Widest Possible on Stock Body Yaris

[Russelt3hPirate]

Hey guys,

I'm looking to do some nice wide wheels on our Yaris.

I'm thinking 15x9.

Thoughts?

[largeorangefont]

Go ahead. They will stick out.

[Russelt3hPirate]

Go ahead. They will stick out.

I'll help an xA owner setup some 15x9s then test fit them.

haha.

I saw a set of 18x8 +40mm's on Tire rack with a 215/35/18, if Tire Rack lists it that means alot.

I'm curious if they screwed that up though.

some 15x8s would be pretty nice.

although i have a feeling they'd still poke.

I should just stick to my original plan of 16x7 +38mm front +28mm rear.

gotta find an xA owner who needs 15x9s and convince him to buy new wheels.....:headbang:

[largeorangefont]

I'll help an xA owner setup some 15x9s then test fit them.

haha.

I saw a set of 18x8 +40mm's on Tire rack with a 215/35/18, if Tire Rack lists it that means alot.

I'm curious if they screwed that up though.

some 15x8s would be pretty nice.

although i have a feeling they'd still poke.

I should just stick to my original plan of 16x7 +38mm front +28mm rear.

gotta find an xA owner who needs 15x9s and convince him to buy new wheels.....:headbang:

You could do 8s easily in the back, maybe 9s with the perfect offset.
Anything more than 7.5 in the front will poke in the front.

My 16X7+40s are flush in the front

[severous01]

I'll help an xA owner setup some 15x9s then test fit them.

haha.

I saw a set of 18x8 +40mm's on Tire rack with a 215/35/18, if Tire Rack lists it that means alot.

:

no way

a 235 is the smallest width that will fit on an 8" rim. not even close. i have 275/40/17 on my camaros.

u'll be lookin like the old school mexican's cars with the reverse offset rims on the small cars like hondas n mustangs....from the early 90's. and really....i think a 6" width would be more than enough to set the tire edge even wit the fender....which will still be legal for street.

[largeorangefont]

No that is not the smallest for a 235. It will look OK. You can run a 235/40 on a 9 in wheel with no problem, and it is within the manufacturers recommended limits. A 215 on an 8 is ok as well, just at the small end of the spectrum.

[Russelt3hPirate]

You could do 8s easily in the back, maybe 9s with the perfect offset.
Anything more than 7.5 in the front will poke in the front.

My 16X7+40s are flush in the front

Our 15x7 +35mm fronts sit nice and flush with a 205/55/15.

we're running 10mm hub spacers in the rear and it's really flush, but we have a large amount of inboard room.

if we did a wider wheel I know we'd need to do a shorter tire.

I guess I need to really just take some more measurements, I'd rather not run a wider wheel in the rear just for looks. :thumbdown:

I need to host the new snapshots we got with the Tamago Hub Spacers on.

just curious what the other Yaris guys thought, thanks Orange.

no way

a 235 is the smallest width that will fit on an 8" rim. not even close. i have 275/40/17 on my camaros.


I'm not worried about the tire.

when you "smallest width" where are you getting your info?

[ChinoCharles]

The widest wheel I've ever seen run on a Yaris is a 15x8, FWIW.

[Russelt3hPirate]

The widest wheel I've ever seen run on a Yaris is a 15x8, FWIW.

yeah, we're lacking some wheel well in the front to really push it further.

[ChinoCharles]

The only way you're going to shove a 9+ inch wide wheel under this thing is to either go with some fender flares or a widebody kit and run some stupid offset, which I'm all for by the way. :thumbsup:

[Russelt3hPirate]

The only way you're going to shove a 9+ inch wide wheel under this thing is to either go with some fender flares or a widebody kit and run some stupid offset, which I'm all for by the way. :thumbsup:

well you could tub the front fenders.

i've got a set of over fenders that would work on the yaris pretty well.

but they are for the rear, where we don't really have the problem of space.

[ChinoCharles]

Do it to it. I'd like to see.

[Russelt3hPirate]

Do it to it. I'd like to see.

which part?

mocking up the rear flares or cutting up my girlfriends yaris? :bellyroll:

[ChinoCharles]

Both! :laugh:

[bzinn 1]

you could fit 8" side rims with a 40 offset in I have 42 offset on 7.5" side rims and they fit fine.with my drop they rub on some bumps on the inner plastic wheel well,so you could do 8" but you gotta find light rims and right profile tires....or poor car will be slow as slow can get.

[Russelt3hPirate]

still on stock struts?

[marcus]

like this.

[Russelt3hPirate]

:vomit:

did you read the title?

read comprehension owns.

[marcus]

did read the title..just like to show this one just for the hell of it..

[yarisugi]

According to KS-Auto in Japan, their display car has 18"x9" +48offset wheels that sit quite nicely.
But, to me, looks like it'll rub like crazy.
http://burnout-web.com/pic-labo/73_KD8c.jpg

[ChinoCharles]

There definitely must be some creative wheel well modifications there. Those are huge.

