Problems?

[Twistoffate0817]

Okay, so i bought my 2009 Toyota Yaris at the end of October of this year. So i've had it for like, 2 months.

The brakes have become very mushy, to the point where i have to forcefully push them as far as they can go to stop the vehicle at any given speed.

One morning I was doing around 25 mph, and the car just wouldnt go any more, so i pressed the pedal down far, and nothing happened..so i pulled over..just checked things out, and it was fine after that.

So I take it back to toyota, I have them check it all and everything, and they stood there and called me crazy and said nothing was wrong with the vehicle.

Has these problems happened to anyone else?

And also, does anyone have problems with the automatics not shifting after 40 mph?

[cleong]

Okay, it sounds like you have a lemon. Drive it to another Toyota dealer to have it checked out. They can't be the only Toyota dealer in your area.

[Shroomster]

Okay, so i bought my 2009 Toyota Yaris at the end of October of this year. So i've had it for like, 2 months.

The brakes have become very mushy, to the point where i have to forcefully push them as far as they can go to stop the vehicle at any given speed.

One morning I was doing around 25 mph, and the car just wouldnt go any more, so i pressed the pedal down far, and nothing happened..so i pulled over..just checked things out, and it was fine after that.

So I take it back to toyota, I have them check it all and everything, and they stood there and called me crazy and said nothing was wrong with the vehicle.

Has these problems happened to anyone else?

And also, does anyone have problems with the automatics not shifting after 40 mph?

sounds like you are accidentally placing the car in 3 instead of D when you come out of the neutral you should make sure the selector moves over to the right.

PLEASE CHECK OUT THIS SIMILAR THREAD!!! (http://yarisworld.com/forums/showthread.php?p=197547#post197547)<<<<CLICK

[ddongbap]

sounds like you are accidentally placing the car in 3 instead of D when you come out of the neutral you should make sure the selector moves over to the right.

PLEASE CHECK OUT THIS SIMILAR THREAD!!! (http://yarisworld.com/forums/showthread.php?p=197547#post197547)<<<<CLICK

That doesn't really solve his problem.

[b_hickman11]

That doesn't really solve his problem.

It will solve his "not shifting after 40 mph" problem. As far as the brakes go be sure the check the fluid level. I would also go back to the dealer and ask them to bleed the brakes for me.

[500snakz]

It is because you did not let it warm up upon starting it. The "cool temp light" on the dash must go off before driving. It will not shift properly and stays in 3rd gear. I think it is a MAJOR safety issue and am probably going to get rid of my yaris for this issue.
Another STUPID idea from toyota...

[voodoo22]

It is because you did not let it warm up upon starting it. The "cool temp light" on the dash must go off before driving. It will not shift properly and stays in 3rd gear. I think it is a MAJOR safety issue and am probably going to get rid of my yaris for this issue.
Another STUPID idea from toyota...

This "stupid" idea lowers your maintenance costs long term. I fail to see how in anyway this could be construed to be a safety issue of any kind. A major safety issue in my opinion is something like the fuel tank in the Ford Pinto. Not an feature which forces the engine to be warm before shifting like it would under optimal temperatures.

It's also better to drive the car slowly as soon as you start it versus idling. Better for fuel efficiency and better for the maintenance of your car.

Seems like you hate a lot of things about your Yaris. I suggest you research and test something better before you buy it next time. Sure, the Yaris is far from perfect and some things about it annoy me (The warm up feature which prevents proper shifting until a proper engine temp is reach, included), but the Yaris is a great car for what it was intended to do.

[1stToyota]

It is because you did not let it warm up upon starting it. The "cool temp light" on the dash must go off before driving. It will not shift properly and stays in 3rd gear. I think it is a MAJOR safety issue and am probably going to get rid of my yaris for this issue.
Another STUPID idea from toyota...

My dealership took care of that "safety issue" for me; they sold me a 5-speed. :wink:

[bronsin]

Once I had the floormat interfere with the brake pedal. Barely stopped for a stop sign.

[b_hickman11]

It is because you did not let it warm up upon starting it. The "cool temp light" on the dash must go off before driving. It will not shift properly and stays in 3rd gear. I think it is a MAJOR safety issue and am probably going to get rid of my yaris for this issue.
Another STUPID idea from toyota...

ALL cars have this same "issue" as you call it. All cars(AT) must warm up properly before they will shift correctly. Toyota has given you a light to know when the warm up period is over and you can drive it normally. Stupid idea? So it's stupid for them to let the driver know when its "safe" to drive normally as oppose to other cars that you have to "guess" when the car is warmed up. Also, my dealer told me that it was better for the life of the car to drive it carefully during the warm up period instead of letting it idle to warm up.

[ddongbap]

It is because you did not let it warm up upon starting it. The "cool temp light" on the dash must go off before driving. It will not shift properly and stays in 3rd gear. I think it is a MAJOR safety issue and am probably going to get rid of my yaris for this issue.
Another STUPID idea from toyota...

So you know the problem, and you also know the solution. Yet you still call out Toyota on this, and I'm going to assume you ignore the light and drive anyways.

[Sodium Duck]

Everyone must be really stressed out from christmas shopping or something, it's like a 24/7 whine-fest, pitty party, bash-o-rama around here lately.

[ECHOKnight2000]

The warming thing with the auto is for emissions reasons. When your car is cold it emits worse fumes than warmed up. So the tranny doesn't up shift into the overdrive gears until it reaches a certain temp. It helps the engine warm up faster. With my ECHO i Have this. Its annoying but oh well, as long as the car starts and keeps going I can't complain.

[msfire671]

Thanks! solved my problem!:w00t:ALL cars have this same "issue" as you call it. All cars(AT) must warm up properly before they will shift correctly. Toyota has given you a light to know when the warm up period is over and you can drive it normally. Stupid idea? So it's stupid for them to let the driver know when its "safe" to drive normally as oppose to other cars that you have to "guess" when the car is warmed up. Also, my dealer told me that it was better for the life of the car to drive it carefully during the warm up period instead of letting it idle to warm up.

[ddongbap]

Everyone must be really stressed out from christmas shopping or something, it's like a 24/7 whine-fest, pitty party, bash-o-rama around here lately.

IDK about everyone else, but I'm 100% of the year whine-bash-flame fest.

[500snakz]

This "stupid" idea lowers your maintenance costs long term. I fail to see how in anyway this could be construed to be a safety issue of any kind. A major safety issue in my opinion is something like the fuel tank in the Ford Pinto. Not an feature which forces the engine to be warm before shifting like it would under optimal temperatures.

It's also better to drive the car slowly as soon as you start it versus idling. Better for fuel efficiency and better for the maintenance of your car.

Seems like you hate a lot of things about your Yaris. I suggest you research and test something better before you buy it next time. Sure, the Yaris is far from perfect and some things about it annoy me (The warm up feature which prevents proper shifting until a proper engine temp is reach, included), but the Yaris is a great car for what it was intended to do.

Ok lets see...Car cool temp light is still on after warming a few minutes or you drove off slowly to let it warm...OH CRAP there's a car that I must avoid hitting me in the rear because I driving slow on the highway. I mash the gas pedal and nothing but over tached motor and no shifting...going 40 mph tops...SMASH!!!you just died because your car was in cool temp mode...DO YOU SEE NOW? or should I elaborate more? I think it's a stupid idea and have never had another vehicle of any kind do that. And I have had quite a few cars, trucks, and suv's. I have been driving for 26 years and that is longer than most of you have even been alive. Unlike a lot of members here, the yaris is NOT my first car.
I have my opinion and you have yours. I don't like that you and others flame me because I don't live in your "Toyota is God world". I like my yaris very much BUT it is NOT the best thing since sliced bread. It does what I bought it to do...save gas and be reasonably dependable and low cost of ownership, PERIOD...So stop your flaming and whining and understand that not everything is perfect with this car...

[1stToyota]

Ok lets see...Car cool temp light is still on after warming a few minutes or you drove off slowly to let it warm...OH CRAP there's a car that I must avoid hitting me in the rear because I driving slow on the highway. I mash the gas pedal and nothing but over tached motor and no shifting...going 40 mph tops...SMASH!!!you just died because your car was in cool temp mode...DO YOU SEE NOW? or should I elaborate more? I think it's a stupid idea and have never had another vehicle of any kind do that. And I have had quite a few cars, trucks, and suv's. I have been driving for 26 years and that is longer than most of you have even been alive. Unlike a lot of members here, the yaris is NOT my first car.
I have my opinion and you have yours. I don't like that you and others flame me because I don't live in your "Toyota is God world". I like my yaris very much BUT it is NOT the best thing since sliced bread. It does what I bought it to do...save gas and be reasonably dependable and low cost of ownership, PERIOD...So stop your flaming and whining and understand that not everything is perfect with this car...

SHWING!!! Mine has a 5-speed...and so did my Escort GT...and my Contour SVT...oh dang it!!!! Guess what? STILL got rear-ended in both of those cars while minding my own business. Was hurt pretty seriously in the Escort and did $8K damage to the rear...estimates are that the guy was going about 90mph. Wouldn't have mattered if it was winter or summer, stick or auto, there are some accidents that just can't be avoided when the other guy is driving wreckless and about twice as fast..

[500snakz]

SHWING!!! Mine has a 5-speed...and so did my Escort GT...and my Contour SVT...oh dang it!!!! Guess what? STILL got rear-ended in both of those cars while minding my own business. Was hurt pretty seriously in the Escort and did $8K damage to the rear...estimates are that the guy was going about 90mph. Wouldn't have mattered if it was winter or summer, stick or auto, there are some accidents that just can't be avoided when the other guy is driving wreckless and about twice as fast..

That is true for sure. BUT can you see my side of this also? If you can't get out of the way it does increase your odds of getting rear ended.

[Rain]

Once I had the floormat interfere with the brake pedal. Barely stopped for a stop sign.

I had this happen to me on the freeway... :thumbdown:

[Rich k]

P.S. most cars with an auto trans lockout the highest gear and hold the lower gears longer when the engine is cold, like another member said, its to heat the engine up quicker by forcing it to work under a greater load untill it is warm. Every car that i've owned with a fuel injector system has been like this. Its not a safety concern, the car will go just as fast as it would with the top gear its just going to rev a lot higher to get there and may seem like it doesn't want to, though thats simply the car and the mfr telling you not to really push it with a cold engine. Buying any other car on the market in the US with an Auto trans will get you the same feature you complain about on the Yaris, do your homework before you put yourself thru a lot of wasted time and money getting a new car just because of this.

[1stToyota]

That is true for sure. BUT can you see my side of this also? If you can't get out of the way it does increase your odds of getting rear ended.

If you got an idiot driving too fast behind you, or you pulled out in front of somebody and can't get out of their way, try hitting the hazard button until the engine warms up.

I don't have that problem because mines not auto, but I'm sure the feature is to protect your transmission under cold conditions...sort of like certain vehicles that protect compressors when they won't switch on when it's too cold out, or certain HP cars that won't make boost if the engine is too cold...

[elmo]

My dealership took care of that "safety issue" for me; they sold me a 5-speed. :wink:


as did mine! I wouldn't have an auto in any car i owned :biggrin:

[500snakz]

P.S. most cars with an auto trans lockout the highest gear and hold the lower gears longer when the engine is cold, like another member said, its to heat the engine up quicker by forcing it to work under a greater load untill it is warm. Every car that i've owned with a fuel injector system has been like this. Its not a safety concern, the car will go just as fast as it would with the top gear its just going to rev a lot higher to get there and may seem like it doesn't want to, though thats simply the car and the mfr telling you not to really push it with a cold engine. Buying any other car on the market in the US with an Auto trans will get you the same feature you complain about on the Yaris, do your homework before you put yourself thru a lot of wasted time and money getting a new car just because of this.

Yeah I agree...BUT most lock out OVERDRIVE on a 5 or 6 speed auto...NOT a 4 speed where you are driving in 3rd gear with the engine screaming at 40 mph...I never said anything about getting rid of this car. It's simply a safety concern that I have with this car.(And thats MY opinion) And for the so called HOMEWORK...Where is it stated anywhere that the car will not shift when the light is on ?...REMEMBER: I did not have the owners manual before I bought the car...so please tell me where it is stated? I also bought the car in JUNE in the summer when it was hot outside.
TELL ME WHERE TOYOTA SAYS ANYTHING ABOUT IT!

[Ramblin yari]

TELL ME WHERE TOYOTA SAYS ANYTHING ABOUT IT!
I can't see toyota featuring this function in TV ad anytime soon. What is the RPM at 40 mph and 3rd gear?

Recent cars I've owned with this "feature" Hyundai Elantra automatic 4 speed, Suzuki Aerio, automatic 4 speed, Kia Rondo, automatic 4 speed.

All of these had more powerful engines so getting out of the way wasn't an issue. The Aerio was the most annoying, others it was barely noticeable. I test drove the automatic trans Yaris and decided it may not be a good idea. That was not even considering the lockout feature when it was cold outside.

Solutions?
Park in a heated garage
Swap for a manual transmission Yaris

I would think all comparable cars of this size with automatic transmissions would have the same lock out and be really annoying with a small engine.

[500snakz]

What is the RPM at 40 mph and 3rd gear?

I don't know because it does not have a tach.
I really like this car but this is really annoying. I guess its an econo car thing and I will have to live with it. It is a safety issue tho.

[jambo101]

so i pressed the pedal down far, and nothing happened..so i pulled over..just checked things out, and it was fine after that.

You pushed the brake pedal to the floor and nothing happened?:eek: then you kept on driving?:eek:What did you check to give you the confidence that you wouldnt lose your brakes again?:confused:

[Forrest]

And also, does anyone have problems with the automatics not shifting after 40 mph?


Your in New Jersey and here in SE NY the winter has not really began yet. I have an automatic and have not noticed the shifting problem on cool mornings. What are you going to do when it gets really cold? Of course, I wait until the car is warmed up a few minutes so maybe that is why I have no problem. But 0 temps will be here in January / Feb so maybe you have to let your car warm up or else you have another problem?

[bronsin]

I had this happen to me on the freeway... :thumbdown:


This happened to me on a Saturn. Ive noticed my ECHO has a hook near the seat to keep the mat from bunching up under the pedal area. Course it broke off!

[b_hickman11]

What is the RPM at 40 mph and 3rd gear?

I don't know because it does not have a tach.
I really like this car but this is really annoying. I guess its an econo car thing and I will have to live with it. It is a safety issue tho.

You can have mine(j/k). I think they are pointless....even on a standard.

[Shroomster]

WELL ORIGINAL POSTER (O.P) any update?

[DefStarYaris]

I like the "warmup" mode the car enters upon starting and being cold. Keeps me from going to fast in the school one right by my apartment on the way to work.

Although I am sure all the moms in their SUV's who think they need to drive 60mph in a 25mph zone sure don't like to be behind me in the morning! :biggrin:

[Twistoffate0817]

Okay, so i took the car back to toyota, and they checked it all and ran it thru computers and such..and they came back with nothing. They claim they did nothing on my vehicle, but the brakes are 100% better now. So the brake problem is better. I have not had the problem yet, so im keeping my fingers crossed. About the acceleration issue, they said it was fine, and so far it has not done it again. Ive began letting my yaris warm up in the mornings to prevent it from happening again. (if it was due to it being cold out) I love the car, but if the problems happen again i duno what im gona do. I dont know what i can do. So just cross your fingers that its fine! :D

[Twistoffate0817]

sounds like you are accidentally placing the car in 3 instead of D when you come out of the neutral you should make sure the selector moves over to the right.

PLEASE CHECK OUT THIS SIMILAR THREAD!!! (http://yarisworld.com/forums/showthread.php?p=197547#post197547)<<<<CLICK

No i make sure its in "D" on the dashboard, and i check and look to see its to the right side.

[PaidTimeOff]

it takes like two blocks or maybe a minute or two for my car's cool temp light to go off, does anyone really live that close to a freeway that they need to be doing 40+ mph almost immediately after starting up the car? If you're driving on the freeway while any car's engine is still warming up, I think you've got more issues to worry about than just safety.

[Jem_hadar]

My dealership took care of that "safety issue" for me; they sold me a 5-speed. :wink:

Well played! :wink::biggrin:

[zombiegeisha]

That's what that light's about. I asked about it at the dealership and they didn't give any real reason, just "Your car is ok". Good to know!