LB vs Sedan

[drbilal]

Im not sure if this type of thing has been posted here before, if it has, my bad.

It seems to me the majority of this site is LB owners, so I figured why not make a poll to see the percentage of YW members that have a sedan vs lb.

Why? Meh, just for fun.

[captainm27]

I love my sedan. I never EVEN considered the liftback. No way. What's so cool about it? The Sedan offers plenty of room for driving people around, and the 4 doors makes taking people in and out so much more easier. Plus I like how I can keep all my stuff hidden in the trunk, and not exposed.

[Minne_Yaris]

I like my Sedan.. but there's just way more stuff out there for the LBs.

[Sodium Duck]

Liftbacks = better.

[drbilal]

Agreed, good to see the first two replys are from fellow sedan drivers :thumbsup: There is more stuff out there for LBs, but I gota go with the Sedan (obv cause I have one) I wouldnt trade it for a LB anyday.

Sedan FTW.


Let the voting begin! This should be fun, and remember, all in good fun. No need for sedan/lb bashing but do feel free to post about pros and cons of each :P (I know sedans are going to get killed in this one but well go down with a fight)

[Sodium Duck]

I have 3 glove boxes. =P

[darthbauer]

I liked the sedan before I got my liftback and I didnt like hatchback anything back then. I started liking hatchbacks more and then I got my Yaris. I'm more than happy with the decision that I made.

[SilverBack]

About the LB exposing its' cargo in the trunk, it's doesn't really have to be exposed at all. There's a rear deck that opens up with the trunk lid and it can also be removed if needed. So in a way the owners of LBs can decide if they wanna to show off what's in the trunk or not.

Guess the Sedan owners will just have to settle for a large piece of sheet metal, which doesn't show anything :laugh:

The Sedan is pretty nice, but I would never give-up my LB:thumbsup:

[PreciousPups4U]

I had to go with the LB. Hauling dog crates and food and such. Like the sedans too though.

[Yoda]

Liftbacks = better.

pfff 4dr ftw. Much better and its lighter:w00t:
More practical for my use.

[Kaotic Lazagna]

Vios owner here.

[RagnaCaT]

HB FTW! although I drive both but the SD was the wifes choice SD FTGIRLS! LoL Just kidding both are functional for you diferent needs. I wouldn't change HB for anything and my wife doesn't really like the HB... SO?! Thats what I got it M/T

[Sodium Duck]

pfff 4dr ftw. Much better and its lighter:w00t:
More practical for my use.

2009 LB Auto, 2340 lbs.
2009 Sedan Auto, 2326 lbs.

Whoa, 14 lbs... :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry:

I have been powned... ... ... ... ... ... ...

The sedan is obviously better then... NOT! :laugh:

[PaidTimeOff]

pfff 4dr ftw. Much better and its lighter:w00t:
More practical for my use.

Also, in the US with the 2009s, the lb can come with... wait for it... 5-DOORS!!!

[Sodium Duck]

BTW...

2009 Sedan base price, $12,965
2009 LB base price, $12,205

Eat that. =] loljk

[RagnaCaT]

Also, in the US with the 2009s, the lb can come with... wait for it... 5-DOORS!!!

LOL

[rningonfumes]

I have 3 glove boxes. =P


As far as I'm concerned, he won.

pasdfidsjffej!!! Dammit! I WANT MY THIRD GLOVE BOX!

[Sodium Duck]

hahahahahahahaha

[PaidTimeOff]

In all honesty tho, the Sedan's pretty sweet. I know I would have gotten that over the lb if I had kids or lots of carpooling to do.

[rningonfumes]

Whoa...IN anguish, I wasn't paying attention...one in front of the passenger, another behind the steering in the hatch...

...what third one?

I want the one behind the steering column~! Frinkin waste of space not to have anything there.... and I want that third one, where ever it is!

[PaidTimeOff]

third one's right above the "regular" one in front of the passenger seat

[Carrot Top]

Glovebox # 1...behind steering wheel in the dashboard
Glovebox #2...in front of passenger in the dashboard
Glovebox #3....below glovebox #2 .
Glovebox#4.....under back of hatch where the spare tire is. I keep all my tools, booster cables, rope etc. there.

Four reasons that the hatchback ROCKS!!! :)

[eTiMaGo]

let's not turn this into a bashing thread, guys, please?

Each body style has its advantages and drawbacks, and appeal to different people differently. Let's leave it at that.

Personally I really like both, I'd like to get a sedan next if I ever get a new car :biggrin:

[IsLNdbOi]

Yes, driver side glovebox is great. The 5-door LB is nice. The convenience of the Sedan in the LB form factor. Also, I have that hatch cover that swings up and down with the hatch door, keeping whatever is in the hatch covered up.

[SIPNGAS]

I wanted the LB..got one....

then I saw Tristan's and Mike's sedans and like them as well...

eh...I won't second guess what I have as I *love* my car...but I wouldn't tell anyone that my choice was better than theirs. It's a personal thing, ya know?

[b_hickman11]

I voted...but it only lets you vote once. I have two Sedans. This thread is pretty gay...

[Sodium Duck]

You should have two accounts then. =]

[Ryu]

Voted, it really is quite interesting to know the ratio of LB and sedan owner here.

