Power Enterprise Supercharger JUST RELEASED!

[Power Enterprise Evan]

Which one do you prefer?

How much is a reasonable price to pay?

[at3GG]

well as of right now the only "plug and play", or "bolt on" option we have is a SC by Blitz. It has gotten good reviews aside from some PITA situations with installing it. If you want a turbo your gonna have to peice one together or take your chances with some iffy kits. Caliyaris has one SC left i believe @$3400. Seeing as its the only Blitz SC you can buy without a royal PITA, I'd say its worth it if youve got it

[LtNoogie]

Do you want to be boosted now? Or practically never? You can install a supercharger now for about $3500. You can talk and wish alot and a long time for a turbocharger kit. Just read all the turbocharger threads that have died off.

If someone had a turbocharger kit working today, I'd go turbo due to the higher hp gains. It just depends upon how long are you willing to wait for the thrill of the surge.

[CASTREX]

Which one do you prefer?

How much is a reasonable price to pay?


The eternal question.

No right answer for it.

So far there is one SC option available and Zero Turbo options available.

How do you compare that? ; )

[LtNoogie]

The eternal question.

So far there is one SC option available and Zero Turbo options available.

How do you compare that? ; )

You stated my thoughts much more succinctly!:thumbsup:

[PETERPOOP]

turbo, plug and play. 180whp please. 2500$

[Power Enterprise Evan]

$3770 SHIPPED TO 48 STATES for 142 WHP?
anything outside that pays the difference

worth it to you?

[CASTREX]

I just got a little chat with Evan.


This will be interesting.


Subscribed.

[Gideon]

Is this the ROTREX super charger kit, as seen on the Power Enterprises website?

http://www.powerenterpriseusa.net/Powernews/Rotrex/Toyota-Vitz-proto.jpg

At this point, I am very interested. Very VERY interested if you throw in an intercooler for future increases of boost. :D

[Power Enterprise Evan]

Yes, Gideon it is one in the same

I was speaking to Gastrex, evidently there are more than one engine version for the yaris available...

this one is good for the Toyota (Scion) NCP91(2WD)

250,000RPM
Centrifugal type, much more quieter and efficient, nearly the same power band as a turbo!!!
Up to 98% Efficiency
Traction Drive - NO gears, much less heat than blower type or roots type.
YES, THE PIGGY BACK IS REPROGRAMMABLE!!
YES, THERE ARE OPTIONS TO INCREASE BOOST!!
YES, IT WILL BOLT RIGHT UP, IN ABOUT 4 HOURS!!! (assuming you know what your doing:tongue:)
YES, IT WILL WORK WITH A STOCK SETUP!! we setup our kits for "safety" there is much more room for Power!!:evil:

MADE IN JAPAN AND DENMARK!!! NOT SOME CHINA KNOCK OFFS!!



Gastrex also noted that two other people here have tried or bought the system from Japan...

We Power Enterprise USA were NOT allow to sell, support or give any other advice/comments to the US market, as of TODAY 1/20/09 have received the OK from Rotrex to sell to the US market.

PE USA will support any kits purchased directly from us or our authorized dealers.

http://powerenterpriseusa.net/Powern...trex-news.html


Price will be $3770 SHIPPED to any upper 48 states any where else has to pay the difference.

http://powerenterpriseusa.net/Powernews/Rotrex/autosalon-08.jpg
http://powerenterpriseusa.net/Powernews/Rotrex/Toyota-Vitz-proto.jpg
The picture shows Toyota VITZ (Yaris) with Rotrex C15-60 charger.
A piggyback fuel controller (pre-programed & Reprogramable) included.
Boost pressure of 0.4kg/cm2 , no inter cooler, generates 142 whp.

http://powerenterpriseusa.net/Powernews/Rotrex/kit_vitz.jpg

Toyota VITZ kit consists of:
(all the parts shown on the photo left)
1. Pre-Programed & Programable Fuel controller
2. C15-60 super charger with oil cooler kit
3. Brackets, fasteners, pulley, belt, belt tensioner, tubing & hoses
$4350
http://powerenterpriseusa.net/Powernews/bb%20power.jpg




Toyota VITZ w/C15-60, 1st test without inter cooler produced 142WHP at 0.4kg/cm2 and produced 150WHP with inter cooler addition.

Remarks
■The kit is designed specifically for Toyota (Scion) NCP91(2WD)
■The fuel controller preprogramed with use of Power's Air Impulse
■91 or higher octane gas must be used.
■Spark plugs need to be changed to #7 heat range
■Recommended Engine oil: 40w or 50w


MODS: I will be signing up once I get the ok from my boss.... if you want me to remove this let me know, i will - Evan

[ChinoCharles]

The thread is fine, and good to see that we finally have a Rotrex unit on the market!

[PETERPOOP]

Throw in the intercooler for that price and shipping to hawaii included for that price also and i would be sold.

[Power Enterprise Evan]

Throw in the intercooler for that price and shipping to hawaii included for that price also and i would be sold.

Sorry the best I can offer is the shipping included to Hawaii....including an intercooler is out of the question...sorry

*Note since I am offering the shipping to Hawaii I will extend it to Alaska and any other US territory. This will be good until Feb 14th:wub:


you can use an OEM subaru intercooler or something similar.


Kits may also be picked up from our Irvine, CA office. Must be paid in cash if picked up.

[PETERPOOP]

Oh fart, it's my move now..


So guys, is this kit worth it? Where's the pros at. Pick this thing apart! I'm waiting.

[LtNoogie]

PETERPOOP, what? You don't even ask for a video of the thing running? You're getting soft, man.:tongue:

[Power Enterprise Evan]

Oh fart, it's my move now..


