MT-90'd the gearbox today...

[Chupacabra]

I replaced my gearbox fluid with Redline MT-90 today. It was simple...required no jacking of the car and the quantity was exactly 2 quarts. My impressions after a short drive is that...it's not much different but certainly noticeable. All gears appear a touch easier to engage, most of all first, second and reverse. Overall, a good modification for $25.

[Tamago]

good job :D

and that's only 9more dollars than typical gear oil.. i run lucas 80W90 with no issues either.. then again i AM on trans#3 lol

[PetersRedYaris]

I'm lovin the MT-90 also...

[at3GG]

Using Royal Purple here...also just slightly noticeable, but definately smoother

[gid]

MT-90 working its magic so far . Better cold shifting and no clunk into reverse . Found that when 1st made the switch to MT-90 that it's good to work through all the gears and gets bit better over time .

[Chupacabra]

MT-90 working its magic so far . Better cold shifting and no clunk into reverse . Found that when 1 st switch to MT-90 it's good to work through all the gears and gets bit better over time .

Awesome...I figured it'd only get better as I went for a short ride. :clap:

[gid]

Awesome...I figured it'd only get better as I went for a short ride. :clap: let us know if the shifting improves and the clunk into reverse gets less or goes away over a period of time . :burnrubber:

[gid]

I would like to try the AMSOIL MTG ( GL-4 , 75w-90 ) in the future .

[Chupacabra]

Actually went for a drive today and noticed that the shifting is much improved. Much smoother shifts and the reverse clunk is gone. It just seems to slide right into reverse now.

[gid]

praise the bottle of REDLINE MT-90 :bow: . You'll find frigid morning shifts to be easier than the stock gear oil and gets smoother much sooner than the conventional . No grinding when downshifting , especially down to 1st . :thumbsup: . Enjoy

[Chupacabra]

I have never downshifted into first gear but I wanted to update this thread because the difference in the gearbox is worth ranting about. By switching to the MT-90....shifting if phenomenal. I can't stress enough how good of an upgrade this is. Reverse is butter and so are all the other gears. It just seems to get better every time I drive.

[marcus]

i got amsoil for months now but i havent put it in yet...too lazy..

[Chupacabra]

i got amsoil for months now but i havent put it in yet...too lazy..


Get it in there....the difference is amazing and you'll thank yourself for it.:drinking:

[gid]

I changed it with another dose of the MT-90 at 10,000 miles as a flush , that way would be all synthetic . Probably change it again at 60,000 miles or so . That may be the AMSOIL MTG , also GL-4 and 75w-90 .

[marcus]

i will...this weekend..

by the way im not liking the mobil1 synthetic on my engine.. tracking mpg and still showing it dropped down switching over..never gonna use mobil1 ever again..

[ROCKLAND TOYOTA]

i will...this weekend..

by the way im not liking the mobil1 synthetic on my engine.. tracking mpg and still showing it dropped down switching over..never gonna use mobil1 ever again..
im a mobil one user since 1000 miles. what are you gonna use next as im open foe something new......

[marcus]

amsoil... a lot less detergents use compare to mobil1...also higher flash point as well..

[nick.dollimount]

Hey all,

I have my car scheduled for it oil change for Monday morning. My shifting has gotten really rough and hard to put into gears. I told the guy last time but he basically ignored it. Now it's worse... so I made sure when I called them that they completely understood that there is an issue with my shifting and I want it fixed. I also mentioned the guy dismissing it the previous time. So I really don't know a WHOLE lot about cars... enough to get around. From this thread, I gather that the gear box has separate oil that needs to be changed to keep shifting smooth? Should I mention this to them? But I don't want to say anything if I don't know what I'm talking about...

