3 secs posted by Toyota.

With a few mods I've got mine to mark 7.6 sec on the 0-60mph on my g-tech. That's like 7.6 sec on 0-98 KM/h


What kills the 0-60 times in this car is the short gearing wich means we have to shift one extra gear to make it to 60mp/h


But still really impressed with the numbers from the new 6speed

I want!!!:biggrin:

This is wat the Toyota documentation here in Netherlands say;

1.0 VVT-i 1.3 VVT-i 1.3 VVT-i 1.8 VVT-i 1.4 D-4D-F 1.4 D-4D-F
M/T M/T M-MT M/T M/T M-MT
PRESTATIES
topspeed (km/h)
155 175 175 194 175 175
Acceleration 0-100 km/h (sec)
15,7 11,7 13,4 9,1 10,7 11,9

Here you can download the full specs (Unfortunately in Dutch)
http://data.toyota.nl/home/data/ToyotaV8/prijslijsten/pdf_prijslijsten/Yaris.pdf

[Rafterman]

www.toyota-europe.com

[jim TS]

www.toyota-europe.com

i think 8.1 is a mistake on the toyota-europe website if you do a carconfig
on the toyota-europe website en then look for technical specification
it says 9.1?:iono:

[yaris 2sz]

i think this is better
http://www.toyota-europe.com/cars/new_cars/yaris/yaris_ts.aspx

see the specs and the gallery... the seats are veeeeery nice

[shtou]

i wonder if the 6 gear box from yaris ts 2009 fits on yaris ts 2008 :confused:

[CASTREX]

i wonder if the 6 gear box from yaris ts 2009 fits on yaris ts 2008 :confused:

Is the same chassis and the same engine. It should fit.

The problem would be where to find one?:eek:

[Clode]

i wonder if the 6 gear box from yaris ts 2009 fits on yaris ts 2008 :confused:

my opinion

but the 6speed trasmission is used only on motorways

[shtou]

Is the same chassis and the same engine. It should fit.

The problem would be where to find one?:eek:
hmm..i have an idea:biggrin:..talk to the service chief..give him some "little present" :biggrin::thumbup:..and he will tell to toyota department that my gear box is damage..and ask for a new 6 one (if it will fits)
:thumbup::biggrin::biggrin:..

[steph]

I`m in love with this new T-SPORT

@shtou give me your email adress. Im from Romania to.

[shtou]

I`m in love with this new T-SPORT

@shtou give me your email adress. Im from Romania to.

hai salut confrate.adresa email mi-i adrian_l_c@yahoo.com.ti-ai luat noul TS?de unde esti?baga niste detalii.te salut si keep in touch

[CASTREX]

hmm..i have an idea:biggrin:..talk to the service chief..give him some "little present" :biggrin::thumbup:..and he will tell to toyota department that my gear box is damage..and ask for a new 6 one (if it will fits)
:thumbup::biggrin::biggrin:..

:bellyroll::bellyroll:

I sure would like to see that!!

[marcus]

still dont get why the ts version take 9 seconds fr 0-100 where our yaris 1.5 take about 8.5 secs. average.. what am i missing here..

[CASTREX]

still dont get why the ts version take 9 seconds fr 0-100 where our yaris 1.5 take about 8.5 secs. average.. what am i missing here..

Those are the Toyota "Official" times.

I believe Toyota says that the 1.5 Yaris will take 10.5 Sec to 60 mph

Their official time for the 5 spd TS is 9.3 sec for 0-100 kp/h or 0-62pmh


Unofficially the best I have pulled on mine, meassured with a G-tech and with the Trac control disabled was 7.58 sec

Not sure about those 8.5sec for a 5spd 1.5L Yaris tough.

[marcus]

nice run...

[shtou]

Those are the Toyota "Official" times.

I believe Toyota says that the 1.5 Yaris will take 10.5 Sec to 60 mph

Their official time for the 5 spd TS is 9.3 sec for 0-100 kp/h or 0-62pmh


Unofficially the best I have pulled on mine, meassured with a G-tech and with the Trac control disabled was 7.58 sec

Not sure about those 8.5sec for a 5spd 1.5L Yaris tough.

veeeeery nice..almost like my father AUDI A3 sportback with 2.0FSI and 200HP (audi gives 7.3-7.1s 0-100km/h)...200HP vs 133HP....is a "little" difference :biggrin::biggrin::biggrin:(the weight diff. is not so much ~1500kg for audi and 1260kg for TS-i tested it and with me it shows 1260KG)

[andries]

Strange, my Yaris TS is 1090kg

[shtou]

Strange, my Yaris TS is 1090kg

believe me it shows me 1260 with me inside..even in the ID's car is written 1190kg.with my 78kg's mine,is ~1260kg.very interesting that your's is ~1100kg..hmm..also my one's has 4 doors

[CASTREX]

Strange, my Yaris TS is 1090kg

The TS is heavier than that.

That's close to what a 1.5L Yaris weights.


The TS has heavier engine, wheels, tires, brakes, and extra equipment. Is got to be around 150lbs heavier than the 1.5 Yaris

[andries]

My car ID says empty car 1090 kg. Ready for driving (fluel and driver) 1190 kg.

My manual says the same.