So guys, is this kit worth it? Where's the pros at. Pick this thing apart! I'm waiting.

:laughabove:

HAHAHA yes your move :drinking:

[PETERPOOP]

PETERPOOP, what? You don't even ask for a video of the thing running? You're getting soft, man.:tongue:

Good point. What was I thinking!


Yah give me a video of a vitz or yaris running this kit atleast! Jeez. Some 0-60 times? 1/4 mile times with this thing? Where's the videos!?!?!?!? :wink:

[mikenacarato]

gimme a few months to a year to save and im in. haha but seriously, so for this looks liek the route i wanna go, but coughing up 4gs? payment plans available? can i sign up for the power enterprises credit card? haha

[thebarber]

so do you have a better dyno graph? dyno SAE #'s?

have a dyno showing the tq curve?

dyno'd with any exhaust mods?

use camcon for the ecu tuning?

need a mule car for north american testing? send me a kit and ill have it up an running w/ a dyno in no time...

[Gideon]

Now that I remember, both ddongbap and saplaymate have/had this kit.

Both were met with difficulties, although I can't remember what they were.

[mikenacarato]

did they have the yaris specific kit or did they modify the xb kit?

[saplaymate]

Does this mean you are going to Warranty my Rotrex unit as well! Since I bought it from you!

[Gideon]

Does this mean you are going to Warranty my Rotrex unit as well! Since I bought it from you!

What went bad with your kit?

[PETERPOOP]

i still want videos. what kinda boost does this put down? what were the specs of the car on that dyno? exhaust? pulleys? intake? would this work with richard's manifold? would a bigger Throttle Body or richard's manifold make this kit throw cells? i guess it'd need to be retuned with a different manifold and throttle body, correct? since it's based only on the stock manifold and throttle body

[Gideon]

i still want videos. what kinda boost does this put down? what were the specs of the car on that dyno? exhaust? pulleys? intake? would this work with richard's manifold? would a bigger Throttle Body or richard's manifold make this kit throw cells? i guess it'd need to be retuned with a different manifold and throttle body, correct? since it's based only on the stock manifold and throttle body

Boost pressure is mentioned on the previous page with the additional information about the kit.

The piggyback is reprogrammable, so if you ended up with a new intake manifold and TB you would need to have the it retuned for that.

[staypuft]

wow i originally wanted this kit long time ago, i guess its too late now

[ddongbap]

Lol. Now its offical?

[cm07yaris]

Group buy?

[TheRealEnth]

gb

[Nexus1155]

But seriosuly is there a financing option I know some companies offer it now?, dumping 4k all at once isn't as ideal as it seems, I wouldn't mind $500 a month. Or would id be better to grab a credit card?

[Thej3sta2]

chirp chirp

[PETERPOOP]

They should throw in that intercooler. Bogus.

[CASTREX]

You can pick a small IC for like $50

Piping looks simple enough for a DIY



If the kit perfoms as advertize and all the bugs have been cured... then this is a really good option for some one looking for trouble free boost.

[PETERPOOP]

50$? show me where. Don't forget my lovely shipping rate to hawaii. DIY piping? Wouldn't mandrel bending be needed for the piping?

[CASTREX]

50$? show me where. Don't forget my lovely shipping rate to hawaii. DIY piping? Wouldn't mandrel bending be needed for the piping?

hehe missed the hawaii part....

But still not bad. See this one $47 + $78(shipping to HI):eek: = $125

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/CXRacing-Intercooler-Front-Mount-27x6x2-5-Civic-Golf_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trkparmsZ72Q3a1171Q7c66Q3a 2Q7c65Q3a12Q7c39Q3a1Q7c240Q3a1318Q7c301Q3a1Q7c293Q 3a1Q7c294Q3a50QQ_trksidZp3286Q2ec0Q2em14QQhashZite m300287047197QQitemZ300287047197QQptZMotorsQ5fCarQ 5fTruckQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories

You can also go to a local wrecked yard and look for a eclipse, audi, volvo, subaru OEM intercooler.

For this set up and for the amount of boost it will run... even the smallest of the OEM intercooler will do just fine! You can always upgrade it later on with a more shiny unit..

About the piping you just need to figure how many extra bends would you need and pick them on line or on a local store along with a couple of silicone couplings...

[PETERPOOP]

ah i see. thanks for the info. however, the junkyards here in hawaii are not like the ones in the mainland. i don't even know where one is!

[taKuto]

will this kit fit the canadian echo's?

[at3GG]

god i wish i had more money

[CASTREX]

will this kit fit the canadian echo's?

Nop


is for the NCP91 Yaris as stated by the OP

[at3GG]

or a car nut wife...

[lilredrocket]

Is the NCP91 just like the 1NZ-FE?

[mikenacarato]

ncp91 is body style, 1nzfe is engine code.

that kit is for the ncp91 yaris with 1nzfe engine

[lilredrocket]

Oh ok now I understand. Thank you for the fast reply. So in the end which s/c kit would be better? Cause the blitz you have a control knob to adjust it and this one looks like it could be used with richards intake manifold. I think the tb position is the same as stock and if not how much could the extra piping cost? Maybe thinking about buying a s/c with my tax return

[cali yaris]

No one wants more boosted options made available more than I do.

However, I'm going to point out that Power Enterprise is not yet a supporting vendor, and therefore not entitled to post blatant sales threads.

As soon as they are, I will cheer them on as much as anyone!

[PETERPOOP]

I don't like how this guy posted this initial thread and hasn't even come back since. Hit and run spam!

