Yaris design oversight...

[abattle]

I have had my 07 yaris sedan for about a month now and use the a/c everyday. I was looking at how clean the engine compartment was one day and noticed something that worried me. The a/c condensation drain pipe drips right onto a bolt and washer for the suspension/steering. I have only had it a month and already the washer was rusted badly! I had to change this immediately. I just took a piece of rubber hose and extended the drip away from everything to prevent the bolt (and who knows what else) from rusting....I feel much better about it and just wanted to pass this on to as many as I could. Thanks, abattle

[Idjiit]

Thanks for the tip!

[fearturtle44]

Nice find. Could you tell us exactly where to find this drain pipe in engine compartment?

Thanks.

[Chris07LB]

I have had my 07 yaris sedan for about a month now and use the a/c everyday. I was looking at how clean the engine compartment was one day and noticed something that worried me. The a/c condensation drain pipe drips right onto a bolt and washer for the suspension/steering. I have only had it a month and already the washer was rusted badly! I had to change this immediately. I just took a piece of rubber hose and extended the drip away from everything to prevent the bolt (and who knows what else) from rusting....I feel much better about it and just wanted to pass this on to as many as I could. Thanks, abattle

Any pics of exactly where this is?

[Chaad32]

Yes that would be nice seeing how I only have 600 miles on mine

[swng]

Any idea about whether the same happens to the HB?
I think Toyota should do a recall to fix the cars affected.

[Chaad32]

Hmm...I just realized that he had a sedan. I went to look at my L/B and it wasn't like that. Maby thats why.

[swng]

Thank you! You have just saved me some time which should have been used for checking out my own HB. Still feel sorry for the sedans.

[rstb88]

I was about to say cause I'm about to breech 5000miles and that means my suspension components are about ready to go if they are rusting like that. And make sure you get a replacement galvanized bolt. my a/c doesn't get that cold. do you think its possible that because it was a showroom vehicle it wasnt properly charged with r134a

[MacMaster761]

ummmmm, pictures of the pipe, and what type of hose did you use... thanks

[paeko73]

Will the dealership prevent the mentioned problem by doing the hose extension free of charge? Or will they tell you that it's "ok", and will fix it when it actually rust out like the original poster's sedan?

[abattle]

I doubt they will fix it for free(but I didnt ask)...Mine is located on the passanger side just behind the engine, way down at the bottom. I just slid a piece of hose aprox.5 inches long OVER the small hose. I think the inner diameter of the hose I put on was 1/2 inch(it fit snugly but I put silicone glue on it anyway, making sure NOT to obstruct the water flow)I will try to get a pic but not sure when I can get it in here, sorry...

[fearturtle44]

On my sedan, I looked and saw the water hitting the ground but could not see location of pipe. But the "nuts and bolts" still look good to me.

Pics would be nice.

Kevin

[weeze-dog]

A/C is dealer installed...you never know what you are going to get....

[Chaad32]

A/C is dealer installed...you never know what you are going to get....

I don't think so buddy

[Chris07LB]

A/C is dealer installed...you never know what you are going to get....

Only if it didn't originally come with A/C from the factory...... Is that what you ment to say? :confused:

[Chaad32]

A/C is standard. And he is from Ohio.....it is definately standard in the US

[Chris07LB]

A/C is standard. And he is from Ohio.....it is definately standard in the US

You know that... I know that.... I was asking if HE knew that. :laugh:

[Buckethead]

And we need some pics of what he's talking about.:iono:

[Chaad32]

Yes we do need some pics.......Didn't mean to ofend weeze-dog....sorry man.

[weeze-dog]

While the car come standard with A/C, I believe I read that the A/C is PPO or dealer installed and does not ship overseas with the A/C already installed from the factory? Wouldn't surprise me with regulations on chemicals and the like. I can't remember where I read that at, would have to ask someone who works in the service department.

[abattle]

I got pics of what I did... Not very good, but they will give you a good enough view to see where to look...
First pic: follow my finger down between the engine and the firewall, there is a small black pipe sticking out from the firewall about 2 inches long.882
Second pic: Here is where I installed a black hose over the small pipe. If the big black pipe was not here it would drip onto the bolt and washer below it...883
Third pic: Here is the rust already forming on mine...I have only 1000 miles on this car, nothing should be rusting!881 hope this helps clarify where i am talking about. If not let me know...Thanks, abattle

[oktaren]

actually...i just noticed this WAS happening on my liftback with 4000 miles on it...no rust yet, but the car was only used for a short period and then was traded in and i bought it. so it wasn't used during this heat streak we have beenhaving. either way i noticed water on the ground after running the ac for a while and i noticed it was dripping off of the same bold he is talking about...i will have to do the fix.

