harness bar help

[turboyaris]

Hey guys, I was looking into building you guys a harness bar for both the sedan and liftback. I need a little help though, as I no longer have a Yaris of my own. I need some pictures of the seat belt bolt areas, both the upper and lower where they attach to car. Also, I need the measurement from the upper seat belt bolts. I need the measurement from pillar to pillar. Also too if you guys could give me an idea of how far back behind the upper seatbelt bolt that your seats go. That way I can design the harness bar with enough room so that you can sit in a comfortable position for you. Thanks for the help guys. Also, If I could find someone in the South Jersey/ philly area so I can mock one of these up, that would be very helpful.

[Never Enough]

That would be great! Keep everyone updated.

[turboyaris]

well... i'm still waiting for someone to give me measurements... I can have these ready by the end of next week, but I need to get these measurements, and then I need to find someone with a yaris in my area, so I can make sure everything bolts up. These would be made out of chromoly and they would be 1 1/2" tubing to allow for the many camcorder mounts to work with the harness bar. I may also eventually make my own camcorder mounts if there is a demand for them.
I also need to know if there is a difference in width of the sedan and liftback, hopefully there is not, so that the product will work universally on both.

[Benggolf2]

Turboyaris, wouldn't it be simplier if you visited a Toyota dealer nearby instead so you can accurately take the necessary measurements? :wink:
Just a suggestion, no pun intended. :smile:

[cali yaris]

I'm working on it -- you asked me yesterday!

[turboyaris]

haha i tried that, i went to the same one that I bought mine from and they were too busy to bother I suppose, anyways for right now I'm designing the brackets and I need to know the bolt size for the upper and lower seat belt bolts... I couldn't quite figure that out.

[ddongbap]

Would you really trust anyone else's measurement, other than Garms?

[cali yaris]

jkuchta gives good measurements :biggrin:

[Never Enough]

Good luck guys!

[TEHxFALLEN V1.2]

I really need a harness bar!!!!! AHHHHHHH!!

[jkuchta]

I'll try and get something together tomorrow night after work for you:wink:

[turboyaris]

thanks man, the big thing I need right now, is the size of the bolts for the seatbelts, that way I can have the flanges made.... the harness bar itself will need to be made with a car in front of me, just in case haha, plus then like everyone said, I will have my own measurements which are all the measurements I need.

[cali yaris]

K, I will pull a bolt and go match it for you today... M-something, LOL

[jkuchta]

I wanna say M10x1.5....I'll pull one tonight.

[dngz]

awesome! i'm 100% interested in getting one for my sedan!

[jkuchta]

Can't find my bolt gauge, but the head size on all of the seatbelt bolts is 14mm. I think that equates to a M10 size bolt, though I can't say for sure.

[whooppee777]

i wouldnt mind one of these

[turboyaris]

anyone get a chance to pull out those two seat belt bolts and measure them? apparently yaris owners in jersey are lame... no one wants to help me out with this haha :P

[cali yaris]

Head size is 14mm, I'm off to Lowe's to confirm M10 status.

Here's a pic of the bolt with the spacer that comes with it:

[turboyaris]

dont go to lowes... i just need that spacers diameter, I'm basically trying to do this, i just need to make sure the hole in the bracket will go around that bolts spacer
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y221/reebok182/harnessbracket.jpg

and a simlar bracket for the bottom, thats the only real measurement I need before actually building the harness bars

[cali yaris]

wtf? LOL

the big thing I need right now, is the size of the bolts for the seatbelts,

anyways.... it's an M12 1.25 -- the spacer is 3/4" in diameter and 1 7/16" long.

[turboyaris]

haha yea the need for the size of the bolt was because i didn't know about the spacer in there... but then i saw it.. dont worry i'll give u a sweet discount for your troubles... does the bottom have the same spacer?

[cali yaris]

No it doesn't, and on my car, the bottom bolt is replaced with the eye-bolt for the harnesses.

The back face of my seat is 2" to the rear of the center of the upper bolt, by the way - although this will obviously vary from driver to driver.

[turboyaris]

ok so top bracket is done... and cali im guessing the bottom is just a 12mm bolt like the top then?

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y221/reebok182/yaris%20parts/harnessbarbracket1.jpg

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y221/reebok182/yaris%20parts/harnessbarbracket2.jpg

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y221/reebok182/yaris%20parts/harnessbarbracket3.jpg

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y221/reebok182/yaris%20parts/harnessbarbracket4.jpg

[TheRealEnth]

this is nice, harness bar will definitely appeal to many people.

[bdc87]

Good to see this idea come to life. Finished product should be nice!

[TEHxFALLEN V1.2]

Count me in as your first customer, because I'm VERY interested! :thumbsup:

[turboyaris]

I was thinking of getting together a group buy, after the first product is complete, that way I can get a decent discount on powdercoating, as well as saving money on the shipping of materials to me... of course after the first one is built, so i can have some pictures for you guys

[turboyaris]

second bracket
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y221/reebok182/yaris%20parts/harnessbarbracket5.jpg

[nemesisz]

Subscribed for interest.

[whooppee777]

could u build a roll cage?

[mikenacarato]

subscribed...me wants a harness bar... :)

will they be around for a while or is this a limited group buy sort of deal?

[TheRealEnth]

hes makin one... if we like it... he will do a group buy and see where that kicks off.

[turboyaris]

Yes i can build a roll cage...
these will be around for a while... but after the initial interest has died I might make you wait a week, since I dont want to have a large overhead of harness bars lying around

[mikenacarato]

well as long as i can get it later its cool, and if you can build a roll cage that will allow you to keep your interior that would be super sick

[turboyaris]

yea i know that a roll cage looks cool but for you liftback owners it'd be very difficult to make it possible to use your back seats, not to mention the overall cost of a roll cage... remember you have to get it painted or powdercoated... so someone would really need to have a need for a roll cage if they were going to... but hey if someone wants to pay the price.... i'll make one

[mikenacarato]

well i could have one made here locally but if you were going to make bolt in or weld in kits and be able to retain the interior i would give you the sale. :)

bolt in is not my preferred style cage so i would weld in the bold in if i had too.

[turboyaris]

hahaha here is is... well an idea for you at least... i'm pretty bored so once i got the brackets done, i just went and did it all hahahahahah
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y221/reebok182/harnesscarcomplete2.jpg

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y221/reebok182/harnesscarcomplete.jpg

[turboyaris]

i just realized i didnt put in guides for the seat belt harnesses so they dont slip all over the place, they will be there in the final product, just a simple piece of 1/4 round stock bent so that ur harness are sure to stay behind your seats

[TheRealEnth]

well, i cant afford a rollcage but.. If i could, like everyone else probaly the same would say... we wouldn't mind losing our rear seats for it.

[cali yaris]

I can't wait to use your harness bar with my harnesses.

I'll probably lose the back seat and put in my X-brace to go with it -- yeah!!

http://www.microimageonline.com/images/products/suspension/yaris-crossbar-1.jpg

[mikenacarato]

that harness bar looks great! if i ever get seats and harnesses ill pick one of these up for sure!

and is that a miracle x bar? i though they only made those for hondas.

[cali yaris]

The Rear Crossbrace is now posted in my store (sorry for off-topic, but I think they would go together REALLY nice)

[whooppee777]

yea i know that a roll cage looks cool but for you liftback owners it'd be very difficult to make it possible to use your back seats, not to mention the overall cost of a roll cage... remember you have to get it painted or powdercoated... so someone would really need to have a need for a roll cage if they were going to... but hey if someone wants to pay the price.... i'll make one

i would pay the price by any means necessary......after i pay cali yaris

[cali yaris]

after you pay me, right? :biggrin:

[whooppee777]

(edited previous post) ofcourse. that supercharger is all i think about

[TEHxFALLEN V1.2]

So what do you think your asking price range will be?

I need to know now, so I can race beaters for pinkslips, sell those for cash, and save up just for you!

[turboyaris]

i'm still waiting on final pricing for the brackets I need, but powdercoated they should be in the $250 range

[TheRealEnth]

nice =D

[turboyaris]

maybe cheaper :evil: whooo knowssssssss

I may offer a slightly cheaper model made of standard DOM instead of Chromolly, I will have to way the cost effectiveness of it

[turboyaris]

I'm still looking for a car to use to design these harness bars, come on, there has to be someone near me...

[TEHxFALLEN V1.2]

If you want to fly out here to test it out on my car, then go right on ahead!

[turboyaris]

hmmm cali would be nice to visit... not sure I have the time or money for that though, I'll be in Oklahoma City for a week next week, so if anyone is there in OK city, I'd be interested in at least checking out your car and doing my own measurements and what not.

[ROCKLAND TOYOTA]

I'm still looking for a car to use to design these harness bars, come on, there has to be someone near me...
your in south jersey, why not hit up jerkratt or kou???

[kou]

how far down south are you.

[turboyaris]

vineland NJ where are you at?

[whooppee777]

i would be willing to come to u. if a discount were in the deal. 3 hour drive is nothing to me. when did u move to NJ? didnt u move down south after u went turbo in the sedan and then getting hit by a drunk driver?

[ROCKLAND TOYOTA]

i would be willing to come to u. if a discount were in the deal
if i was interested this would have been a done deal by now.....

[kou]

north jersey.couple of hours away.

[cali yaris]

Do it for YarisWorld - lord knows I have.

[turboyaris]

haha well its a long story I grew up here, then while i was turbo'd I lived in philadelphia, and while on vacation in atlanta I was hit by the drunk driver. then I moved down to nc where i disappeared for about a year from here, and now I'm back.

Rockland... what could I interest you with?

and whooppee of course i'd hook you up with a sweet deal if you made the 3 hour trip... plus we could discuss your roll cage options hahahahaha

[whooppee777]

haha well its a long story I grew up here, then while i was turbo'd I lived in philadelphia, and while on vacation in atlanta I was hit by the drunk driver. then I moved down to nc where i disappeared for about a year from here, and now I'm back.

Rockland... what could I interest you with?

and whooppee of course i'd hook you up with a sweet deal if you made the 3 hour trip... plus we could discuss your roll cage options hahahahaha

lets do it name the date. sundays would be perfect for me its the only day i dont work at the moment

[whooppee777]

its official december 7th im taking a trip to new jersey to see about getting the harness bar fitted and discuss a roll cage

[cali yaris]

woot! :clap:

[TEHxFALLEN V1.2]

Damn it! GO NOW!! My new seat is coming tomorrow.. hopefully (:

[bdc87]

its official december 7th im taking a trip to new jersey to see about getting the harness bar fitted and discuss a roll cage

Thats my B-Day!

[turboyaris]

We can't do it any sooner, I gotta go on vacation haha, its the soonest we could get together.

[TEHxFALLEN V1.2]

I'm patiently waiting! (:

*taps fingers on desk*

[cali yaris]

5 more days... then however long it takes him to make a bunch of them.

[TEHxFALLEN V1.2]

I'll keep this thread alive for him then LOL

[cali yaris]

^ how generous LOL

[TEHxFALLEN V1.2]

Harness bar, oh harness bar, oh where are you??

*whistles*

[turboyaris]

i'm still waiting on the brackets... I was told Friday, so we will be cutting it close haha, worst case scenerio is I will have to drive to them if they havent shipped.

oh and p.s. I plan on making more then just harness bars.... hahahahahhahaa

[TEHxFALLEN V1.2]

Harness bars is all I live for right now LOL

[TEHxFALLEN V1.2]

And if you're planning to make quiet performance mufflers, count me in as well!

[turboyaris]

thats until you see what else I have up my sleeves

[TEHxFALLEN V1.2]

Greasy elbows?? :laugh:

[turboyaris]

hahaha no way my elbows are always kept clean haha.. im talking parts mannnnnn

[TEHxFALLEN V1.2]

Well, I heard you speak of rollcages and such.. so are you working on chassis stiffening? If so, want to be my sponsor?? Please?!!!

[turboyaris]

some chassis stiffening... but i'd say more suspension work, badass suspension work!!!

[TEHxFALLEN V1.2]

Coilovers!! Woot!!!!!!!!!!

[turboyaris]

haha nah... they already make them and all I would do is give valving specs and spring rates to the coilover company anyways, which i might consider eventually. , i'm talking stuff nobody makes... something for the rear suspension, that will be more beneficial than a rear sway bar :) and some helpful front suspension components

as far as sponsorship... its possible, you can pm me with your car mods, and what you do with your car i.e. race, show, and where you are located and I might consider it... i need a test dummy for some of my parts

[whooppee777]

i need a test dummy for some of my parts

thats where i come in. when and where this sunday r we meeting?

[ROCKLAND TOYOTA]

haha nah... they already make them and all I would do is give valving specs and spring rates to the coilover company anyways, which i might consider eventually. , i'm talking stuff nobody makes... something for the rear suspension, that will be more beneficial than a rear sway bar :) and some helpful front suspension components

as far as sponsorship... its possible, you can pm me with your car mods, and what you do with your car i.e. race, show, and where you are located and I might consider it... i need a test dummy for some of my parts
what else are we talking about? i already have the under bracing and suspension covered what else do you have?