[rningonfumes]

Arrrgh, lol...I want my other two glove boxes!!!

[*MAD DOG*]

I own a liftback. I love the look of the liftback and how convenient it is to use, including folding down the seats and being able to pretty much put whatever you want in the back of it.

I'm not a fan of the sedan and think they should have called the sedan something different to Yaris. Like they have Vios/Belta/Vitz as different names. I would never consider buying the sedan as to me they look fugly.

Before I get flamed for my comments, i have seen some really nice Yaris sedans mith some great cosmetic mods, i'm really not a fan of the stock look on the Yaris sedan. But hey everyone is entitled to there own opinion.

[specialeducator]

I test drove both and chose the sedan because it met my overall needs better. If I was to chose simply on commuting needs I would have gone with the 3 door.

[MUSKOKA800]

I enjoy my sedan. Really never even considered a LB.

[Slitwrist Smile]

I have 3 glove boxes. =P


hows your tach.. lol.. :)

[b_hickman11]

Does both mean 5 door or means someone has a 3dr and 4dr?

[drbilal]

both means someone has a lb and a sedan, regardless of doors.

[1stToyota]

Does both mean 5 door or means someone has a 3dr and 4dr?

:rolleyes:

[m911gt]

I would just feel too "normal" driving a sedan. The college student in me says LB all the way, but a few sedans on YW are very nice as well. I just like to have something different and more eye catching. The sedan is just too average for my taste. Plus, I wanted a 2 door so I wouldn't always be elected to drive everyone around.

[jclo3313]

desiree3313 and myself both have LB's. The only thing I wish that Toyota had offered in the 08' model year would have been a five door.

[tetzyamis]

I own 2 LB, but only can vote once :tongue:

[toad]

got both so i'll give you my impressions. bought sedan first because we needed something with 4 doors and excellent gas mileage(that and the corolla is the most BORING-looking car ever imho - sorry corolla owners!). we got an auto because it's my wife's primary car and she wanted that. got lb second because my car literally fell-apart on the way home one day and i needed something as inexpensive as possible, but i wanted a new car. i purchased a manual lb with as few options as i could find. thoughts? i definately like the headlights and tails better on the sedan(the factory ones anyways). in fact, i like the overall 'look' of the sedan better(reminds me of a mini-camry- the new ones). 4 doors is also nice if you're loading kids in carseats everyday too! however, the lb is funner(is that a word?) to drive, but that might just be the transmission. i hate the factory headlights and tails on the lb, but that can be fixed(eyelids and new tails). also, its a PAIN loading carseats in the back, but i won't be doing that forever! there's more aftermarket for the lb, but i haven't done any mods yet('yet' being key word- christmas is just around the corner!). i also like that it's a little shorter and the hatchback versatility. overall, there's things i like/dislike about both. sorry for the long-winded response!

[YarisPR]

I drive a sedan............. I just faster than the LB !!!!!!

LOL

[MUSKOKA800]

I have 3 glove boxes. =P

:laughabove: I don't have three pair of gloves. :iono:

[lita_g]

I have a LB, I didn't even try the sedan because I was looking for a hatchback, I did test drive hatchbacks from other manufacturers though and I liked the yaris best because it didn't seem as big as the others (but it was still spacious enough) and it had only 2 doors. I never carry passengers, at least not beside my husband or 1 friend next to me, so the back seats in my previous cars have always been a waste of space.

I love the fact that I can put the seats down and get the dog bed and have my dog in the back, laying comfortably instead of worrying about falling between the seats or not having enough room to get up and turn around.

I don't have children and don't carry passengers, so a 2 door seemed perfect for my lifestyle. I used to think the sedan was pretty ugly, but I guess that might have been older models because the latest ones do look like a little camry, not bad.

[Yoda]

2009 LB Auto, 2340 lbs.
2009 Sedan Auto, 2326 lbs.

Whoa, 14 lbs... :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry:

I have been powned... ... ... ... ... ... ...

The sedan is obviously better then... NOT! :laugh:

check the manual specs for the 5dr vs the 4dr
o wait does the 5dr only come in Auto:wink:

PS. Where's the tach on the LB?
Another reason i go the sedan.

[vios7]

Here at malaysia, LB is more expensive than sedan..weird huh?.

[drbilal]

Nothing normal bout my sedan!:biggrin: Also I think the norm is actually having the lb (check poll please) as more people seem to have those than the sedan.:laugh: :bellyroll:

Good point :thumbsup: Imo the sedan just looks better, from stock to mod. The only thing I like better in the LB is the number of compartments. Other than that its sedan ftw.

[Yoda]

^^^FTW:biggrin:

[mikenacarato]

LB = Lots Better!!!

:tongue:

[Yoda]

i can already see where this will end up so let me stop adding fuel to the fire before they create separate forums for LB and SD:rolleyes:

[CpKi1g3]

:respekt:Lb are good looking and all i didn't like them at all when i was buying my sedan but by time they came out looking good and i want one just for fun, but the main reason for me buying the sedan was passengers including my mom she drives it too (And yes it is my car!!! its under my name and all!!!). but after all the things i been thru with this car its has come real handy including commuting to roadtrips... and i really like the looks of the sedan i always had been a sedan guy:headbang:.

