View Full Version : Has anyone gotten PULSTAR pulse-plugs yet?
DESIGNZIT
11-12-2008, 07:37 PM
Can anyone tell me more about the Pulstar pulse spark plugs? ...... Are they worth it at $25 each and do they enhance performance and gas mileage as their ads say.........Their website is PULSTAR.COM ......Let me know if you think they are worth the money or not....and do they damage the engine?...:cool:
mikenacarato
11-12-2008, 07:40 PM
never tried them, but have heard good things such as a few hp (1-3 hp), and a cleaner more efficient fuel burn . i think they would be more beneficial if you had some plasma coils like the ones from okada to complement. problem is thats another $800
Black Yaris
11-12-2008, 07:40 PM
I have them in the xB.... I have noticed some improvement, but no more than lightened pulleys, and intake or exhaust.... so if you compare the price to some of these other items $100 is a good buy
I can see with other improvements would amplify the effect of the plugs
Nexus1155
11-12-2008, 08:37 PM
didnt someone in here have them, something happened, went to the dealer and it voided the warranty... Burnt out the coilplug i think?
mikenacarato
11-12-2008, 08:40 PM
dang, those are some powerful plugs then! lol how are the warranties on toyotas? do they say anything done will void it or can you modify them without issues? i know its easy for them to prove that plug killing the coil but is toyota pretty lienant?
Nexus1155
11-12-2008, 10:22 PM
well i mean if it is directly related to the issue, they will void it for that instance... like say if i put springs in and then the tie rod went... they would say it was my fault... If i put a supercharger on, engine blew... definately my fault.... but they cant be like oh your windshield washer doesn't work because you put springs in or something stupid...
Some dealers are pretty strict some cool, stay away from strict ones... Expressway Toyota 143
mikenacarato
11-12-2008, 10:38 PM
ya i know it can void it if its a direct cause but some places have it stated that any mods void it..period. i would hope toyota being able to sell/install/warranty trd parts they would be lieniant on it.
Black Yaris
11-12-2008, 10:43 PM
replacing your spark plugs can not void your warranty
read the magnuson moss
mikenacarato
11-12-2008, 10:52 PM
i believe that they can say in your buyers agreement that any mods will void it and it will. if it is not clearly stated then the mag-moss wins! i love mag-moss :)
ive never had that issue come up though but thats what ive heard.
bikegerm
11-13-2008, 10:59 AM
Yes guys and gals, I was that someone with the pulstar plug problem. I installed them, and definitely felt a performance gain. My car had a little more pickup and ran amazingly smooth ..... UNTIL.... Six weeks later I went to start my car up after work and it began sputtering and the check engine light came on. My immediate thoughts were that it wasn't firing on all four cylinders. Good thing the toyota dealership is only three blocks from work. I left my car at work got it to the dealership the next morning and received a call a few hours later telling me that my "high performance plugs" and caused one of my coils to burn out. The repair bill was $330 for the labor, four factory spark plugs, and a new coil.
About 10 days later I received a call from Interpulse asking me about my satisfaction with my Pulstar Pulse Plugs. I told them what had happened and my disappointment with their product. Customer service then responded my issueing me a check for the repair on my vehicle. They didn't refund my original purchase on the plugs but they did pay to fix my car. I must say I was impressed !!
So... with my experience I say, "Don't put them in your Yaris". You're running a risk. You may be ok, but don't count on it. You could get stranded with a burnt coil and a check engine light mishap.
Nexus1155
11-13-2008, 11:10 AM
maybe with upgraded coil packs it would work... but i am glad that they did refund your money....
mikenacarato
11-13-2008, 11:10 AM
at least they paid for your car. that was mighty nice. :) ive always wanted to try them out but if i do ill upgrade to coils first.
nsmitchell
11-13-2008, 11:46 AM
I have them in my Yaris. They seem OK, but not worth the money. I had them in My 2002 Odyssey that is sold now. I had to take them out and return them to Enerpulse because they were causing all sorts of bucking and other weird issues. I put the original NGKs back in an problems were gone.
Enerpulse said the plugs were too hot and sent me 6 more that I promptly sold on ebay for $20.00/each since I was selling the Odyssey.
My brother has them in his xB and also says it runs smooth and seems to have some more pep as well.
I will not be touching the plugs in my Fit for 2 reasons. The MPGs I don't think can be improved upon, and they plugs are going to be a royal pain to get to, unless the wiper cowl/shroud comes off easily.
mikenacarato
11-13-2008, 12:42 PM
actually mpgs on any gas powered car can be improved upon..just how much is the question (and is it worth it to get there). by using these plugs (assuming they will not start to foul out) they burn the fuel more completely therefore producing more power and furthermore reducing the amount of throttle you will have to input to get your response. the end result is more mpg. a big reason that you see carbon deposits is because a gas car only burns roughly 60% of its fuel.
were starting to put some hydrogen units on some trucks here at work which are diesel semi trucks. weve actually seen 20% gains in fuel mileage with these units, which for a trucker is downright incredible. some of our major fleet customers such as averitt and first fleet will be able to save 10,000 at least in fuel PER TRUCK per year. not to mention they put out zero emissions with hydrogen injection. were actually talking with a company who is going to produce car kits for the public as well and they are friggin sweet. imagine 75-80mpg from your yaris at least. who knows how high it can go..they got 60 from a subaru wrx wagon, and im getting almost 35 highway in my lincoln.
but as to is it worth it to get these plugs for a passenger car..probably not worth it by itself.
zuberio
11-13-2008, 01:01 PM
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/OKADA-PROJECTS-PLASMA-DIRECT-06-YARIS-00-ECHO-1-5L_W0QQitemZ330279144488QQcmdZViewItem
US $698.25 for Okada Projects Plasma Coils to handle the extra power the Pulstar Sparks need.
mikenacarato
11-13-2008, 01:58 PM
okada makes great products too! those are the upgraded coils i was referring to.
dallas
11-14-2008, 02:54 AM
Good find, anyone with turbo or supercharging will benefit even more with a stronger spark. But multiple sparks will shorten the life of the plugs big time.
