Super Amazing Oil Change DIY

[id3379]

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[LtNoogie]

A+ for the DYI and the banana costume.

As for your photographer's focusing skills...:iono:

[jkuchta]

Dude...5 qts. is WAY too much. The car should only take 3.5-3.8 with a filter change. Overfilling with oil can do SERIOUS DAMAGE to your engine!


Good DIY otherwise!

[Ace]

The recommendation is 4.3 quarts from a dry fill, i don't see how 5 is over doing it ? You couldn't even see the oil level if you looked in the head through the oil cap hole. And i've always used 5 quarts in my 1.5 liter 4 banger's from honda's to toyota's. Never had any problems at all.

it's your car... so do whatever the hell you want.

[jkuchta]

dry fill is no oil in the engine after a rebuild.......not an oil change with a filter. Also, a yaris is not a Honda. Do me a favor and take a look at the oil level on the dipstick and tell me how far above the high mark it is.

[Ace]

I think it's 12 quarts before you can see the oil from the cap so why stop at 5?

[elmo]

it was a quarter of an inch above the line


trust me you ain't doin you engine a favor overfillin your oil

but hey it's your car

[YamilR]

it was a quarter of an inch above the line

That means that you are about a quart of oil over the limit :eyebulge:

[voodoo22]

Great pictures and effort on this DIY.

[DFA]

why not new oil to lubricate the seal on the new filter?

I thought about this too as I was reading, but then I realized there's still quite a crapload of leftover old oil in the car, what difference is a fingerdip of new/old oil going to make?

[Klink10]

I thought about this too as I was reading, but then I realized there's still quite a crapload of leftover old oil in the car, what difference is a fingerdip of new/old oil going to make?

No difference at all. I might also add put some of that 3.8 qts. in the new filter to absorb into the media so that your getting full circulation right after start up. Is this necessary?....maybe not in this day and age but "old biker maint. tip" and I've done it this way for years.

[Tamago]

No difference at all. I might also add put some of that 3.8 qts. in the new filter to absorb into the media so that your getting full circulation right after start up. Is this necessary?....maybe not in this day and age but "old biker maint. tip" and I've done it this way for years.

the reason you want to use new oil is this...


old oil has metal particles in it that can cause seal failure on your oil filter.

[Tamago]

Also, thanks for poiting out the correct amount. i owe you :thumbsup:

the "serious damage" is really just oil foaming.. because there's more oil in the sump, it's "sloshed" more by the crankshaft which keeps it foamy.. which means air bubbles are trying to lubricate the REST of your engine.. not very effective lubrication and very poor cooling properties

[06silveryaris]

I have always overfilled when prepping for a trackday since I did not run a baffled oil pan. This was on Hondas only but for the yaris I just do 4qts.:iono:

[jkuchta]

I'm not mad at the guy...I just don't want him to make a simple mistake and possible spin a main or rod bearing on a pretty much new engine in a great looking sedan.


06silveryaris, this last weekend I ran my oil level about halfway between full and low (about 3.2 qts. with filter at the change) on the dipstick, and never saw any fluctuation in oil pressure. Running too much oil, especially on the track, can lead to a dangerous loss of the oil's cooling and lubricating abilitys due to foaming (Thanks for elaborating Tomago).

[gid]

Alright i drained a court of oil out, will note to only use 4 quarts max next time. My Mistake.

Thanks for the tips guys. No one's perfect will bring it to the FULL mark . Believe me I know , we have 2 YARIS and I have done 6 oil changes . We also had an '07 PRIUS ( 1.5 ltr. engine ) and that took 3 and 1/2 quarts to fill . Close to 1/2 a quart remains in the engine and pan from previous fill . It's better to be a bit under .

[gid]

otherwise well done :clap: . You should start your own show on the food channel . Oil and good 'ol HELPER are similiar . Just FUELS for thought :wink: .

[dvlnblkdrs]

A+ for the DYI and the banana costume.

As for your photographer's focusing skills...:iono:

heh sorry.. i have a shitty digi(most of the pix i usually take that y'all have seen are with my celly.. and by darnit, i happened to leave it at jamesons house! bah.. will get it later.. but ya.. we were kinda rushed a bit and then come to find out he didnt have an oil filter socket thing.. homie did that ish by hand with a wrench.. do what ya gotta since it was 9pm so everything was closed...


now seeing as iv witnessed and assisted this oil change procedure.. now imma be cool and do my own too! :biggrin: :thumbsup:

[largeorangefont]

One change I would make -

Make sure you break the oil filter loose BEFORE you drain the oil. You don't have to pull it off, just make sure you can turn it. That way if you have a problem getting it loose you can go get a proper tool and not be stranded.

[Chupacabra]

A few things I would change....

1) Engine and oil should be HOT to change the oil...don't let the car sit for an hour
2) Open the filler cap after you open the drain plug
3) Use wheel bearing grease to lube the filter gasket and spin on hand tight
4) I think that you let the car down before putting the drain plug back in. That's an important step. :biggrin:

[rstb88]

I disagree with the above, it doesn't need to be hot but not cold. Warm enough to run out smoothly not hot enough to melt gloves to your hand(running temp). Filler cap doesn't matter when opened, aslong as you open it. I would never use anything on a seal that would touch my engine oil unless it is the same oil(old or new) Granted its not much grease, but its an undesired product that may or may not contaminate my oil. Don't have to be down to put the drain plug it just gotta be down before you start the car and check the levels. Aweful hard to get under a Yaris to put the plug back in when its not on stands. I've always use old oil, 1 because unless I see metal flakes or grittyness I feel that it is safe to use 2 my finger doesn't reach far enough into the new oil to get some.

O I'm envious of that stove, I want it. It looks like either a Viking or Wolfe.

[Benggolf2]

I think it's 12 quarts before you can see the oil from the cap so why stop at 5?

:biggrin::biggrin::biggrin: Ohhhh, nasty but funny as hell!
On a serious note, wait for the oil to settle down (give it at least 10-15 minutes) after a drive and check your oil level carefully. Too much oil will cause your crankshaft to splash on the oil inside the crankcase and ..... create too much bubbles (like milk shake, eh) and consequently your engine lubrication will be compromised.

[nemelek]

It's tight, however I am able to do the oill change without using jacks. I keep cat litter handy. There could be a spill.

[Chupacabra]

I disagree with the above, it doesn't need to be hot but not cold. Warm enough to run out smoothly not hot enough to melt gloves to your hand(running temp). Filler cap doesn't matter when opened, aslong as you open it. I would never use anything on a seal that would touch my engine oil unless it is the same oil(old or new) Granted its not much grease, but its an undesired product that may or may not contaminate my oil. Don't have to be down to put the drain plug it just gotta be down before you start the car and check the levels. Aweful hard to get under a Yaris to put the plug back in when its not on stands. I've always use old oil, 1 because unless I see metal flakes or grittyness I feel that it is safe to use 2 my finger doesn't reach far enough into the new oil to get some.

O I'm envious of that stove, I want it. It looks like either a Viking or Wolfe.


You want the oil as hot as possible for maximum flow for the longest period. Opening the filler cap after the plug is pulled keeps the oil from shooting out all over your hands so you don't have to worry about a burn (basic physics). A small amt of wheel bearing grease on the gasket in not going to contaminate your oil....it more effectively seals the flange and allows you to remove the filter with ease at the next change (by hand). It doesn't even come in contact with the oil.

[06silveryaris]

I'm not mad at the guy...I just don't want him to make a simple mistake and possible spin a main or rod bearing on a pretty much new engine in a great looking sedan.


06silveryaris, this last weekend I ran my oil level about halfway between full and low (about 3.2 qts. with filter at the change) on the dipstick, and never saw any fluctuation in oil pressure. Running too much oil, especially on the track, can lead to a dangerous loss of the oil's cooling and lubricating abilitys due to foaming (Thanks for elaborating Tomago).


never thought of that, I will def try it next time out. thanks:smile:

[Tamago]

how many people are going to give the exact same advice lol...

[Tamago]

idk everyone hates me :iono:

nah man, everyone wants to show off their "super intelligent advice" on something that isn't really rocket science ;)

[bzinn 1]

That was a fun thread.........we have a guy here that wears a Parrot suit when changing his oil.

[TheRealEnth]

Besides the attacks, Great DIY, Wish i used this one when i last changed my oil =D. Just get some pro shots and edit them on mspaint next time and it will be cooler -thumbs up-

[Chupacabra]

I don't think anybody was trying to give the guy a hard time as much as it was, we were/are concerned that he may be putting too much oil into the crankcase which is not a good thing EVER. Aside from that...we are all just having a little bit of fun with it...I mean, the guy did dress up as a banana. Let's all just lighten up a bit....

[auxmike]

I've never heard of Valuecraft filters, are they any good?
Also, you state to rub the oil on the filter's THREADS not the gasket.....:confused:
Great pics made it a fun and intersting DIY.:w00t:

[gid]

not trying to be rude , just don't want to see yeh have any damage done by overfilling . Imagine TOYOTA would void your warranty if something should occur . Its a trial and error for all . Keep up the humor , this world could use more of it :thumbsup: .

[TheSilkySmooth]

Cool. I cant wait to get to work on Monday and check it! I can't see pic yet since I'm on dial up right now. Man, we all got to really carefully read the owners manual on the OC. and everything else. That oil level is critical to be at the line or less - maybe no more than 125ML over fill . Running with overfilled oil will void the warranty if you have engine failure with the overfill. I think there is a BIG warning in the manual about that. In the Motor, That crank and pistons are spinning like an airplane propeller at full power in the crankcase, and if oil is up around it will pick the fluid mass up and spin it like a tornado - possibly moving it away from the pump pick up, And you're loosing big time power and torque. But a lot of people said this already. Now lets have fun profilin in the yAR. ( I dont have a yar my sis has it but I take it every once in a while;) Its No Fiat, but it would be good maybe with hard strut bushings and lower arm bushing and a bit firmer springing):thumbup:

[gid]

here's a car ramp D.I.Y. ( pics ) for 1st generation SCION XB ( boxy YARIS ) . Go to http://s49.photobucket.com/albums/f280/vintagefortytwo/xB%20Trans%20Oil%20Change/?action=view&current=IMG_1243.jpg , could use 1 level for ramp instead ( plenty clearance with only 1 board ) . Then put 1 strip of wood across each end ( stoppers ) to prevent driving of ramp . Should take less than 1/2 an hour to make ( cut and nail ) .

[mikenacarato]

valucraft oil filters are sold at autozone and are made by the same people as stp and about 4 other brands.