[Buckethead]

Well Done!

Gonna check mine too.


Thanks for posting pics!

:coolpics:

[swng]

I am a little nervous now. I will be keeping an eye on this thread. If a real problem exists, Toyota shoud do a recall.
However, I think even if the A/C does not drip over that spot, water may still wet it on rainy days, say when the car rolls over small pools of water. It is the rust resistance of the parts affected which needs improvement.

[Chaad32]

Thanks for the pics

[Dweeb]

what do you think happens when it rains.... it will get wet. Poeple, it's a car, it gets exposed to the elements and it's bolts and nuts will rust no matter what you do. Your car is not going to fall apart just because of a little rust on a bolt or nut !!!

[PSU Yaris]

there still shouldnt be rust at 1000 miles on any part of the car. i MAYBE would expect this from a ford or GM car, but not toyota

[Dweeb]

PSU Yaris, i agrre with you, but, actually there is rust on a car before you even pick it up. Unless all fasteners are SS or galvanized or aluminum, and if they are not painted or otherwise protected, they will start to rust as soon as they are exposed to water / moisture. (mind you this is just surface rust – oxidization - so no big deal) That is a plain fact. It’s bad, but that is just the way it is.

[Eclipsed830]

I had to sign up to laugh and say are you guys serous? :bellyroll: :bellyroll: :bellyroll: :bellyroll: :bellyroll:

[abattle]

I took my time to simply bring up a concern that(in my opinion) should be addressed as to not create premature failure on ANY brand new car... many of you appreciated this but a few were ridiculous in your response. This just lets me know who is taking care of their car and who destroys/dogs out their autos for no reason but to excite themselves. On that note, I will continue to explain to anyone who asks about anything I find on my yaris that should be addressed to prolong the life and value of it. The rest of you should go elsewhere with your wasteful responses...Thanks, abattle

[oktaren]

what do you think happens when it rains.... it will get wet. Poeple, it's a car, it gets exposed to the elements and it's bolts and nuts will rust no matter what you do. Your car is not going to fall apart just because of a little rust on a bolt or nut !!!

then ignore the post.

[Chris07LB]

I took my time to simply bring up a concern that(in my opinion) should be addressed as to not create premature failure on ANY brand new car... many of you appreciated this but a few were ridiculous in your response. This just lets me know who is taking care of their car and who destroys/dogs out their autos for no reason but to excite themselves. On that note, I will continue to explain to anyone who asks about anything I find on my yaris that should be addressed to prolong the life and value of it. The rest of you should go elsewhere with your wasteful responses...Thanks, abattle

Dont be bothered by it.. it happends on every internet message forum.

Its easy for some to sit behind a computer, and act like a tough guy.. (i.e. internet muscles) :drinking:

[Dweeb]

Wow, take it easy guys; I was just trying to point out the obvious. Metal rusts , nothing more. If you want to pamper and worry about your car like that, that is fine with me, after all it is your car.
Heck, if you guys find something interesting, great! I like to hear about it also. However there is nothing special or new about an unprotected “bolt or nut” rusting on a new car.
Maybe this is your first “new” car, so you may not have experienced this. Well, now you know.


Dweeb :wink:

[Chris07LB]

Wow, take it easy guys; I was just trying to point out the obvious. Metal rusts , nothing more. If you want to pamper and worry about your car like that, that is fine with me, after all it is your car.
Heck, if you guys find something interesting, great! I like to hear about it also. However there is nothing special or new about an unprotected “bolt or nut” rusting on a new car.
Maybe this is your first “new” car, so you may not have experienced this. Well, now you know.


Dweeb :wink:

Shoot, out of all the BMW's, Ford's, Nissan's, the Jeep, and now my first Toyota, there was always something that got rusted over... I guess its just bound to happen unless your car lives in a plastic bubble.

The original poster here though, had a valid complaint, that might just have been an oversight on Toyota's part.

