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YenOfIrrelevent
01-18-2009, 10:52 PM
Has anybody tried putting in Pure Acetone in their tank to see if it adds more mileage to your Yaris or any car at all?

I saw Kip's video and I also googled "Acetone Mileage" The articles and videos seems convincing but not so sure if it really does work.

Please post away if you have tried it or still doing it or have theories about it.

Tamago
01-18-2009, 10:56 PM
i've run up to 3ounces of acetone in 12 gallons and saw about 3mpg better.. and i didn't baby the car.

let's hear the naysayers get to it now lol

why?
01-18-2009, 10:57 PM
The biggest thing you will find is it won't work if there is alcohol in the fuel. Since there is alcohol in all gas now, the gains have become a lot less.

Tamago
01-18-2009, 11:47 PM
The biggest thing you will find is it won't work if there is alcohol in the fuel. Since there is alcohol in all gas now, the gains have become a lot less.

i think you mean ethanol?

why?
01-18-2009, 11:52 PM
i think you mean ethanol? Ethanol is a type of alocohol, lol. But yea, I remembering reading a guide about it a very long time ago that said using acetone with gas with alcohol in it didn't do anything because the acetone bonded with the water molecules in the alcohol and therefor didn't increase octane. Or some such. However now that we've had the stuff around for a bit, I am sure somewhere someone has figured out if it works with the new gas or not.

YenOfIrrelevent
01-19-2009, 12:00 AM
Ethanol is a type of alocohol, lol. But yea, I remembering reading a guide about it a very long time ago that said using acetone with gas with alcohol in it didn't do anything because the acetone bonded with the water molecules in the alcohol and therefor didn't increase octane. Or some such. However now that we've had the stuff around for a bit, I am sure somewhere someone has figured out if it works with the new gas or not.

Hmmm... I like to hear if there is a new way to mix with the Ethanol, I just want to be absolutely positive before doing anything to my Yaris.

why?
01-19-2009, 12:03 AM
Well, i can guarantee that it will not hurt your car. That is a fact. My father used it in a Jaguar for a while, and his mpg went up, and he has had zero problems relating to its use. Plus, the stuff is rather cheap, so it might not be too bad to try it out. Just make sure you don't let it touch your paint job, as acetone is the main ingredient in the majority of paint removal products.

daf62757
01-19-2009, 12:32 AM
There is too much evidence online that this isn't a very good idea. I would error on the side of caution and never put this in your tank.

BailOut
01-19-2009, 01:51 AM
Acetone eats rubber and plastics, which happen to represent many seals and other parts used in the fuel delivery systems. Think about it... if it were such a great thing then every fuel brand would incorporate it.

talnlnky
01-19-2009, 02:41 AM
agree with bailout on this one... acetone is known to eat stuff, I would probably run it in a car that has say 150,000 miles on it once... if I believed there was gunk all up in its shit.... you know... to help clean it out really quick. But then again.. $16 in seafoam would probably do just as good.

saplaymate
01-19-2009, 11:50 AM
Acetone eats rubber and plastics, which happen to represent many seals and other parts used in the fuel delivery systems. Think about it... if it were such a great thing then every fuel brand would incorporate it.

Brian = smart

Tamago
01-19-2009, 11:58 AM
Acetone eats rubber and plastics, which happen to represent many seals and other parts used in the fuel delivery systems. Think about it... if it were such a great thing then every fuel brand would incorporate it.

yeah, the BEYOND GREEDY petroleum companies are going to put something in gasoline that will make us buy less of it :laugh::laugh:

Tamago
01-19-2009, 12:00 PM
agree with bailout on this one... acetone is known to eat stuff, I would probably run it in a car that has say 150,000 miles on it once... if I believed there was gunk all up in its shit.... you know... to help clean it out really quick. But then again.. $16 in seafoam would probably do just as good.

3oz in 10 gallons of gas....

that means there is a 3/1280 of acetone.. .00234:1

you get more damage from the ethanol in your gasoline which is up to 10% mix in today's gasoline.

acetone at these levels WILL NOT HARM YOUR ENGINE OR HOSES OR CAR.

SailDesign
01-19-2009, 12:09 PM
http://www.snopes.com/autos/techno/acetone.asp

jambo101
01-19-2009, 12:38 PM
Lots of good info on Acetone as an additive on this site =http://peswiki.com/index.php/Talk:Directory:Acetone_as_a_Fuel_Additive
Personnally i think the 1 or 2 mpg you might get from adding this stuff to your car is out weighed by the hassle of buying it ,putting it in the car without spilling it as it is the main ingredient in paint remover,storing the container of this flammable liquid,keeping precise mileage records to see if there is any mpg increase and thereby justifying use of the stuff, and risking gasket and seal damage if the nay sayers are right.
I'm too lazy to deal with it just for a supposed gain of a couple of mpg that i could achieve just as easy by slowing down 5mph.
Heres a good site that can give you better ways to improve mpg than pouring dubious concoctions down your gas tank.http://www.cleanmpg.com/forums/

Tamago
01-19-2009, 01:22 PM
http://www.snopes.com/autos/techno/acetone.asp

snopes is always out to disprove everything. it's still the internet, still was written by someone who has an opinion.

fact: it does work.

debatable: it's worth the time and effort

BailOut
01-19-2009, 01:39 PM
snopes is always out to disprove everything.
That is an inaccurate statement. Snopes often finds things are true, sometimes to my surprise.

it's still the internet, still was written by someone who has an opinion.
The same could be said for any single link given to support the use of acetone.

fact: it does work sometimes for some people in some cars.

debatable: it's worth the time and effort and potential damage to plastic and rubber parts in the fuel systems and engine
There - I fixed those for you.

Tamago
01-19-2009, 01:53 PM
There - I fixed those for you.

you better stop putting fuel in your car at all then because that 10% ethanol you're allowing is doing FAR MORE DAMAGE than 3oz of acetone.

let's keep arguing, i'm feeling more and more retarded having to repeat myself about ethanol

eTiMaGo
01-19-2009, 02:00 PM
Hmmm I'm not sure about USDM cars but mine has a little sticker in the gas door that says it's fine to use with gasohol (what they call the ethanol mix here, it's about 10% too). I'd think Toyota would know it is a common fuel mixture now and whatever components that could be affected, wouldn't be?

Ethanol is certainly not the greatest thing to happen to automobiles, but it is here to stay...

nsmitchell
01-19-2009, 04:08 PM
I tried acetone and it didn't do squat for my Tacoma. I was using it on a 1500 mile trip where I meticulously, measured out the ounces by the book. No difference in MPGs what so ever. Don't do it. It eats certain types of plastic. It's not worth the 0% improvement.

kou
01-19-2009, 04:22 PM
a good article on why ethanol/e85 sucks compared to gasoline.e85 US it was only brought out to help the farmers and GM for a short period once the govement's set amount has been produced hopefully it will disapear. http://www.edmunds.com/advice/alternativefuels/articles/120863/article.html

ZING
01-19-2009, 04:50 PM
It's not worth the 0% improvement.


hahaha

spookz
01-19-2009, 06:26 PM
Yeah, my AUDM Yaris has a sticker inside the fuel lid saying 'Suitable for use with ethanol (e10)'. So I guess Toyota has designed the fuel system to be usable with ethanol blended fuels.

Tamago
01-19-2009, 07:16 PM
I tried acetone and it didn't do squat for my Tacoma. I was using it on a 1500 mile trip where I meticulously, measured out the ounces by the book. No difference in MPGs what so ever. Don't do it. It eats certain types of plastic. It's not worth the 0% improvement.

there is no book that tells you exactly how much to put in your car.. start out slow, 1oz at a time and increase by the .5oz til you see improvement. then add a half ounce after that and see if it still improves. if not, revert to the last amount you were putting in.

i guess this "idea" is only as innovative as the experimenter

PetersRedYaris
01-19-2009, 11:51 PM
Tamago- I did just as you said closely following what seemed to be a reputable artical on this topic. This was in 2005 with a 1998 4-Runner with the 3.4 V6 with 110,000 miles. It didn't do anything for mileage at any concentration. After the first tank however, the engine did seem to idle smoother as if I had added a bottle of fuel injection cleaner. Maybe it was just in my head, but acetone is a very powerful solvent and very well could have cleaned the gunk out of the fuel system. I don't know... Then I added it to my wifes 2004 4-Runner (4.0 V6) with 32,000 miles. Less than a month later it was at the dealer with a suspected blown head gasket. We traded it off and I've never added acetone to anything ever again. Coincidence?

Tamago
01-19-2009, 11:58 PM
Tamago- I did just as you said closely following what seemed to be a reputable artical on this topic. This was in 2005 with a 1998 4-Runner with the 3.4 V6 with 110,000 miles. It didn't do anything for mileage at any concentration. After the first tank however, the engine did seem to idle smoother as if I had added a bottle of fuel injection cleaner. Maybe it was just in my head, but acetone is a very powerful solvent and very well could have cleaned the gunk out of the fuel system. I don't know... Then I added it to my wifes 2004 4-Runner (4.0 V6) with 32,000 miles. Less than a month later it was at the dealer with a suspected blown head gasket. We traded it off and I've never added acetone to anything ever again. Coincidence?

because .0000000002% (joking lol) acetone is gonna melt a semi-metallic headgasket lol

jambo101
01-20-2009, 03:30 AM
I would think that adding 3-6 ounces of any flammable liquid will improve your gas mileage a little bit because you are adding more fuel by adding "eg" Acetone.If adding this product is just to save a few pennies at the pump Gas would have to be around $20 a gallon before i would waste my time experimenting with it.

1NZYaris1
01-20-2009, 05:09 AM
Just found this thread ,and thought i would share a experiance ,i had about 6 years ago .
me and my mates used to buy old craped out cars and take out to my fathers
farm and race them until they died , one of these times we ran out of fuel
but in the work shop we had a 44 gallon drum , of acetone poured 10litres into the tank , the car went from idling at 750rpm to a idile of 3000rpm
touch the throttle and it would go straight to the limiter at 6500 .
Made for a lot of fun .We played with the blends (ie %) acetone to fuel
but never really sore any performance gain from it at all, if anything the more aceton we put in we gained revs and lost power.
Thats my 2 cents worth
Oh and both the cars we used it in caught fire through ruptered fuel lines
as the aceton ate through them .
but it was a lot of fun :biggrin:

Tamago
01-20-2009, 08:14 AM
I would think that adding 3-6 ounces of any flammable liquid will improve your gas mileage a little bit because you are adding more fuel by adding "eg" Acetone.If adding this product is just to save a few pennies at the pump Gas would have to be around $20 a gallon before i would waste my time experimenting with it.

that's not how it works but OK lol

Bredayaris
01-21-2009, 10:16 AM
I know someone who used a little bit of acetone to fill up a Toyota Starlet.
After a few weeks the petrol leaked out of the car.