[RagnaCaT]

I drive a sedan............. I just faster than the LB !!!!!!

LOL

What? Let's check that OUT! LOL!:evil:

[upgradedyaris]

Not just a "lift back" but a 5 door lift back. :wink:

[PaidTimeOff]

hows your tach.. lol.. :)

well MY tach in my lb is doing great :thumbsup:

http://i308.photobucket.com/albums/kk356/hybrid45photo/5.jpg

[PaidTimeOff]

Nothing normal bout my sedan!:biggrin: Also I think the norm is actually having the lb (check poll please) as more people seem to have those than the sedan.:laugh: :bellyroll:

well, that's on this site. There are without a doubt far more sedans than there are lbs (or even hatchbacks in general) on the road.

[Ratboy]

I have the sedan which I believe is better for my family. I can fit all five family members and go to the grocery store with plenty of storage space. The LB cargo sucks! During a test drive I pushed the rear seats all the way back and noticed they there really wasn't any cargo space like my vw vr6 had.If I was single I would definitely go for the LB but with three kids and a wife, it just would not be practical. And oh, who cars about three glove boxes. I hope people didn't by the LB because it has three glove boxes. And for the idiots who put all the performance parts on including the turbo's to make their yaris' faster, give up and go buy a vw gti...it's a lot faster!!! I bought mine because of the fuel savings.

[tetzyamis]

Poll is about "What are you driving? Sedan or LB?".
But somehow, discussion turned out to be "Which one is better? Sedan or LB?".
Sad... :tongue:

[PaidTimeOff]

I have the sedan which I believe is better for my family. I can fit all five family members and go to the grocery store with plenty of storage space. The LB cargo sucks! During a test drive I pushed the rear seats all the way back and noticed they there really wasn't any cargo space like my vw vr6 had.If I was single I would definitely go for the LB but with three kids and a wife, it just would not be practical. And oh, who cars about three glove boxes. I hope people didn't by the LB because it has three glove boxes. And for the idiots who put all the performance parts on including the turbo's to make their yaris' faster, give up and go buy a vw gti...it's a lot faster!!! I bought mine because of the fuel savings.

A couple great points about family and cargo, followed by an absolutely terrible point at the end.

btw, pretty sure nobody in the history of auto buying has ever made a vehicle purchase based on the number of glove boxes a car has :bellyroll:

[CpKi1g3]

A couple great points about family and cargo, followed by an absolutely terrible point at the end.

btw, pretty sure nobody in the history of auto buying has ever made a vehicle purchase based on the number of glove boxes a car has :bellyroll:

2nd that!!!

[Red Horse]

Sedan is better, I seen a lot of old folks driving an LB.

[b_hickman11]

This poll is going to be one sided because usually younger people are going to drive LB. Also younger people usually are part of online forums more than older people...

[kimona]

Let's not make this a "which one is better" thread.

The HB and sedan are entirely different cars, designed and distributed by quite separate divisions. They actually share very few componets in common. For some unknown reason, Toyota chose to sell them in some offshore markets both badged with the Yaris nameplate... makes no sense at all, but what the heck.

Can we just make a mature and reasonable comparison of some of the features of and available upgrades for the two cars without the folishness?

[PaidTimeOff]

Well there are all types people and different age brackets on this site which makes a good representation of the general public. and I would be willing to bet that the LB outsells the sedan in real world statistics, just as the poll on this thread specifies. This probably the reason there is more aftermarket support for the LB over the sedan. In Hawaii there may be more sedans on the roads than LB's but I see way more LB's on the roads than I do sedans.

By no means is the population of this site representative of the nation as a whole. It can also be argued that younger aged people tend to buy 2-door hatchbacks over 4-door sedans, which could explain the larger selection of aftermarket parts available for the lb. Also the fact that the Vitz in Japan has its own cult following of tuners and the Belta has yet to make a true mark with tuners there.

Well, agree to disagree, no matter what we argue, neither of us has the true statistical sales data (and no matter what, the poll on here just shows that more users on this site buy lbs). So I say we just leave it at that :smile:

[PreciousPups4U]

There are way more sedans around here. I hardly ever see any LB. I have only seen maybe 10 driving around since I got mine in May 08. Both are great cars by the way. Just depends on what you need it for and personal preferences.

[DFA]

5 door LB.

Best of both worlds :biggrin:

[*MAD DOG*]

Gotta love it when your posts get deleted and you get no notification about it. Very professional.



Sooks.

[Yoda]

lol yup. But all in all i have nothing against the lb i like it actually. As stated before the sedan fits my needs.Pretty sure thats why most people choose there car. It fits there use. now the 09 lb offers both... but in auto :( If it was a mani i would trade up in a heart beat.

[CpKi1g3]

lol yup. But all in all i have nothing against the lb i like it actually. As stated before the sedan fits my needs.Pretty sure thats why most people choose there car. It fits there use. now the 09 lb offers both... but in auto :( If it was a mani i would trade up in a heart beat.

a few bills might come in handy to make it manual... not the easiest thing to do but worth it if you really want it...:thumbup: and if you do :w00t::clap::thumbup::thumbsup::headbang:

[kimona]

Gotta love it when your posts get deleted and you get no notification about it. Very professional.



Sooks.

I believe due notice was given in post #64.

