muffler vs exhaust

[RacerFreakXXX]

what's better, buying a 60mm/90mm muffler for $200 and spending $100 on custom 60mm piping ot just buying an exhaust for about $350?

Really I'm comparing the tanabe muffler vs the tanabe medallion concept-g exhaust. The piping is 50mm but idk how restrictive it is vs a muffler with regular piping.

[largeorangefont]

If you are going to go to a muffler shop to do a custom piping, don't waste your money on an overpriced axleback. You can get a full catback done for less than a Tanabe axleback.

A 2 in catback is plenty. You can go 2 1/4 inch but it will be a little louder.

[thebarber]

If you are going to go to a muffler shop to do a custom piping, don't waste your money on an overpriced axleback. You can get a full catback done for less than a Tanabe axleback.

A 2 in catback is plenty. You can go 2 1/4 inch but it will be a little louder.

agreed

if youre serious about gains get a catback custom made (or resonater-back in this case)

magnaflow said that the cat and res were 2" straight thru and the res-back piping is currently 1.75"

get a custom 2" mandrel-bent exhaust with a muffler of your choice....likely cheaper than many of the axlebacks available...

[marcus]

the only problem with custom is that they rust alot faster due to bends and welds.. i guess as long as you dont get salt during winter youll be fine..

[lilredrocket]

Some shops that you get a custom job done will fix it if it leaks, or pay a little more than mild steel and get it done in stainless

[largeorangefont]

the only problem with custom is that they rust alot faster due to bends and welds.. i guess as long as you dont get salt during winter youll be fine..

A $3 can of high heat paint in the color of your choice fixes that.

Most exhaust shops use alumnized tubing, so the only thing that will rust are the welds.

[thebarber]

the only problem with custom is that they rust alot faster due to bends and welds.. i guess as long as you dont get salt during winter youll be fine..

buy stainless piping...

http://www.exhaustdirect.com/

likely where ill buy my piping and bends...unless i find a shop that can do mandrel bends themselves...

[at3GG]

I would just get a custom cat back done as well. You'd spend 150-200 having them do an axleback....just spend the extra 50-60 bucks and get the additional piping. Then get some header wrap, wrap the whole thing and seal it with wrap seal/high temp paing. This whole bit will cost you less and get you more in the power range

[Yoda]

hmm so why doesnt ever1 one else do this? If i knew this i wouldnt have bothered gettin my trd

[1nz]

Will there be Hp difference if u use bolt on cat backs like hks/greedy/blitz compared to a custom cat back?? I did gained 4whp from a custom exhaust 98-102.8whp

[largeorangefont]

hmm so why doesnt ever1 one else do this? If i knew this i wouldnt have bothered gettin my trd

People think overpriced JDM crap is better.

[RacerFreakXXX]

well what i'm probally going to do is get those long tube headers and just do straight piping all the way back with a muffler i was just wondering if there was any difference other than price. oh does anyone know of a muffler that is 2.25"(50mm) in and 2.5"(60mm)out?

[thebarber]

well what i'm probally going to do is get those long tube headers and just do straight piping all the way back with a muffler i was just wondering if there was any difference other than price. oh does anyone know of a muffler that is 2.25"(50mm) in and 2.5"(60mm)out?

click this link for an answer (www.google.com)

[mastaofdisasta]

People think overpriced JDM crap is better.

Or maybe someone just doesnt wanna go thru the time and trouble to make an exhaust, or maybe they dont wanna hack up the stock exhaust for their own purposes, maybe they dont want to have to worry about losing too much low end torque by doin a full catback, many more reasons then what you have mentioned. Axleback is just easier to me.

[Split]

just cut your exhuast right after the first cat and o2 sensor. Then get a muffler shop to bend you piping all the way to the back with a cherrybomb glass-pack 2" diameter somewhere in the middle and the muffler of your choice at the end.

