Ebay Intake?

[Split]

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/2007-2008-Toyota-Yaris-1-5-1-5L-L4-Cold-Air-Intake-KIT_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trkparmsZ39Q3a1Q7c66Q3a2Q7c 65Q3a3Q7c240Q3a1318QQ_trksidZp3286Q2ec0Q2em14QQhas hZitem110307719026QQitemZ110307719026

Right now i have a Simota CAI that's converted to an SRI since the CAI doesn't really fit the Sedan too well. I was hoping to buy a new intake and sell this one to a hatchback owner. Has anyone tried this ebay intake?

http://imgs.inkfrog.com/pix/mqtautoparts/07_yaris_4cyl.jpg

[mikenacarato]

IMO simota quality is waaaay better than this one. i would stick with quality.

[Stargate YARlantIS]

I got my Fujita F5 on ebay....it's more, idk... I'm happy, I saw this one when I was shoppin for mine. IDK why, but I went w/ the Fujita... I also cruised you tube w/ keywords Yaris + Intake... That's how I chose... I liked the sound of the Fujita best...

[mikenacarato]

also a majority of fujita intakes actually make the most power of other intake brands as well. :thumbup:

[eii]

My friend had an intake from ebay on his accord. It broke after a while. I've have the simota one in my sedan with the extra tubing for CAI. Its a tight fit I know, but I havent had any problems with it and I've had it installed for months now. Though a lot believe that CAI doesnt do much for the yaris anyways so setting the Simota as SRI is just fine.

[Split]

i guess i'll try to fit the rest of the CAI in there. Is this ebay intake a Cold Air intake? I'd rather stick to a short-ram intake instead of a cold air since I don't want to deal with a filter getting dirty down low.
I imagine all the intakes sound the same anyway.. i really doubt anyone could hear the difference between a Fujita vs an AEM etc.

[Split]

OT: can i clean my MAF with rubbing alcohol?

[Midon]

I got the intake pictured there and I must say for the price to be as low as it is it has some nice workmanship in it. Now I'm not sure what type of HP gain this gave me, but I know it's better then stock. For quality The welds are nice and it is a solid piece, I don't expect to have any problems. I also can't see paying 200 bucks when something for 50 does the same job. I know most people try to stick with name brands, for the name.But I don't have that kind of cash.

My .02

[mikenacarato]

you will never see the same performance gains out of an ebay intake vs. a good quality intake....never.

[Split]

well considering the brand name intakes don't give more than 1hp gain in reality anyway, i don't think it really matters.

[mikenacarato]

look at fujita. dyno proven at more than 1hp

[Split]

^ by who? fujita? we're not running big displacement or forced induction motors here..

[mikenacarato]

so...does that mean because i have a small car i cant make more than 1 hp with an intake? not to offend...i take more pride in my car than ebay parts...always have...always will. to each his own though.

[ChinoCharles]

I have heard and seen the Fujita intake on a sedan and it looked and sounded wonderful.

Don't buy this Ebay thing. It is garbage.

[Split]

how do you know the ebay intake is garbage? have you ever owned one? Seem to me Midon is the one in this thread that has every used one, and he says its good.

[mikenacarato]

i have owned some and every time i was dissapointed, they start to rust after a while filters are crap, their silicon hoses if applicable suck, they are all the same. you dont see track cars built with ebay parts do you? like i said before to each his own, but an ebay part is not considered a mod to me, more like "hey i was too lazy to save and get the good part" excuse.

[PHXDEMON]

Don't throw crappy parts on your car.

[mikenacarato]

i may be only 21 but ive been into cars a long time and have build several engines with my dad, there is just no substitute for quality...period. had i had that in mind i would not have wasted money on crap parts. ive had to build my own before too, it sucks. i wouldnt think about opening my hood if i had ebay parts in there....

[Split]

its a pipe with a filter.. i have an extra AFE filter i can use to replace the no-name filter on there anyway

[mikenacarato]

whatever, its your car. no sense in arguing.

[Split]

how can i really go wrong with a pipe? i confirmed that its mandrel bent.

[mikenacarato]

your right, its just a pipe. any pipe will do.

[RagnaCaT]

I've heard of cel issues due to MAF position of those ebay things around here. They still say it works but I might be bothered with the red light lit!

[Nexus1155]

your right, its just a pipe. any pipe will do.

corrrect :) maybe some PVC piping everyone....

Honestly... none of these companies build a compliant air intake for the sake of performance... they dont go through countless designs and mathematics... they grab a pipe, do some measurements, make sure it doesnt throw a CEL slap a filter on and you're done... RAI or CAI is not a super substantial modification.... a cheap piece of crap, vs AEM etc. I would grab the cheap piece of crap, coat it so it does not rust and then slap it on if it doesn't cause a CEL....

If you were worried about performance, go design and make youre own from bends and play with the sizing of the pipe vs length and what is optimum for the engine...

