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33lam
12-18-2008, 12:33 PM
I am looking for new spark plug for my car....but i am struggling of which model should i get...coz they have NGK Iritop 8, 7, etc etc...i know 8 is for Nissan....so wt about Yaris??? :bow:
turboyaris
12-18-2008, 01:37 PM
don't they come with denso iridiums? mine did
mikenacarato
12-18-2008, 01:40 PM
mine had ngk iridiums, i have hks ("beefed" up denso plugs) in there now though
slvryaris
12-18-2008, 02:38 PM
Called the dealership and Nippon Denso Plugs are $21 a piece. Seems a little pricey to me. A guy on here put those pulse plugs on his and burned something up due to excessive heat.
What does the car call for because there is a hundred different plugs for this thing??
ddongbap
12-18-2008, 02:45 PM
Prob w/e Toyota recommends.
mikenacarato
12-18-2008, 02:47 PM
the pulstar plugs foul the coil pack because they draw excessive power through the coil. if you had okada coils you would be ok.
LtNoogie
12-18-2008, 03:05 PM
I'm using NGK BKR7EIX Iridium Spark Plugs. These are heat range 7 which is what is recommended for forced induction engines. If I read the literature correctly, they draw more heat from the combustion chamber and lessen the tendency to have pre-ignition (knocking).
They were not very expensive.
turboyaris
12-19-2008, 12:01 AM
just go to autozone or whatever for the plugs... and give them the actual part number.. itll be closer to 10$ if not less per plug, plus iridiums are good for something silly like 60k or 100k i can't remember
slvryaris
12-19-2008, 01:43 AM
Ya the OEM numbers they call for are:
DENSO SK16R11
NGK IFR5A11
yarstar
12-19-2008, 08:12 AM
Here's a question: How long should I go before I replace the original plugs??
Midon
12-19-2008, 12:03 PM
Check them at 15k miles, but you should be good. Really check them at 30k. They may need to be replaced at 30k, but I doubt it. Just check every 30k miles after the first 30k. I always recommend checking at 15k cause you never know how a new motor will react. IE piston ring's not seating right away. If that happens they allow oil into the combustion chamber fouling the plugs. Now this is very very unlikely but you can never be to cautious. Also if you notice hard starting, or hesitation while trying to pass someone on the highway have your plugs check out this may indicate a problem with them.
Hope that helped. Also if your worried about your warranty just take your car to the shop for it's regular service and they check them when it's time.
Loren
12-19-2008, 12:14 PM
The OE plugs are really GREAT plugs, and under "normal" driving they should last 100k miles. (so they say... at least 50k)
But, my experience with them after a fair amount of track use (lots of time at or near the redline, almost constant full-throttle acceleration for 20-40 minutes at a time) was that one of them started giving high-rpm misfires at about 18,000 miles.
If you're just using the car for commuting and general driving, don't waste your time and money on spark plugs until/unless the computer throws a CEL for misfires. You're just throwing money away. And then, if you get 50k or more out of the OE plugs, the were obviously a good choice... replace with the same!
If you do any sort of competition on a regular basis, you're better off switching to a standard (not iridium, not platinum, not unobtanium) NGK plug and just changing them every 10-20k. There is SO little performance to be gained by using uber-expensive plugs, it's just not worth it.
Midon
12-19-2008, 12:29 PM
The OE plugs are really GREAT plugs, and under "normal" driving they should last 100k miles. (so they say... at least 50k)
If you do any sort of competition on a regular basis, you're better off switching to a standard (not iridium, not platinum, not unobtanium) NGK plug and just changing them every 10-20k. There is SO little performance to be gained by using uber-expensive plugs, it's just not worth it.
Totally and 100% agree with this statement.
Violin
12-19-2008, 12:29 PM
From the service manual:
yarstar
12-19-2008, 11:18 PM
When Loren says something.....I listen.
Thanks Loren. :respekt:
slvryaris
12-20-2008, 04:30 AM
Ya the manual says to only replace them with iridium tip. I want to know why in the world some plugs say pre gapped and not to gap them then some people say always to check the gap. My car has about 67,000 miles on the stock plugs and it still fires up fine. I need to check mine but I am afraid I will mess something up when I take them out to look at them.
Does anyone know any place that carries Denso like Autozone, Napa, Advanced Auto or any auto parts stores like those? Online it said they didnt carry them.
slvryaris
12-20-2008, 04:56 AM
I know this sounds retarded but has anyone done a DIY for changing the plugs?
Violin
12-20-2008, 08:56 AM
Does anyone know any place that carries Denso like Autozone, Napa, Advanced Auto or any auto parts stores like those? Online it said they didnt carry them.
I ordered mine from www.sparkplugs.com
If not for the snow, they would have been here yesterday. I've got a little over 70,000 miles and my mpg has dropped a bit lately so I figured it couldn't hurt to change them.
It looks like a simple job in the service manual. I'll try to remember to take a couple of photos.
slvryaris
12-21-2008, 01:12 AM
Thanks Violin. What plugs and part number and manufacturer did you go with? I have been reading about if NGK or Denso plugs are better. I am going to order some but just don't know which ones to get. O reilly pulled up the NGK Iridium IX BKR5EIX is what came up for the Yaris, but they couldn't get the Denso.
slvryaris
12-21-2008, 08:47 AM
Thats weird....The NGK plug our manual shows as OEM is IFR5A11 is not found on www.sparkplugs.com it is IFR5T11. I wonder if these are the same. Advanced Auto Parts shows they have these for $6.99.
Then the Denso plug SK16R11 just shows as a Iridium Long Life plug and shows the
PK16R11 as the OEM equivalent and its not even iridium tip.
Violin
12-21-2008, 09:44 AM
The NGK BKR5EIX is not the long-life version. The Denso PK16R11 is a platinum plug.
I went with the Denso SK16R11 from sparkplugs.com.
auxmike
12-21-2008, 10:41 AM
When I'm ready for plugs I'm going straight to the dealer's parts desk!:thumbsup:
Violin
12-21-2008, 07:38 PM
Be prepared to pay $14 per plug.
auxmike
12-21-2008, 08:29 PM
Be prepared to pay $14 per plug.
I'll be shopping at an internet dealers "parts counter"!:bellyroll:
I've found they are usually MUCH cheaper......!
slvryaris
12-21-2008, 11:36 PM
Denso at the dealer I called were $21 a piece. Since the SK Denso's are gapped at .044 that means they will not need to be gapped since that is 1.1mm is that correct??
I guess the NGK number is IFR5T11 now. From what it said on Advanced website the NGK had a 3 year warranty and Denso said 3 month. Can anyone interject on which brand is better? They are both Laser Iridium Long Life plugs.
slvryaris
12-23-2008, 04:40 PM
The NGK plugs I got were the IFR5T11 which I am guessing is the IFR5A11 but a different number since it says they are the OEM replacement.
The only problem is the NGK plug is gapped at .032 sooooo I am guessing I need to widen the gap on these puppies. Some of the guys at Advanced said I shouldnt gap them since they are Iridium plugs, but the service manual says new plugs should be .039 to .043 in.
So in theory I should widen this gap?? Also why does on www.sparkplugs.com show that the OE gap is .032 but when you highlight the product to the right of it is a picture of the plug and the specs on it and then at the bottom of the specs it says .044" (1.1mm) Gap
Extreme Long Life Laser Iridium Plug, 14mm Thread, 19mm (3/4") Reach, 5/8" (16mm) Hex Size, Gasket Seat, Resistor, Solid Terminal, Projected Tip, Iridium Tipped Fine Wire Center Electrode with Platinum Tipped Ground Electrode, .044" (1.1mm) Gap
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