Black Yaris
11-14-2008, 07:56 AM
I call BS on Toyota there.... if you actually read about the pulse plugs they do not require any more from the coil than a standard plug.... it has the same input into the plug, the "pulse" is generated within the plug.
Yes guys and gals, I was that someone with the pulstar plug problem. I installed them, and definitely felt a performance gain. My car had a little more pickup and ran amazingly smooth ..... UNTIL.... Six weeks later I went to start my car up after work and it began sputtering and the check engine light came on. My immediate thoughts were that it wasn't firing on all four cylinders. Good thing the toyota dealership is only three blocks from work. I left my car at work got it to the dealership the next morning and received a call a few hours later telling me that my "high performance plugs" and caused one of my coils to burn out. The repair bill was $330 for the labor, four factory spark plugs, and a new coil.
About 10 days later I received a call from Interpulse asking me about my satisfaction with my Pulstar Pulse Plugs. I told them what had happened and my disappointment with their product. Customer service then responded my issueing me a check for the repair on my vehicle. They didn't refund my original purchase on the plugs but they did pay to fix my car. I must say I was impressed !!
So... with my experience I say, "Don't put them in your Yaris". You're running a risk. You may be ok, but don't count on it. You could get stranded with a burnt coil and a check engine light mishap.
I call BS on Toyota there.... if you actually read about the pulse plugs they do not require any more from the coil than a standard plug.... it has the same input into the plug, the "pulse" is generated within the plug.
I have a 2007 Yaris and have been using the Plus Plugs for two years and they work great increasing my gas mil by 5 miles per gallon I get 40 miles per gallon using them 35 not using them not to mention more power. I think what happen to your Yaris was that you already had a weak coil or a manufacture defect. When a mechanic saw my plugs at a check up he said they where a waste of money which I laughed at because I have been testing them for two years with and without. One very important thing to note is not all mechanics know what they are talking about and very afraid of new technology.
Marfulion
11-06-2009, 02:25 PM
Not sure bout what pulstar pulse plugs are, but i can tell you from experience that the ngk iridium plugs really make the throttle feel so much more crisp.
127.0.0.1
11-06-2009, 02:46 PM
lol
scam, really.
you can grind and index plain old OEM plugs and get the exact same performance.
a spark is a spark is a spark. you can't -get a better burn- with a different plug. all you might be able to do is avoid indexing them.
test:
take 2 sheets of paper. take one, light one corner with a wooden match, watch it burn
take the other paper, and light one corner with an gas welder. which paper burns better ?
they both burn the same. ditto for your engine
now yeah I know the ignition point of the paper is the same, but can be achieved earlier
with the torch...but the burn is the same...in a gasoline engine, under compression, a feeble spark vs a hotter
one makes no difference in the speed of the flame front or completion of the burn. but the 'index' or 'aim-point' of the sparkplug
electrode makes a difference if they are set incorrectly. that is why sparkplugs have compression
washers, so you can tighten them, and then index them.
if you index the stock plugs properly, they will be exactly as good as any expensive plug.
hence...expensive high-zoot plug is not really doing anything but making
the wallet lighter.
I am not saying peoples results with high-end plugs are false. they may be true. but those results
can be had with any OEM-spec plug that isn't worn, and is indexed properly. often the 'bigger spark'
plugs, or open-electrode plugs, solve problems that exist due to improperly installed normal plugs.
yaris-me
11-07-2009, 03:46 AM
I don't buy your analogy about the match vs gas welder. The paper would have a faster ignition with the gas welder. I don't buy your feeble spark vs hotter. Why would Ford and Mazda and Mercedes use a double spark plug and why would manufacturer go to individual coils? Why would racers use a hotter ignition system and double spark plugs?:laugh:
severous01
11-07-2009, 04:40 PM
one of the power block shows got 6hp with just the plugs on a dyno.
TheSilkySmooth
11-17-2009, 07:46 PM
127 is right. Ir are the best plug technology out there. If you run at WOT a lot try one heat range colder - up to a 6. The Bottle and turbo will put you at a 7 heat range or colder. If you what to mod, Bigger coils with big DC feed wires and a slightly larger gap will reduce misfires. Some times when you swap plugs you just luck out with a good index and you get more power.
severous01
05-12-2010, 12:01 PM
the only way more spark will help is just that...more spark. and i'm not talking a hotter spark. i'm talking longer travel. the spark ignites more gas through it's travel increasing burn times, reducing time it takes for complete combustion...increasing throttle response and increasing mileage due to the fact that less fuel exits the tail pipe.
but...until ford and chevy actually come out with the iridium tipped pistons and a single sided spark plug with no electrode on it...we're stuck with the ages old technology of a .035 thousandths gap.
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