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Jansen
01-02-2009, 08:48 PM
Looking for any rims similar to Borbet LV4, Fastwheels Vice, or Blitz BRW Profile 08.

Trying to find a lightweight 17" wheel like this, but they are all around 19-23 pounds. Might have to go with a 16" wheel.

PreciousPups4U
01-02-2009, 09:02 PM
Love the Borbets. Like the 8 spoke look and no extra holes.

Jill (dvlnblkdrs) has those on hers now. I am sure she can give you more info on those if you need it.

cali yaris
01-02-2009, 09:13 PM
I think the Borbets are heavier than what the OP is looking for, but he wants the multi-spoke, no-lip, light weight deal.

PreciousPups4U
01-02-2009, 09:16 PM
I think the Borbets are heavier than what the OP is looking for, but he wants the multi-spoke, no-lip, light weight deal.

Yes Garm, I know, but being female I really think "pretty" is the most important thing.:wink:

Do lighter wheels really make that much difference?

thebarber
01-02-2009, 09:24 PM
Do lighter wheels really make that much difference?

yes.

cali yaris
01-02-2009, 10:20 PM
+2 yes they do

kimona
01-02-2009, 11:32 PM
Do lighter wheels really make that much difference?

Well... if you're looking at 9lb wheels vs. 23lb wheels, then the answer is definitely yes. However, with most inexpensive aftermarket wheel applications, the answer is realistically... no "significant" difference... and far too many make far too much about the wheel weight issue.

Black Yaris
01-03-2009, 12:55 AM
Motegi SP10's look nice and do not weigh much
http://www.motegiracing.com/applicationguide/motegiimages/mega/m2747.jpg
I had them on my Yaris and they looked hot

ripcurl
01-03-2009, 08:39 AM
hope i could help click this site of ROTA WHEELS

http://www.rotawheels.com/wheelcatalog.asp

Jansen
01-03-2009, 09:50 AM
I think the Borbets are heavier than what the OP is looking for, but he wants the multi-spoke, no-lip, light weight deal.

Exactly, if there was a lightweight forged version I would pick that up.

I was considering the Kosei K1 TS because it only weighs 14 pounds, and the Kyowa Racing KR595 Gunmetal, but I don't want it to look too exposed. I like the bold look of the Borbet's, and don't want too much space because I will probably have painted calipers behind it.

Too much open space shows off the calipers too much, but the Borbets will offer a flirty little peek without being in your face about it.

Jansen
01-03-2009, 09:55 AM
Motegi SP10's look nice and do not weigh much
http://www.motegiracing.com/applicationguide/motegiimages/mega/m2747.jpg
I had them on my Yaris and they looked hot

At 17.2 lbs for the 17" rims it isn't bad, but 10 spokes to me look a little messy. I like 8 spokes because it looks balanced and symmetrical, if you can look at it that way, kinda like a Norman cross.

I liked the colour when I first came across it, but like it is not my style. I would rather go 6 spoke than 10.

Jansen
01-03-2009, 10:06 AM
Well... if you're looking at 9lb wheels vs. 23lb wheels, then the answer is definitely yes. However, with most inexpensive aftermarket wheel applications, the answer is realistically... no "significant" difference... and far too many make far too much about the wheel weight issue.

MY concern is unsprung weight in regards to acceleration and braking.

The tires I want are Yokohama AVID H4S 205/40R17 at 22lbs, the Borbets weight 21.5.

The stock alloy rims with tires weight 34 lbs, so my weight increase is 28%.

My choices right now are to go with a 6 spoke wheel (the KR595 is 5 pounds lighter), go for the Borbet, go down to a 16" rim, or wait for the new spring lineups to come out.

thebarber
01-03-2009, 02:10 PM
a couple of things confuse me about your statements. you dont want to see TOO much of the calipers, but you want 17's....which will really show off how tiny the stock brakes and calipers are....

you also want to minimize unsprung weight, but again want 17's....which are generally heaver and push weight further out from the wheels' center.

all that aside, get light rims. oem 15" alloys are about 18lbs by themselves. personally, the best combonation of looks and performance would be light weight 16's....not TOO much tire, but enough to maintain more comfort, AND likely easier to find lighter ones....

i notice a HUGE difference in acceleration and braking going from my 14" steelies w/ 185-60-14 and crandalls car w/ 17's and 215-40-17

yar..yarr
01-03-2009, 05:04 PM
Anyone know the weight for the Blitz BRW08 in 17x7?

kimona
01-03-2009, 06:49 PM
At 17.2 lbs for the 17" rims it isn't bad, but 10 spokes to me look a little messy. I like 8 spokes because it looks balanced and symmetrical, if you can look at it that way, kinda like a Norman cross.

I liked the colour when I first came across it, but like it is not my style. I would rather go 6 spoke than 10.

Here's a 12-spoke and a split 6-spoke. Looks pretty good.

Jansen
01-03-2009, 08:44 PM
Anyone know the weight for the Blitz BRW08 in 17x7?

Closest I can find is the 17x9, comes in at 24.25 lbs.
17x9 +35, 5x114.3

Black Yaris
01-03-2009, 08:48 PM
Here's a 12-spoke and a split 6-spoke. Looks pretty good.