:iono:

[Chupacabra]

Hey all,

I have my car scheduled for it oil change for Monday morning. My shifting has gotten really rough and hard to put into gears. I told the guy last time but he basically ignored it. Now it's worse... so I made sure when I called them that they completely understood that there is an issue with my shifting and I want it fixed. I also mentioned the guy dismissing it the previous time. So I really don't know a WHOLE lot about cars... enough to get around. From this thread, I gather that the gear box has separate oil that needs to be changed to keep shifting smooth? Should I mention this to them? But I don't want to say anything if I don't know what I'm talking about...

:iono:

Yes...the gearbox contains it's own fluid. Toyota states that it's a 100K mile serviceable item but no fluid should be left that long. The shifting shouldn't be bad with the stock fluid but it's definitely smoother with the MT-90. Demand that they drive the car and ensure that the gearbox is functioning as it should.

[nick.dollimount]

Ok, that definitely is a good idea. You really can't tell parked putting it from gear to gear after the first one. But when you're driving... it's not very nice. Thanks! =)

[gid]

since you're in frigid north the gear oil thickens making for poor shifting , etc.. If possible get 2 quarts of 75w-90 GL-4 synthetic gear oil such as REDLINE MT-90 ( www.redlineoil.com/products_gearlubricants.asp?productID=46&subCategoryID=17%categoryID=7 , < than $14 a qt. ) , AMSOIL MTG , www.amsoil.com/storefront/mtg.aspx , < than $14 a qt. ) or PENNZOIL GL-4 synthetic ( www.pennzoil.com/products/gear_oil/index.html#SyntheticGear , < than $12 a qt. (?)) you'll notice a big difference on those very cold days . The REDLINE and AMSOIL gear oils are a true synthetic , the PENNZOIL is not . Try to stay away from GL-5 gear oil , it'll make your driving experience even less pleasing . Know this for a fact when used MOBIL 1 GL-5 synthetic gear oil in a 2000 Chevy PRIZM ( Corolla ) . I have the MT-90 in our '08 L.B. and shifts are quite easy when car has been sitting in temps of 25 degrees or less . The switch to synthetic is well worth the money . Let us know how it works out . GOOD LUCK

[suiller]

switched here too to MT-90, simply it's a MUST with all croppy Valeo shift

[R2D2]

As gid says the Yaris MT calls for a GL-4 gear oil-DO NOT use a GL-5 as it can affect performance or even be damaging to any soft metals in the tranny. The metals in some GL-4 applications don't like the high levels of sulfur that is used to give some GL-5 lubes their extreme pressure properties. The sulfur is what gives gear lubes their signature odor.

R2

[R2D2]

amsoil... a lot less detergents use compare to mobil1...

Just curious which Amsoil and Mobil 1 products you are referring to and why you believe Amsoil is less detergent?

TIA

R2

[DerFlosser]

R2,
Not pertinent to your question above but I switched to Redline MT-90 and have drained the box twice as to get all synthetic in there. WOW....what a difference shifting is with this stuff. It shifts like butter....

Car only has 5,900 miles on it so....I'll probably change the gearbox fluid again at 15K miles just for ha ha's.....then let it go for a while.

[R2D2]

DerFlosser,

Yes Redline's gear/transmission lubes are widely liked and respected-I don't doubt for a second they are a noticeable upgrade. The MT-90 is GL-4 so your good to go. Your plan sounds like a good one-I usually do similar on new transmissions and differentials to get to break in metals flushed out.

R2

[MUSKOKA800]

Hey all,

I have my car scheduled for it oil change for Monday morning. My shifting has gotten really rough and hard to put into gears. I told the guy last time but he basically ignored it. Now it's worse... so I made sure when I called them that they completely understood that there is an issue with my shifting and I want it fixed. I also mentioned the guy dismissing it the previous time. So I really don't know a WHOLE lot about cars... enough to get around. From this thread, I gather that the gear box has separate oil that needs to be changed to keep shifting smooth? Should I mention this to them? But I don't want to say anything if I don't know what I'm talking about...

:iono:


DIY, it's a no brainer / five minute job. I recall seeing a step-by-step process posted here somewhere.
The stealership will charge a fortune. An independant garage less perhaps but still not worth the time and expense.

