Official Richard Holdener who wants to buy an Long Tube Header list

[bdc87]

$550 Sign up for those who want, Need 10. System will be mild steel, header will come with custom mid pipe.
Dyno: Stock, Empty, Header
http://www.yarisworld.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=12470&stc=1&d=1226990984
Prototype:
http://www.yarisworld.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=12481&stc=1&d=1227026898
Refer to link for more info:http://www.yarisworld.com/forums/showthread.php?t=10833

1.bdc87(Febuary)
2.blacksandiegovitz
3.mikenacarato (January)
4.PETERPOOP (Shipping $?)
5.anonymous user (January)
6.WolfWings (January)
7.PHXDEMON (Shipping $?)
8.thepoche

[pinoypizzaboy]

whos making the midpipe?

[blacksandiegovitz]

Add me too the list man , this header is gonna be frekin' sweet ! It will come with a Mid-pipe too , so its close in price to a dc header and nitto mid-pipe, but with some real power gains .

[CASTREX]

I hope you guys are not shooting your self in the foot...:frown:

I see this long tube header as a STAGE 2 coming AFTER the Intake manifold.

I mean, must of the folks on the official list for the manifold are making compromises to be able to get the Intake.

I agree this header looks amazing, but it will be really hard for some of the people getting the manifold to add $500+ extra on top of the $700 for the Mani.
Remember that a lot of Yaris owners are running on a budget this days. Maybe I'm wrong but is my opinion.

If you get Manifold and Header out at the same time you will be limiting some how the qty of people that will be able to jump into this.

In the other hand if you concentrate in one item (Manifold), get it out and then 6-8 weeks later you have the Header out, then must of the people who bought the Intake will be buying the header.

You guys should be focusing in one major part at the time in order to make this happen and make the parts successful.
I know is great to see all the research that Richard is doing... Intake Mani, Header, Turbo.... and it makes us want to jump and grab all of them.

Just my 2 cents

[mikenacarato]

im in the buy for the manifold and i have to say i really would like to be in on this but i cant because of the 800 ill be shelling out for the manifold. cant we wait a bit before this group buy?

[blacksandiegovitz]

I hope you guys are not shooting your self in the foot...:frown:

I see this long tube header as a STAGE 2 coming AFTER the Intake manifold.

I mean, must of the folks on the official list for the manifold are making compromises to be able to get the Intake.

I agree this header looks amazing, but it will be really hard for some of the people getting the manifold to add $500+ extra on top of the $700 for the Mani.
Remember that a lot of Yaris owners are running on a budget this days. Maybe I'm wrong but is my opinion.

If you get Manifold and Header out at the same time you will be limiting some how the qty of people that will be able to jump into this.

In the other hand if you concentrate in one item (Manifold), get it out and then 6-8 weeks later you have the Header out, then must of the people who bought the Intake will be buying the header.

Just my 2 cents


^^Good point man . I didn't see on a date for the longtube header to go on sale ???

[CASTREX]

im in the buy for the manifold and i have to say i really would like to be in on this but i cant because of the 800 ill be shelling out for the manifold. cant we wait a bit before this group buy?

^^^
That's what I meant! :biggrin:

[CASTREX]

^^Good point man . I didn't see on a date for the longtube header to go on sale ???

There are no dates... same as with the Intake manifold and other parts been developed by Richard. It depends on the demand (and how long it will take every body to decided what they want exactly) and Richard's testing and schedule.

[richardholdener]

I understand the concern-but it was too tempting to make the extra horsepower. The headers will be available after the intake.

There are no dates... same as with the Intake manifold and other parts been developed by Richard. It depends on the demand (and how long it will take every body to decided what they want exactly) and Richard's testing and schedule.

[pinoypizzaboy]

the reason why my name is not on that list yet is because i know richard is secretly building that low buck turbo kit. i dont wanna waste money changing setups.but if the turbos not available oh well. N/A all the way

[bdc87]

As for those with the Mani I understand the wait between the two and I'm cool with that, I have actually taken my name off of the manifold list because of the long tube, it gives the torque I'm looking for and I rather do a supercharger then the turbo.

There is no time table set but we do need 10 people for this to even be made so I might of started the list prematurely but non less it gathers those who are interested. Maybe January will fill the 10 but, as long as it get enough interest to be made thats all that counts.

[mikenacarato]

well i can have my name down in januray or febuary for sure.

[RacerFreakXXX]

I will definitely have the money for one if my insurance covers me for my hospital visit for when i rolled my 240 over. I'm assuming it may take a month or so for this thing to go through and I should know in a month. So january for me too.

[kou]

if it is $550 for the header and mid pipe put me on the list.

[ROCKLAND TOYOTA]

AFTER initial production run how readily available will this be? im broke now but like others on here come spring i have money to spend. will i be able to pick this up around that time is my question....

[richardholdener]

If we get enough interest we will build the necessary fixtures for production on the header-the mid pipe is pretty simple. We need to do production runs of at least 10 to make it worthwhile. If we get 10 people, then we can make more han 10 and have extra for sale at a later date-or if we get enough people down the line, we can do another run.

AFTER initial production run how readily available will this be? im brike now but like others on here come spring i have money to spend. will i be able to pick this up around that time is my question....

[ROCKLAND TOYOTA]

If we get enough interest we will build the necessary fixtures for production on the header-the mid pipe is pretty simple. We need to do production runs of at least 10 to make it worthwhile. If we get 10 people, then we can make more han 10 and have extra for sale at a later date-or if we get enough people down the line, we can do another run.

thank you......

[anonymous user]

When would payment be expected if I were to sign up on this list?

[richardholdener]

Payment will not be required until systems are ready to ship. I will never take deposits-I am putting my trust in the community that they will honor their commitments omve the products are ready.

When would payment be expected if I were to sign up on this list?

[PETERPOOP]

Put me down on that list.

no turbo kits seem to be coming out anytime soon. the 2500$ turbo kit guy isn't updating enough for my liking. i'll wait for others to try his kit and get dyno #s before i purchase it. i trust your quality/products more so than his, so i'm not afraid to be part of the first to buy your products.

seems i'll have enough fun with your manifold and header for awhile.



*however shipping to hawaii might change my mind when i find out how much it is.

[jkuchta]

I'll take one if it's in stainless.

[arunto]

$550 shipped??

[PETERPOOP]

hah you wish. heck I WISH actually. but yah, you better put next to my name on that list that it all depends on how much shipping will be for hawaii.

[anonymous user]

Richard, PM sent.

[richardholdener]

Got it and answered.

Richard, PM sent.

[WolfWings]

I'm in this one like Flynn, as long as it can wait until January like several other people have marked beside their names.

Also, if I'm understanding this correctly the header will come with a custom mid-pipe, but that leaves the question of where does the mid-pipe end? And in my case I'd be planning to get a custom SuperTrapp muffler center-mounted with a down-turn tip so it's semi-stealthed, would I be better off without the mid-pipe and just getting the exhaust custom crafted behind the header?

Or would a tuneable SuperTrapp be unlikely to realize any benefits in combination with this exhaust header? Was thinking being able to run a louder but much less restrictive exhaust at the track, but a vastly more quiet and restrictive setting for daily driving.

[richardholdener]

The mid pipe for the long tube will attach to the factory (or after market) axle back section. Anything custom will have to be done by you.

I'm in this one like Flynn, as long as it can wait until January like several other people have marked beside their names.

Also, if I'm understanding this correctly the header will come with a custom mid-pipe, but that leaves the question of where does the mid-pipe end? And in my case I'd be planning to get a custom SuperTrapp muffler center-mounted with a down-turn tip so it's semi-stealthed, would I be better off without the mid-pipe and just getting the exhaust custom crafted behind the header?

Or would a tuneable SuperTrapp be unlikely to realize any benefits in combination with this exhaust header? Was thinking being able to run a louder but much less restrictive exhaust at the track, but a vastly more quiet and restrictive setting for daily driving.

[WolfWings]

The mid pipe for the long tube will attach to the factory (or after market) axle back section. Anything custom will have to be done by you.

That's fine, wanted to ask just because I'm paranoid.

Would there be any benefit in going with a SuperTrapp-style muffler (uses a series of stacked plates at the end to allow very fine-grained tuning of the restrictiveness of the exhaust, takes about 10 minutes to change the number of plates from about 4-20 as a limit) paired with the long tube? Or would that extra $200-300 be better spent on other components elsewhere?

[richardholdener]

I've run the Super Trapp muffs on another application and liked them. They were adjustable for street/race use bu they would have to be custom fit to mid pipe.


That's fine, wanted to ask just because I'm paranoid.

Would there be any benefit in going with a SuperTrapp-style muffler (uses a series of stacked plates at the end to allow very fine-grained tuning of the restrictiveness of the exhaust, takes about 10 minutes to change the number of plates from about 4-20 as a limit) paired with the long tube? Or would that extra $200-300 be better spent on other components elsewhere?

[PHXDEMON]

Is that including shipping? If not if I can get it shipped to Phoenix Arizona for under 600 then add me to the list. Turbo kits look like waaaay too much of a hassle for a DD. Evantually I can add the blitz S/C and really have some fun :burnrubber:

[WolfWings]

I've run the Super Trapp muffs on another application and liked them. They were adjustable for street/race use bu they would have to be custom fit to mid pipe.

Custom work's fine, there's plenty of places out here that I trust to do exhaust fabbing if nothing else.

[mikenacarato]

i think in backing out of this. going to be spending mroe money than desired on other crap that i need to take care of, also the car being so new idk if i want to lose my cats just yet ;)

[WolfWings]

So do what I'm doing - don't throw out the old parts, just neatly wrap them in plastic, and stack them in the garage.

I currently have these original parts stacked in a garage:

15" Tires
Radio antenna mount w/ antenna
Antenna wire
Shifter boot
E-brake boot


About the only pieces I didn't keep when I ripped them out were the blocks of rigid foam in the door panel when I was installing the sound deadener panels from Raam Audio.

[cali yaris]

do what I'm doing - don't throw out the old parts, just neatly wrap them in plastic, and stack them in the garage.

yeah, you should see my warehouse-- it's not pretty.

[Klink10]

^^^^ Mine (shop) isn't either.

[thepoche]

Alright, I give up... Add me to the list please :biggrin:

[PHXDEMON]

Cmon people I want to see these headers fabricated :headbang:

[richardholdener]

We are going forward with the first production run of the long tube header and mid pipe. We will have the following options: Cat, resonator or both

Cmon people I want to see these headers fabricated :headbang:

[jkuchta]

What material will the parts be made from? Also, will the cat be a bolt on affair (i.e. replaceable)?

[thepoche]

What material will the parts be made from?

I can't find where he said it, but I believe it will be mild steel. I would of prefered stainless cause things rust easily here in Canada.

[richardholdener]

The header will be made from mild steel with Jet Hot coating-we are also looking into cost difference for stainless steel. Cat will be bolt on (replaceable)

What material will the parts be made from? Also, will the cat be a bolt on affair (i.e. replaceable)?

[jkuchta]

I am VERY interested in a stainless version.

[WolfWings]

Okay, after doing some research I'm fine with the Jet Hot coated mild steel version if stainless turns out to be prohibitive.

And are the cat/resonator options all on the midpipe?

[PHXDEMON]

I'm down for cat only. Screw the resonator. That's what a muffler is for.

[t0m4s]

does it fit the seddan?

[richardholdener]

The header will definitley fit the sedan, but not sure about length of mid pipe-anyone know difference in length of exhaust system between hatch and sedan?

does it fit the seddan?

[anonymous user]

I think i just realized that i am the only sedan owner on this list. What problems do i run into richard? I would love to just bolt to a axleback and call it a day.

[RacerFreakXXX]

any idea on a month when it will be done?... jw

[PETERPOOP]

same with manifold

[lilredrocket]

If I screw in the O2 anti-fouler will this header pass emissions test? I live in Texas and They will use my OBD2 port to check for emissions. So aslong as the header doesn't throw a CEL I will buy it later on.

[richardholdener]

The header itself will not throw a CEL-but the second oxygen sensor is an issue. If it can be fooled with anti-fouler then there should be no problem. If the header is run with a cat-then it will likely pass a sniffer test as well but the system is offficially for off-road use only.

If I screw in the O2 anti-fouler will this header pass emissions test? I live in Texas and They will use my OBD2 port to check for emissions. So aslong as the header doesn't throw a CEL I will buy it later on.

[richardholdener]

We plan on having the header and mid pipe bolt to the axle back.

I think i just realized that i am the only sedan owner on this list. What problems do i run into richard? I would love to just bolt to a axleback and call it a day.

[lilredrocket]

Ok because texas only uses a sniffer on 96 and older cars so as long as the O2 sensor is reading ok, the check engine light isn't on, and its not pouring out black smoke Ill be fine. Unfortunatly I will have to buy this later I'm saving all the pennies I have for the intake mani.

[PHXDEMON]

any Idea when the header will be done? I need to know how long I have to save my money before I start spending it on other mods :burnrubber:

[kou]

please take me off the list.sorry, going turbo.

[PETERPOOP]

the OP still needs to edit my name saying i am a maybe. it all depends on the shipping

[RacerFreakXXX]

I'd assume shipping wouldn't be too much... if it's more than $100 I'm out

[PETERPOOP]

well i'm in hawaii so i usually get RIPPED. might have him ship it by freight if he would be so kind...

[anonymous user]

well i'm in hawaii so i usually get RIPPED. might have him ship it by freight if he would be so kind...

With the amount i have spent on freight over the last 3-4 years, i could've bought another yaris. But yeah PP, if you find out anything on either item as far as shipping goes, could you LMK? I'll do the same. TIA

[PETERPOOP]

definately!

[thebarber]

The header will definitley fit the sedan, but not sure about length of mid pipe-anyone know difference in length of exhaust system between hatch and sedan?

PM split...he's selling a nitto midpipe he altered to fit his sedan....

[RacerFreakXXX]

bad news... not gonna have the money for the header. I gotta pay a deductable for insurance, so my money situation isn't good. Sorry :(

[WolfWings]

So whatevered happened with this? Did we just not get up to 10 it looks like, or did the actual production pics of the header totally eclipse this bit of kit?

[PETERPOOP]

he's going to finish the manifold then work on this. this hasn't been forgotten.

[kou]

but has the manifold been forgotten?

[WolfWings]

he's going to finish the manifold then work on this. this hasn't been forgotten.

That's what I'd read, but suddenly I see this thread a month untouched and slid all the way back to page 2 and almost to 3. Figured a polite query-bump was in order before the thread went necrotic. :smile: