1NZFE K1 by Carrillo Rod interest list

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Hey guys, we are trying to gauge interest for these.
This is from scionlife.com
Thread --> http://www.scionlife.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=245472

For those looking to upgrade the internals for the 1NZ-FE, the majority of cost to upgrade is the connecting rods. Until recently, they needed to be custom made. Crower has recently added the 1NZFE to it's parts catalog, but still runs a hefty $750.

I noticed Dezod had K1 Technologies (a Carrillo company) do a production run on rods for the 2AZFE for $421. I've asked Paul if he could do a similar production run for the 1NZ, and he said it would be a possibility if enough people show interest.

His response was:
That 2AZ connecting rod cost is just crazy cheap!

Any chance on a K1 rod for the 1NZ-FE? Still working up to dropping $750 on a Crower set, looks like after XMas at this point :(. I'll be emailing them to see what a custom or low run cost would be.

The k1s could be made for the 1NZFE, but we need atleast an inital order of 25 sets to offer them at that price.

So I am now making a list to gauge interest. There is no financial commitment at this point, but I'm assuming at some point there would be a prepay prior to the production run. No timeline yet either, I'll ask about turn-around. Please sign up if you have a genuine interest in a more affordable connecting rod and would plan to purchase in the next 6 months to a year or so. let's get this thing started, with not a lot of people building the 1NZ yet there is a lot of fun to be had in pushing up the HP numbers.

I will also be fielding this on ClubxB, so if you post there please let me know you also posted here so I don't count you twice.

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We are trying to gauge interest in these.

http://www.yarisworld.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12818

[cali yaris]

$400-450 would be a really nice price range for rods. Any pics of pieces already made? I'd like to see the design.

The Pauter custom rods I had made were less than the Crowers but more than that.

[Tamago]

interesting...

also interesting that you can buy a gently used 4EFTE for about $400 ;)

[whooppee777]

at what horse power should one be considering upgrading the connecting rods?

[cali yaris]

my opinion is 200+ only. I've been runnin 183 whp on stock rods for about 9 months now.

[Tamago]

at what horse power should one be considering upgrading the connecting rods?

i broke one on a bone stock engine with about 40K on it... the high rev's kills them.

[whooppee777]

interesting. then i would only intend to replace my rods if i broke my stock ones.

[Tamago]

interesting. then i would only intend to replace my rods if i broke my stock ones.

when you break a rod you'll destroy your engine block..

so you might as well buy a spare longblock now and build it up

[ROCKLAND TOYOTA]

so you might as well buy a spare longblock now and build it up hey whooppie my loss is your gain. PM me if interested......

[at3GG]

4efte for 400?? wow that makes me wish i kew what that was.........:wink:

[ROCKLAND TOYOTA]

Specifications:
Year: 1989 - 1994
Displacement (cc): 1331
Horsepower: 135 @ 6400
Torque (ft-lbs): 116 @ 4800
Bore (mm): 74
Stroke (mm): 77.4
Compression Ratio: 8.2:1
Vavles per Cylinder: 4
Valve Angle: 25°
Cam Design: DOHC
Ignition System: Distributor
Spark Plug Gap: .022"
Fuel System: Fuel Injected, excess fuel return
Head Gasket Thickness (mm): 1.2
Combustion Chamber Volume: 39 cc
Cars Used In: Starlet GT

General Info:
Toyota followed similar lines with the 4E-FTE as they did with the 3E-TE. Thus the 4E-FTE is basically a 4E-FE with stronger connecting rods and lower compression pistons. It also has a harmonic damper instead of a normal crankshaft pulley. However, it does share the same head with the 4E-FE, 1st gen 5E-FE, and 5E-FHE. It produces the most stock horsepower of any E series engine.
Over time this has become a very popular engine to swap into Tercels and Paseos due to its high stock power output. It is also known to be capable of handling much more power without upgrading stock internals.

Similar / Interchangable Parts:
Camshafts: 1st gen 5E-FE, 5E-FHE (slightly higher lift / duration)
Valvetrain: 1st gen 5E-FE, 5E-FHE
Head: 1st gen 5E-FE, 5E-FHE
Pistons: 1st gen 5E-FE (higher compression), 5E-FHE (higher compression), 2nd gen 5E-FE (higher compression)
Connecting Rods: 4E-FE (downgrade)

i had a picture of one that was too big to post but the guys from gtspec/wingsperformance had 2 in their shop and said it was a no-brainer to put in my car......

[Tamago]

its an engine but ive looked for what he was saying and couldn't find it......

it's in the "useless suspension mods" forum on www.theinternetforricers.com


:laughabove::laughabove::laughabove::laughabove:

[pinoypizzaboy]

ok noob question. So if I'm planning on building a turbo motor all I need is bottom end parts ( crankshaft, rods, pistons, sleeves )? No head parts? And with all this upgrade parts how much boost can these parts and motor take? :)

[pinoypizzaboy]

^^ our motors 1nz

[eTiMaGo]

ok noob question. So if I'm planning on building a turbo motor all I need is bottom end parts ( crankshaft, rods, pistons, sleeves )? No head parts? And with all this upgrade parts how much boost can these parts and motor take? :)

well, essentially, if you want (a lot) more boost, you gotta eliminate the "weakest links" in your engine, in this case, the rods. It's also good to uprate the rest of the bottom end, since that's where there's the most stress from the higher compression.

You don't even really neeed to change out any bottom parts if you go for a sensible amount of boost. When we talked to the local TRD guys here, they only recommended pushing the engine to about 140hp on stock internals. But, others have been pushing the 1NZ way past that, and results may vary. I think Tamago's gone through a couple engines already with his ghetto setup :biggrin:

The top end is relatively strong by comparison, making modifications to the head of most engines is related mostly to airflow and timing.

How much boost you can run, in the end? well, we'll have to wait for cali yaris to tell us, and he won't be happy til he sees 300whp :wink: And, the more money you throw at a project like this, the higher the results you can see... FYI, 80's F1 cars used 1.5L turbo engines producing over 1000hp. Of course they were of a very different construction than our economy engines!

[cali yaris]

no need to upgrade the crankshaft unless you're going nuts with your project.

[Tamago]

I think Tamago's gone through a couple engines already with his ghetto setup :biggrin:

actually, no, just a transmission and set of axles :) the engine is fine! the one i broke before was stock

[PHXDEMON]

INteresting.

[cali yaris]

What happened to the OP? :iono:

[at3GG]

ah heh knew it was an engine...just didnt know which. Thanks