[schleppy]

How much does the tranny take? I've changed tranny fluid in other cars and I'm used to the "fill it on level ground until it drains out the fill hole"

[talnlnky]

I replaced my gearbox fluid with Redline MT-90 today. It was simple...required no jacking of the car and the quantity was exactly 2 quarts. My impressions after a short drive is that...it's not much different but certainly noticeable. All gears appear a touch easier to engage, most of all first, second and reverse. Overall, a good modification for $25.

I'd just like to say .... You have the coolest name on this forum! I love the chupacabra... yes!

I've been contemplating doing the fluid switch myself.... i'm at 32k miles... maybe i'll do it next summer when i'm around 50k.

[schleppy]

Can anyone fill me in (pun intended) on how much fluid to use? I know the shop manual specifies an amount (1.7quarts?), but is it the kind where you have to pour in the perfect amount, or the kind where you pour in fluid until it leaks out the fill hole?

Thanks!

[Jem_hadar]

I wish I could buy MT-90 locally! :frown: Cant get that mess anywhere in or around Collingwood where I live in Canada!

Apparently some shops in Toronto sell it, but its 2-2.5 hours south of me... and its simply not worth the drive down to the city in $$ and time just to pick up some gear oil

If i get some, ill hafta wait till im down there anyways and make a detour on the way home to try and purchase it.

Or i can order it online off Amazon.COM for $11 US a quart... but shipping to Canada is fucking $15-20... and ill bet ill be hit with stupid duty too... adding another ~ $10 to the cost...

Not sure its worth it to try to score this redline gear oil for my car with another 20-30 bucks added to the cost!?

What do yall think? Worth it even at around $50 for 2 quarts ???

[suiller]

I wish I could buy MT-90 locally! :frown: Cant get that mess anywhere in or around Collingwood where I live in Canada!

Apparently some shops in Toronto sell it, but its 2-2.5 hours south of me... and its simply not worth the drive down to the city in $$ and time just to pick up some gear oil

If i get some, ill hafta wait till im down there anyways and make a detour on the way home to try and purchase it.

Or i can order it online off Amazon.COM for $11 US a quart... but shipping to Canada is fucking $15-20... and ill bet ill be hit with stupid duty too... adding another ~ $10 to the cost...

Not sure its worth it to try to score this redline gear oil for my car with another 20-30 bucks added to the cost!?

What do yall think? Worth it even at around $50 for 2 quarts ???

also here in italy is very hard to find but I had a good deal on ebay.co.uk... just my 2 cents ;)

[ROCKLAND TOYOTA]

i did my trans fluid swap last year sometime. how often should i be changing this?

[suiller]

I do it about every 10/15k miles, generally I try to do it together with motor oil change, keep in mind that I use the car at 99% in urban streets, probably making a sort of 50:50 (between city & highway) you can retard the change

[Lafiro]

Is everyone here using a manual tranny?

Im on an automatic, and I was wondering how to change the tranny oil out. Got her since day one, and the car has around 54k miles on it now. Want to change the tranny oil to the best that I can put in there (since an extra $1-3 a quart really isn't a big deal).

Is there a DIY for this?

Thanks....

[bronsin]

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Not sure its worth it to try to score this redline gear oil for my car with another 20-30 bucks added to the cost!?

What do yall think? Worth it even at around $50 for 2 quarts ???

I have news for you. All these companies get their oil from the same oil tank located in Houston TX. The only difference is the bottle they put it in/the food color they add (red, purple etc)
Once I put conventional transmission oil in my ECHO. Worked great in the summer. When winter came on a cold morning it would barely shift gears until you drove like 5 miles! I had the guy add some more food coloring (orange I think) and NO PROBLEM!

[schleppy]

I have some AMSOIL 75w90 SVG gear oil on the way. Looking forward to putting it in.

