kn drop in?

[superfly78209]

I know that the oil on the filter can clog the maf.. but is there another drop in filter that doesn't have to be oiled and just cleaned? or is there a good cai or sri that doesn't have a filter that's hard to remove from the intake and cleaned? Preferebly a filter that will last for many miles.. and not have to be cleaned a whole lot.. and a filter that isn't oiled. Thanks

[thebarber]

bleh, ive run k&n drop-in and cone filters in my cars for years....never had any problems w/ oiled filters....

[superfly78209]

here's simotas http://cgi.ebay.com.my/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=380082081709

but it has to be oiled and its much more expensive then the kn.

well.. i have too. and i haven't either.. did you notice any mpg gains.. im guessing its pretty impossible to feel a more responsive engine or anything?

[superfly78209]

here's a trd one..

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/TOYOTA-YARIS-SCION-XD-TRD-DROP-IN-AIR-FILTER_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp1638Q2em118Q2el1 247QQcategoryZ33591QQihZ022QQitemZ350085088884QQrd Z1QQsspagenameZWD1V

are all of these going to let in just a little bit more dirt than a stock paper filter?

[FunctionSpec]

aFe drop-in filter. I have a used one for sale:
http://www.yarisworld.com/forums/showthread.php?t=10569

[Doug007]

bleh, ive run k&n drop-in and cone filters in my cars for years....never had any problems w/ oiled filters....

+1 on oiled filters. I've used K&N drop-ins for many years.

[blacksandiegovitz]

+1 on oiled filters. I've used K&N drop-ins for many years.

^^Yeah +2 on that , i've also used k&n filters for years and many different cars and many styles of intake i.e short ram, cold air , drop in filter and never had a problem with my maf . Just don't over oil the filter after you clean it and your maf will be ok .
If you want something differnt , thats a dry element drop-in filter i've seen
Blitz for about $50
C-one for about $90
and Trd drop in is about $110

[blacksandiegovitz]

forgot to add i'm running a k&n drop-in with the bottom hacked of the airbox and it works killer for me and only cost $28(pepboy had a sale on k&n's)

[superfly78209]

What do you think.. kn vs. afe (or unoiled filter) which one will collect particles better? and does anyone know how often afe has to be cleaned? Thanks

Also when you hacked the airbox.. did it help a lot?

[Thirty-Nine]

I've run K&N filters in every one of my vehicles, and have never had a problem.

[blacksandiegovitz]

What do you think.. kn vs. afe (or unoiled filter) which one will collect particles better? and does anyone know how often afe has to be cleaned? Thanks

Also when you hacked the airbox.. did it help a lot?

I belive that k&n claims their filter to flow the most cfm's and also filter the most. The oil on the filter will also catch more crap . Its really a personal prefrence on "wet" or "dry" filters imo. Yes hacking the bottom of the airbox helped tons , it sounds just like an short ram intake now. A lot of sucking sound just reving it and under wot it really screams .I gained about 2 mpg's also, the best/cheapest modd i've done so far and it looks all stock too.

[superfly78209]

so the consensus is.. that the kn filter will filter better than a dry air filter such as the afe? Thanks

[superfly78209]

Also, can I see a pict on how you hacked your airbox? like which sides? Thanks

[superfly78209]

and how big?

[kargoboy]

You guys that like or run drop-ins...I'll have the Simota drop-ins available in a few days.
Probably less that $30.00 shipped. Run dry or oiled.

[superfly78209]

So, do dry filters filter better or worse than oiled filters? Thanks for the responses.

[thebarber]

So, do dry filters filter better or worse than oiled filters? Thanks for the responses.

neither is better or worse, really

lots of it is conjecture and hearsay

it just seems to me that some people on this forum are AFRAID of oiled filters thinking that theyll screw up their mass airflow sensor....which really wouldnt be the case....

[superfly78209]

so I guess the main difference.. is that the oiled filters dont have to be cleaned for many more miles than the dry ones.. I guess the dry ones have to be cleaned every 3k? and they both filter about the same?

[MUSKOKA800]

bleh, ive run k&n drop-in and cone filters in my cars for years....never had any problems w/ oiled filters....

