does anyone get synthethic at toyota dealer?

[iwantayarisnyc]

just curious if you watch the mechanic pour synthethic oil from containers

and how much the oil change costs with synthethic....

[TheSilkySmooth]

Dont do it! Buy some Motul 8100 E-tech or Elf Excelluim renault/peugeot spec and DIY. Check LTB motorsports

- the bro

[slvryaris]

My dealership wanted to charge $75 for a synthetic Mobil 1 oil change. So ya I just bought some Royal Purple and a Wix filter and changed it myself.

[jambo101]

Our dealer has a 360 degree glass waiting room above the service area so every one who's waiting can watch the mechanic work on their car.
They charged me $60 for a Mobil1 plus filter change.

[gid]

way to expensive . Go to ADVANCE AUTO PARTS , BJs WHOLESALE ( Shell synthetic , $4.19 a qt. ) , WALLY WORLD , PEBOYS , AUTOZONE , or others for better price . Get oil yourself and have them do the oil change by substituting the regular oil with the synthetic you bought and still using their oil filter , a TOYO ( Denso ) I assume . I would think the total cost would be $40 or a bit more . If you do so , bring 4 quarts of the synthetic and tell them to pour 3 and a 1/2 quarts in for the fill . This will bring it to or a tad below/above the FULL line on the dipstick . Read dipstick before leaving the business to make sure oil was installed , we've had them not fill ( possibly 1/2 qt. oil :eek: ) or overfill ( 1 qt. or > :rolleyes: ) the engine in past . Then , recheck oil when car has been sitting for 1 hour or more on a level surface . Last , look under the car for leaks on occasion ( loose oil filter ) . My better halfs ' brother had a well known oil change chain not tighten the filter on his TACOMA . Luckily we were around to notice the oil spewing from under the truck and had him come to house so I could tighten the filter and pour in 4 quarts of oil I had in garage . Quite messy as well . These are the reasons why I now do oil changes myself . Plus it's cheaper :biggrin: .

[Doug007]

way to expensive . Go to ADVANCE AUTO PARTS , BJs WHOLESALE ( Shell synthetic , $4.19 a qt. ) , WALLY WORLD , PEBOYS , AUTOZONE , or others for better price . Get oil yourself and have them do the change .

Actually found Walmart to be the cheapest in our area, beating Costco. I pick up an OEM filter and have it changed for $10 labor/disposal. Total cost is about $35 this way.

[iwantayarisnyc]

way to expensive . Go to ADVANCE AUTO PARTS , BJs WHOLESALE ( Shell synthetic , $4.19 a qt. ) , WALLY WORLD , PEBOYS , AUTOZONE , or others for better price . Get oil yourself and have them do the change .

that's the thing, i could definitely change the oil myself, but i want to leave a record. i don't think a receipt of the syn oil + filter would do. i want a receipt from a mechanic place, etc

however, dealers get their oil change marked up in carfax....which is even better.....when people carfax your car(when you plan to sell) they will see a service history.....

[Thirty-Nine]

I do my own Mobil-1 oil changes with a Puralator filter for about $35.

[ddongbap]

Syn oil is kinda over rated.

[Thirty-Nine]

Syn oil is kinda over rated.

Why?

[ddongbap]

Why?

Why would you spend more on oil? Esp on a teeny weeny engine like our 1NZ?

[Bob_VT]

just curious if you watch the mechanic pour synthethic oil from containers

and how much the oil change costs with synthethic....

Well you could ask to watch............

As far as cost since Toyota dealers are independantly owned they are permitted to chage whatever they want........ so the best advice is to ASK THEM.

[Thirty-Nine]

Why would you spend more on oil? Esp on a teeny weeny engine like our 1NZ?

Because it's better for the engine? I don't care how small the engine is; I want my engine to perform at its peak and last as long as possible, since I do not plan on getting rid of the Yaris until it dies. I guess it depends on how you look at it. Why run synthetic in any engine?

[mikenacarato]

+1 :) royal purple ftw!

[ddongbap]

Because it's better for the engine? I don't care how small the engine is; I want my engine to perform at its peak and last as long as possible, since I do not plan on getting rid of the Yaris until it dies. I guess it depends on how you look at it. Why run synthetic in any engine?

Can you prove that syn oil, changed at regular intervals is any better than conventional, changed at regular intervals?

[luckypierre]

Can you prove that syn oil, changed at regular intervals is any better than conventional, changed at regular intervals?

If you define what you will accept as proof, then yes, I believe I can.

[ddongbap]

If you define what you will accept as proof, then yes, I believe I can.

Wasn't talking to you though, and I had already defined a response I would accept.

Anyway, before this gets into a big 'ole argument, lets stop.

Sure syn could possibly help, or w/e. I just don't see a point.

[luckypierre]

Wasn't talking to you though, and I had already defined a response I would accept.

*shrugs* just trying to help nevermind then

[ddongbap]

*shrugs* just trying to help nevermind then

I had edited my post btw.

[gid]

Why would you spend more on oil? Esp on a teeny weeny engine like our 1NZ?

it works harder . Especially on interstate , steep hills , etc.. :wink:

[gid]

plus the comfort of knowing it's synthetic . SECURITY BLANKET for you and your YARIS (es) :biggrin: . Sleep well baby YARIS :rolleyes: .

[slvryaris]

Bearing load tests done shows it protects better then conventional, but there are all kinds of threads on here for oil.

[TinyGiant]

i heard the yaris comes with syn in it....

