WATER IN THE ENGINE?

[falkor_99]

So I have CAI and i had to trim my wheel wells cuz i was rubbing. And now i think that water is getting sucked in? How can i be sure of this? Coming to work today i was stuck at a light and then it turned green and i gave it some gas and it felt like it struggled a bit, almost as if it was bogging out? :iono:

WHAT DO I DO?!?!?!? I FREAKING OUT!!!!

[ddongbap]

You'll be fine. As long as it doesn't take a gulp of water. If its running, its running. When your engine suddenly stops, then theres a potential problem.

[Tamago]

take off the CAI (it really does not yield any real power) and go to a short ram

and by all means if it happens again, DO NOT REV THE ENGINE.. pull over, remove your spark plugs and crank the engine to ensure the water is pushed out..

even a little bit of water will result in a fracture of your connecting rods..

don't be surprised if you pop the engine in the next 6 months. i recommend cleaning the throttle body and intake runners before this happens or toyota is gonna deny your warranty

[Chupacabra]

CAI's are such a waste in these cars. My recommendation is to revert to your stock airbox and throw the CAI away. Company's make a killing off of these things....they take about $10 to make excluding the filter and they charge a hundred or more and it's likely that you are losing torque as a result. The paper element keeps your engine cleaner as well.

[ddongbap]

There are some levels of h2o in the gasoline in your car anyways. Thats why using super old gas isn't recommended. I forget the reasons why, but they're legit reasons.

Small, additional levels of h2o in your engine isn't bad. Just not recommended. Too much of it is bad.

But like Florida boy says, get a shortram. I'll probably one up that, and just tell you to stick with the stock airbox.

[falkor_99]

Cuz this happened before i was going home in the rain and the next morn i drive to work and its fine and then when i was leaving i was backing out and the car just died!!! i turned it off then started it up again and the same thing happened??!!?

[ddongbap]

Cuz this happened before i was going home in the rain and the next morn i drive to work and its fine and then when i was leaving i was backing out and the car just died!!! i turned it off then started it up again and the same thing happened??!!?

Maybe your MAF isn't liking it.

Btw, where are all you anti intake people?!!!

I never get any support in the intake threads, when I tell people it isn't exactly worth it.

[ddongbap]

Btw, I'm loving the rains down here in OC, aren't you? Besides the CAI problem.

[falkor_99]

Indeed i am loving the rain....but i just dont want to die on the freeway!!! So should i switch the intake back to stock?

Whats the MAF>

[ddongbap]

Indeed i am loving the rain....but i just dont want to die on the freeway!!! So should i switch the intake back to stock?

Whats the MAF>

I mean MAS. I think. I'm confusing my self now, I was about to say Air Flow Meter.

Btw, The sirens have been going off all morning. I'm scared someone'll hit me, since most people don't exactly understand the relationship between water and grip.

[falkor_99]

yeah i already saw a bunch of fender benders. Now im thinking of going home and changing it out.....

[ddongbap]

yeah i already saw a bunch of fender benders. Now im thinking of going home and changing it out.....

Yea dude, I'd just rock the stock airbox. I'd be doing the same, but I lost my stock filter. I don't wanna pony up the money to buy a new filter till my ghetto intake filter gets old.

[falkor_99]

man.....that sucks cuz i love the way it sounds and looks.....not cool i guess ill have to do that then =( that makes me sad :frown:

[Tamago]

I mean MAS. I think. I'm confusing my self now, I was about to say Air Flow Meter.


you had it right the first time. MAF

Mass Airflow Sensor

it's not affected by water (it's sealed)

[falkor_99]

Well i left work and went home and as i was doing that i was bogging big time. So i put back the stock intake :frown: and now i dont have that cool sound anymore. But maybe i can see how the mileage goes now =P

[FunctionSpec]

How much of the fenderliner did you trim off?

[falkor_99]

if you are in the wheel well and looking toward the front bumper, i took about 1.5 inches in toward the engine, but its all on the left side all the way to the fender. I didnt think a that much water got in there but when i took off the filter it was drenched.

[slvryaris]

I had a problem with my AEM intake getting wet and I replaced it with the stock air box. I am currently doing a little project from swapping back and forth with the AEM and the stock box with the stock filter and then to a K&N drop in filter. To much avail there is almost no increase in MPG. I am going by number of miles on the tank when the fuel indicator bar starts flashing. They are all looking at about 36 MPG when the bar starts to blink. Only difference in them is there seems to be a little bit more power on take off with the K&N drop in and the AEM versus the stock filter.

I would watch it closely. I was told by someone at AEM that it would not get wet unless you went into a pond. I would try a short ram which is what I may end up going to.

ANY VENDORS HAVING SALES ON SHORT RAMS AND CAN HOOK A BROTHER UP??

[cali yaris]

The aFe is a nice replacement for the stock box, keeps the filter protected while increasing airflow.

My air filter off the turbo is way down towards the bottom of the engine. We will probably re-route the piping when we put her back in the shop -- made me nervous on the way to work today.

With regards to water in the motor being dangerours, aren't there water injection systems? :iono: someone 'splain that, please.

[falkor_99]

yeah thats what i want to watch now too. cuz right when i got my yaris i put on the CAI so i wasnt really able to tell the mileage with out it.

[thebarber]

i thought water injection just sprayed a mist on an intercooler to help cool the air down even more....

if your filter was drenched, thatd explain the bogging

dryflow ftw? lol

id put the fender liner back in or get a short ram intake.....stock airbox for now

i cant belive youd run a cai with no fender liner though....yeesh

[Split]

if the filter is soaked, it'll struggle to draw air through it. it'll struggle, but it won't hurt it.
if the filter is completely submerged in water, that's when you're in trouble. trimming the fender liner will get the filter soaked, but it doesnt make a difference for hydrolock.

[06silveryaris]

man.....that sucks cuz i love the way it sounds and looks.....not cool i guess ill have to do that then =( that makes me sad :frown:


You can make a hole on the stock air box if you want to make it loud. The hole needs to be on the bottom half. That is what i did to my airbox looks stock but sounds quite mean and I am using the paper filter.

[dvldoc]

The aFe is a nice replacement for the stock box, keeps the filter protected while increasing airflow.

My air filter off the turbo is way down towards the bottom of the engine. We will probably re-route the piping when we put her back in the shop -- made me nervous on the way to work today.

With regards to water in the motor being dangerours, aren't there water injection systems? :iono: someone 'splain that, please.


For one, Water injection works very well especially in forced induction engines. The thing that you are most likely getting is that you have gotten the MAF sensor wet and if you have a K&N style oiled filter have transferred some of that oil onto the sensor which is very sensitive.

What people fail to realize for every gallon of gas you burn you vehicle produces up to or more than that amount in water on it's own. It's part of internal combustion, and is no big secret. People tend to say all these crazy things about water simply because they do not know the chemistry behind internal combustion. If they did they would stop getting suckered into HHO generators :cry:

Even a stock Yaris could handle a .50gph water injection nozzle and would run just fine. This is coming from someone who knows a little about alcohol/water injection. :evil: Turbo it and water injection is a great way to go.

[Tamago]

For one, Water injection works very well especially in forced induction engines. The thing that you are most likely getting is that you have gotten the MAF sensor wet and if you have a K&N style oiled filter have transferred some of that oil onto the sensor which is very sensitive.

What people fail to realize for every gallon of gas you burn you vehicle produces up to or more than that amount in water on it's own. It's part of internal combustion, and is no big secret. People tend to say all these crazy things about water simply because they do not know the chemistry behind internal combustion. If they did they would stop getting suckered into HHO generators :cry:

Even a stock Yaris could handle a .50gph water injection nozzle and would run just fine. This is coming from someone who knows a little about alcohol/water injection. :evil: Turbo it and water injection is a great way to go.

atomized water will not cause issues..

but water sucked off the ground is not atomized...

[yaris-me]

You can clean your MAS by shooting some "Brakleen" on it. If the MAS has oil on it from the air filter it can affect performance.

[Tamago]

You can clean your MAS by shooting some "Brakleen" on it. If the MAS has oil on it from the air filter it can affect performance.

BRAKLEEN is simply awful to be spraying on plastic parts... use soap and water

[gid]

you get condensation in oil from hot engine cooling in cold weather and collects in pan . Thus , oil looses some performance .

[TheSilkySmooth]

you get condensation in oil from hot engine cooling in cold weather and collects in pan . Thus , oil looses performance . now for a complete change of pace. How much do you want for that dead parrot you have there. Yes the One with its feet stapled to the perch. Very, very NICE, but a bit smelly, aint She?

On yet another subject, mr GID, I thought that the piston blowby water vapour condensed into the cold oil. If the oil was above boiling for a goodly period, all the H-O-H will have evapourated off and suctioned by the PCV sytem. Now, there would be none left to condense onto cold metal.

- Papa

[gid]

are you feeling o.k.? You've been a bit testy lately :biggrin: .

[ddongbap]

now for a complete change of pace. How much do you want for that dead parrot you have there. Yes the One with its feet stapled to the perch. Very, very NICE, but a bit smelly, aint She?

On yet another subject, mr GID, I thought that the piston blowby water vapour condensed into the cold oil. If the oil was above boiling for a goodly period, all the H-O-H will have evapourated off and suctioned by the PCV sytem. Now, there would be none left to condense onto cold metal.

- Papa

Crack that whip, daddy.

[gid]

moisture in oil , especially on short daily trips . :wink:

[auxmike]

now for a complete change of pace. How much do you want for that dead parrot you have there. Yes the One with its feet stapled to the perch. Very, very NICE, but a bit smelly, aint She?
- Papa


Dang,
Sounds like something Hannibal Lecter would say....

[gid]

is that not from the " dead parrot " stick by MONTY PYTHON ? :biggrin: Here it is www.youtube.com/watch?v=KO1T7b07I7E . :thumbsup:

[TheSilkySmooth]

is that not from the " dead parrot " stick by MONTY PYTHON ? :biggrin: Here it is www.youtube.com/watch?v=KO1T7b07I7E . :thumbsup:
It was a (very bad) backward spin on part of the sketch, but of course, M.P. was M-U-C-H better. Also, "ARGUMENTS" and the exploding penquin on the telie.

cool about finding that:w00t:

[gid]

I've been having YOUTUBE seizures along with U.O.A. withdrawals ( shakes , etc. ) . :wink:

[TheSilkySmooth]

I've been having YOUTUBE seizures along with U.O.A. withdrawals ( shakes , etc. ) . :wink:
Sorta like the "DOOM" ps1 seizures I used to get a decade ago. That nasty thing is locked in the closet.:eek:

[gid]

" Race of the Twits " is my favorite MONTY PYTHON skit , www.youtube.com/watch?v=rCyr1ugzxXM , everyones a TWIT at one time or another :biggrin: .

[gid]

one day at a time , is a manic world that we live in .

[Doug007]

Maybe your MAF isn't liking it.

Btw, where are all you anti intake people?!!!

I never get any support in the intake threads, when I tell people it isn't exactly worth it.

I'll agree with you. I had an CAI in my Mustang and never noticed much difference except it tended to run lean. I've gone with the K&N drop in filter and have been happy.