[Power Enterprise Evan]

Does this mean you are going to Warranty my Rotrex unit as well! Since I bought it from you!

We do not warranty any products unless they are purchased directly from PE USA or one of our direct dealers. at the time you circumvented the restriction that was in place by rotrex, buying it from japan voids any warranty or support from PE USA

we will offer support to any products purchased from us:thumbup:

[Power Enterprise Evan]

You can pick a small IC for like $50

Piping looks simple enough for a DIY



If the kit perfoms as advertize and all the bugs have been cured... then this is a really good option for some one looking for trouble free boost.

yes, the piping is very easy to manipulate, if you guys really dont want to spend the extra bending pipe, you can just get pipe, sand and a torch..

fill the pipe with sand, heat it up, bend it, cool it off and paint it black...

the sand helps keep the pipe from kinking when you bend it

:thumbsup:

[Power Enterprise Evan]

will this kit fit the canadian echo's?

yes as long as you have the same engine...

[Power Enterprise Evan]

as far as group buys... this is already discounted from the MSRP of $4190....

BUT... bring me 5 buyers with cash in hand...and i'll give you a better price....

[Power Enterprise Evan]

oh an yes we are now OFFICIAL vendors...

[cali yaris]

awesome, welcome to YarisWorld -- now someone pony up the money for this, we need more boosted Yarii !

[Thej3sta2]

^^ agreed

[at3GG]

looks like you're up J3sta....fork it over!

[Power Enterprise Evan]

and to answer the video question... we do not have any videos since most of the boosted yaris' are overseas....someone be the first and post some pics!!!

and as far as install goes.... my boss says about 4 hours, by a competent mechanic...

[CASTREX]

yes as long as you have the same engine...

^^^
Not true.... Just to clarify.


Even when the first gen Yaris (Echo) and the late Gen share the same engine 1NZ-FE, there are some some IMPORTANT differences onthe placement of the perifericals.

Just at the top of my head... the Throttel Body possition and Intake configuration is different and the Pulleys configuration is different as well.

So it PROBABLY won't be a plug n Play unit for a 1st gen Yaris ( ECHO ). Not to mention the ECU and wiring is different as well.

For a first gen Yaris you are better off looking for a supercharger from a 1st gen Scion xB. That is a much better match than the US spec Yaris.

[PETERPOOP]

how would i retune this thing if i added richard's intake manifold and a bigger throttle body?

how long is the warranty for? what kinda coverage?

+1 on a payment plan. 4k is a lot of money.

[staypuft]

i dont know 4100 for same hp as the blitz unit, saplaymate dyno'd his rotrex kit and made around 120 hp. why would i want to spend more for same power gains?

[Power Enterprise Evan]

^^^
Not true.... Just to clarify.


Even when the first gen Yaris (Echo) and the late Gen share the same engine 1NZ-FE, there are some some IMPORTANT differences onthe placement of the perifericals.

Just at the top of my head... the Throttel Body possition and Intake configuration is different and the Pulleys configuration is different as well.

So it PROBABLY won't be a plug n Play unit for a 1st gen Yaris ( ECHO ). Not to mention the ECU and wiring is different as well.

For a first gen Yaris you are better off looking for a supercharger from a 1st gen Scion xB. That is a much better match than the US spec Yaris.

thanks for that clarification :thumbsup:

[Gideon]

i dont know 4100 for same hp as the blitz unit, saplaymate dyno'd his rotrex kit and made around 120 hp. why would i want to spend more for same power gains?

He said originally $3770, I'm sure that's still the price as he hasn't edited his post stating that. :laugh:

Also saplaymate asked if their unit could be warrantied, which leads me to believe the kit they installed did not operate the way it was originally intended.

Not trying to get a discount from them, lol, just stating we don't know all the facts for the kits that both saplaymate and ddongbap have. (Anymore, I remember the threads, just don't remember the content. lol)

[Power Enterprise Evan]

i dont know 4100 for same hp as the blitz unit, saplaymate dyno'd his rotrex kit and made around 120 hp. why would i want to spend more for same power gains?

read from page 1 $4100 is the MSRP price....$3770 SHIPPED is the PRICE

and the power gains are different...

[lilredrocket]

i dont know 4100 for same hp as the blitz unit, saplaymate dyno'd his rotrex kit and made around 120 hp. why would i want to spend more for same power gains?


It would be easier to replace the pully for higher boosting the ability to easily add an intercooler and maybe richards manifold.

Personally I like the looks of this kit more than the blitz kit. Like I said if my tax return is enough I might buy this kit.

[PETERPOOP]

but you'd have to retune with richard's intake manifold i'd assume. and if you got a pulley for higher boosting. i dont want to spend hundreds of more dollars trying to find a guy who can tune this thing here in hawaii. i can see it now... ah

[Power Enterprise Evan]

how would i retune this thing if i added richard's intake manifold and a bigger throttle body?

how long is the warranty for? what kinda coverage?

+1 on a payment plan. 4k is a lot of money.

sorry we do not offer payment plans...

prob be cheaper to get a credit card and just charge it.... or paypal has some payment plans

[cali yaris]

solid pulley or clutch type (like the Blitz) on this kit?

[PETERPOOP]

here's a video of the kit on ddongbap's car. Just a video of idle though.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wh3ryyqtnG4

[Power Enterprise Evan]

solid pulley or clutch type (like the Blitz) on this kit?

SOLID

[at3GG]

this thing is strange looking....cool though

[anonymous user]

This was the kit that i originally wanted. Too bad it came out (official release -U.S.) after i made up my mind to work on the other car. We shall see. That pricing is not that bad, but $3700 in my wrx (powerwise) would give me like 3x the power this puts down. So it is a tough choice.
I just had my eye on a $2800 coilover from KW to replace my tein flex's. We'll see.