FYI, we had a similar thread way back when... and it degenerated into a name calling rant.

[Black Yaris]

trunks are for old people...... Hatches FTW

[*MAD DOG*]

Gotta love it when your posts get deleted and you get no notification about it. Very professional.



Sooks.

I believe due notice was given in post #64.

FYI, we had a similar thread way back when... and it degenerated into a name calling rant.

Let's not make this a "which one is better" thread.

The HB and sedan are entirely different cars, designed and distributed by quite separate divisions. They actually share very few componets in common. For some unknown reason, Toyota chose to sell them in some offshore markets both badged with the Yaris nameplate... makes no sense at all, but what the heck.

Can we just make a mature and reasonable comparison of some of the features of and available upgrades for the two cars without the folishness?

I still fail to see how at all post #64 notifies me that you deleted my post. Notification that you deleted my post would be a post of your own stating so or even a more polite thing would be a pm.

This is a forum right? A place where people can voice their own opinions, right?

[eTiMaGo]

Tony, I'm sorry, but this is exactly the kind of behavior that turned previous threads to crap and it's happening again. So consider this your warning, everyone else too, let's have some respect.

[eTiMaGo]

camell, enough too, let's leave it at that.

[b_hickman11]

Well I don't know what you call statistics but the poll on this site is a statistic that drastically shows the LB is purchased more than the sedan. I just stated that this site is a general consensus of what people buy throughout the united states and elsewhere as there are all ages, races and people from different countries on this site, if you don't think that is a good general representation then I don't know what to tell you. There is a whole range of age differences that buy both cars to say that young people tend to buy the LB is just a plain stupid comment. There are a lot of middle age and older people here that also have the LB, as well as there are young and older people who have the sedan.

You are right though obviously we will never agree so as you stated lets just agree to disagree.


But....if there are 100 16-20 yr olds on here and only 20 30-70 yr olds on here that is not a good representation. Economy cars like the Yaris are usually purchased by the younger population. High School kids and college aged kids don't have a lot of money so they buy the Yaris or their parents buy it for them. The younger population is the ones that are more likely going to customize their cars so therefore it makes sense that parts companies gear their sales towards the LB.

In order for this poll to be correct, it must be broken down into age groups. If 100 people vote, and only 10 of them are older people, then your results are going to be off.

[Ratboy]

A couple great points about family and cargo, followed by an absolutely terrible point at the end.

btw, pretty sure nobody in the history of auto buying has ever made a vehicle purchase based on the number of glove boxes a car has :bellyroll:

Actually several references to the glove boxes make a lot of sense to my point. You say, " btw, pretty sure nobody in the history of auto buying has ever made a vehicle purchase based on the number of glove boxes a car has." Read the first two pages! It sounds like they have. But I guess I'm too old if I read it wrong:iono:

[*MAD DOG*]

Tony, I'm sorry, but this is exactly the kind of behavior that turned previous threads to crap and it's happening again. So consider this your warning, everyone else too, let's have some respect.

Whoa! A mod that speaks before he acts. I applaud you Thomas :clap: for having enough respect to make a post telling me i've gone too far. :respekt: Unlike another moderator who just deletes posts as they see fit.

I won't name names but if you'e read the whole thread you know who i'm talking about. Once again, Thanks Thomas and I will heed your warning. :thumbsup:

[TheRealEnth]

WOOOOOOOO GO YARIS!!!!

[Yoda]

a few bills might come in handy to make it manual... not the easiest thing to do but worth it if you really want it...:thumbup: and if you do :w00t::clap::thumbup::thumbsup::headbang:

Man do you kno how much work that will be lol. i might as well turn my SD to a LB. j/k but i helped a friend way back convert his prelude to a mani. It wasnt fun

[CpKi1g3]

Man do you kno how much work that will be lol. i might as well turn my SD to a LB. j/k but i helped a friend way back convert his prelude to a mani. It wasnt fun

yeah i know my friend is always doing swaps in hondas and both tranny and engine and it takes a few days with a few other friends and they all are frying there brains till 6 in the morning. but that why i would give him a lot of props:thumbsup: for doing such thing but what can i say i wanna do a engine and tranny swap on mine but i'm indecided to what i have 2 choices but i'm just planning right now...:iono:

[Yoda]

your honda our yaris

[vios7]

i drive sedan. first because its stylo and it also big. actually, in term of engine specs..both are same. im a single person (not married yet:biggrin:), its about your taste. what is ur purposed u choose sedan or Lb.. as long u happy with ur yaris/vios..thats no problem man..

peace! :burnrubber:

[MadMax]

Wow, big surprise, everyone has a different opinion on the hatch vs sedan (yeah, I know in Toyota lingo it is a "liftback;" but in normal automotive terminology it is a hatchback).

I've driven both, a sedan as a rental car and now I won a hatchback. They are both nice cars but obviously different. I got a hatchback as we have a Honda Odyssey and a Jeep Wrangler, so I didn't need something to haul the family or large items around. I needed a small commuter car that was fun to drive and got good gas mileage (to offset the 15 MPG I get with the Jeep). I had a VW Passat wagon with the VR6 and 5-speed that was really a driver's car, and I do miss the fun of driving it; but it was time for it to go.