[whooppee777]

i'd like to see about having a roll cage done for my car. i want to got auto-x events and have people shit their pants when they see my car.

supercharger, light weight wheels, sticky tires. strong chasis and suspension setup f*ck yea. i'm lookn to mess up some wrx's

[turboyaris]

i already have the under bracing and suspension covered what else do you have?


thats only becuase you are thinking about currently offered products.... I'm talking harness bars, cross braces, solid or urethane (possibly) torsion bar bushings, adjustable sway bar end links.... and two super secret products that will blow your mind when they hit the market


:evil:

[TEHxFALLEN V1.2]

thats only becuase you are thinking about currently offered products.... I'm talking harness bars, cross braces, solid or urethane (possibly) torsion bar bushings, adjustable sway bar end links.... and two super secret products that will blow your mind when they hit the market


:evil:

Two super secret products that will blow my mind... Can you just tell us now, the suspense is killing me!

[whooppee777]

its going to be a good december

[jkuchta]

Can't wait to see what you come up with for the rear.

The BTCC hondas had their rear beam replaced with a pretty neat looking fabricated tubing setup that had a slip/flexable joint in the middle, such that, while using the stock beam attachment points, they basically had a type of independent rear end. I'd be all over one for the yaris.

[ROCKLAND TOYOTA]

thats only becuase you are thinking about currently offered products.... I'm talking harness bars, cross braces, solid or urethane (possibly) torsion bar bushings, adjustable sway bar end links.... and two super secret products that will blow your mind when they hit the market


:evil:

yeah, i guess i just don't get it. that and the fact that im slowly starting to lose interest in this car........

[whooppee777]

thats because ur tired of getting knocked off by vdubs on the new jersey turnpike. maybe if u auto crossed ur car u would find u love the car again

[ROCKLAND TOYOTA]

thats because ur tired of getting knocked off by vdubs on the new jersey turnpike. maybe if u auto crossed ur car u would find u love the car again

funny i guess except those vdubs didn't own me the ECU did......

[cali yaris]

yeah, i guess i just don't get it.

umm... no comment? :laugh:

[whooppee777]

funny i guess except those vdubs didn't own me the ECU did......

then get a greddy emanage ultimate and fix that shit

[ROCKLAND TOYOTA]

umm... no comment? :laugh: good call.....

[ROCKLAND TOYOTA]

then get a greddy emanage ultimate and fix that shit


:laugh: i like your optimism BUT in my eyes the car isn't worth it in its current state.....

[nemesisz]

I'm talking harness bars, cross braces, solid or urethane (possibly) torsion bar bushings, adjustable sway bar end links....


I think you are talking my language. Some solid aluminum torsion bar bushings would be nice. A nice cross brace like Flying Miata (http://www.flyinmiata.com/index.php?dept=15) makes would be nice too.

Overall thses goodies if produced will make for great track/autox performance. I am patiently waiting for what the future brings.

[turboyaris]

bad news guys... the brackets weren't finished yet, so i have to postpone sunday... lousy shop can't make me a few brackets in time... anyways, I think im just going to go to enterprise as soon as they come in and rent a yaris that way i can just bang it out and dont have to rely on someone else letting me borrow their car.

[TEHxFALLEN V1.2]

I'm going to cry ):

[ROCKLAND TOYOTA]

bad news guys... the brackets weren't finished yet, so i have to postpone sunday... lousy shop can't make me a few brackets in time... anyways, I think im just going to go to enterprise as soon as they come in and rent a yaris that way i can just bang it out and dont have to rely on someone else letting me borrow their car.
any news to report???

[cali yaris]

they postponed it to last Thursday, but they didn't meet then. I think nothin' new to say.

[turboyaris]

im in sc on some other business, when I return home, Im going to just rent a yaris from the dealership. So that I don't have to coordinate schedules with anyone else. Sorry for the wait guys

[blacksandiegovitz]

im in sc on some other business, when I return home, Im going to just rent a yaris from the dealership. So that I don't have to coordinate schedules with anyone else. Sorry for the wait guys

Thats cool man , I don't mind waiting , just hope you do produce a few harness bar to sell to Yw members. I'll be buying one for sure.

[cali yaris]

im in sc on some other business, when I return home, Im going to just rent a yaris from the dealership. So that I don't have to coordinate schedules with anyone else. Sorry for the wait guys

Ok, so.... this was a month ago. -- is this going to happen? ...it's ok if not, but I think a few people want to know if this project is alive or dead.

[lilredrocket]

Bump... What ever happened to this guy?