[botchilah]

This is OT but why put in wheels that wide? It'll ruin the steering feel and feedback as well as the overall balance of the car. Sure you'll gain loads of grip and absolute braking power is improved, but unless you drive the nuts off the car every single time, the loss of good feel as well as strain and other parts (steering gear etc.) might not be worth it.

Having said that, I am curious as to how wide you can go on the Yaris.

[ddongbap]

I'm diggin that lip.

[REM]

This thread has me a little worried. I just purchased some 18x7.5 rims with a 36mm offset. Should I be worried about them protruding from the fenders in the front of my 07 Yaris?

[Russelt3hPirate]

Yes.

depending on your suspension and tire choice there is a very good chance you'll rub nearly everywhere.

[CASTREX]

This thread has me a little worried. I just purchased some 18x7.5 rims with a 36mm offset. Should I be worried about them protruding from the fenders in the front of my 07 Yaris?

Crazy rubbing!!

Go for 195 tires if possible... and don't think about lowering the ride.

[Split]

you need an extremely high offset for these cars. i would think that a 215mm tire would fit at +50mm offset and a 205mm tire should fit at a +45mm offset. The width of the wheel itself doesn't matter too much. It really matters what's mounted on it. You could technically stretch some 215's onto a 9"inch wheel, but there's no point.. you may as well just run an 8" wheel. I personally plan on buying just a 16x7 for summer next year with 205mm tires.

[REM]

Crazy rubbing!!

Go for 195 tires if possible... and don't think about lowering the ride.

Thanks guys. I just canceled my order for the 18s. I think I found some that I'm going to go with: 17x7 with an offset of 45. Those should work if I go with 205 tires , right?

[yarisugi]

Thanks guys. I just canceled my order for the 18s. I think I found some that I'm going to go with: 17x7 with an offset of 45. Those should work if I go with 205 tires , right?

Much much MUCH better.

[REM]

Much much MUCH better.

Good because I won the auction. :smile:

[CASTREX]

Yeah.. that's as good as you can get with a 17" wheel on the Yaris.

Your tires of choice should be 205/40/17

[REM]

Yeah.. that's as good as you can get with a 17" wheel on the Yaris.

Your tires of choice should be 205/40/17

Not 205/45/17?

[CASTREX]

Not 205/45/17?

You can probably fit 205/45 with no problem. And the car will probably be more confortable.
My car is a Yaris TS and came from factory with 205/45/17 wheels.


Altough the best match to the US OEM wheel sizes would be 205/40.


Also, there are more tire options on 205/40 than in 205/45.


Are you lowered or planning to drop your car?

If you are going for a close to 2" drop stay with the 205/40's If you are dropping around 1" then 205/45

^^^
That will minimize any rubbing on the plastic inner fender over speed bumps.

[REM]

You can probably fit 205/45 with no problem. And the car will probably be more confortable.
My car is a Yaris TS and came from factory with 205/45/17 wheels.


Altough the best match to the US OEM wheel sizes would be 205/40.


Also, there are more tire options on 205/40 than in 205/45.


Are you lowered or planning to drop your car?

If you are going for a close to 2" drop stay with the 205/40's If you are dropping around 1" then 205/45

^^^
That will minimize any rubbing on the plastic inner fender over speed bumps.

My driveway inhibits any idea of lowering my car right now. Maybe in a few years when I buy another house, but until then I will keep my Yaris stock in that department.

I should probably just go with the 205/40s because they will leave me more leeway in the future, though. Thanks again for all the advice!

[REM]

You can probably fit 205/45 with no problem. And the car will probably be more confortable.
My car is a Yaris TS and came from factory with 205/45/17 wheels.


Altough the best match to the US OEM wheel sizes would be 205/40.


Also, there are more tire options on 205/40 than in 205/45.


Are you lowered or planning to drop your car?

If you are going for a close to 2" drop stay with the 205/40's If you are dropping around 1" then 205/45

^^^
That will minimize any rubbing on the plastic inner fender over speed bumps.

Let me just thank you again for suggesting 205/40s. I just purchased a set and saved $125 on the same exact tires, only 205/40s instead of 205/45s. I had no idea the price difference!

[CASTREX]

Yeap that's right. The 205/45 is not that common of a tire. From the top of my head I can only think on the Mini Cooper which comes with 205/45 from factory.

On the other side the 205/40/17 is a really common tire size on the Honda tuning world... hence why more common and cheap.

[Russelt3hPirate]

you need an extremely high offset for these cars. i would think that a 215mm tire would fit at +50mm offset and a 205mm tire should fit at a +45mm offset. The width of the wheel itself doesn't matter too much. It really matters what's mounted on it. You could technically stretch some 215's onto a 9"inch wheel, but there's no point.. you may as well just run an 8" wheel. I personally plan on buying just a 16x7 for summer next year with 205mm tires.

In the front you're right.

we're running a 7" +25mm now with a 205 in the rear and it fits nicely. (coilovers).

I guess ultimately I'll need to find some lower offset wheels to really "push" the limits of what "fits" and then decide from there.

too bad my 17x10s are drilled for 5x114 and 5x100 :bellyroll:

[marcus]

so 16x7 with 205/50/16 is good with trd spring ( 1.5" drop)..

[Russelt3hPirate]

depends on the offset.

+43 or so you should be fine.

+35 you run the risk of rubbing.

[marcus]

depends on the offset.

+43 or so you should be fine.

+35 you run the risk of rubbing.



so 16x7 with 205/50/16 is good with trd spring ( 1.5" drop).. oh yah its +40 offset.

[Russelt3hPirate]

so 16x7 with 205/50/16 is good with trd spring ( 1.5" drop).. oh yah its +40 offset.

you "should" be fine although a slightly higher offset would be better if you're worried about rubbing.

may need to add a little camber if you do rub.

[Tamago]

so, have you found 15X9's yet?

[Russelt3hPirate]

no :(

I think we can make it work with the right tire size/offset and camber up front.

and saggio showed we can pull the rear fender a good bit.

I've got the 15x9s picked out, just need to figure out what's needed to actually get it to "fit"

well that and finding the $$ to do it :lol:

[Tamago]

no :(

I think we can make it work with the right tire size/offset and camber up front.

and saggio showed we can pull the rear fender a good bit.

I've got the 15x9s picked out, just need to figure out what's needed to actually get it to "fit"

well that and finding the $$ to do it :lol:

what wheels?

[Russelt3hPirate]

what wheels?

top secret. :)

15s though.

[Split]

Rota is pretty good about offering high offsets. Same with BBS if you can afford it. You might be able to find an 8"width wheel with a +48mm offset from them.

[Tamago]

Rota is pretty good about offering high offsets. Same with BBS if you can afford it. You might be able to find an 8"width wheel with a +48mm offset from them.

lolol IBRUSSELL

[Russelt3hPirate]

Rota is pretty good about offering high offsets. Same with BBS if you can afford it. You might be able to find an 8"width wheel with a +48mm offset from them.

you wont see Rota's on the Yaris.

Support the real companies. :wub:

[edie]

So will 15 by 8 inch 43 offset fit on a yaris with coilovers?
The wheels wil be wearing 195/50/15 tyres on them

[Split]

i've never owned rotas before. i have BBS RGR's on my IS300.. but seeing as the Yaris is a FWD Econobox, i think Rota will be just fine.

[PHXDEMON]

Thanks guys. I just canceled my order for the 18s. I think I found some that I'm going to go with: 17x7 with an offset of 45. Those should work if I go with 205 tires , right?

Good choice. 18's are just way to big for our cars especially 18's that wide :thumbsup:

[ChinoCharles]

BUMP

I need as much rubber as humanly possible on the road. I'm OK with running a staggered offset and even wheel size if raking the car forward a bit would improve traction. Any suggestions?

[Tamago]

BUMP

I need as much rubber as humanly possible on the road. I'm OK with running a staggered offset and even wheel size if raking the car forward a bit would improve traction. Any suggestions?


225 45 15 on a 15X7 +35

why do you want staggered?

[ChinoCharles]

Currently my fronts are pretty much flush, but the rears sit inwards moreso than the front, so a different offset for the front and rear would be ideal, no?

Glad you're here to respond to this Tamago. :smile:

[ChinoCharles]

Also, the reason I ask is my current Heliums are 15x6.5 and that ain't gonna cut it anymore. I'll be selling them soon.

[Tamago]

Currently my fronts are pretty much flush, but the rears sit inwards moreso than the front, so a different offset for the front and rear would be ideal, no?

Glad you're here to respond to this Tamago. :smile:

we'll see how long i last this time ;)

maybe some rear spacers would make your wheel search easier. mitsubishi evolution wheel studs (ARP) will work for a longer stud.

[ChinoCharles]

So just STFU, bite the bullet and get some spacers, eh?

What about staggering the wheel heights? Does it provide any handling improvements?

[Tamago]

So just STFU, bite the bullet and get some spacers, eh?

What about staggering the wheel heights? Does it provide any handling improvements?

yes, spacers or hub spacers :D


no

do you have ABS?

[ChinoCharles]

No.

[Tamago]

ah ok, feel free to run different wheel size front and rear ;)

[ChinoCharles]

I know, I could have all sorts of fun.

[Russelt3hPirate]

the fronts are the issues.

how much camber you willing to run? are you looking for grip in the straight line or on corner exit/mid corner?

you'll benefit more from an LSD then wider tires. Oh and make sure your current tires are EXTREME performance and not just "summers" or all seasons.

a narrow high quality tire will out run/grip a shitty wide tire.

[teejay]

quick question this is where all my offset and width answers are slowly getting answered.. im planning on getting the MiRo Stp1 16x7.5 et30 running 195/50/16.. seems that the rears will be fine but the front will have rubbing issues under full load?