I think the debate between the hatchback and sedan is ridiculous, it's comparing apples and oranges. Both are great cars that fit different needs, and either can be mod'd to look and drive really cool!

Cheers! M2

[RagnaCaT]

Well I'm going to say it once BOTH FTW!!!!!!

[drbilal]

I just made this thread to see the amount of sedan vs lb users, not for bashing each others cars :cool:

Lets keep it clean and to the point, both are great cars and have advantages/disadvantages depending on the owner.

[floydisrock]

I bet more people would buy the sedan,if they were closer in price.
:clap::iono:

[woof]

I have the stock sedan handles better than the LB. Even with a rear sway the sedan still handles better.

If I get tired of waiting for the Scion iQ I might spring for a sedan. The extra room means a lot to occasional passengers.

[vios7]

LB vs Sedan = gosh..no need to fight man. :biggrin:

[*MAD DOG*]

I think the numbers speak for themselves.

[vios7]

I think the numbers speak for themselves.

the number is not accurate.. i think most of the yw members drive LB.. if u do a poll at asia vios/yaris forum i think more go to sedan.

just my 2 cent :smile:

[PETERPOOP]

Let's just say I would have NEVER modded my yaris if i got a sedan.

[rningonfumes]

Camell, you have good points but I agree with Hickman's assumptions.

[TheRealEnth]

camelll is on fire!!!!

[jambo101]

I bought the sedan because with wife and 2 kids it was more practicle with trunk space plus the wife liked the looks,also the style of the HB didnt do it for me,kinda looks like a streched Smart car.For a small sporty HB as a second car for me i'm looking for a used Mini Cooper S.

[b_hickman11]

What basis do you have for this statement? Maybe the LB outsells the sedan 10 to 1 which would make this poll very accurate. I am just saying that this poll is a statistic that shows more people purchase the LB. You are assuming on age, not showing proof. Just to make a point I am gonna assume garm has money.:wink: I think we can all agree on that. He is probably in the 40's range in age and he drives a liftback. This is just one example and there are many more. Another thing is what do you consider young and what do you consider old?

I am in my 30's and drive a sedan and have modded it highly, so again your assumptions are wrong! How can a broke college student or a high school student that had to have their parents buy there car afford any modifications? Another thing, look at any import tuner or sport compact car magazine and most of the people on there that are features are usually in there late 20's through older age.

This poll is a great reference to general population of the people that buy this car no matter what age. I am not saying this is the most true and accurate information you can get, as a matter of fact I don't know where you would get that information from, but your assumptions that only young people and poor people are the only ones who purchase the yaris or any other economy car are simply not true and not backed up by any information or proof.

If you noticed in my post I used to word "usually" a lot. The word "usually" means a majority of the time. More than half. More than 50%. Get the drift? No where in my post did I say that ALL older people drive a Sedan or that ALL members of this forums were under a certain age, like you are implying that I said. Generally speaking, the older a person, the less likely they will be part of an online forums, no matter what the topic is. This could be for many reasons. The main one is that a lot(which means some but not ALL so don't get this confused again) of olded people don't even know how to turn a computer on much less how to get on the internet or even get on a forum.

Usually(remember this word from earlier?) cars that are in import tuner mags have thousand of dollars worth of mods, sometimes even over $100,000. Therefore it makes since that these people are older because they have been through college and have a good paying job in order to pay for their mods.

Also, I never said poor people buy the Yaris. College students that are on a budget are not going to go out and buy a Hummer or a Vette are they? No. They are usually(again remember this word?) going to buy an Eco car like the Yaris.

Disclamier: Here is the meaning of the word usually. When I use this word, refer to this section to learn the meaning. I am not responsible for YOU not understanding the meaning of the words in this post.

American Heritage Dictionary - Cite This Source - Share This u·su·al (yōō'zhōō-əl) Pronunciation Key
adj.
Commonly encountered, experienced, or observed: the usual summer heat.
Regularly or customarily used: ended the speech with the usual expressions of thanks.
In conformity with regular practice or procedure: Come at the usual time.

[b_hickman11]

Thats okay what age are you and what do you drive (modified or not)? Same with you b hickmann?

I am 26 and I have 2 Sedans.

[TheRealEnth]

Guys stop fighting seriously >.< this is ridiculous .. This thread shouldn't have started. Its tearing apart people like mccain and obama =D

[b_hickman11]

There is a better, more accurate poll up now.

[b_hickman11]

First of you state you use the word "usually" "a lot" in your post! I don't know what school you went to but 1 time does not consist of "a lot". That would be singular http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/singular. Do some research before you get your fingers working faster than your brain.

You still have not answered my questions. What is your age, have you modified your car. What do you consider old and what do you consider young? How does a person that has there parents buy them a car be able to afford mods? Or does this not pertain to this discussion for statistics or maybe you are a younger college kid that had his parents buy his car but has modified it!

How do you come up with this statement? "Generally speaking, the older a person, the less likely they will be part of an online forums, no matter what the topic is."

This is another baseless claim. http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/baseless

Along with this comment: "The main one is that a lot(which means some but not ALL so don't get this confused again) of olded people don't even know how to turn a computer on much less how to get on the internet or even get on a forum." Are you like talking 80 year old people?

No confusion here but I think you were confused as you should have put old instead of olded and please post a link to the dictionary of your choice on what the hell olded is! That last statement just shows how (for lack of a better word) unintelligent you really are.