Same results here.
~22000 kilometers so far on my 2008 sedan all with a K&N drop in and never a hic-up. Over 250000 kilometers on my TurboTalon with a K&N cone type intake system, again, never an issue. It still ran STRONG when I let it go.

[superfly78209]

I like the idea of not ever having to reoil a filter.. not really worried about the maf.. but I wonder what the pros and cons of filtration and air restriction go when considering a dry and oiled filter media.

[thebarber]

i personally like that the oiled filter will repell water drips and that the oil will hold dirt and dust

ive never used a dryflow filter though, so i can only speak from my oiled filter experience.

like i said earlier, or somewhere else, in my matrix i would clean the filter on my cai every 6 months or so (whenever i put on or took off my winters and front body kit/chins). itd get dusty and grimy from the summer construction in the area and dirty and grimy from road muck all winter....the cai filter was below the driversside headlight......i had 2 cone filters so id always have one clean one around to do a quick swap when the time came...

[TheSilkySmooth]

I belive that k&n claims their filter to flow the most cfm's and also filter the most. The oil on the filter will also catch more crap . Its really a personal prefrence on "wet" or "dry" filters imo. Yes hacking the bottom of the airbox helped tons , it sounds just like an short ram intake now. A lot of sucking sound just reving it and under wot it really screams .I gained about 2 mpg's also, the best/cheapest modd i've done so far and it looks all stock too. Cool. How big a hole in the bottom and where is it? Or di you just hack the whole bottom off? This is got to be the best for the least!

[06silveryaris]

Cool. How big a hole in the bottom and where is it? Or di you just hack the whole bottom off? This is got to be the best for the least!

I have two small holes in my airbox which are 2" aprox by 2.5" in rectangular shape. One is on the front towards the headlight and the other on the closest side to the fender. It does sound pretty mean.
:burnrubber:

[blacksandiegovitz]

Cool. How big a hole in the bottom and where is it? Or di you just hack the whole bottom off? This is got to be the best for the least!

Yeah , I just hacked off the whole bottom , about 3 " up from the bottom .I Just turned the box on its side and hacked the whole bottom off . If for some reason I ever want it back to stock, I can just plastic weld the bottom back to the box . It also retains the clips for the lid and the little post that seats into a rubber gromet in the engine bay, so it looks just like stock . This is the best power/mpg's - dollar modd out there . I plan on showing the car and will be going with the stock air-box lid flip upside down and a C-one drop-in filter which looks very killer and still a clean oem look too.

[TheSilkySmooth]

Yeah , I just hacked off the whole bottom , about 3 " up from the bottom .I Just turned the box on its side and hacked the whole bottom off . If for some reason I ever want it back to stock, I can just plastic weld the bottom back to the box . It also retains the clips for the lid and the little post that seats into a rubber gromet in the engine bay, so it looks just like stock . This is the best power/mpg's - dollar modd out there . I plan on showing the car and will be going with the stock air-box lid flip upside down and a C-one drop-in filter which looks very killer and still a clean oem look too. You get the Scottish frugality power mod award of the week!

[blacksandiegovitz]

You get the Scottish frugality power mod award of the week!

Yeah , I wasn't sure what intake I want to go with so I played it safe and just went with the k&n drop in that was like $29 + airbox hack . Yeah gotta go with the cheap power modds since I already dumped like 3k in cosmetic parts lol .

[jinxor]

K&N 57i Series Induction Kit

Just wondering if this kit is a cai or an sri.... and if anyone is using this

[N3misiS]

Yo Guys,

I do not know if you guys get BMC FIlters there, I am running one, and it comes pre oiled, it never lets anything in your intake, not dust or whatever you can think of, Simote is a piece of crap, K N are also good.

The BMC gives a nice sound to...

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[Benggolf2]

Finally installed the K&N drop-in air filter today. :thumbsup:
Noticed improved engine response. :headbang:

[saplaymate]

The whole oiled filters causing a dirty MAF is the result of stupid people thinking together on the internet, MAF sensors go through a self-cleaning cycle every time you start the car. A dry filter is fine for normal street use, but oiled filters will do better in dirtier environments, and prechargers help in both cases.