Good find on that, I still say. :clap:

[oktaren]

Wow, take it easy guys; I was just trying to point out the obvious. Metal rusts , nothing more. If you want to pamper and worry about your car like that, that is fine with me, after all it is your car.
Heck, if you guys find something interesting, great! I like to hear about it also. However there is nothing special or new about an unprotected “bolt or nut” rusting on a new car.
Maybe this is your first “new” car, so you may not have experienced this. Well, now you know.


Dweeb :wink:


it wasn't just an unprotected bolt...the water actually drips RIGHT ONTO THE BOLT...ALL OF THE TIME...at least all of the time the air conditioner is on, and that is practically all the time for me.

[Eclipsed830]

I took my time to simply bring up a concern that(in my opinion) should be addressed as to not create premature failure on ANY brand new car... many of you appreciated this but a few were ridiculous in your response. This just lets me know who is taking care of their car and who destroys/dogs out their autos for no reason but to excite themselves. On that note, I will continue to explain to anyone who asks about anything I find on my yaris that should be addressed to prolong the life and value of it. The rest of you should go elsewhere with your wasteful responses...Thanks, abattle

Wasteful responses? Your talking about a bolt rusting. If you are worried about the head of a bolt rusting, you should have just brought a 100 percent plastic car. All bolts rust, and are meant to rust. Your suspension will not fail at 4,000 miles, or 300,000 miles because water was constantly dripping on a bolt. All cars have bolts like that. Thats like me telling Lexus they need to recall my ES300, because my license plate bolts rusted the first time they got wet. Bolts are going to get wet, and rust. All cars have this issue, not just the Yarris. I would almost pay to see you tell the service writer at Toyota that they need to recall the Yarris because a bolt is rusting, the look on his face would be priceless. Its obvious you don't have much knowledge on cars, otherwise you wouldn't be worrying about this. So just trust me, and don't worry about it. Its nothing big, and it sure as hell doesn't need a recall. I originally thought this was a joke, but I guess not. :thumbdown:

[Eclipsed830]

it wasn't just an unprotected bolt...the water actually drips RIGHT ONTO THE BOLT...ALL OF THE TIME...at least all of the time the air conditioner is on, and that is practically all the time for me.

Its perfectly fine. All cars have to drip the condensation off their AC somewhere.

[oktaren]

Its perfectly fine. All cars have to drip the condensation off their AC somewhere.


yeah, onto the GROUND!

[oktaren]

Wasteful responses? Your talking about a bolt rusting. If you are worried about the head of a bolt rusting, you should have just brought a 100 percent plastic car. All bolts rust, and are meant to rust. Your suspension will not fail at 4,000 miles, or 300,000 miles because water was constantly dripping on a bolt. All cars have bolts like that. Thats like me telling Lexus they need to recall my ES300, because my license plate bolts rusted the first time they got wet. Bolts are going to get wet, and rust. All cars have this issue, not just the Yarris. I would almost pay to see you tell the service writer at Toyota that they need to recall the Yarris because a bolt is rusting, the look on his face would be priceless. Its obvious you don't have much knowledge on cars, otherwise you wouldn't be worrying about this. So just trust me, and don't worry about it. Its nothing big, and it sure as hell doesn't need a recall. I originally thought this was a joke, but I guess not. :thumbdown:


no one is saying that it needs to be recalled, at least i didn't see that. we are just saying that it is dripping right onto a bold, constantly, and that you can do soemthing about it yourself. its not once in a while, ALL THE TIME THAT A/C IS ON. which, in the summer, is almost always. if you don't like what we are talking about, you can always read something else. no one is forcing the conversation down your throat.

[fnkngrv]

I had to sign up to laugh and say are you guys serous? :bellyroll: :bellyroll: :bellyroll: :bellyroll: :bellyroll:


I was just curious as to why you are really on our boards seeing as how you posted the above? This is the only thread that you have accessed and placed a post into...just wondering if you are around to cause trouble or if you are a Yaris fan or enthusiast? If you were to take a look at the title of the Forum it clearly states:

http://www.yarisworld.com/forums/ver2/leftlogo.jpg

You can argue all you want about the chemical realities of the oxidization of metal (AKA rust) however the guy was trying to let people know to look out for a possible problem. How many times in history has there been people with your mindset that said "oh well ______ happens and you can't control it seeing as how it is a fact of nature." and due to that lack of attention to "possible however unlikely" instances all forms of issues and tragedies have arisen. Maybe it is just my military backround that screams to pay attention to all options, or maybe I am just being over cautious by your standards....either way why don't you either pony up and get a Yaris to be able to make true remarks or get in your Eclipse and roll on out.

Either way do something fruitful for someone.


There...I am done being an a$$hole:thumbup:

[brg88tx]

i just noticed this on my sedan as well. the bolt itself is not rusting (must be galvanized), but the washer under the bolt is. stupid design. hope there's no problems down the road.

[47_MasoN_47]

4 year old thread bro, why did you resurrect this crap? lol

[why?]

because he thinks grave digging is fun!

[brg88tx]

4 year old thread bro, why did you resurrect this crap? lol

because i noticed this on mine and know how to use the search feature. would you have preferred i started a new thread about it?

[47_MasoN_47]

I think by now fnkngrv's car wouldn't be running if this was something to be concerned about. The general consensus of the thread was that this was not a big deal...so why bring it up again? If people who saw this 4 years ago are still going strong, it's obviously nothing to be concerned with.

[127.0.0.1]

Wasteful responses? Your talking about a bolt rusting. If you are worried about the head of a bolt rusting, you should have just brought a 100 percent plastic car. All bolts rust, and are meant to rust. Your suspension will not fail at 4,000 miles, or 300,000 miles because water was constantly dripping on a bolt. All cars have bolts like that. Thats like me telling Lexus they need to recall my ES300, because my license plate bolts rusted the first time they got wet. Bolts are going to get wet, and rust. All cars have this issue, not just the Yarris. I would almost pay to see you tell the service writer at Toyota that they need to recall the Yarris because a bolt is rusting, the look on his face would be priceless. Its obvious you don't have much knowledge on cars, otherwise you wouldn't be worrying about this. So just trust me, and don't worry about it. Its nothing big, and it sure as hell doesn't need a recall. I originally thought this was a joke, but I guess not. :thumbdown:

this ^ times eleventy billion.

so so many people on Yaris forums who just do not know the automobile


bolts rust and that is why service centers have torches

and for those who want an automobile to remain pristine, the options
are 1) do not drive it 2) keep it garaged and 3) zeibart, kroil, cosmolene




PS: that bolt you are talking about will need over 30 years of rusting with clean
condensed water before it becomes an issue. at that age, there will be different concerns not related to the bolt

[127.0.0.1]

no one is saying that it needs to be recalled, at least i didn't see that. we are just saying that it is dripping right onto a bold, constantly, and that you can do soemthing about it yourself. its not once in a while, ALL THE TIME THAT A/C IS ON. which, in the summer, is almost always. if you don't like what we are talking about, you can always read something else. no one is forcing the conversation down your throat.

but when something is so utterly laughable, we want to point it out, so that you can reflect, and maybe think..."gee, what is it I need to learn from this, so people won't laugh at me anymore ?" :thumbsup:

that is, if you care about increasing your car knowledge and want to gain respect from those in and around the industry....:bellyroll:

[swidd]

To the guy who said A/C doesn't blow cold: search for the DIY project to wrap insulating foam from Home Depot ($3 for a 6 ft tube) around the low pressure return line that runs around the alternator, left side of engine compartment ... it makes it extremely cold, and rapidly so even in 100F summer heat.

[why?]

okay guys, almost this entire thread is over 4 years old, the majority of the posters haven't been here in years.

And the initial issue didn't matter. I haven't looked at it, and my car is 4 years old and it is still fine.

[127.0.0.1]

127.0.0.1 oversight

I didn't notice this was a dead thread. but it still elicits guffaws

[sleey0]

Made me chuckle, for sure. hahaha

[why?]

127.0.0.1 oversight

I didn't notice this was a dead thread. but it still elicits guffaws

no doubt it is funny to read.

[Horrid Mischief]

Hi all! I was checking out the forums before I made my purchase of a Yaris and after the test drive of an 08' sedan I opened the hood and was poking around. Remembering this thread I looked and sure enough the water was dripping right on the bolt! I purchased the car yesterday and one of the first mods I plan on doing is extending/re-directing the hose away from the bolt. Should be really easy. When I do it I'll take pics or vids and post them.

Good info here, thanks for everyone's help in the decision making process!

[ddongbap]

Don't worry about it. If the A/C condenser water doesn't get to it, the weather will.