I like the 10+ spoke design as well

Jansen
01-03-2009, 09:04 PM
a couple of things confuse me about your statements. you dont want to see TOO much of the calipers, but you want 17's....which will really show off how tiny the stock brakes and calipers are....

you also want to minimize unsprung weight, but again want 17's....which are generally heaver and push weight further out from the wheels' center.

all that aside, get light rims. oem 15" alloys are about 18lbs by themselves. personally, the best combonation of looks and performance would be light weight 16's....not TOO much tire, but enough to maintain more comfort, AND likely easier to find lighter ones....

i notice a HUGE difference in acceleration and braking going from my 14" steelies w/ 185-60-14 and crandalls car w/ 17's and 215-40-17

What's so confusing? I want to have 17" wheels, but I want a lightweight 17 so that I can mitigate the negative effects of a larger size.

I would like a big brake upgrade later, but the pics I've seen so far don't look too bad with stock brakes. I like the look of a thicker spoke, and don't want thin spokes.

What tire and wheel combination is Crandall using? That makes all the difference. If I went for 17" General Altimax HP 205-40/R17 with Kosei K1 TS it would weight 32 lbs, 2 pounds lighter than stock 15" alloys.

Black Yaris
01-03-2009, 09:57 PM
thin spokes is where it's at

Black Yaris
01-03-2009, 10:02 PM
there is always the favorite Konig Feather
http://shopping.netsuite.com/core/media/media.nl?id=5629&c=275188&h=6e8a11b46ffaf6b0f087
16.8lbs in a 17

kimona
01-03-2009, 10:13 PM
A wider 9-spoke:

thebarber
01-03-2009, 10:23 PM
What's so confusing? I want to have 17" wheels, but I want a lightweight 17 so that I can mitigate the negative effects of a larger size.

I would like a big brake upgrade later, but the pics I've seen so far don't look too bad with stock brakes. I like the look of a thicker spoke, and don't want thin spokes.

What tire and wheel combination is Crandall using? That makes all the difference. If I went for 17" General Altimax HP 205-40/R17 with Kosei K1 TS it would weight 32 lbs, 2 pounds lighter than stock 15" alloys.

i dig, i dig

he's got tenzo-r somethingorothers...i think theyre 18lbs a rim and has general exclaim uhp tires in 215-40-17

i threw his RS rims on my car to go to a meet in boston one time and noticed a minor difference from my 14's to the 15's....(keeping in mind that i noticed a BIG difference between my 14's and his 17's)

but 17's sure look sharp!

Tamago
01-03-2009, 10:27 PM
I think the Borbets are heavier than what the OP is looking for, but he wants the multi-spoke, no-lip, light weight deal.

it has a lip but.. i've always loved this wheel

http://www.1010tires.com/images/wheels/super/konig_again4_opal_lg_super.jpg

Jansen
01-03-2009, 10:27 PM
there is always the favorite Konig Feather
16.8lbs in a 17

It's on my list.

PRODUCT CODE: FE77100405
BOLT PATTERN: 4x100
HUBBORE: 73
OFFSET: 40
WHEEL SIZE: 7x17

Black Yaris
01-03-2009, 10:29 PM
there are a few members with the feathers.... they are light.... possibly too thin of a spoke for ya, but they are fairly inexpensive though

Jansen
01-03-2009, 10:43 PM
i dig, i dig

he's got tenzo-r somethingorothers...i think theyre 18lbs a rim and has general exclaim uhp tires in 215-40-17

i threw his RS rims on my car to go to a meet in boston one time and noticed a minor difference from my 14's to the 15's....(keeping in mind that i noticed a BIG difference between my 14's and his 17's)

but 17's sure look sharp!

TR says 18lbs for those tires, total weight is only 36lbs ?!?!
Did the weight shift to the outside really affect it that much?

Jansen
01-03-2009, 10:49 PM
it has a lip but.. i've always loved this wheel



Wow, that IS nice. Just found this:

König – Again 4 17 x 7 16.8 lbs. ET40 Offset

I have nothing against rims with lips, just really like the look and colour of the Borbet LV4. The KR595 that I'm considering also has a similar colour, which I think would look good against the Flint Mica.

thebarber
01-04-2009, 01:00 AM
TR says 18lbs for those tires, total weight is only 36lbs ?!?!
Did the weight shift to the outside really affect it that much?

i guess so...

all i know is, my car is much peppier...

im likely to get 15's when/if i upgrade from 14's....

phenoyz
01-05-2009, 02:48 AM
there is always the favorite Konig Feather
http://shopping.netsuite.com/core/media/media.nl?id=5629&c=275188&h=6e8a11b46ffaf6b0f087
16.8lbs in a 17


HHHmmmmmmm... :cool: :cool: :cool:

bzinn 1
01-05-2009, 03:19 AM
Here is the best site I have found with wheel sizes and actual weights

wheelweights.net

Also remember differant tires of the same size are differant weights.My Nitto's on my tC are 22lbs while the same size Toyo's on the scale were 23.5