One more to boot! You say you give the definition of usually but you actually gave the definition of the word usual which is an adjective, but the word usually is an adverb which means under normal conditions!

As you can see on the other more accurate thread, I'm a 26 year old broke school teacher with 2 Sedans. On my 07 I have added power locks and keyless entry. On my 08 I have added a free Gentex auto-dim mirror with Homelink. Some kids have their (not there like you posted) parents buy them a car. Then maybe they get a part time job to mod it. When I was in high school, I got my 1st job at 16 and I walked to work until I was able to buy my 1st car. It was a 96 Grand AM that I kept until it caught on fire my senior year of college. After graduating and got my 1st teaching job I bought a 05 Taco. I made a mistake and typed "olded" instead of "older!"

Go to a nursing home and ask them "what is an online forum?" I'm just going to take a wild guess but I would say that less than 5% would know what you were talking about. Computers, the internet and online forums have not been around forever. Therefore the older a person is, the less likely they will know what forums are. It's kind of like if you asked younger people what an 8-track is.

Ages: 16-22 High School to College aged
Ages: 23-30 Getting life started, 1st real job, marriage
Ages: 31-40 Kids, House
Ages: 41-Above Kids growing up, leaving house

I would say that "younger" for me would be the 16-22 age group.

[jambo101]

:laugh: We are not fighting we are debating statistics and definitions. :bellyroll:
OK the HB sells more than the sedan according to the poll and maybe even Toyotas sales figures.So Whats the problem? i must have missed something over these 8 pages of debate .some one want to tell me which post started the heat.

[YarisPR]

What? Let's check that OUT! LOL!:evil:

This sounds like a Puertorrican Yaris match!!!!! :biggrin::thumbup::evil:

Uf seria bueno dar un pase amistoso y de una vez reunirnos jajaja

saludos :thumbup:

[rningonfumes]

26... Sedan, Nurse/ College student

[PETERPOOP]

Why? Cause the extra 3-4 grand it costs would have eaten up your modding money? :bellyroll:


I could have easily afforded to put a s/c in a sedan yaris, but that's a waste of moeny. :clap:

[PETERPOOP]

Why did you take your comment about making more money than me, "you assure me". Can we say arrogant? As far as this quoted comment I would beg to differ and so would everyone else that has a supercharger. I think you are just being a dick now, just because I would not take some video for you. I am officially adding you to the douchebags of yarisworld list!


:laughabove:

I changed it because I didn't want you feeling stupid. too late though. you're the guy the with s/c sedan. LoL I could careless if you took a video of your sedan. Add me. :evil:

[PETERPOOP]

Not really, you're the guy defending the sedan in 8 pages of this thread. Get over it. The sedan is for chicks. lol

[*MAD DOG*]

Not really, you're the guy defending the sedan in 8 pages of this thread. Get over it. The sedan is for chicks. lol

.

[*MAD DOG*]

I don't like evo's either..... As for being a shit stirrer, I have never denied that I'm a shit stirrer. Just like i've never heard you deny being a douchebag. :bellyroll:

[TheRealEnth]

Guys chill the f**k out, Its just a dam opinion. To each his own. Do whatever you want. Pick your sedan or HB and do whatever mods you like to each. Don't fight over the internet.. this isn't Bnet

[*MAD DOG*]

^
blah blah blah blah. Ignore list here you come.

[b_hickman11]

Not really, you're the guy defending the sedan in 8 pages of this thread. Get over it. The sedan is for chicks. lol


To be honest with you the Yaris, no matter how many doors it has, is a chick car. And yes I have 2 of them, but it is what it is.

[PETERPOOP]

The yaris in general looks designed to be driven by chicks and senior citizens.

[Yoda]

Wat lol no its not. the car is not designed for girls but for fuel economy. who choose to drive it the most is up to the general population. it was not made for any1 gender or age group but only for the soul purpose fuel ec and cost.
I find that this thread has gone way beyond useful and its dividing us. Just like black and white people we are...People. same here we are yaris owners! Lets not get petty with it. Poop, Mad Dog and camelll chill out man. I kno you feel strongly about your view but lets not attack other members or belittle there opinions.
It was all fun and games in the begining but now it going to far.
::Logs off in shame::

[PETERPOOP]

Why'd you refer to me as "Poop" and not Peter@?!!? JERK!! ;)

[Yoda]

Why'd you refer to me as "Poop" and not Peter@?!!? JERK!! ;)

LOL woops was lazy ;)

[drbilal]

Why'd you refer to me as "Poop" and not Peter@?!!? JERK!! ;)

LOL. Classic.