[Clode]

watching the performances on the European site, i see an improvement in performance on 0/100 kmh ( 8.1 sec ) ande the max speed 194 kmh


I think we have optimized the first gear ( 1 / 2 / 3 ) and the 6 speed is resting


(other European sites are not updated)

[123456789]

watching the performances on the European site, i see an improvement in performance on 0/100 kmh ( 8.1 sec ) ande the max speed 194 kmh


I think we have optimized the first gear ( 1 / 2 / 3 ) and the 6 speed is resting


(other European sites are not updated)

Hi,
do you by any chance have the link with those specs?

BR

[Clode]

Hi,
do you by any chance have the link with those specs?

BR

yes no problem

http://www.toyota-europe.com/cars/new_cars/yaris/fullspecs.aspx

[123456789]

yes no problem

http://www.toyota-europe.com/cars/new_cars/yaris/fullspecs.aspx

Thanx!

I think though it states 9.1 and not 8.1 seconds (typo i guess?)

"Acceleration 0-100 km/h 9.1"

[Clode]

Thanx!

I think though it states 9.1 and not 8.1 seconds (typo i guess?)

"Acceleration 0-100 km/h 9.1"

i don't know

i hope 8.1 :thumbup:

[shtou]

a challenge will be to compare our TS(2007 or 2009 model) with suzuki swift sport 1.6L, 126HP.what do you say?:wink:.i feel that suzi will be a little bit faster then TS

[andries]

a challenge will be to compare our TS(2007 or 2009 model) with suzuki swift sport 1.6L, 126HP.what do you say?:wink:.i feel that suzi will be a little bit faster then TS


No. Until 62 mph the are the same, after that the Yaris 1.8 shows immediately his rear and is gone on a straight road. (much more torque)

In cornering the Suzi is quicker.

[shtou]

No. Until 62 mph the are the same, after that the Yaris 1.8 shows immediately his rear and is gone on a straight road. (much more torque)

In cornering the Suzi is quicker.

did you tested?because 125HP vs 133Hp is very little diference..and the weight is 1050kg vs 1250kg is a little bit more..from swift's sport owners i heared that is a little bit faster than yaris ts for 0-100km/h,the transmission is little bit better than yaris TS,ESP&ASR is possible to turn off from a button..yea, maybe after 100km/h yaris ts will be faster (more torque,a few hp)..but i think 0-400m suzuki would be winner..even the factory details are in advantage for suzuki:0-100km/h 9,3sec for TS and 8,9sec for suzuki..i'm talking about the stock cars.
anyway in my opinion, suzuki would be the winner racing 0-100km/h.
i'll try to test a swift sport :wink:,because it was the alternative of my TS when i bought it.and i did't find a way to test the swift,but i'm very courious :biggrin::smoking::burnrubber:

[andries]

did you tested?because 125HP vs 133Hp is very little diference..and the weight is 1050kg vs 1250kg is a little bit more..from swift's sport owners i heared that is a little bit faster than yaris ts for 0-100km/h,the transmission is little bit better than yaris TS,ESP&ASR is possible to turn off from a button..yea, maybe after 100km/h yaris ts will be faster (more torque,a few hp)..but i think 0-400m suzuki would be winner..even the factory details are in advantage for suzuki:0-100km/h 9,3sec for TS and 8,9sec for suzuki..i'm talking about the stock cars.
anyway in my opinion, suzuki would be the winner racing 0-100km/h.
i'll try to test a swift sport :wink:,because it was the alternative of my TS when i bought it.and i did't find a way to test the swift,but i'm very courious :biggrin::smoking::burnrubber:


In a car magazine was a roadtest between the two and there the measurements say that. see http://www.autoweek.nl/magazineartikel.php?id=11022 (dutch) or http://www.autoplenum.de/Auto/SUZUKI/Swift/Test-SUZUKI-Swift-1.6-2007-id13276.html?tab=testreports (german)

BTW; my yaris is 1090kg (car ID) and TRC en VSC you can turn off

[Jerkratt]

reading...

[Giupo]

What gear ratios have the C54 transmission?
1st:
2nd:
3rd
4th
5th
Final gear:

[CASTREX]

If you mean the C56 gear box.... these are the ratios:

1st 3.166
2nd 1.904
3rd 1.392
4th 1.031
4th 0.815
final: 4.312

[Giupo]

Thanks but I need of C54 Trasmition gear ratios

[CASTREX]

Just to be clear...

The Yaris TS 5speed is equipped with the C56 tranny

The 2009+ Yarus TS 6spd is equipped with the C67 tranny

The US spec Yaris is equipped with the C50 tranny



If you need the C54 ratios here they are... I don't have how ever the final drive ratio for this one:

1st 3.545
2nd 1.904
3rd 1.392
4th 1.031
5th 0.864

[Giupo]

ok thank you very much :-D, the final ratio is 3.5 but are your sure that the gear ratio are these?

[Giupo]

The Yaris 1.3L 2NZFE have C54 transmission

[CASTREX]

Yeah I think those are the right ratios... Do a search... I know I found them somewhere on the web.

[Giupo]

I Found this :

YARIS 1.3 (2NZFE) C54 Transmission (C154 with differential):
A 5-Speed Manual Transmission for FWD cars.

Gear ratios for this transmission.

1st 3.545 55 Km/h at 6500 RPM with Tyre 175/65 14
2nd 1.904 100 Km/h
3rd 1.310 146 Km/h
4th 1.031 185 Km/h
5th 0.864 223 Km/h
Reverse 3.250
Final 3.722

Applications:

Toyota Yaris
:smile::smile::smile:

[VeNoM-ts]

lol:burnrubber: