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superfly78209
12-20-2008, 01:05 AM
ok.. i know what you all say about ebay performance chips.. but I was reading this..
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/A-PERFORMANCE-CHIP-TOYOTA-YARIS-2007-2009-BEST_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trkparmsZ72Q3a1419Q7c66Q3a 1Q7c65Q3a12Q7c39Q3a1Q7c240Q3a1318Q7c301Q3a0Q7c293Q 3a1Q7c294Q3a25QQ_trksidZp3286Q2ec0Q2em14QQhashZite m260324996675QQitemZ260324996675QQptZMotorsQ5fCarQ 5fTruckQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories

Then I thought.. hmm.. let me look at his feedback score... wow.. no negatives.. let me read the feedbacks

"really works"
"amazing"
etc. etc.

So then I read 30 day money back guarantee..

Now I'm wondering. This has to work.. is it bad for your engine and how does it actually work? What do you all think?

ztrack157
12-20-2008, 01:11 AM
I have magic fairy dust That will help you reach 200mph in 6 seconds for $30.00. I also have perfect feedback on ebay as well.

superfly78209
12-20-2008, 01:15 AM
.. dont be sarcastic.. im not a gullible person.. dude.. your not being smart.. if you think 250 people bought this product and say it didnt work... he has 100 percent feedback.. NO ONE thought it was a bad deal.. im sure some car enthusiasts bought some of them for the heck of it.. or there had to even be one skeptic.. but no.. nothing.

ztrack157
12-20-2008, 01:21 AM
um I can easily sell myself 200 of my own products. Feedback scores don't mean jack. These things do not work. Save your money.

".. dont be sarcastic.. im not a gullible person.. dude.. your not being smart."

And yes my friend your are. Read what you wrote in your first post. If your so sure it will work then buy it, then find out it doesn't work and then get your refund. If it works I will promptly crap my pants and apologize.

superfly78209
12-20-2008, 01:25 AM
well.. i mean for a 30 day money back guarantee.. why not? i dont want to risk hurting my engine.. i heard a lot of those chips lie to your ecu and give different readings then are present.. such as air temp and etc. otherwise i would go for it.

superfly78209
12-20-2008, 01:26 AM
i was j/w if anyone knew what the chips actually "do" if they "do" much at all.. and apparently they do something.. just dont know what it is.

ztrack157
12-20-2008, 01:28 AM
Our ECU is extremely hard to crack and no one has manage to have success with it. With a learning ECU even if there was a change the ECU would work its way around said chip if it were to work in the first place.

_S7V7N_
12-20-2008, 01:31 AM
Item as described just didn't work for me.
ma87k5 ( 90 [Feedback score is 50 to 99] )
Nov-05-08 06:22
REAL PERFORMANCE CHIP CHEVY TAHOE 93-09 GAS SAVER (#260295765593)

Super fast shipping added horsepower great throttle response no mpg gain???
saylor2008 ( 15 [Feedback score is 10 to 49] )
Oct-28-08 09:20
REAL PERFORMANCE CHIP CHEVY SILVERADO 2008 FUEL SAVER (#260297071081)

And we know he's a fast shipper, i would check into it some more bro, wait a few days after installing so you can give him a fair rating on the product, and if you do try to return it see how he does with the refund, the posting looks kinda shady cause he refers to the " auction listed above" vs a specific model in the actual product description.

cali yaris
12-20-2008, 01:34 AM
I can't stand it -- I'm going to buy one of these just to be able to prove it doesn't do anything.

I need all of these:

Lengthens the life or your engine belts by reducing RPM's

higher top speed

help your vehicle to pass smog and emissions regulations

1NZYaris1
12-20-2008, 01:36 AM
If this is the same as what they normally are !
it is only a diode that is placed between twoo wires ,
and it tricks the ecu into thinking engine is cold ,
resulting in higher fuel burn hence more hp.
something like that anyway.:laugh:

_S7V7N_
12-20-2008, 01:36 AM
Lol Cali, see if he gives ya a refund when you tell him it's a hoax.

quote " engineered specifically for all years of the auction vehicle in title" quote he don't even specify. it's a magic chip .

cali yaris
12-20-2008, 01:39 AM
you will not need to use premium fuel, although it does help our chip work even better

OK, so.... do we have an engineer on here that can open it up and analyze the circuit? Just for fun?

cali yaris
12-20-2008, 01:42 AM
umm.... I FRIGGING BOUGHT THE DAMN THING :evil:


YouTube vids forthcoming, folks....

_S7V7N_
12-20-2008, 01:45 AM
your yaris ain't gonna know how to act now ;)

ztrack157
12-20-2008, 01:45 AM
I'm getting an engineering degree.

ztrack157
12-20-2008, 01:48 AM
1NZ is correct they are principally a diode that tricks the ECU. However will not trick ours? Garm I'd say open it and take pictures for me but then no refund. Honestly I think this one is just a loop that goes into place maintaining the circuit without doing a damn thing.

1NZYaris1
12-20-2008, 01:49 AM
umm.... I FRIGGING BOUGHT THE DAMN THING :evil:


YouTube vids forthcoming, folks....

:help:Oh well you can sell it with your used parts , when you recieve it,
or you could pull it apart and make them your self to sell to others :laugh::laugh::laugh::burnrubber::help:

ztrack157
12-20-2008, 01:49 AM
Waiting for the youtube vids Garm. And thank you for shipping my grill out so fast. It should be here monday.

1NZYaris1
12-20-2008, 01:51 AM
1NZ is correct they are principally a diode that tricks the ECU. However will not trick ours? Garm I'd say open it and take pictures for me but then no refund. Honestly I think this one is just a loop that goes into place maintaining the circuit without doing a damn thing.

They will trick the yaris, thats what your warnning light on the dash is saying ,every time you start your car from cold.
did i say that right oh well:respekt:

ztrack157
12-20-2008, 01:58 AM
Magic Fairy dust still for sale. lol. Well its really just meth to make everything seem faster.

1NZYaris1
12-20-2008, 02:00 AM
Magic Fairy dust still for sale. lol. Well its really just meth to make everything seem faster.

:laughabove:Sorry but it wouldn't make it through Custom's :laugh::laugh:

ztrack157
12-20-2008, 02:02 AM
Oh yes it would! lol just put bear scat in to scare the dogs.

superfly78209
12-20-2008, 02:08 AM
wow this is awesome.. cali keep us updated.

cali yaris
12-20-2008, 02:22 AM
hehe, alright - let's settle this. And I don't care about returning it, I'm opening the thing up after I play with it.

1NZYaris1
12-20-2008, 02:24 AM
hehe, alright - let's settle this. And I don't care about returning it, I'm opening the thing up after I play with it.

We require photo proof , :laugh: when it arrives and apart:thumbup:

until then :burnrubber:

ztrack157
12-20-2008, 02:29 AM
Ok sweet Garm is the man after all. Even though hes a vendor he needs moderator status he is a guru.

richardholdener
12-20-2008, 02:53 AM
Hows this for an offer-you get your car and this magic product to either of the dynos (here in Vegas or in palmdale0 and I will test this for free. We can monitor the air/fuel and timing values before and after and see what it does-if anything. That way there is no speculation. I don't want to hear it felt better-I want real data. Let me know Cali.

1NZYaris1
12-20-2008, 03:00 AM
Hows this for an offer-you get your car and this magic product to either of the dynos (here in Vegas or in palmdale0 and I will test this for free. We can monitor the air/fuel and timing values before and after and see what it does-if anything. That way there is no speculation. I don't want to hear it felt better-I want real data. Let me know Cali.

You the man ,here's your chance Garm ,to dyno you beast :clap::clap::drool:

ztrack157
12-20-2008, 03:21 AM
Thanks Richard. Let the myth be cracked. Now if you'd only sell me one of the prototype intakes. :)

mikenacarato
12-20-2008, 04:18 AM
you want a placebo to take with this too? these modules are all bs..every last one of them (not talking about real engine management systems and such though)

and please spare me the "oh and you know this from experience?" part. i DO know from experience.

Loren
12-20-2008, 11:21 AM
There is no "circuit", it's just a resistor in a fancy box. It is installed inline with the intake air temp sensor and causes the ECU to read the temperature as lower than actual. Since cooler air is more dense, this makes the ECU "see" that more air has gone into the cylinder and it injects more fuel. A slightly richer mixture can give more power under some circumstances. But, this only happens at full-throttle or during warm-up when the ECU is not in closed-loop operation. In closed loop, O2 sensor feedback will correct the error induced by the faulty temp data.

So, it "might" give you slightly more power when you get on it, but there's no way it's going to improve fuel economy.

That's all there is to it.

richardholdener
12-20-2008, 01:08 PM
Altering the IAT value to show colder inlet air temp can also increase ignition timing.

There is no "circuit", it's just a resistor in a fancy box. It is installed inline with the intake air temp sensor and causes the ECU to read the temperature as lower than actual. Since cooler air is more dense, this makes the ECU "see" that more air has gone into the cylinder and it injects more fuel. A slightly richer mixture can give more power under some circumstances. But, this only happens at full-throttle or during warm-up when the ECU is not in closed-loop operation. In closed loop, O2 sensor feedback will correct the error induced by the faulty temp data.

So, it "might" give you slightly more power when you get on it, but there's no way it's going to improve fuel economy.

That's all there is to it.

nemelek
12-20-2008, 01:53 PM
Unless it is a company like Edge or Banks making these chips, I wouldn't put much value on their claims. Sometimes even a chip mod will make you become your own warrantee. Toyota might deny claims.

Loren
12-20-2008, 10:00 PM
Altering the IAT value to show colder inlet air temp can also increase ignition timing.

Good point, Richard.

Treyz
12-21-2008, 12:35 AM
Looking at the dyno sheet numbers, they don't even touch 100+ HP gains. Basically, people that don't know much about cars or are noobs at tuning go ahead and buy these so called products. As mentioned before, the ECU on our cars are tough to crack hence why there is no eprom upgrade and you need a piggyback system (i.e. AEM, Greddy, etc).

mikenacarato
12-21-2008, 01:09 AM
i read the auction and the only thing i agree with is the first sentence of the second Q and A question...you get what you pay for...

cali yaris
12-21-2008, 01:26 AM
Basically, people that don't know much about cars or are noobs at tuning go ahead and buy these so called products.

LOL, I resemble that remark, seeing that I just bought one.

mikenacarato
12-21-2008, 01:36 AM
well at least you know what your doing garm. im sure you got it to prove to everyone that they wont work. :)

btw i just got something from your store.

shomesta
12-22-2008, 08:36 AM
i good point. I just paid your invoice for df210's that i bought. can you pls advise me when you will ship? thanks!

nsmitchell
12-22-2008, 08:46 AM
This looks like an interesting and entertaining thread... I can't wait for the pics!

justjesus
12-22-2008, 06:45 PM
umm.... I FRIGGING BOUGHT THE DAMN THING :evil:

YouTube vids forthcoming, folks....

WOW, thanks for stepping up on this one!

Leaving my car to Richard for prototyping intake manifolds, I can do. Trying out some who-knows-what chip from ebay, I'd be worried as heck.

cali yaris
12-22-2008, 07:25 PM
I just paid your invoice for df210's that i bought. can you pls advise me when you will ship? thanks!

what a strange place to post that. Your PM is answered and your springs shipped today.

cali yaris
12-22-2008, 10:08 PM
http://thumbs.ebaystatic.com/pict/260326679654.jpg

1NZYaris1
12-22-2008, 11:23 PM
http://thumbs.ebaystatic.com/pict/260326679654.jpg
:help::help::help::help::help::help::help::help::h elp::help::help::help::help:
:laughabove::laughabove::laughabove::laughabove:
did i miss anything, oh yeah:laughabove::laughabove::laughabove:
:bow::bellyroll::bow::bellyroll::bow::bellyroll:

Treyz
12-22-2008, 11:37 PM
Garm, when's the expected delivery?

CTScott
12-23-2008, 08:47 AM
OK, so.... do we have an engineer on here that can open it up and analyze the circuit? Just for fun?

I just noticed this thread. I'm an Electrical Engineer, so I can do the analysis if you'd like (that is if there's anything more than a resistor or diode to look at)...

YarisSedan
12-23-2008, 04:21 PM
Wow I want a extra 100 horsepower and 30 percent increase in gas milage.

AND i wont have to change my oil as much and will make my transmission smoother shifting. I mean is there anything this little chip cant do?

nsmitchell
12-23-2008, 05:05 PM
It also adds 4 more cylinders and a turbo!

cali yaris
12-24-2008, 03:31 AM
well, I'd like to see if it can make a decent latte. :rolleyes:

1NZYaris1
12-24-2008, 05:25 AM
I just noticed this thread. I'm an Electrical Engineer, so I can do the analysis if you'd like (that is if there's anything more than a resistor or diode to look at)...


:rolleyes: Prefer pretty woman , if you could manage that instead. :laugh:
:smoking::drool::drinking::smoking:

Thej3sta2
12-24-2008, 07:31 PM
you know i poured the freaze dried SP*** of chuck norris into the gas and BAM 900hp yaris.

cali yaris
12-24-2008, 08:37 PM
It came today. :laugh:

eTiMaGo
12-25-2008, 02:15 AM
and now the fun begins :laugh:

ztrack157
12-25-2008, 02:37 AM
you know i poured the freaze dried SP*** of chuck norris into the gas and BAM 900hp yaris.

Haha you mean 9,000hp. Funny thing is I'm the only guy on the forum who has taken a dump in the stall next to chuck norris. When he flushed the plumbing blew.

superfly78209
12-25-2008, 03:59 PM
haha I can't wait.. tell me how it goes.

TheRealEnth
12-25-2008, 04:50 PM
So did the chip give u awesomeness power yet?

Sodium Duck
12-25-2008, 10:17 PM
He must not have written back because when he installed it, it was all like, Back to the Future, and now he's lost in another time period!

Chupacabra
12-26-2008, 09:01 AM
He must not have written back because when he installed it, it was all like, Back to the Future, and now he's lost in another time period!

Ha...ha. Either that or he's stuck on the side of the road somewhere.:thumbup:

nsmitchell
12-26-2008, 10:59 AM
Just in time for Christmas. Make sure not to floor it or you might wind up in a ditch, or speeding tickets out the wazoo! Be careful!

cali yaris
12-26-2008, 12:58 PM
Make sure not to floor it or you might wind up in a ditch, or speeding tickets out the wazoo!

haha, that's true WITHOUT the chip!

I haven't played with it yet, got a dinner party to throw tonight, gotta clean the house. :frown:

cali yaris
12-26-2008, 01:00 PM
First thing to point out is that it comes with bare wires, they make it look like "plug 'n play". it isn't. So I'll have to tap into my wiring to try and use this. Hmmmph.

http://i439.photobucket.com/albums/qq115/techhelp1000/chip.jpg

Sodium Duck
12-26-2008, 01:28 PM
uhhhmmmm..... lol

at3GG
12-26-2008, 02:21 PM
booo!!! they wont mind lol

Treyz
12-26-2008, 02:51 PM
In the auction, the picture shown (above) has the quick connects on it as well so you know it's a wire tap. I think its the MAF wires you tap into if I'm not mstaken lol.

mastaofdisasta
12-27-2008, 12:35 AM
omg garm hurry up and give use the results >< ill buy them. but only if it gives you 20hp anything less is just unnacceptable. XD

mikenacarato
12-27-2008, 02:10 AM
results?

_S7V7N_
12-29-2008, 12:03 AM
when you open it up make sure you keep the hamster that leaps out of it.

http://i232.photobucket.com/albums/ee171/dark_mess1ah/mygifsandstuff/hamster.gif ='s http://i439.photobucket.com/albums/qq115/techhelp1000/chip.jpg

ztrack157
12-29-2008, 02:48 AM
:laughabove:

1NZYaris1
12-29-2008, 04:44 AM
:biggrin: GARM are you there yet :bellyroll: green earth is cheaper if you live in the country side:bellyroll::laughabove: :burnrubber:

Results are ????????? awaiting a visit to Richard :bow:

bearda
12-29-2008, 01:27 PM
What do the install instructions look like? Same old two-wire IAT BS?

This is the one that piques my curiosity:
http://yhst-19807630266082.stores.yahoo.net/

I'm seen these on and off, and I'm 100% sure they're fake. They throw around a lot of fancy terms, but it seems like what they're claiming to do just isn't possible (the map never gets sent over the OBD-II port, so how is it being overridden?). Still, it's the most sophisticated fake I've seen yet and I kind of want to dump the ROM on it just to see what it IS doing....

Crossbow
12-30-2008, 11:44 AM
It should be noted, that in this day and age, car manufacturers are erroring on the side of "rich" fuel mixtures to meet EPA2 regulations for emissions. Because of this, any additional increase in fuel mixture will tend to reduce power, decrease mileage, and cause various drivability issues (especially in lower rpm's, hesitation, bogging), as well as covering the back of your car in soot.

Most of your power gains in EPA2 vehicles are from LEANING your fuel mixtures out, not richening them. (Of course a bit of fuel added around the torque peak tends to help a bit).

Now looking at the yaris dyno's, it looks like the average person is running around a 12:1 around redline. Could probably lean that out to 12.5:1 or even 13:1 for additional power. Most people will agree richening that to a 11.5 or 11:1 isn't going to get you any ponies! (But at least your A/F isn't a mazda 9.7:1 Ratio!!!).

I wouldn't be surprised if most of the header/exhaust/intake dyno power gains are just from adjusting your A/F, and are only partially effected by flow. (Flow mods tend to lean out the A/F)

cali yaris
12-30-2008, 03:27 PM
Haven't installed it yet, I'm going to wait until we can dyno before/after. As long as I'm doing this, might as well debunk it thoroughly.

at3GG
12-31-2008, 07:19 AM
haha this is actually way TOO interesting. It shouldnt be but dammit it is!

*MAD DOG*
12-31-2008, 07:48 AM
Watching with interest. There are plenty of people in Australia (not me) who have installed these "chips" in their V6's and V8's and swear that they give the car more power and better fuel economy. Over here you can buy Power gain chips, economy gain chips, reg fuel chips, premium fuel chips and the list goes on.

I've always been skeptical about these chips as they probably void warranty and maybe even car insurance (if you install you need to tell your insurance everything).

mickymouse
12-31-2008, 08:05 AM
but these aren't even chips :-(

If they really would be chips.. somehting could happen... but this way

nsmitchell
12-31-2008, 04:16 PM
The suspense is killing me! Seriously!!!

nsmitchell
01-07-2009, 01:42 PM
Hello... Cali Yaris... are you there? :iono:

Did the power surge launch you into a tree or something? :wink:

We need results and internal pics of this awesome "chip"/"magic box".:smile:

Please post results soon! :thumbsup:

ChinoCharles
01-07-2009, 01:47 PM
Once you pop...

nsmitchell
01-07-2009, 01:57 PM
...can't stop!

*MAD DOG*
01-07-2009, 06:24 PM
Any further news on this Garm?

YAR1S
01-07-2009, 06:43 PM
gawd.... now im anxious to see the results... thanks A LOT.......

Treyz
01-07-2009, 09:55 PM
Ahhh crap .. I forgot to ask him this when I talked to him earlier.

superfly78209
01-13-2009, 01:56 PM
come on?! bros

cali yaris
01-13-2009, 02:08 PM
hooked it up -- didn't do a damn thing.

I did NOT put it on a dyno yet, I'm not dyno-ing the car just for that. When we re-tune the car, I'll do a before and after to prove that it's crap.

After that, my Dremel and I are going to have us some fun...

at3GG
01-13-2009, 02:53 PM
i know its says increased power..better mileage yada yada yada....does it ever says how it supposed to accomplish this anyway? lol

cali yaris
01-13-2009, 03:27 PM
does it ever says how it supposed to accomplish this anyway?

no but the information has been posted in this thread :smile:

at3GG
01-14-2009, 12:14 PM
ahh my bad ....found it

Shroomster
01-14-2009, 12:57 PM
no but the information has been posted in this thread :smile:

so how did ya install it? are you going to have to run new lead wires if you tapped, for when you remove it?

*MAD DOG*
02-20-2009, 09:30 AM
hooked it up -- didn't do a damn thing.

I did NOT put it on a dyno yet, I'm not dyno-ing the car just for that. When we re-tune the car, I'll do a before and after to prove that it's crap.

After that, my Dremel and I are going to have us some fun...

Any further progress on this Garm?

cali yaris
02-20-2009, 12:33 PM
At this point, my stock wiring is all out of the car, so rigorous dyno testing of this may not be possible. I'll just leave it with "didn't do a thing for me". Yes, I tapped the wires to "install".

I'll take it apart when I get a few minutes -- with pics, of course.

TheRealEnth
02-20-2009, 01:53 PM
stupid chips

PHXDEMON
02-20-2009, 03:13 PM
Can't wait to see pics of this thing hacked open with a dremel :laugh:

1NZYaris1
02-20-2009, 05:37 PM
:eek: A sledge hammer would be easier . :laugh:

cali yaris
02-20-2009, 10:08 PM
Here you go...

seems pretty substantial... nice case and everything...is it really a whole chip?

http://www.microimageonline.com/images/misc/chip-1.jpg

and....


and....

http://www.microimageonline.com/images/misc/chip-2.jpg

NO CHIP!! just a resistor. :cry:

The packaging and the contents -- too funny:

http://www.microimageonline.com/images/misc/chip-3.jpg

CTScott
02-20-2009, 10:14 PM
That is a riot! Where did they have you connect said "chip"?

It's quite sad as well that they don't even solder the resistor to the wire - just twist the leads around the wire.

1NZYaris1
02-20-2009, 10:14 PM
:biggrin: 20 cent resister , $19.80 for the box and a bit of wire , sounds like a bargin ,
so how many are you going to hold in stock , for the honda guy's of course.:laugh:


:eek:

supmet
02-20-2009, 10:15 PM
NO CHIP!! just a resistor. :cry:


you broke the magical fairy dust resistor!!!! nooooooooooo!

yaris-me
02-20-2009, 10:55 PM
[QUOTE=cali yaris;247637]Here you go...

seems pretty substantial... nice case and everything...is it really a whole chip?

NO CHIP!! just a resistor. :cry:

The packaging and the contents -- too funny:

Thanks Garm for your help in making us wiser. :smile:

cali yaris
02-20-2009, 11:37 PM
my pleasure -- really! ... this made me smile today.

cali yaris
02-20-2009, 11:39 PM
1NZYaris1, I already charged your PayPal account and it's on its way. I heard this performance chip works especially well with Kiwi cars. :laugh:

id3379
02-21-2009, 12:47 AM
:biggrin: 20 cent resister , $19.80 for the box and a bit of wire , sounds like a bargin ,
so how many are you going to hold in stock , for the honda guy's of course.:laugh:


:eek:


that 33k resistor is actually only 8 cents

http://mouser.com/Search/ProductDetail.aspx?qs=sGAEpiMZZMsCQIGbZVRXMDjFC59A wxV6L53UfNMqu4M%3d

2 cents if you buy a reel of 5000.

*MAD DOG*
02-21-2009, 01:39 AM
That is hilarious. Do you want to go into production on these? We could get Thomas to get them made in Thailand Cheep Cheep. Call them "Mega Nitrous Booster Chips" and then have a second one called "Mega MPG Gain Chip"

For an 8 cent resistor and a 50 cent casing and 50 cents worth of wires for $20 US plus shipping we could make a fortune!

Shroomster
02-21-2009, 02:28 AM
That is hilarious. Do you want to go into production on these? We could get Thomas to get them made in Thailand Cheep Cheep. Call them "Mega Nitrous Booster Chips" and then have a second one called "Mega MPG Gain Chip"

For an 8 cent resistor and a 50 cent casing and 50 cents worth of wires for $20 US plus shipping we could make a fortune!

you're forgetting:

packaging
branding
patents/copyrighting (legal reasons)
the sticker that is on the case

not trying to burst your bubble but say goodbye to more than 75% of that sweet overhead.....

LtNoogie
02-21-2009, 02:47 AM
This made me wonder what was under the cover of my supercharger. To my horror, I found that I too had been duped. Doh!!

http://i426.photobucket.com/albums/pp346/LtNoogie/scchip.gif

id3379
02-21-2009, 03:02 AM
This made me wonder what was under the cover of my supercharger. To my horror, I found that I too had been duped. Doh!!

http://i426.photobucket.com/albums/pp346/LtNoogie/scchip.gif

dude..that's priceless. :clap:

TheRealEnth
02-21-2009, 03:52 AM
LMFAO>..... That would be a rip!

PHXDEMON
02-21-2009, 05:53 AM
:laugh::laugh::laugh:

1NZYaris1
02-21-2009, 06:29 AM
that 33k resistor is actually only 8 cents

http://mouser.com/Search/ProductDetail.aspx?qs=sGAEpiMZZMsCQIGbZVRXMDjFC59A wxV6L53UfNMqu4M%3d

2 cents if you buy a reel of 5000.


Thats 8 cents US so in kiwi ($ New Zealand) terms its close to 20 cents :biggrin:

1NZYaris1
02-21-2009, 06:31 AM
1NZYaris1, I already charged your PayPal account and it's on its way. I heard this performance chip works especially well with Kiwi cars. :laugh:

EXP if your where to send a S/C with it :biggrin:

*MAD DOG*
02-21-2009, 06:05 PM
Thats 8 cents US so in kiwi ($ New Zealand) terms its close to 20 cents :biggrin:

8 cents US is almost a Kiwi Dollar innit???? :laugh:

supmet
02-21-2009, 07:52 PM
you're forgetting:

packaging
branding
patents/copyrighting (legal reasons)
the sticker that is on the case

not trying to burst your bubble but say goodbye to more than 75% of that sweet overhead.....

not trying to burst your bubble, but he was joking. And scamomatic, inc. doesn't tend to care about branding and patents/copyrights. But you're right, the sticker and packaging bring it up to a dollar.

*MAD DOG*
02-21-2009, 08:55 PM
not trying to burst your bubble, but he was joking. And scamomatic, inc. doesn't tend to care about branding and patents/copyrights. But you're right, the sticker and packaging bring it up to a dollar.

Thanks. It a shame when the obvious needs to be spoken by a third party for a joke to be understood. At least you and I are laughing :laugh:

FryGuy
02-24-2009, 12:41 PM
Here you go...

seems pretty substantial... nice case and everything...is it really a whole chip?

"........................... Pictures Removed from Quote .................................."

NO CHIP!! just a resistor. :cry:

The packaging and the contents -- too funny:

http://www.microimageonline.com/images/misc/chip-3.jpg

:laughabove:
Not just any resistor, Its a 33k ohm 1/2 watts resistor!
Cost about $0.01 each from digikey.

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Shroomster
02-24-2009, 10:57 PM
Thanks. It a shame when the obvious needs to be spoken by a third party for a joke to be understood. At least you and I are laughing :laugh:

:rolleyes: guess some of my humor is too dry even for you MD

Arkhangel
02-25-2009, 10:27 PM
found another performance chip

a bit more expensive at $89
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/2008-08-Toyota-Belta-OBD-Performance-Flasher-Chip_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp3286Q2em20Q2el1116 QQitemZ220351553469QQptZMotorsQ5fCarQ5fTruckQ5fPar tsQ5fAccessories

ztrack157
02-25-2009, 10:52 PM
Garm you should get your refund from them now.

*MAD DOG*
02-26-2009, 01:32 AM
Garm you should get your refund from them now.

How much did you spend on the thing? Maybe you should sent it back and demand a full refund including postage and say the one they sent was faulty, it only had a cap in it!

andruboz
02-26-2009, 09:15 AM
ooh... that fancy new chip costs so much more cause it has 3 leds and an old eprom they bought from a electronic salvage place.

http://lib.store.yahoo.net/lib/yhst-19807630266082/vp12white.jpg

actooly, i'm thinkin the led's are photochopped. that looks like the 33k on the lower left..

JBougie
03-21-2009, 03:49 AM
No way. The fancy new chip is so much more because this one really works!

...lol

cali yaris
03-21-2009, 04:46 AM
oohhh... it's 20 MHz.. oohhhhhh

1NZYaris1
03-21-2009, 04:51 AM
oohhh... it's 20 MHz.. oohhhhhh

Quick , quick buy it , i will test this one for you with a 20 pound hammer.:laugh:

Treyz
03-21-2009, 10:34 AM
Garm, gonna do it again?

CtrlAltDefeat
03-21-2009, 11:10 AM
Garm, gonna do it again?

gah, we can't ask for that kind of investment...:eek:

Treyz
03-21-2009, 11:11 AM
Lol , I know.

CtrlAltDefeat
03-21-2009, 11:27 AM
donations any one? lol

JBougie
03-21-2009, 12:53 PM
I got $10 on it if we start a collection to get that sucker

You should a post a link to the research thread on these idiots feedback. lol Maybe it will save some clueless kids from thinking they are going to have a Ferrari Yaris haha

yaris-me
03-21-2009, 03:02 PM
I got $10 on it if we start a collection to get that sucker

You should a post a link to the research thread on these idiots feedback. lol Maybe it will save some clueless kids from thinking they are going to have a Ferrari Yaris haha

I'm in. If Garm is going to do it.:smile:

yaris-me
03-21-2009, 03:14 PM
Found these threads. The BMW actually lost HP.

http://www.nissanclub.com/forums/new-2007-nissan-altima-discussion/267648-volo-performance-chip-07-08-altima.html

http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/showthread.php?p=3607655

:thumbdown:

cali yaris
03-21-2009, 03:24 PM
LOL, I like how I get "chosen" for these things. Sorry guys, I have a bit much going on at the moment, and I'll be out of town next week -- maybe after that!

RUFFSTUFF
08-06-2009, 04:19 PM
That is a riot! Where did they have you connect said "chip"?

It's quite sad as well that they don't even solder the resistor to the wire - just twist the leads around the wire.


It's called wire wrapping and it's actually a technique that's used often in smaller electronics...

CTScott
08-06-2009, 04:25 PM
It's called wire wrapping and it's actually a technique that's used often in smaller electronics...

For prototyping only - Not for production.

RUFFSTUFF
08-06-2009, 11:08 PM
For prototyping only - Not for production.

Well, we definitely use it in some of our reactor monitoring systems... That, and I teach how to do it, among other things...

etheliters
08-09-2009, 12:34 AM
Well, we definitely use it in some of our reactor monitoring systems... That, and I teach how to do it, among other things...

so can you tell us how it works?

andru47
10-18-2009, 11:28 PM
We should make our own and brand them and sell sell sell!

chongopants
10-31-2009, 10:34 AM
yeah this is pretty common, there isn't a real chip that i have seen work...