[RagnaCaT]

This sounds like a Puertorrican Yaris match!!!!! :biggrin::thumbup::evil:

Uf seria bueno dar un pase amistoso y de una vez reunirnos jajaja

saludos :thumbup:

:w00t: es para las :drinking:

[Ratboy]

This is so funny. Everyone sounds like children in here. It seems like when ever anyone states their opinion, somebody has to down them. The Yaris is the slowest car I have ever owned...who cares! It is also the cheapest. I love the gas mileage, however, and thought the sedan would be the better of the two for my lifestyle. I have a manual transmission. I wonder how many people in here can drive a maunual? Hey, maybe we can start a arguement about that!!! :barf:

[RagnaCaT]

This is so funny. Everyone sounds like children in here. It seems like when ever anyone states their opinion, somebody has to down them. The Yaris is the slowest car I have ever owned...who cares! It is also the cheapest. I love the gas mileage, however, and thought the sedan would be the better of the two for my lifestyle. I have a manual transmission. I wonder how many people in here can drive a maunual? Hey, maybe we can start a arguement about that!!! :barf:

Hey to keep the flames lit we can make a poll A/T vs M/T i still got both anyway so BOTH FTW!

[id3379]

sedan ftw

[Jem_hadar]

5door Hatchback here! <33333


Wow, big surprise, everyone has a different opinion on the hatch vs sedan (yeah, I know in Toyota lingo it is a "liftback;" but in normal automotive terminology it is a hatchback).
And we call it the Yaris Hatchback (as is proper) here in Canada. :wink:

[Jem_hadar]

pfff 4dr ftw.
5dr ftw. :wink::wink:

hows your tach.. lol.. :)
Great. Canada's always had them in the Yaris Hatchback. :biggrin::biggrin:

check the manual specs for the 5dr vs the 4dr
o wait does the 5dr only come in Auto:wink:

PS. Where's the tach on the LB?
Another reason i go the sedan.
Thank god in Canada they dont! Love my 5dr manual hatchback with a tach! :cool::smile:

[*MAD DOG*]

Bump for all those who ain't seen this thread.

[CtrlAltDefeat]

Woof gotta hate flame wars...:barf:
Let me voice my opinion before the thread gets locked...
I own a LB 3 door MT, I'm 33, work full time, and go to college.
I bought the LB because I have always loved hot hatches. After I wrecked my Mitsu Mirage (an anemic auto 4 door sedan), I was determined to get a manual hatchback. I did some research and found a website that would help you find a car by using different criteria. (fuel efficiency and reliability were my top picks) It recommended the LB Yaris and showed a profile picture of it. One look and I was hooked! :wub: It is so unique looking! Someone on this thread said the sedan looked like a little Camry, but that's a negative for me. Camrys are everywhere, and generic sedan shapes are just not appealing to me. After the site suggested the Yaris LB, I researched it and found YW and other sites that showed what a tuner following it had in Japan and other countries. I figure the good gas mileage would be great for now when I'm a poor college student, and later when I get a job as a systems analyst, I'll mod the shit outta it! :biggrin: (I might get something else for a DD, and use my Yaris as a toy) Whatever the case may be, I love the LB and would never buy a sedan. Just IMHO...

[Vinsanity]

LB is the Shiet. Find parking anywhere. lol, i also like the sedans tho

[Deltasix]

I drive a LB. Partly because I like the look better, partly because I don't really use the back seat, but mostly because I didn't fit comfortably in the 2007 (year I bought by car) sedan. I'm 6'5" tall, and there simply wasn't enough room in the '07 sedan. The '09 seems to have more front legroom.

[roxy1]

i never saw the point of the sedan. the way many of them are packaged, they are coming way to close to the corolla price. there is no argument about "uniqeness" w/ the sedan, and there is no real mileage argument to be had vs a corolla. i guess if you really need a trunk and want to spend under $15k.

the lb, on the other hand, does have a unique look and the benefits of a hatch. i would venture to say that if toyota had offered the 4 dr hatch from the get go, there are a fair number of sedan drivers that would have gone that way.

[MadMax]

Many countries got the 5-ddor LB before the States, and many never got the sedan. I guess Toyota was doing what they thought the American market wanted. Too bad that appears to have been the wrong decision up until 2009...

Cheers! M2

[voodoo22]

i never saw the point of the sedan. the way many of them are packaged, they are coming way to close to the corolla price. there is no argument about "uniqeness" w/ the sedan, and there is no real mileage argument to be had vs a corolla. i guess if you really need a trunk and want to spend under $15k.

the lb, on the other hand, does have a unique look and the benefits of a hatch. i would venture to say that if toyota had offered the 4 dr hatch from the get go, there are a fair number of sedan drivers that would have gone that way.

When we bought our Yaris we were going to get a liftback. Living in Canada we had the choice of all Yaris varieties. For us, the difference in ride quality and driver position was so much better in the sedan (after a few long test drives) that our mind was completely changed. We both prefer the looks of the LB to the sedan, but neither of us was willing to live with what we feel is its inferior hwy ride when comparing with the already not so great hwy driving sedan. The new Corolla wasn't out yet when we purchased our Yaris, but we probably would have still stuck with the Yaris as we both prefer smaller cars and the old version of the Corolla available at the time was less roomy and uncomfortable for me to fit in.

[roxy1]

[QUOTE=voodoo22;269144]driver position was so much better in the sedan QUOTE]


thats a valid point. the driving position in the hatchback was what ultimately made me trade for the 09 corolla. i could just never get a comfortable position. i got the 09 corolla for $14900 after cash back, so it was a no brainer vs the yaris sedan.

im betting the next gen yaris will have a telescoping steering wheel and the center gauges will be history:clap:

[wiirenet]

I didn't even consider the sedan, and have only learned about it and its looks from this forum. To me it just looks like every sedan out there. The reason I chose the hatchback was for its look.. its my first purchased car and I wanted something different- I am so happy I got it, it looks different sitting there in a parking lot in a sea of big boring cars. If I ever needed a sedan, I prob wouldnt go for the yaris though.. prob something more expensive.