[at3GG]

I didnt do it just because I know that if I ever go to trade in this car i KNOW the bastards would bitch about the exhaust being "tampered" with. I really would only ever buy something that is a full replacement. The convenience to be able to have my entire car factory stock again in a matter of hours is worth a few hundred bucks down the line. IMO

[at3GG]

P.S The greddy, HKS and Blitz are NOT cat backs. They are axle backs like the rest of them. As far as I know there are no production catbacks for us yet. Dammit lol

[RacerFreakXXX]

lol... yea I googled the muffler and the size is impossible to find. See I'm going to keep my stock exhaust for when I sell the car. Nothing wrong with paying alot for a name brand but it's just not always thebest berformance. I'm going for straight exhaust... I'll probally just find a muffler and when i get the race header I'll just get biping back from that.

[Spades]

just cut your exhuast right after the first cat and o2 sensor. Then get a muffler shop to bend you piping all the way to the back with a cherrybomb glass-pack 2" diameter somewhere in the middle and the muffler of your choice at the end.

x2

thats what i did, my garage has pics of the set up. im running two glasspacks...pretty loud, but good flow and excellant tone. make sure even if you get a turbo style muffle on the end to run a long glasspack right after the cat if you want a nice deep tone. my current set up was the best flowing and cheapest i tried, but second best flowing and sounding was a borla turbo muffler on the end with a long glasspack down the middle of the car.

the borla doesnt flow as well as the shorty glasspack i have now, and it was only slightly louder than stock. good setup if you want performance and silence.

[justjesus]

A $3 can of high heat paint in the color of your choice fixes that.

Most exhaust shops use alumnized tubing, so the only thing that will rust are the welds.

True that. I just helped a buddy out with his Evo X. The shop used aluminized tubing, and about two weeks later we pulled it off to paint it (for him, it was about looks). The welding was showing some surface rust, but the tubing was looking okay. Some prep work, a couple of cans of high temp in flat black, and it looks pretty good.

at3GG / Racerfreak: You can do like this guy. No need to hack up your stock exhaust. He had an entire exhaust made up. He needed to take it to the dealership for reflash, so he swapped the stock exhaust back in. Didn't take long either

racerfreak Regarding the 2.25"/2.5" in/out, i thought maybe Flowmaster had one, but a quick search through their 40 series and 60 series didn't show one. It seems the only time I see different sizing in/out is when it's a dual outlet design.
http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w149/JustJesus2000/IMG_0030.jpg

[at3GG]

that looks pretty nice

[justjesus]

that looks pretty nice

thanks! (I sprayed it). The price was fairly cheap too. I plan on doing similar for my yaris, but I can't decide which muffler to go with. I think I was quoted about 175, which included a Magnaflow muffler. This would be for an axleback.

[largeorangefont]

Or maybe someone just doesnt wanna go thru the time and trouble to make an exhaust, or maybe they dont wanna hack up the stock exhaust for their own purposes, maybe they dont want to have to worry about losing too much low end torque by doin a full catback, many more reasons then what you have mentioned. Axleback is just easier to me.

You can get a custom axleback for $150. Less if you don't want a loud muffler.

My axleback cost me $70.

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a386/largeorangefont/IMG_1359.jpg

[justjesus]

You can get a custom axleback for $150. Less if you don't want a loud muffler.
My axleback cost me $70.


Damn. And I thought my place I went to was cheap! We're gonna have to hook up so I can see what your's sounds like in person (I like the sound on the video on the exhaust thread).

[largeorangefont]

Damn. And I thought my place I went to was cheap! We're gonna have to hook up so I can see what your's sounds like in person (I like the sound on the video on the exhaust thread).

Sounds good. If you want one I can send you to the muffler shop that did it for me.

[marcus]

A $3 can of high heat paint in the color of your choice fixes that.

Most exhaust shops use alumnized tubing, so the only thing that will rust are the welds.

sorry that didnt work either only because rust also will come from the inside weld of the pipe...

[largeorangefont]

sorry that didnt work either only because rust also will come from the inside weld of the pipe...

True, but it will take many many years for it to be a problem if you protect the outside of the pipe.

You could send it off to be thermal coated if you are really worried about it.

[RacerFreakXXX]

imo if you are that worried about a $200 exhaust you shouldn't have bought the exhaust... I can understand if you spent 1k on it but no yars exhaust cost that much or should ever

[justjesus]

Sounds good. If you want one I can send you to the muffler shop that did it for me.


yes please! thanks man:thumbup: