Digital Gauges, Auto Climate control, Manu-matic shifter

[computerlove87]

I LOVE all of the features that certain Yaris's from various other countries have to offer. Take for example the UK Yaris SR which has digital guages, auto climate control and a manumatic transmission. Not to mention smart-key (the proximity based keyless entry that the prius has) and heated seats and a whole list of things not offered in the US and Canada. :cry::cry::cry:

My question is, how hard would it be to just locate and buy the parts needed for these 3 things?:iono:

Being a complete car modding noob, I am guessing that it would be pretty easy to swap in the digital guages, a little more diffficult to swap in the manumatic transmission (might require buying a new ecu and other electronics), and a bit harder to get the auto climate control system (might rquire a whole new a/c system, plus all the extra servos to control the recycled air control, and you would obviously have to buy the control panel, assuming it fits into the us yaris):iono:


Does anyone know about these mods/has anyone attempted them? How much success did you have with any of these 3 projects? If you did achieve the goal, please include part numbers and where you bought them from.


Please see below if you have no idea what I am talking about!:

http://http://www.yarisworld.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=15019&stc=1&d=1229323689

[jinxor]

The digital cluster is a standard here in australia....

Dont know much about the AC knobs... but it looks like a great idea....

[eTiMaGo]

digital gauges... seeing as how nobody yet has managed to swap a tach-equipped gauge cluster, i would not hold my breath on that one...

Auto climate control, pretty sure that runs off a specialized ECU, and a couple extra temperature sensors. Nobody's tried that yet!

Manumatic transmission is a possibility, you could add paddle shifters with electronics that tell the transmission ECU to change gears... I think someone mentioned a company that does these kits, but they were rather expensive...

[computerlove87]

I know no one has been able to swap in a guage cluster for a car without a tach, but the usdm yaris S's do have tachs. I am planning on getting a 2009 3 dr liftback S which DOES have a tach, so I am still holding out that it would be a simple plug n play swap. I can't imagine that buying an oem part such as a guage cluster would be TOO expensive for me to just buy and try, and who knows....

I think I know what ur saying for the auto climate control... it would probably be too much to do even with all the right parts.


Also, for the manumatic transmission, I am not talking about a 3rd party kit that wasn't designed for Yaris, I am talking about an OEM replacement that is an option on the EU Yaris. I think it is also the same transmission shared with the XB, which does have manu-matic standard for the US. I have also heard that the transmission on the yaris equipped with manu-matic is actually a CVT which has a special program which makes it simulate a 6 speed manu-matic when you put it in that mode.


In all 3 of these, I am not talking about 3rd party gear, I am talking about OEM parts, it is really just a matter of finding ALL the parts necessary and having the knowledge to put them in.

I guess I will just have to wait and see when I get my yaris, sigh.:rolleyes:

BTW, I think this is the 3rd party paddle shifters u are talking about:

http://twistmachine.com/shopping/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=13&zenid=bf5b1cd88d205e9f0f69777861a36885

For 1,700$ plus to convert from auto, and 6,000$ plus to convert from manual, I think it is safe to say that this particular piece of equip would be wasted on a car that is already good without it.

Also, on a slightly unrelated note...
Why has no one been able to swap in a tachometer, the Yaris obviously has OBD and probably CAN bus to controll its guages right? If a scanguage II can work in a Yaris, you would think that the guages are all hooked up to OBD, just maybe with a different pinout/connector for the ones with and the ones without a tach.

[Terra]

OMG I want that digital cluster.. Would a swap be possible on a Canadian `08 RS Hatch? (Standard Transmission)??

[bzinn 1]

While talking to a friend who has the xD he said the digital guages are also available in Japan for the japenese version of the xD.If there is anyone on here living over there go intothe dealership with those pictures and get part numbers......my buddy has the temperature one but that was all he was able to find so far.

[IllusionX]

many of the over sea yarii have a CVT gearbox.

[bearda]

I don't think you'd have much luck swapping in an overseas transmission, especially a CVT. The US ECU probably wouldn't be able to cope with a different transmission, and would at the least throw some sort of error code.

As for the gauges over CAN it would be possible, but there'd probably be a lot of work involved. The OBD-II port is not necessarily running the same type of CAN interface that the car uses internally. The protocol for the OBD-II port is well defines by SAE for diagnostic purposes, but the internal CAN bus that Toyota uses to make all the part of the car talk to the other probably doesn't use the same protocol. There may be other information shooting across that internal CAN bus that is different between the overseas gauge clusters and the US one.

[Midon]

I have the time, but not the cash to try this. If I had the cash I would try to get the digital tack to work with the usdm cars. I would also try to get it to work with the non Tach equipped cars. I have the time just not the cash. But from what I was seeing on my 08 hatch without the tack is all the wires are there just in different locations them from the yaris's with the tack, unless i misread the wire colors.

[Midon]

There is a werecked LB 07 yaris at the junk yard with the tach I might have to take a trip there and haggle a price and see if i cant brake this down to get it to work

[mfijaz]

Are these guages available seperately, I want to change mine....

[CTScott]

Are these guages available seperately, I want to change mine....

You have to track them down via a junkyard. I have right hand drive and left hand drive versions of the digital cluster that I purchased from junk yards in Australia (RHD) and Israel (LHD). They work fine in a US Yaris with the exception of having to extend the cables to the cluster for using one with the opposite side drive. You wouldn't want to do that though, as the display is angled to point towards the driver.

As for the electronic climate controls, that requires quite a bit more work. I actually successfully did so, but it requires also changing some wiring, the AC ECU, and the manual flap controls. Here's a video of my conversion while I was working on it:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qbInNKKEwFc

[david_827]

You have to track them down via a junkyard. I have right hand drive and left hand drive versions of the digital cluster that I purchased from junk yards in Australia (RHD) and Israel (LHD). They work fine in a US Yaris with the exception of having to extend the cables to the cluster for using one with the opposite side drive. You wouldn't want to do that though, as the display is angled to point towards the driver.

As for the electronic climate controls, that requires quite a bit more work. I actually successfully did so, but it requires also changing some wiring, the AC ECU, and the manual flap controls. Here's a video of my conversion while I was working on it:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qbInNKKEwFc

Do you by chance have the names, or the links to the israel ones?

[CTScott]

Do you by chance have the names, or the links to the israel ones?

Unfortunately they only had one Yaris and haven't gotten any more since. It was Otto Auto Parts.

[peckerhead]

I have a Canadian cluster in my '07 LB. The speedo is metric, which most people don't like, but it's got a factory tach and it works great. Bought it on ebay for $50, and it was about a 10-minute swap.

[peckerhead]

You have to track them down via a junkyard. I have right hand drive and left hand drive versions of the digital cluster that I purchased from junk yards in Australia (RHD) and Israel (LHD). They work fine in a US Yaris with the exception of having to extend the cables to the cluster for using one with the opposite side drive. You wouldn't want to do that though, as the display is angled to point towards the driver.

As for the electronic climate controls, that requires quite a bit more work. I actually successfully did so, but it requires also changing some wiring, the AC ECU, and the manual flap controls. Here's a video of my conversion while I was working on it:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qbInNKKEwFc

Do you think it'd be possible to change the way that the RHD digital cluster is angled? I'm wondering if you could swap the guts into a LHD housing, or cut/plastic weld the tabs to get it to fit a LHD car properly?

[CTScott]

Do you think it'd be possible to change the way that the RHD digital cluster is angled? I'm wondering if you could swap the guts into a LHD housing, or cut/plastic weld the tabs to get it to fit a LHD car properly?

I have both RHD and LHD digital ones that I have purchased, and the RHD ones would not be east to flip. It could be done, but it would require refabricating the entire housing for the VFD and the mirror (which is the surface that you actually view). The other issue with the RHD ones is that the connectors are on the opposite sides, so you have to lengthen about 20 or so wires to allow our LHD harness connectors to reach.

[Golddeenoh]

what about the LHD hatchback with the cluster in the middle, do you have to lengthen the wires for that one or is it plug and play?

[CTScott]

what about the LHD hatchback with the cluster in the middle, do you have to lengthen the wires for that one or is it plug and play?

The LHD is almost plug-n-play. You have to move a couple of wires around to account for the differences in the wiring with Japanese built versus French built Yaris.

[Golddeenoh]

wow you responded fast... are the gauge pods versus USDM and French that much different, and can it be set to display in MPH instead of KPH?

other note, doing this would make my wife a little jealous of there being a digital gauge in my car, as that is one of the things she wish she had in her Mustang.

[nookandcrannycar]

I have a Canadian cluster in my '07 LB. The speedo is metric, which most people don't like, but it's got a factory tach and it works great. Bought it on ebay for $50, and it was about a 10-minute swap.

:thumbsup:

[CTScott]

wow you responded fast... are the gauge pods versus USDM and French that much different, and can it be set to display in MPH instead of KPH?

other note, doing this would make my wife a little jealous of there being a digital gauge in my car, as that is one of the things she wish she had in her Mustang.

Some are switchable, and some are not (depending on the area they were intended for). If you got one that was not, my KM to Mile conversion device would work for the digital cluster as well as the analog one.