Why does everyone compare the Yaris vs Fit...

[b_hickman11]

Why does everyone compare the Yaris vs the Fit rather than the Civic?? The Civic gets better mpg's than the Fit and they are basically the same starting price. I think the Yaris Sedan is more like the base Civic than a base fit.

[mikenacarato]

yaris hatch to fit maybe...idk why that comparison became standard.

why do they compare the evo to sti all the time?

[Thirty-Nine]

Nowadays, the xD and Fit should be compared. Speaking of which ...

Scion to Honda: The Fit is No (http://www.subcompactculture.com/2009/01/scion-says-fit-is-no.html)

[JBIZZ]

same size

[PaidTimeOff]

Because the Civic is categorized as a "compact" while both the Fit and Yaris are categorized as "sub-compacts?"

[Kal-El]

People always compare models within intended segments. In this case, these two cars are the two entry level sub-compacts so that makes them automatic competitors. Problem is, Honda can't build a cheap car anymore so what we have is everyone screaming that the Fit is better while ignoring the actual prices.

Yes, the Fit's truest competitor is the xD. It matches up in just about every way: size, price, power, standard features, both 5-door hatches, available navi, ect.

But hey, Toyota simply offers many more car options than Honda. With Honda, you have the choice of the Fit or the Fit. While Toyota offers the Yaris sedan, 3 door LB, 5 door LB, Scion xD, Scion xB (still less than top line Fit).

[puetato89]

yup
yaris/fit
corolla/civic
camry,accord

[ECHOKnight2000]

Granted there are other cars in this segment. The Fit is the closest competitor on size, price (depending on model) and features for the most part. Also mpg. And its Toyota's or one of Toyota's arch rival.:thumbsup:

[Thirty-Nine]

I like both the Fit and Yaris (and xD, plus I own a Civic).

I think Toyota vs. Honda thing is kind of like the battle of the Japanese Goliaths; both manufacturers are usually at the top of their games.

[Kaotic Lazagna]

Can't really add anything here. What my answer is was already said. LOL.

[blktiger60]

Honda still has no match for the MR2. . .

[buchieboy]

yup
yaris/fit
corolla/civic
camry,accord

this is also the comparison in the Philippines.
Though the fit outnumber the yaris by a mile

[ddongbap]

Honda still has no match for the MR2. . .

NSX?

S2K?

[puetato89]

nsx/supra
s2k/celica (i guess)

[eTiMaGo]

celica's "match" would be the integra/RSX

can't reaally compare S2K to MR2, they're quite different in many ways... MR2 to Mazda Miata/MX5 is a better comparison I would say

[PaidTimeOff]

Ok, quiz: If the celica's match is the integra, who was the direct competition for the prelude (when they were still manufacturing it)?

[redyaris]

Why does everyone compare the Yaris vs the Fit rather than the Civic?? The Civic gets better mpg's than the Fit and they are basically the same starting price. I think the Yaris Sedan is more like the base Civic than a base fit.

Not me, before I purchased I compared the Yaris to a Kia Rio or Suzuki SX4. I even considered the Chevy Aveo5 for a split second until I came to my senses.

[mackie421]

Why does everyone compare the Yaris vs the Fit rather than the Civic??

I compared the Yaris to the Fit because I was looking for a hatch, and the Civic unfortunately no longer comes in hatch form in the US. I ended up w/ the Yaris because of the weak highway mpg w/ the manual tranny in the Fit.

[PetersRedYaris]

...the Civic unfortunately no longer comes in hatch form in the US...

And that's to bad. :thumbdown: A Civic (4 door) wagon or (2 door) hatch would probably be the coolest car made today (in it's own catagory of course). :drool:

[nsmitchell]

I loved the Civic Si Hatchbacks! I wanted one so bad...

I've owned 2 Civic Hatchbacks: 1988 Civic and a 1993 Civic VX. I loved them both very much!
I also owned a 1996 Civic HX CVT. I loved that car too.

I would say the answer to an MR2 would be the Del Sol VTech. I had a 1993 Del Sol Si and it was just the best car I've ever driven. In the summer it was that much better as I could go topless in less than 30 seconds. I would love it if Honda would remake the Del Sol as a hybrid.

The Fit and Yaris LB is a good comparison, but you can't compare a Civic to a Yaris Sedan. The Civic will mop the floor with a Yaris sedan, plus the Civic costs more and basically outclasses the Yaris.

[Thirty-Nine]

I loved the Civic Si Hatchbacks! I wanted one so bad...

I've owned 2 Civic Hatchbacks: 1988 Civic and a 1993 Civic VX. I loved them both very much!
I also owned a 1996 Civic HX CVT. I loved that car too.

I would say the answer to an MR2 would be the Del Sol VTech. I had a 1993 Del Sol Si and it was just the best car I've ever driven. In the summer it was that much better as I could go topless in less than 30 seconds. I would love it if Honda would remake the Del Sol as a hybrid.

The Fit and Yaris LB is a good comparison, but you can't compare a Civic to a Yaris Sedan. The Civic will mop the floor with a Yaris sedan, plus the Civic costs more and basically outclasses the Yaris.

The Civic and Corolla are in the same class.

Between my wife and me, we've owned eight Hondas: a '79 Civic, a '97 and '90 CRX, a '91 DX hatch, 1998 Civic EX coupe, 1998 Civic EX sedan (still have), a '98 Prelude SH, and a '00 hatch -- all were great cars.

The Yaris is my second Toyota product. I had an '05 xB, which I loved until the clutch crapped out on it. I traded it in on my Yaris, which has been great thus far.

[mackie421]

And that's to bad. :thumbdown: A Civic (4 door) wagon or (2 door) hatch would probably be the coolest car made today (in it's own catagory of course). :drool:


Agreed. My friends went to Greece last summer and were ready to become diplomats so they could bring over a Civic hatch.

[blktiger60]

I loved the Civic Si Hatchbacks! I wanted one so bad...

I've owned 2 Civic Hatchbacks: 1988 Civic and a 1993 Civic VX. I loved them both very much!
I also owned a 1996 Civic HX CVT. I loved that car too.

I would say the answer to an MR2 would be the Del Sol VTech. I had a 1993 Del Sol Si and it was just the best car I've ever driven. In the summer it was that much better as I could go topless in less than 30 seconds. I would love it if Honda would remake the Del Sol as a hybrid.

The Fit and Yaris LB is a good comparison, but you can't compare a Civic to a Yaris Sedan. The Civic will mop the floor with a Yaris sedan, plus the Civic costs more and basically outclasses the Yaris.

I agree, the Del Sol is a good match for the MR2. I recently sold my `85 CRX Si but I still have my `85 MR2.

[Jem_hadar]

I loved the Civic Si Hatchbacks!

OH YEA... I'd kill two babies for an 03 civic hatchback!!! Fucking hot as hell cars!! LOVE THEM TOO!




I compared the Yaris to the Fit because I was looking for a hatch

Ditto.

And similar in price (note: i was never looking at the yaris RS or the fit sport topline models; and i was only ever looking at the 5door yaris too).

Plus them being in the same class (sub-compact) and all, with nearly same HP, torque, fuel efficiency, etc. etc. (even more so back in 07, before the new 09 fits came up w/ beefed up specs and offerings standard/available on it)

Jem

[tomato]

Why does everyone compare the Yaris vs the Fit rather than the Civic?? The Civic gets better mpg's than the Fit and they are basically the same starting price. I think the Yaris Sedan is more like the base Civic than a base fit.

Because they don't make a civic hatchback anymore, the FIT is its replacement. In fact, I think it's the smallest Honda in the US.

[tomato]

I loved the Civic Si Hatchbacks! I wanted one so bad...

So did I!!! :cry:

I've owned 2 Civic Hatchbacks: 1988 Civic and a 1993 Civic VX. I loved them both very much!
I also owned a 1996 Civic HX CVT. I loved that car too.




I almost bought a used Civic SI, but at the last minute I opted for the Yaris instead because the SI owner wanted as much money for his 9 year old Civic as the dealer for a couple years old Yaris, so I went with the newer car.

I owned a Honda Civic first gen. for a while, then got a 1987 CRX which I kept for a long time, until about 2 weeks ago. Hondas are good cars!!! :headbang:

[yaris-me]

I've never owned a Honda, just Toyota's and Nissan's. When I needed a car I didn't consider the Fit as equivalent to the Yaris. I never thought to compare. After I bought the Yaris, I became aware of the comparison. They are both great cars, but....................the Yaris is better!:thumbup:

[Dorkinheimer]

Be glad that people comare the Yaris to another good car, and not a Hundai or Kia...

[beaglemobile]

Another Civic hatchback lover here. I looked at several used ones before getting a new Yaris, in fact.

Anyone remember the Honda Accord station wagon? Or for that matter, the Accord hatchback? I saw a guy a few weeks ago with one of the HBs in mint condition.

[tomato]

Another Civic hatchback lover here. I looked at several used ones before getting a new Yaris, in fact.

Anyone remember the Honda Accord station wagon? Or for that matter, the Accord hatchback? I saw a guy a few weeks ago with one of the HBs in mint condition.

I sure do! We had a Honda Accord HB before I got my first Honda, a used Civic first gen. I drove that thing to the ground. I saw an old Accord HB on Craigslist about a month ago, also mint condition, despite a lot of miles. :respekt:

[beaglemobile]

CVCC represent! :biggrin:

[Kal-El]

Be glad that people comare the Yaris to another good car, and not a Hundai or Kia...

Yeah, Hyundai stinks. :rolleyes:

Dude, welcome to 2009. Hyundai is now among the best.

[eTiMaGo]

Yeah, Hyundai stinks. :rolleyes:

Dude, welcome to 2009. Hyundai is now among the best.

Agreed... and by all accounts that new Genesis coupe is looking to become one heck of an enthusiast car... Nissan and Toyota/Subaru couldn't get off their asses to build the next-gen cheap RWD coupe, now Hyundai's beat them to it!

[Tamago]

why does everyone compare the yaris to the suzuki swift, that's the one i want to know..

[eTiMaGo]

true, it's a well known fact that the old swift is a luxury car in disguise...

[Tamago]

true, it's a well known fact that the old swift is a luxury car in disguise...

what is the terminal velocity of an unladen african swallow, now THAT is one i'm curious about.

[YarisSedan]

subcompact to subcompact. civic is to corolla cause compact to compact

[ddongbap]

Lol. That Hyundai has the same door handle/lock combo as the Yaris.

[ddongbap]

Agreed... and by all accounts that new Genesis coupe is looking to become one heck of an enthusiast car... Nissan and Toyota/Subaru couldn't get off their asses to build the next-gen cheap RWD coupe, now Hyundai's beat them to it!

I don't think Subaru has anything except AWD.

Nissan's top stuff is AWD. And I think they have the 370z to compete in that Genesis segment. Even though the 370z costs more. Its much more car. You should be comparing it to the higher end Genesis Coupes anyways.

Ford's Mustang is pretty cheap. Starts at 20.

BMW's 128 is pretty close. I'd much rather get one of these. 135 would go up against the higher model Coupes.

Dodge has that challenger that starts at the same 22k price range.

Mazda has the RX-8 that starts at 26.

Toyota... they're Nascar now. Son. Idk wtf they're doing.

Soo, I think companies have been doing it. There's just another sparkle about the new Genesis.

[ddongbap]

what is the terminal velocity of an unladen african swallow, now THAT is one i'm curious about.

As fast as a penny? lol.

[Dorkinheimer]

Yeah, Hyundai stinks. :rolleyes:

Dude, welcome to 2009. Hyundai is now among the best.

Yeah, they went up in quality, but price for price, I prefer a Japanese car, and you did buy a Toyota !
And when you trade both cars in a few years later, you'll lose less with a Japanese, I'm pretty sure.

[derickveliz2]

Fit owners always stair at my car all the time, the sport ones try to race me at the highway.

[bobby]

I own a 2007 Yaris hatch, and a 2009 Phit with Navi. Having driven both, I can tell you that unquestionably the Phit is a better, safer, roomier, better handling car...by far.

That's all. :smile:

[specialeducator]

Given the price difference, it creates an unequal comparison. I quickly moved away from considering the Fit because of it's expense.

[blktiger60]

I own a 2007 Yaris hatch, and a 2009 Phit with Navi. Having driven both, I can tell you that unquestionably the Phit is a better, safer, roomier, better handling car...by far.

That's all. :smile:

Not to mention a whole lot uglier.

[ddongbap]

Given the price difference, it creates an unequal comparison. I quickly moved away from considering the Fit because of it's expense.

Toyota 5D LB: $13,300.

Honda Fit: $14,700.

[roxy1]

Toyota 5D LB: $13,300.

Honda Fit: $14,700.


not the proper comparison, since that is an automatic yaris 5 dr liftback.
automatic fit starts at $15,550

[niko3257]

^^^ if you really want to compare prices then there
really not that far off. the actuall differance is $325.
which is nothing.

a base fit auto cost $15,550
a yaris 5dr auto with power pkg
cost $15,225
so as you can see there basically the same
when equipped with the same options.
you have to remember hat the Fits come
with power. the yaris doesn't so you have to
add the power package to compare.

[Kal-El]

Yeah, they went up in quality, but price for price, I prefer a Japanese car, and you did buy a Toyota !
And when you trade both cars in a few years later, you'll lose less with a Japanese, I'm pretty sure.

I'll give you that much. :smile: Yes, I still prefer my Japanese cars but was just defending Hyundai as you basically stated that Hyundai and Kia aren't good cars.

[Kal-El]

I own a 2007 Yaris hatch, and a 2009 Phit with Navi. Having driven both, I can tell you that unquestionably the Phit is a better, safer, roomier, better handling car...by far.

That's all. :smile:

You paid approximately $19,500 for your Fit (auto?). How much was your Yaris again?

:wink:

[Ryu]

Yaris and Fit are both subcompact and both are from well known reliable Toyota and Honda, I guess that why is people always comparing Yaris to Fit, and not other subcompact.

[Split]

You can't cross compare years.

Yaris 5dr Hatchback - $15,065
Scion xD - $14,650
Honda Fit - $14,750

Yaris 5dr in the USA for some reason only comes in Automatic, so that explains the price difference.
I'm not really sure why Toyota makes its own competitor, Yaris 5dr vs Scion xD. GM has been doing this same stupidity for so long. Cobalt vs Pursuit, Solstice vs Sky, Sunfire vs Cavalier, Tahoe vs Yukon, etc. I don't really understand why.

Damn the Scion xD is a good deal btw, If we were in the states, we would have bought that instead for sure. The only reason I can see wanting a Yaris is for the 3dr or the sedan, i'm not sure why anyone would buy a 5dr yaris (no offensive to 5dr yaris owners, please enlighten me!). I'd love to have a Scion xD with that 1.8L motor.. its like a 5dr Yaris TS!

[supmet]

Yeah, Hyundai stinks. :rolleyes:

Dude, welcome to 2009. Hyundai is now among the best.

Agreed... and by all accounts that new Genesis coupe is looking to become one heck of an enthusiast car... Nissan and Toyota/Subaru couldn't get off their asses to build the next-gen cheap RWD coupe, now Hyundai's beat them to it!

Am I missing some running joke or something? You guys seriously think hyundais are nice? I realize not everyone reads consumer reports, but - I've asked this before, and I guess I'll keep asking - when was the last time you saw a hyundai driving around that was 5 years old or older? I see one a month tops, and invariably its making some god awful screeching/whining/hissing/"broken car" noise. Compare that with the 50 old hondas/toyotas that I see, and each one sounds like it still has 100k+ left in it.

Welcome to 2009, where your hyundai still sucks.

[specialeducator]

I was using real life data- cars on the lots.

[tomato]

The only reason I can see wanting a Yaris is for the 3dr or the sedan, i'm not sure why anyone would buy a 5dr yaris (no offensive to 5dr yaris owners, please enlighten me!).

I can totally see why 3dr LB owners would want to get a 5-dr: you get to keep the LB style, car is pretty much the same body size, but it's 100 times more convenient for getting people and stuff in and out of the back seat (getting people through the front doors is kind of awkward and gets old eventually).

I have a 3dr myself, only because I don't use the back seats much. If I did, I would have gotten the Fit or the Matrix. Putting in doors in the back is a pretty smart move, i think. My 2 c. :cool:

[ddongbap]

not the proper comparison, since that is an automatic yaris 5 dr liftback.
automatic fit starts at $15,550It still doesn't matter.

[Jem_hadar]

Anyone remember the Honda Accord station wagon? Or for that matter, the Accord hatchback? I saw a guy a few weeks ago with one of the HBs in mint condition.

Yea! My ex's father has the Accord wagon!

Yeah, Hyundai stinks. :rolleyes:

Dude, welcome to 2009. Hyundai is now among the best.


In the last 5+ years, Hyundai has made incredible gains in quality with their cars (styling too). They arent "shitboxes" anymore.

Even if one buys an Accent (and IMO the new ones are nice, save for the interior dash), you neednt fear it falling apart after the standard 5 yr / 100,000 km warranty expires.

And the new Elantra Touring (read: hatchback) that just came out... brilliant!! Id rather own it than a Toyota Matrix if I was shopping now in that class.

[Jem_hadar]

You can't cross compare years.
i'm not sure why anyone would buy a 5dr yaris (no offensive to 5dr yaris owners, please enlighten me!).

Bc it has 4 doors! Cant stand 2door cars. They drive me nuts for the poor accessibility to the backseat when its needed (and this is coming from a guy who is usually driving by himself).

But also, in the Yaris Hatchback's case, I dont like the styling of the 3door yaris... it just feels/looks like its lacking something to me...

I much prefer the looks of the 5door yaris hatchback.

[supmet]

In the last 5+ years, Hyundai has made incredible gains in quality with their cars (styling too). They arent "shitboxes" anymore.

That's funny. So - over the last 5 years - hyundai has turned from the creator of "shitboxes" by your own terminology, to "one of the best."

How exactly do you know this?? Considering none of the cars created in this "5 year golden age of hyundai," have been in the consumers hands long enough to give conclusive results? I still don't see many 04 hyundais, and again, when I do, they sound like complete crap, and are just hobbling around town waiting to explode on some unsuspecting person. Maybe the complete restructuring and turnaround of hyundai didn't start til 05??

Actually forget it. If you think a company can go from turning out steaming piles to golden eggs overnight, there's no point in this conversation. Go buy a hyundai. I'm sure it will last 10 years, 200k miles with NO problems.

[Arkhangel]

Be glad that people comare the Yaris to another good car, and not a Hundai or Kia...

Dont forget Daewoo :barf:

[SurfinYaris]

Its because we have DOHC motor and Fit have SOHC... if you get my sarcastic

[upyaris]

Frankly, everyone I talk to that has a bought a Honda within the past 4 years has had nothing but problems.
2006 Accord - Back window leaked and airbag recall.
2006 Civic - Driver seat back pops off, broken side mirrors as they do not bend when hit.
2008 Civic - Wind noise from window not closing property.

I haven't heard a complaint yet from a new Toyota owner. Oh, most Hondas aren't manufactured in Japan anymore. Probably why they aren't working as well.

[Jem_hadar]

Actually forget it. If you think a company can go from turning out steaming piles to golden eggs overnight, there's no point in this conversation. Go buy a hyundai. I'm sure it will last 10 years, 200k miles with NO problems.

I dont think their cars are "one of the best" -- wasnt me who said that. I merely said they arent crap-cars anymore.

Now granted its only the latest gens that seem to be improvements. there isnt any long-term data to support that they wont fall apart after 5+ years, but with the if you read reviews, hyndais are being almost universally lambasted anymore by reviewers.

The quality of internal materials is now running close to par w/ others in their respective segments (eg. accent vs. yaris, elentra (touring) vs. corolla (matrix))

i woudlnt be surprised to see these current gen hyundais last 6,7,8 years.

and just to note, ive had my yaris now 3 years, and ive had lots of probs w/ it, and its a wonderful toyota product.

low-beam/high-beam stalk went (couldnt turn on highbeams), rust on breakpads causing whine when breaking, that damned bloody ABS sensor/harness BS (in now for my 4th fix... 3 sensors + the harness now!), radio stopped reading CDs when cold, that recent recall issue, etc)

[marcus]

ill take the 09 fit front end then keep my read end on my yaris hatch then take the fit gauge interior as well as the steering wheel then keep my yaris seats and clove compartments.. also take the fit 09 engine 117hp then keep my yaris manual transmission. :thumbup:

now thats customade...

[tetzyamis]

ill take the 09 fit front end then keep my read end on my yaris hatch then take the fit gauge interior as well as the steering wheel then keep my yaris seats and clove compartments.. also take the fit 09 engine 117hp then keep my yaris manual transmission. :thumbup:

now thats customade...

Sounds like a perfect car :eek:

[田中秀樹]

Oh, most Hondas aren't manufactured in Japan anymore. Probably why they aren't working as well.

Neither are most US Market Toyotas.

[blktiger60]

Neither are most US Market Toyotas.

The Yaris is though.

[田中秀樹]

The Yaris is though.

And so is the Fit.

[33OH]

In the last 5+ years, Hyundai has made incredible gains in quality with their cars (styling too). They arent "shitboxes" anymore.

Even if one buys an Accent (and IMO the new ones are nice, save for the interior dash), you neednt fear it falling apart after the standard 5 yr / 100,000 km warranty expires.


I have an '07 Accent hatchback, and while it's no Yaris, it's a decent little car, about 50K miles and no problems at all yet.

I still love my Yaris 100000 times better.

[Jem_hadar]

I have an '07 Accent hatchback, and while it's no I still love my Yaris 100000 times better.

I would too!! :biggrin::biggrin::biggrin: (But i do like the new gen accent hatchbacks)

[bobby]

You paid approximately $19,500 for your Fit (auto?). How much was your Yaris again?

:wink:

The Yaris was a lot less...it's also a lot less car. Less safer, less-than-steller handling, less air bags, less navi, less esc, etc.

As Toyota and Honda sales plummet during this Depression, the Phit sales increased 2.3% in February. Wonder why?

[slothman86]

ill take the 09 fit front end then keep my read end on my yaris hatch then take the fit gauge interior as well as the steering wheel then keep my yaris seats and clove compartments.. also take the fit 09 engine 117hp then keep my yaris manual transmission. :thumbup:

now thats customade...

now we just need a rendering!