[cali yaris]

A solid pulley could be replaced with an overdrive pulley to push more boost. This has potental to make more power with that configuration.

[PETERPOOP]

it'd void the warranty though. doh

[cali yaris]

yeah, I guess I don't really think about warranties, I voided my Toyota warranty the second week I had my car. :biggrin:

[PETERPOOP]

trust me, i know what you mean. I put a 6" lift on my brand new truck 6 months after i got it. And voided the yaris warranty within 6 months too. however, i trusted the quality of the items being put on that would void my warranty. there are a lot of questions about this kit still...

[cali yaris]

They should install one on a USDM car, drive the snot out of it and report the results. Before/after dyno, compression, plug condition, etc. at 100, 1000, and 5000 miles.

THAT would get people on board. But hey - that's easy for me to say from the comfort of my office chair. :smile:

[saplaymate]

We do not warranty any products unless they are purchased directly from PE USA or one of our direct dealers. at the time you circumvented the restriction that was in place by rotrex, buying it from japan voids any warranty or support from PE USA

we will offer support to any products purchased from us:thumbup:


Hmmm, was that the story.

Anyone with questions feel free to PM me.

[RHDVIPbB]

Had one of their kits on my old xB about 3 years ago. There was also a girl from Ohio with one. Was a nice kit. I didn't like that I had to modify the plastic valve cover to make it fit though. As far as FMIC, I never got that far. I sold it before I finished the piping work. Was a failry simple plan and had plenty of room in the box.

Will have to think about getting one for the Yaris. I take it that the kit will fit the sedan without any problems? If so, give me some time to put some money aside.

Also, did they change any of the oil cooling system?

[blacksandiegovitz]

read from page 1 $4100 is the MSRP price....$3770 SHIPPED is the PRICE

and the power gains are different...

Man everything sounds really good so far. My question is that it says estimated time of install about 4 hours if you're a good wrench( I think I am) but does the kit include every nut/bolt/piping /couple/whetever to disasemble a stock car and install the basic kit and fire the car up with-out needing any other parts other than colder spark plugs and better gas ? I would buy this kit over the blitz based on the upgrade-ability and ease of being able to upgrade to a fmic with this kit .

[PETERPOOP]

please buy it so you can make me buy it.

[blacksandiegovitz]

please buy it so you can make me buy it.

Oh man , I'm all over this , but Imo for $3700 the kit better include every last nut bolt and gasket to install this on my car with-out having to run to the auto parts store for random nuts/bolts/gasket or worse be in the middle of the install only to find a missing gasket or something missing from the kit that would need to be sourced/time-out for shipping and leaving my daily driver down for weeks, that my only big concern with the kit .

[PETERPOOP]

i know what you mean. too many bad luck stories with the blitz kit already. this kit has already shown problems to the guys who own it in the US. maybe the US version is better. it does have the warranty. however, like you said, does it come with everything? this guy who is repping this company sure isn't active on here enough for my liking. we need a guinea pig for this kit...

[PHXDEMON]

I would be in if I could afford this kit.

[whooppee777]

with one month left before i pay off the blitz supercharger i wonder if i should have waited for this kit or another kit by someone else.

but then i remember that the blitz kit has been out for awhile with only minor hassles with installation and virtually no issues once PROPERLY installed.

i'll stick with the blitz supercharger.

but someone else should get some ballz and just buy this thing.

[Chupacabra]

Appears to be a nice unit but the price is really pushing me away from this. That's a lot of money for 50HP IMO.:frown:

[Jerkratt]

working on a few other things first... but u can bet if i decide to go non turbo ill go head to head with u whooppee... u know we have been battling since day one.. =)

BTW u staying over for streetwars 5?

[jmew0ng]

http://powerenterpriseusa.net/Powernews/Rotrex/autosalon-08.jpg

Is it me or does that engine cover look like the one for the TS :confused:

[cali yaris]

Like I said, without a car out there where it was just bolted on and hammered for 5000 miles, it's hard to say that it will be problem-free. saplaymate seems to be our test subject, his seems to work fine.

[33OH]

-

[Power Enterprise Evan]

you guys talk about working on cars like its putting on your clothes....just look at the kit.... really how many parts are there?? now look at your car...does it look like the VG30 engine bay???

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v293/teamfrost/DSC02371.jpg

NOOO there is plenty of room to work with....

GET GOING!!!

[Power Enterprise Evan]

Except they won't warranty his because he purchased it from Japan? Makes it like there could be issues or changes they have found or done. Afterall, it's the same manufacturer. :iono:

NO, there has been no changes...its like this,

PE USA wasnt allowed to sell or support the Rotrex kit, this is directly from Rotrex.

We are not going to jeopardize our relationship with Rotrex just because someone wanted to be creative and buy one from Japan...

thats the risk you take...you want something bad enough, most will go to extremes to get it, but in the end you pay the price of reading instructions in japanese, and having no support in the US...

[jinxor]

This is looking more like a fight now :iono:

PE, is it possible to get a link to the 500+ kits photos/reviews/pictures. I would be interested in this kit but just saying that the kit is orsm wouldnt encourage me to spend 4k on a SC.
I hope you understand the point. What would you do if you were in the same position

[Chupacabra]

still a LOT of money for 50HP. What I don't understand is though....why not do a DIY write-up on an installation and get a few to YW members for a discounted price to provide real life feedback for US people? That's the only way that somebody is going to spend 1/3 of what the car costs for a supercharger that adds 50ponies.

[Power Enterprise Evan]

Very nice kit and option from Japan, it would be great and a lot helpful if there's a test fitted stock YARIS with this kit to provide photo, video, dyno results (with video not just a graph), daily driving reliability and personal experiences to back up the HP claim and will really help selling this kit.

As mention before this is a "newly" released kit, therefore there are no current owners of this kit here in the US...and as was mentioned before there seems to be 2 kit owners that brought the kit over by their own means....

For those of you who talk like this kit was designed and being offered by a brand new company please look in to the history and R&D that both Rotrex and Power Enterprise put into these kits, both companies are not some fly by night company.

We generally DO NOT sell like this to the general public, only dealers. If you feel more comfortable for any reason buying from your local dealer versus us I can arrange that sale as well.

Again, my offer still stands if you are local and need assistance in installation I will offer my help so far this sale is still going on.

Evan

[whooppee777]

still a LOT of money for 50HP. What I don't understand is though....why not do a DIY write-up on an installation and get a few to YW members for a discounted price to provide real life feedback for US people? That's the only way that somebody is going to spend 1/3 of what the car costs for a supercharger that adds 50ponies.

on this car 50 horsepower will make a world of difference

[blacksandiegovitz]

As mention before this is a "newly" released kit, therefore there are no current owners of this kit here in the US...and as was mentioned before there seems to be 2 kit owners that brought the kit over by their own means....

For those of you who talk like this kit was designed and being offered by a brand new company please look in to the history and R&D that both Rotrex and Power Enterprise put into these kits, both companies are not some fly by night company.

We generally DO NOT sell like this to the general public, only dealers. If you feel more comfortable for any reason buying from your local dealer versus us I can arrange that sale as well.

Again, my offer still stands if you are local and need assistance in installation I will offer my help so far this sale is still going on.

Evan

I had asked a "real question" and you didn't respond , Does this kit come with ever last nut, bolt , gasket , coupler, clamp , to take apart a stock yaris and install this kit without any trips to the harware store or having to source some random gasket that leave my car down for weeks . For 4k this better be a stright bolt-on affair , btw the install is not a problem bro I just want a complete kit that will fire up and run good the first time .

[ChinoCharles]

Just a friendly reminder to respect the vendors. If you don't want it, don't post. Carry on. :smile:

[saplaymate]

Comes with everything, the good parts are the Rotrex charger (which without exceeding it's warrantied limits) is NOT upgradable; the Fuel controller (Split Second) works great easy to use......that bad parts are 1 mount: left over Bb part doesn't correctly fit and rubs coupling into the intake 2 filter and MAF adapter CRAP 3 lower pipe bad workmanship, mount cracked 4 belt that doesn't fit 5 And a company rep that assumed I didn't know the basic mechanics and tried the feed me BS on the phone. Who also had to do with selling me my kit:rolleyes:

[blacksandiegovitz]

Just a friendly reminder to respect the vendors. If you don't want it, don't post. Carry on. :smile:

Oh , I want this kit and I have money , but I'm tring to ask some serious question to the vendor stright up thats all . Imo he was comming off a little "fresh" in a couple of his post and nobody is even talking shit we're just tring to get some "real" answers about this kit . I've been around the "import world" for a few year now and I know that this is one of the best s/c kits out there , so i'm not baggin' one bit . I just need a couple answers before I drop 4k thats all .

[PETERPOOP]

Yah, give the man some answers. blacksandiegovitz is going to be the guinea pig. let's get this rolling

[ztrack157]

Just a friendly reminder to respect the vendors. If you don't want it, don't post. Carry on. :smile:



Charles you had no reason deleting my post. It was not offensive. I offered suggestions and thoughts. I have interest in this but I will express my opinions whether he is a vendor or not.

[RHDVIPbB]

Man, I would love to have another PE kit. The one for my xB was pretty much hassle free. Too bad I am having a kid later on this year. Will have to put this upgrade on the list for next year.

[Chupacabra]

Charles you had no reason deleting my post. It was not offensive. I offered suggestions and thoughts. I have interest in this but I will express my opinions whether he is a vendor or not.

right on.:thumbsup:

[ZING]

on this car 50 horsepower will make a world of difference


Especially on mine, since I'm running on 84HP. Can't even imagine it!

But I live far, can't order, will not have support, prolly f$ck up on installation.

[Chupacabra]

on this car 50 horsepower will make a world of difference

That wasn't my point. I know it will make a big difference. I am talking dollar per HP....it is expensive for 50HP.

[thebarber]

100$/hp isnt bad on a small displacement 4cyl

[Power Enterprise Evan]

I had asked a "real question" and you didn't respond , Does this kit come with ever last nut, bolt , gasket , coupler, clamp , to take apart a stock yaris and install this kit without any trips to the harware store or having to source some random gasket that leave my car down for weeks . For 4k this better be a stright bolt-on affair , btw the install is not a problem bro I just want a complete kit that will fire up and run good the first time .

the kit is complete install from A-Z

your tools, your time, and your knowledge is needed

[Power Enterprise Evan]

Just a friendly reminder to respect the vendors. If you don't want it, don't post. Carry on. :smile:

Thank you Charles

[Power Enterprise Evan]

Especially on mine, since I'm running on 84HP. Can't even imagine it!

But I live far, can't order, will not have support, prolly f$ck up on installation.

For those of you who are complaining about dollar per horsepower ratio maybe you should stick to Nitrous Oxide, that gives you the most bang for your buck.

Again, this kit is NOT for everyone, I understand that, I apologize to the seriously interested people that have to read through the emotional garbage.

For those of you who truly understand horsepower numbers, 50 horsepower on any ONE modification is HUGE!!

On a car that is equipped with 84 horsepower, if that is at the wheels, thats OVER a 50% gain, please tell me another form of modification for the dollar per horsepower that would achieve that kind of gain.


ONE LAST TIME, MY OFFER STILL STANDS, I WILL GIVE UP ONE WEEKEND TO HELP SOMEONE INSTALL THIS KIT LOCALLY, OR I WILL OUTRIGHT INSTALL IT FOR A NOMINAL CHARGE.

Unfortunately I have to report to my boss in 1 weeks time to see if this forum venture has gained any traction, if I do not receive any solid buyers before that time frame there is a good chance this offer will be canceled all together and any potential buyers will be looking back at retail prices to purchase....

Thank you for your interest,

Evan

[Chupacabra]

Wow....only giving us a week. Sounds like the pressure cooker is on....no thanks. I want to feel comfortable and see some real life examples. I recall a claim years ago by a vendor for Z-Engineering SC's for Gen IV VW's. All roses and there were TONS of problems. According to him though, in Germany....everything was fine, folks had thousands up on thousands of miles. I am not challenging the gain....50 HP is fantastic and the best delivery for this car for sure is SC'ing but c'mon man....we want to see some average Joe's put this thing on and drive the car HERE. To pull this off the table without some real life feedback is just ridiculous....:confused:

[ztrack157]

Agreed. It is our money after all and we as buyers should be objective to potential purchases and ask as many question as possible. Like I said before show me results first, do not tell me about them. You as a vendor should at least understand some of the concerns. $4k is not chump change to most of us.

[Power Enterprise Evan]

Wow....only giving us a week. Sounds like the pressure cooker is on....no thanks. I want to feel comfortable and see some real life examples. I recall a claim years ago by a vendor for Z-Engineering SC's for Gen IV VW's. All roses and there were TONS of problems. According to him though, in Germany....everything was fine, folks had thousands up on thousands of miles. I am not challenging the gain....50 HP is fantastic and the best delivery for this car for sure is SC'ing but c'mon man....we want to see some average Joe's put this thing on and drive the car HERE. To pull this off the table without some real life feedback is just ridiculous....:confused:

1 week I have to report in, does not necessary mean the offer is over... it will just determine if forums are worth the time and money for the company to invest...

[taKuto]

:frown: the times i hate being in canada. Always missing out the good stuff in cali. I probably would've jumped if I had help for installing it.

It is unfortunate that no one wants to take the chance on this SC. It looks so much nicer than the blitz unit IMO.

Has there been any test cars you've put these on Evan? Maybe you could have some people test the unit, do a few videos and reviews, and then remove them if they don't want to buy it so we can at least get some more testimonies on it? I'd really like to see this kit start selling, and I think just a review from someone would contribute to your sales.

[at3GG]

I meant absolutely no offense in my post. In my own mind, i am pretty sure that this is a great product and a great buy. But with only pctures, and the sellers word, you can see why its difficult. As wonderful as it is that these kits have been sold in Japan, it doesnt really help here. Get one on a USDM, test and confirm it,(like stated earlier, even if you take it back off!) and im sure you'll make at least a few sales on here. Every one of us would love to see someone buy one. Best of luck!

[Power Enterprise Evan]

:frown: the times i hate being in canada. Always missing out the good stuff in cali. I probably would've jumped if I had help for installing it.

It is unfortunate that no one wants to take the chance on this SC. It looks so much nicer than the blitz unit IMO.

Has there been any test cars you've put these on Evan? Maybe you could have some people test the unit, do a few videos and reviews, and then remove them if they don't want to buy it so we can at least get some more testimonies on it? I'd really like to see this kit start selling, and I think just a review from someone would contribute to your sales.


Thanks for the input, there are few and far between for US owners, that is one of the main reason why I am willing to take 1 weekend to get 1 persons car going.....If they are as far as Las Vegas, San Diego, or Nor Cal i would be going if they covered transportation costs, I will pay for my own room and board.

[blacksandiegovitz]

the kit is complete install from A-Z

your tools, your time, and your knowledge is needed


Thanks man , I'll hold you to that if I pick up this kit . Is there any price differnce if I pick up the kit in person???

[Power Enterprise Evan]

Thanks man , I'll hold you to that if I pick up this kit . Is there any price differnce if I pick up the kit in person???

$3770 out the door, tax applies if you live in CA

[taKuto]

blacksandiegovitz, impulse buy! Get it installed this week with evan's help! :biggrin:

[PETERPOOP]

do it

[cm07yaris]

I would soo impulse buy, but I just used mine for the year on a 52" flatscreen and Blu-Ray player...s#%t!

[taKuto]

return it! they'll get cheaper anyways, whereas the kit will probably not budge on the price for a while :smile:

[blacksandiegovitz]

blacksandiegovitz, impulse buy! Get it installed this week with evan's help! :biggrin:

Um yeah, sorry Im not that baller.... Yet:thumbsup:
I could knock this install out in the estimated time no worries if this kit is really a-z complete . Im a pretty good wrench and since I sold all my project cars(e30 track car, drag dsm, 450+hp daily 1g eclipse) I've really been fiending for boost/ a "big" install of some kind . All you guys are really tempting me to get this kit, STOP IT ! :biggrin:

[LtNoogie]

Boost is good. Next meet, we could take side by side pictures or your PE kit next to my Blitz kit. Might frustrate the turbo loving crowd, however.:smile:

[kou]

if the price is the same in a couple of months i will get this.

[largeorangefont]

If you need a test car to prove to these people that this supercharger works, let me know - I am in Irvine.