But right now, I don't transport anyone other then myself so I love the hatchback.

The glove boxes everyone mentions.. well, the top one in front of the passenger seat is empty! I don't know what to put in there, and when I put some CD cases in there, it wouldn't even close... wish they made it a tiny bit deeper to be more practical. I love the one in front of the driver's seat though- keep my GPS and garage door opener out of site but right at my finger tips!

[texkid]

I owned a Ford Escort wagon and so I fell in love with hatchbacks and didn't care as much for sedans. I really wanted a Matrix but it was out of my means and so settled for the Yaris LB. With a rear hatch, it just seems to have better access and so not have to bend down to get the goods.

[tomato]

I really wanted a Matrix but it was out of my means and so settled for the Yaris LB.

I know exactly what you mean. The Matrix is an impressive ride.

[41magmag41]

Sedan all the way that is until they introduced the 4 door hatchback this year. If the 4 door hatchback had been available I would have gotten one but enjoy my sedan with its trunk and other goodies.

[*MAD DOG*]

Yaris LB/HB FTW!

[CtrlAltDefeat]

wow it didn't get locked :clap:

[voodoo22]

I rented a hatch the other day for a work road trip. It was a good refresher for me in the differences between the two vehicles. I had forgotten how the shorter wheelbase on the hatch makes it more responsive feeling and more fun to drive, but I had also forgotten just how much worse the wind noise and stability of the car is on the hwy. I also had forgotten how the driving position in the hatch gives me a leg cramp and makes it harder for me to see the dials which I am looking more down on.

I still like the looks and feel of the hatch more for pure fun, but the sedan is much more comfortable and better handling for me on the hwy. If we needed a car just for city driving, the hatch would win hands down, but since we do mostly long hwy trips the sedan is still the better choice for us. Too bad, because we both still really like the looks and low speed handling of the hatch a lot more.

[supmet]

lol @ this thread. Lets call each other names because we drive cars that are 5% different.

Grow up. If you think you're better than anyone because you drive a LB instead of a sedan, or vice versa, let me find a short pier for you to take your superior automobile for a long drive on.

FWIW - a "chick" car where I live is an H2. Get your woman on.

[SilverBack]

FWIW - a "chick" car where I live is an H2. Get your woman on.

Orange County soccer moms? LOL

[Yaris Hilton]

I actually started out mostly interested in a LB, but when I looked at them side by side, I realized that the sedan was far more practical for carrying things like guitars and amps, rifles and shooting gear. I wasn't as worried about stuff being stolen out of the car or stuff hitting me from behind in a crash, and it's very practical for 4 adults to ride in with comfortable entry and exit. (The Yaris Sedan really isn't a very small car.) I still think the 3 door LB is cute as a button! I wish the sedan had the extra glove box in front of the driver, too! I also prefer the color choices available for the LB, specifically Absolute Red and whatever they call that bright yellow. But I like the Barcelona Red I've got on my sedan.

[Klinton]

i like my sedan

[yaristotle]

The yaris sedan look like a damn Camry, while the liftback has a totally unique look

[Yaris Hilton]

I don't see anything wrong with the Camry's looks. But the Yaris sedan doesn't look that much like it anyway, just a family resemblance. I think it looks great.

[Thai_Dang]

Lol I could've gotten a way better and cheaper car if I got a sedan (yaris or not). Chose liftback because its special, different and suits me. More features doesn't always equal better, its better because it suits my personality and needs.

[Herbicidal]

Needed the 4 doors of the sedan as I regulary pick up my kids after school. I didn't want to deal with only 2 doors. No 4 door liftback was available in 2008. Even if it was, I still would have bought the sedan as I like having the trunk space. :thumbsup:

['LilRedYaris]

Sedan. Why? Possible future applications (i.e. family car), more room for people / cargo, 4 doors, and a fairly large trunk. I also love the refined look of the sedan compared to the sorta bubbly looks of the hatchbacks.

I do wish the sedan came with the extra gloveboxes though... I thought that was an awesome feature on the LB models.

[brg88tx]

i like the design of the upper grill on the 07-08 yaris sedan much better than the 09 and newer. wonder why they changed it.

['LilRedYaris]

Probably to look more like the newer Corollas. I dunno why they did that though, being that they're both unique & different cars. I like the look of the older grille too. Should've kept them that way IMO.

[Yaris Hilton]

They just had to change something to make it look "new and different." The grilles are swappable. Somebody on the board has done it, both ways. Believe it or not, some prefer the new style grille with the little squares in it to the old louvered style.

[samuelpump]

I used to have a 2007 Black Sedan with a 5 Speed MT. I owned that car for 3 years and up until it was totaled at 70mph i hated the LB. I used to think it was ugly and too small. 2 weeks after my accident I found a 2009 Blue LB and now i would never go back. a few visual mods and a stereo install and its way better looking than the sedan ever was.

[WorldTraveler]

As a sedan owner, I'd be curious how the breakdown shakes out too. Might give some insight into what style tends to attract more enthusiasts.