[mikenacarato]

thats what companies like aem, fujita, simota, and other good brands do. they test and dyno to prove gains. im not wasting my money again on a cheap pos ebay craptake

[ztrack157]

I have one of them and I like it just fine I did change out the filter to a simota one with a heat shield

[Nexus1155]

ill agree with you on the fujita intake, i know they make excellent products.

http://www.wesellcarparts.com/store/ProdImages/fujita/ca3315m.jpg

but on the simota, whats the need for a charge chamber?

http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f332/xienji/Photo_092208_003.jpg

if you knew how to weld, and can make a maf sensor holder you couldn't slap together one :p

[mikenacarato]

i would imagine a charge chamber being like a stored amount of air, when a sudden drop in pressure arises there is the extra air to make up for it. it keeps the power ban nice and smooth as much as possible. for those who mess around with 2 strokes its kind of like a boost bottle.

[Stargate YARlantIS]

I'll agree w/ Nexus, I love my Fujita! and guess what, I got it on ebay, so does that make it ebay crap? No, I think not...lol

[Nexus1155]

ehhh i would think it would be more turbulent than beneficial, but i am thinking of getting a boost bottle for my sled...i thought they just added the carbon fiber for flashyness...

[mikenacarato]

no im pretty sure its beneficial. i put a boost bottle on my 4 wheeler...its awesome lol

[mikenacarato]

i just figure it like this, i take a lot of pride in my cars, i love them a lot. if im not going to skimp out of other serious parts why bother skimping on an intake..its just an intake. I believe that the intake is actually a pretty serious part of an engine and i have seen the insides of those ebay pipes rust and just imagine that rust going into your engine....eeeew. thats just my opinion...kind of like how i refuse to by rota, exel, og, 5zigen, or any other brand of knockoff wheel. I guess it all does depend on your scene though, here in nashville or at least the people i hang around, if you dont have the good stuff...you suck. its all status i guess.

[largeorangefont]

Go for it and save yourself some cash! Almost every criticism of that intake on this thread is incorrect. It is alumnium and will not rust, the tubing is mandrel bent, and it is not going to cause "turbulence".

That ebay intake is most likely just fine. You are right, A pipe is a pipe, and there is really no need to spend $200 for one. The one you have shown looks to be designed correctly. It has OEM diameter piping, the MAF is placed correctly, and the PCV is vented after the MAF.

You may deal with fitment issues, but I can't see them being very serious. The only part that may be questionable is the filter istelf. Some of the immitation K&N filters are not so good. But even if you got a new filter, it would still be cheap, and the power will be comperable to anything else on the market. Summit now offers immitation K&N filters for $20-$30 bucks.

[mikenacarato]

i guess that about settles it then. go for it :w00t: after all, a pipe is just a pipe right?

[Split]

you guys gotta be kidding.. companies like Fujita and AEM build their intakes the same way as the ebay guys. There was a Fujita employee on mazda3forums.com when i owned my mazda3. He told us how the process works:
They take the stock airbox off, the look for a decent spot for a filter to be (usually as low as possible or away from the motor, etc). They make a pipe that bends and runs down to that location and they put a filter on it. They test for a CEL, and if it doesn't make one, they mass produce it. Dyno results are always fudged. They take a heat soaked car with a dirty filter and dyno it. Then they put their intake it and let it cool off and aim huge fans at it and dyno it again.

[mikenacarato]

he sure as hell wasnt in r&d then...

[Stargate YARlantIS]

he sure as hell wasnt in r&d then...

:laugh:

[mikenacarato]

im sorry...i just believe in quality parts. I wont say another word.

[The Spectacle]

Its unfortunate that some people put so much emphasis on "quality" when it comes to simple parts like intakes. Tube and a filter, nothing more.

Besides, its a 102hp car. In the long run, where did your $200 parts take you? 104hp? 1-2 more MPG? If it was me, I'd buy the ebay "junk", mod it to fit if necessary, replace the filter and call it a day.

You don't ALWAYS get what you pay for.

[Nexus1155]

They take the stock airbox off, the look for a decent spot for a filter to be (usually as low as possible or away from the motor, etc). They make a pipe that bends and runs down to that location and they put a filter on it. They test for a CEL, and if it doesn't make one, they mass produce it. Dyno results are always fudged. They take a heat soaked car with a dirty filter and dyno it. Then they put their intake it and let it cool off and aim huge fans at it and dyno it again.

I freakin knew it!!!!

[mikenacarato]

well i have owned a civic, an rx7, my current volvo, i currently work for a volvo truck dealership in parts, was a tech for several years, im ase certified and more. not to mention i have also worked for a bmw performance shop, have built plenty of roll cages and done custom fab work. i have installed superchargers and turbos on various cars such as 2 ferrari 308gtsi models, lots and lots of bmws, custom built my own turbo kit on my volvo down to making the manifold AND the intake setup. now to the wheels, the fn01rc is a knockoff of a gram light/rays/volk wheel, it is not their original design. while it may be good quality, its not original.

[Split]

well i have owned a civic, an rx7, my current volvo, i currently work for a volvo truck dealership in parts, was a tech for several years, im ase certified and more. not to mention i have also worked for a bmw performance shop, have built plenty of roll cages and done custom fab work. i have installed superchargers and turbos on various cars such as 2 ferrari 308gtsi models, lots and lots of bmws, custom built my own turbo kit on my volvo down to making the manifold AND the intake setup. now to the wheels, the fn01rc is a knockoff of a gram light/rays/volk wheel, it is not their original design. while it may be good quality, its not original.

what happened to being only 21-years-old ?

[mikenacarato]

yeah? your point? can i not be 21?

the head mechanic at our local and only authorized ferrari repair shop is 20 years old.

[Midon]

Was layed up with internet problems. On this issue with the intakes. It really is each persons opinion. But since Our cars don't have that much displacement it really doesn't matter to me. The CAI I got off ebay for 50 buck does what it is designed to do. Move the filter to an area away from the hot air. Now I would understand if there were different materials used by the different companies. I know mine is made completely out of aluminum, true the filter that came with it is crap, and might let to much dirt pass into the engine, so what Just change the filter. All I was buying for the 50 bucks was the pipe. It is well made and hasn't thrown a CEL yet. So can the name brands make more HP I doubt it but we will never know until someone shows some dyno's with the different intakes.

My .02

[mikenacarato]

listen man, lets not make this a personal thing. by no means and i trying to put you down as a person or try to start any trouble. you original post was about how you were considering ditching your simota for an ebay intake. you asked if others have tried that intake. i have NOT tried the ebay intakes for the yaris nor do i plan on it. i have ran them on other cars only to have bad experiences due to crappy workmanship. you asked for opinions, i gave an opinion. that is all. i apologize for starting any trouble.

i agree with you midon, the only way to show anything is on a dyno. this is my first low displacement car and i know i need to not expect big gains from parts i buy regardless of brand. its going to be different for me to only get 1-4 hp from an intake vs. the 15-20 i picked up on my volvo and the 30hp and 45 torque from its exhaust too. different cars, different power numbers. im sorry for arguing.

[metalshark]

I put the pictured intake on six months ago. I really like the improved midrange and top end performance. Based on its helmoltz frequency of resonance your short rams will perform better at high revs and give up some bottom end torque. The ebay unit is better designed than the stock box because the pipe is straight and long on both sides of the sensor. In theory the undistrubed flow should give a more linear consistent air mass signal to the ECM.
It is a pain to service the air filter inside the left front fender. I have 15K on the odometer and tomorrow I have to pull the filter and wash it, dry it, and recharge it with the K&N kit. With this intake and all my exhaust mods I can bang the little mill off the rev limiter quickly. This intake is much better for a straight stick than an auto. If you gotta have a brand name and color anodize go for it. When I put this on I never got a CEL. Some of the users that went with the fancier CAIs did temporarily get CELs until their ECMs could re-write the learning part of their epromms.

[metalshark]

i agree but i have almost 30K

i had to flip the bumper back to get to the filter

same way on our TC too

I had to pull the left front tire off and pull down the bottom plastic panel under the left front fender to get the air filter off for cleaning and recharging with the K&N shampoo and oil.

[MadMax]

what happened to being only 21-years-old ?

Or not saying another word...

im sorry...i just believe in quality parts. I wont say another word.

Dude, it's his car, let him do what he wants with it! You have your opinion on what goes on your car, and that's fine; but quit trying to make everyone believe you are the sole authority and final word on this! Some of us have more car experience than you have time on this planet; so no matter how much of an expert you may think you are, there are many here who know more.

You've made your point, now let it go!

Cheers! M2

[Thej3sta2]

Or not saying another word...



Dude, it's his car, let him do what he wants with it! You have your opinion on what goes on your car, and that's fine; but quit trying to make everyone believe you are the sole authority and final word on this! Some of us have more car experience than you have time on this planet; so no matter how much of an expert you may think you are, there are many here who know more.

You've made your point, now let it go!

Cheers! M2

man seriously all he had to say was YES or NO. Not 15 post of "Im a Master machanic that works on ferraris and Volvos guy that make so much money at the age of 21 and buys a F***in Yaris."

IDIOT

[gwasabi]

Sorry to bring an old post back up but by any chance do you know the dimeter of that ebay pipe?

[Split]

i have it in my garage still, want me to check it out for you? for that matter, i can sell it to you if you want, i didn't end up using it.

[gwasabi]

if its the right diameter I'll buy it from you

[Split]

the inner diameter is 2.25" and the outside diameter if you include the pipe itself is 2.36".

[gwasabi]

How much for the intake with shipping to 96816??

[Split]

^ did you want a Simota filter with it? Most people are afraid of ebay filters. The pipe itself is really nice, it looks like its mandrel bent aluminum. Perfectly smooth bends. I would use it, but its so cold up here in Canada anyway that I dont need a cold air intake.. its always cold!

[Split]

from Canada to Hawaii its $46.00 for shipping =/

[gwasabi]

.....thats kinda expensive