[eTiMaGo]

I have no doubts that the supercharger works, these Rotrex units are pretty badass, like a perfect balance of turbo boost with blower responsiveness. It's just the experiences of the early adopters which put a damper on things, really. So yes, please, let's see what it can do now :smile:

[PETERPOOP]

Might frustrate the turbo loving crowd, however.:smile:

There is an update coming our way soon... :cool:

[Power Enterprise Evan]

If you need a test car to prove to these people that this supercharger works, let me know - I am in Irvine.

Offer still stands!! come one guys!! lots of talk but no takers!!!:bellyroll:

need someone doing :burnrubber:

[PETERPOOP]

I believe largeorangefont wants a free S/C.

[Chupacabra]

I believe largeorangefont wants a free S/C.

Ha...ha. I believe you are right. :eyebulge:

Nothing wrong with that....:thumbup:

[Power Enterprise Evan]

not going to happen sorry....who is really serious on here and has the funds to back it up?

[BLAZINBLUEVITZ]

soooo there's NOT going to be a group buy????

[33OH]

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[kou]

not going to happen sorry....who is really serious on here and has the funds to back it up?

give me a few months and the same deal and i will buy one.

[Power Enterprise Evan]

give me a few months and the same deal and i will buy one.

ok hopefully this deal will still be available then :thumbsup:

[Chupacabra]

not going to happen sorry....who is really serious on here and has the funds to back it up?


So now you think that it's strictly a money thing? Not even close....I could buy 10 of these things right now. That's not the point....

WE WANT TO SEE REAL EXAMPLES THAT IT WORKS AND IS SUSTAINABLE FOR A DAILY DRIVER. Plus....once you factor in the economy...it's even more reason that you'd want to extend this offer because I don't car how much money somebody has....$4K is $4K and it's a lot of money for something that we really don't need but would like. Sounds like all you care about is your sales numbers. Raise the price on this and NOBODY will buy it.

[Tamago]

i recommend doing meth/water injection instead of an intercooler.

[cali yaris]

Next meet, we could take side by side pictures or your PE kit next to my Blitz kit. Might frustrate the turbo loving crowd, however.

It won't.

[m911gt]

hmmm...my interest is peaking

[Power Enterprise Evan]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QzNmUaBsatU


This is a 350Z on the dyno.... for those of you who are not familiar with our products...

average Z is pushing 450WHP with our kits

[ZING]

For those of you who are complaining about dollar per horsepower ratio maybe you should stick to Nitrous Oxide, that gives you the most bang for your buck.


Evan


You misunderstood me. I meant that the 50HP is fking great on my car! But since I live Lebanon I will have no customer support. I'm out.

[PETERPOOP]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QzNmUaBsatU


This is a 350Z on the dyno.... for those of you who are not familiar with our products...

average Z is pushing 450WHP with our kits

Too bad it isn't a yaris.

[BLAZINBLUEVITZ]

not going to happen sorry....who is really serious on here and has the funds to back it up?


serious with funds but your in CALI and im in NY. will one of your authorized installers in ny(VINNY TEN) help me with any problems????

[largeorangefont]

I believe largeorangefont wants a free S/C.

I'd take one if it was offered. The positive impact it would create is more than worth the price of a kit. The full write up and documentation I could provide I would probably sell at least 5 kits very quickly between the Yaris and Xa communities. Word of mouth and documented personal experience is the type of marketing needed for an expensive product like this geard toward the ultracompact segment.

[33OH]

I'd take one if it was offered, and the positive impact it woudl create woudl be more than worth the price of a kit. With the full write up and documentation I could provide I would wager they would sell at least 5 kits very quickly between the Yaris and Xa communities. Word of mouth and documented personal experience is the type of marketing needed for an expensive product like this geard toward the ultracompact segment.

+1. At the moment, if someone had this kit on their car successfully and for a period of time, I would buy it in a heartbeat. Tax return time.

Otherwise, I'm not risking my daily driver and $4,000 to be the guinea pig for a company who won't test their products.

[Power Enterprise Evan]

serious with funds but your in CALI and im in NY. will one of your authorized installers in ny(VINNY TEN) help me with any problems????

yes, vinny is very knowledgeable

[Power Enterprise Evan]

+1. At the moment, if someone had this kit on their car successfully and for a period of time, I would buy it in a heartbeat. Tax return time.

Otherwise, I'm not risking my daily driver and $4,000 to be the guinea pig for a company who won't test their products.

I'd take one if it was offered. The positive impact it would create is more than worth the price of a kit. The full write up and documentation I could provide I would probably sell at least 5 kits very quickly between the Yaris and Xa communities. Word of mouth and documented personal experience is the type of marketing needed for an expensive product like this geard toward the ultracompact segment.


I still do not understand why you guys keep insisting that this product has never been tested.... it has been in the Japan and European markets for well over a year....ya you can give me all the grief you want that its not tested here in the US. Well, no one is getting any free kits ONE, TWO if you are in Irvine (largeorangefont) and want the kit I can help you with the install....

Please stop complaining....if the kit is out of your budget please move on...thank you for looking...

[33OH]

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[Power Enterprise Evan]

People in Japan can also tune turbo's onto our car. We have yet to have a successfully tuned turbo on one of our USDM cars that I'm aware of.

Should I start selling turbos and just say that since people in Japan can do it we can too?

I appreciate your offer of an install, and this will be my last post on this thread, but until this product is tested on OUR car, this is a no-go for me. And that is the only reason why.

you can do whatever you want or claim, its your reputation:clap:

thank you for your interest, :thumbsup:

[KCALB SIRAY]

I still do not understand why you guys keep insisting that this product has never been tested.... it has been in the Japan and European markets for well over a year....ya you can give me all the grief you want that its not tested here in the US. Well, no one is getting any free kits ONE, TWO if you are in Irvine (largeorangefont) and want the kit I can help you with the install....