[talnlnky]

I got 8 free toyota dealer oil changes with the purchase of my car. On my 3rd oil change (13,700 miles) I asked how much it would cost to upgrade to synth...they said something like $40... I asked If I could bring my own 5w30 oil... and they said it was fine. Next day I returned with my 5quart mobil1 synth I got from walmart for something around $20-22. for my oil change at 18k miles I couldn't find a 5 quart jug of mobil so I went with castrol synth.

If I didn't have those free oil changes... I would be doing this all myself... but.. why bother... they do it quicker than I can... no set up or clean up time for them. And I've never had to wait in line at their place either. I love small suburbs.

[ChinoCharles]

I really hope all you guys that are rocking top-tier oil in your cars don't go out and buy bottom-tier crap-o gasoline. That always cracks me up... Mobil One + Costco. LOL

[PaidTimeOff]

I really hope all you guys that are rocking top-tier oil in your cars don't go out and buy bottom-tier crap-o gasoline. That always cracks me up... Mobil One + Costco. LOL

This is subjective according to your location. Costco gas gets the same gas as all the local Chevrons in my area.

[Thirty-Nine]

I figure this: Every 5,000 miles it costs me about $15 more to do a synthetic oil change. To me, spending the extra money is worth it. That's just my "dos centavos," though.

[slvryaris]

My Yaris came with and at the dealership when I had them change it their Toyota bulk oil was Valvoline Durablend. I always run Marathon gas in mine and about every other fill up I put in a can of Seafoam.

[65tuxedo]

My dealer charges quite a bit for synthetic, but the service manager told me to bring my own oil next time, they don't care.

[ddongbap]

i heard the yaris comes with syn in it....

It dosen't.

[IllusionX]

the dealer does Castrol GTX in Canada.. and Mobile1 for synthetic.

I actually do go in the garage to look at what they are doing.. and speak with the mechanics if the one doing the oil change is experienced. but... i do my own oil change anyways...

[TheSilkySmooth]

plus the comfort of knowing it's synthetic . SECURITY BLANKET for you and your YARIS (es) :biggrin: . Sleep well baby YARIS :rolleyes: .
I just made the switch on Sis car to MOTUL 8100 SYN ACEA A5/B5 (their cheapest stuff) and the car runs noticably better than the M5000 I was breaking it in on. Smoother more stable idle and no noticable performance loss during warmup of the oil ( 15deg F to 195+). Car is less buzzy on the interstate at 60-70mph and the apparent midrange torque is improved (you call "butt dyno"). Cant prove it but like it. This is PAO base so not as good as MOTUL 8100 E-Tech or 300V. PAO syn is Good for winter, polyol esters for (or DI-A ester) for race or hard summer use..
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#1 benefit - of REAL syn? Near zero (-0-) varnish behind piston and in chain tensioner area
Biggest zone for performance issues on modern tight tolerance engines.

Second benefit is more shear stability around the piston - so less gum higher balanced compression, less chance of stuck ring and consistent piston-will lubrication day in and out. Tear a few hundred motors down in your carreer and you will see what I mean ....

Little means HARD WORKING: Any high-specific output engine needs TLC ( yaris makes over 1-HP per Cu/In so it is POWERFUL for a1-Atmospheric engine If it was sized up to a 6.2L Chevy V8 it would be like 450HP!!

- Sonjas Bro

MOTUL is famous for their Lemans 20 -60 Race oil ( and NO dont put it in your yaris) I don not work for them

[TheSilkySmooth]

I have not been impressed with ANY commonly available OTC oil in API SJ/SL/SM. I had a good application for M1 tri-syn formula YEARS ago and the oil performed well in a HSO Mitsubisho 1.5L 4 cyl. But now we hear NO commonly available oil is 100% GTO or vegetable syn base, just H-R mineral oils. M1-EP should be 100% non-mineral base.
- I am liking the MOTUL. No complaints on oil NOW.

[metalshark]

When I had the dealer install synthetic at 10K miles they charged an extra $40 and they used Mobil-1 from quart bottles. At first the motor was slightly noisier afterward but quieted down quickly. The mileage with stock Toyota 5w-30 and Mobil-1 5w-20 was identical. (no surprise there) I didn't develop any leaks after the dealer installed synthetic (warranty issue) so at 15K I did the change myself with a stock filter and Amsoil 5w-20. My mileage went up and I still have no leaks. Looks like the stock seals don't care about synthetic. Once again I got a little more engine noise after the change but it quieted back down in about a week. I'm going to look into the Motul products but with 43 city/39 highway I'm doing well considering the winter temps and ethanoled gasoline. For calculating mileage I still wish I could buy imperial gallons for the same price. When the canucks report fabulous mileage I always wonder about that little detail. Yes, I hyper-mile.

[1stToyota]

I just made the switch on Sis car to MOTUL 8100 SYN ACEA A5/B5 (their cheapest stuff) and the car runs noticably better than the M5000 I was breaking it in on.

Don't know much about Motul, but the Amsoil HP also has the ACEA A5/B5 rating, without the API approval. I don't want to hear any excuses from the service department, when and if I ever have any warranty issues, so I'm thinking about switching out the Amsoil HP and going with LubroMoly 5w-30, next oil change (ACEA A3/B4/C3, I think...and API certified) Maybe not as good as Amsoil HP, but better than Amsoil XL, plus I'm already using their product in my transaxle. What I like about LubroMoly is that I can get it with next day free shipping.