Edit: Despite that fact that AMSOIL's site (and a technical rep I emailed) said that the SVG will work in both GL-4 and GL-5 boxes, and is fine for my Yaris, I'm still nervous using it. I may see if I can swap it for the straight GL-4 AMSOIL fluid. Thoughts anyone?

[suiller]

I made a mix (about 80:20) between RedLine MT-90 & MTL, the gearbox definitively feels better & changing gear also on high rpms isn't a problem any more even if I noticed that on heavy load, for example when I push the car very hard for 20/30 minutes, it's noticeable the "slippering" effect... so I was thinking to flush & change again but this time going to test Amsoil GL4 75w90

I think that the severe gear grade is too strong for our transmission, I think I'll stay with standard GL4 Amsoil grade... GMT or GTM right now I don't remember the exact name

what is your opinion on usgin Amsoil GL4 instead of the Severe grade??

[Lazerdot]

I'll be using Amsoil SVG 75w90 as I'm due to drain the factory stuff. I think GL 5 is recommended in my owners manual, 08 yaris, so that's what I got. Plus AX works the car a bit harder sometimes.
I hope you'll consider Trulube.com as your Amsoil dealer.

[bronsin]

I have some AMSOIL 75w90 SVG gear oil on the way. Looking forward to putting it in.

Edit: Despite that fact that AMSOIL's site (and a technical rep I emailed) said that the SVG will work in both GL-4 and GL-5 boxes, and is fine for my Yaris, I'm still nervous using it. I may see if I can swap it for the straight GL-4 AMSOIL fluid. Thoughts anyone?


GL5 has sulpher which will dammage transmissions speced for GL4. (makes sulpheric acid) GL4 trannys have copper etc whcih will be destroyed by GL5 stuff.
Your trials are meaningless since real tests of lubricants last for hundreds of thousands (if not millions) of miles.

[Hershey]

agree , stay away from GL-5 . Used MOBIL synthetic GL-5 in a COROLLA that made shifting difficult ( grinding ) and going into reverse a chore ( clunking ) . Stick with a GL- 4 , much better results .

[UTVitz]

Been there and tried GL-5 too in my transmission by mistake, had to drain it out-total waist of $16 of mobile one gear oil. Ended up going with Redline MT-90 which is GL-4 and recommended for Toyota gear boxes. Just stick with any GL-4

[suiller]

I'll be using Amsoil SVG 75w90 as I'm due to drain the factory stuff. I think GL 5 is recommended in my owners manual, 08 yaris, so that's what I got. Plus AX works the car a bit harder sometimes.
I hope you'll consider Trulube.com as your Amsoil dealer.

I would consider but I can't because apparently they don't ship outside US & right now I'm in italy :help:

it's almost impossible to find amsoil products outside US, for me it would OK also getting from UK, De, Fr, Ir... every other nation in europe

[Lazerdot]

I'd love to get over your way for a vacation!

Sorry About the shipping issue.

Have fun with car!

[DerFlosser]

MT-90 is the best stuff at the best price....

[Lazerdot]

If ordered direct from me at Greg@TruLube.com I can ship stuff but not sure the cost or best shipper. I use paypal so that end is covered. Just and option for you guys overseas.
Checkout TruLube.com to decide what you need and let me know by the e-mail included.

Greg

[suiller]

damn... if I think that 10 days ago I was in NY...

[suiller]

so the Amsoil 75w90 SVG even if specified as both GL4/5 by the dealer can't be used in a GL4 spec gearbox?? a bit confused...

[Lazerdot]

Since I AX and do track days and since my 08 recommends both, I'm using Amsoil SVG 75w-90.

[suiller]

Since I AX and do track days and since my 08 recommends both, I'm using Amsoil SVG 75w-90.

so your manual says "GL4 or GL5" ?? very strange... they are almost incompatible each other

[Lazerdot]

Yup, confusing but still recommend. My understanding when looking at the SVG 75w-90 is it should be used under harser conditions. Otherwise I would have used the Amsoil GL4.
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