Please stop complaining....if the kit is out of your budget please move on...thank you for looking...

You must see what people want here. If you don't understand it, I can't understand why you would sell it. Warrenty aside, the USDM yaris differs from others in some ways and what they are looking for is for you to say and show that this kit will pose no problem and be a direct bolt on kit. I have yet to see you make that statement. If I'm wrong, I'll go over the entire post in a minute here and check just to make sure.

[Power Enterprise Evan]

You must see what people want here. If you don't understand it, I can't understand why you would sell it. Warrenty aside, the USDM yaris differs from others in some ways and what they are looking for is for you to say and show that this kit will pose no problem and be a direct bolt on kit. I have yet to see you make that statement. If I'm wrong, I'll go over the entire post in a minute here and check just to make sure.

before you start posting random things on here please read the ENTIRE thread throughly....

the kit is complete install from A-Z

your tools, your time, and your knowledge is needed

[KCALB SIRAY]

before you start posting random things on here please read the ENTIRE thread throughly....

Why the defensive remark? My post was for clarification on the subject, not a random post. Nothing but a negative attitude from the get go from you on peoples questions. I've seen you dance around questions over the past few days and not seen anything responsive to your claims. I just read over the thread and see no results on a USDM model Yaris and nothing to back it up but words. I can say for a fact you do not have my vote or my money if you continue to be defensive in the product you sell

[mikenacarato]

this kit will fit the usdm yaris. it says it will. 1nzfe is our engine code as well so there arent any differences, if there were, it wouldnt be a 1nzfe. how about someone do something productive with this thread and just get it. i could tell you right now if i had the money, i would have already ordered one. i plan to eventually in a few months so if no one grows a pair by then ill get it. quit asking repetative questions people and read from start to finish.

as far as the turbo stuff goes too, we can do what the jdm yarii do as well its all just a matter of finding the right places to get the right stuff. so if there are minor electrical wiring differences use your smarts and figure it out. not everything has to be plug and play for it to work.

[Power Enterprise Evan]

Really, KCALB SIRAY, it has come down to this, so many talkers here... no one is willing to step up to the plate, let me see someone show up with the cash, then feel free to ask all the legit questions they want... from what I see and read there are a lot of big shots, with no $$ to back it up....

according to
So now you think that it's strictly a money thing? Not even close....I could buy 10 of these things right now. That's not the point....

WE WANT TO SEE REAL EXAMPLES THAT IT WORKS AND IS SUSTAINABLE FOR A DAILY DRIVER. Plus....once you factor in the economy...it's even more reason that you'd want to extend this offer because I don't car how much money somebody has....$4K is $4K and it's a lot of money for something that we really don't need but would like. Sounds like all you care about is your sales numbers. Raise the price on this and NOBODY will buy it.

he has enough for 10 units!! WOW impressive....i wish i was big ballin it too

I dont know how you do your shopping, but I buy my things from stores and large companies, why ??? because I know its an establishment and not a person that may or may not stand their products.... I am merely selling a product on here...the product I sell is backed by Rotrex and PE USA. Not to mention I am willing to stand by the product and take my OWN time and help someone with the install and questions....

So please if you have something constructive to add carry on, if not please do not post....

[Power Enterprise Evan]

this kit will fit the usdm yaris. it says it will. 1nzfe is our engine code as well so there arent any differences, if there were, it wouldnt be a 1nzfe. how about someone do something productive with this thread and just get it. i could tell you right now if i had the money, i would have already ordered one. i plan to eventually in a few months so if no one grows a pair by then ill get it. quit asking repetative questions people and read from start to finish.

THANK YOU FOR A USEFUL COMMENT :clap::thumbup:

[mikenacarato]

man if i had to money i would have already had one by now haha. i wish i could get a power enterprises credit card haha...financing anyone? ;)

[Power Enterprise Evan]

man if i had to money i would have already had one by now haha. i wish i could get a power enterprises credit card haha...financing anyone? ;)

sorry wish i could, but the big boss in japan had bad experiences with it so no more...:thumbdown:

[mikenacarato]

aaww shoot. :(

[Kaotic Lazagna]

The 1st gen Box and xA have 1NZ-FE motors too, but their turbo/sc kits don't directly bolt onto our cars.

[Tamago]

The 1st gen Box and xA have 1NZ-FE motors too, but their turbo/sc kits don't directly bolt onto our cars.


but, it has the same engine!!!!!

it must fit!!!!!

that's why the xB Greddy kit bolts up perfectly to my xA :laugh::mad::cry:


:sarcasm:

[Kaotic Lazagna]

A suggestion, why not take care of the tax for someone who would be interested to go to your shop and buy and install the kit? Compromise for everyone. No free kit, but the person will have a discount for being a "guinea pig", and will be able to provide detailed photos of the install. Just a suggestion.

[Kaotic Lazagna]

but, it has the same engine!!!!!

it must fit!!!!!

that's why the xB Greddy kit bolts up perfectly to my xA :laugh::mad::cry:


:sarcasm:

:laugh::laugh::laugh: Love the sarcasm.

[at3GG]

So you refuse to answer questions for anyone but someone who thinks $4K is nothing. I dont care if this post gets deleted, your a d*ick and I hope nobody buys your product. All we want is proof that it works on OUR car. Not a JDM one. You refuse to be truthful about why you wont even TEST one here. "oh well it works overseas"....sorry not good enough. I will have no sympathy for anyone who buys this and encounters problems. Im not an a**hole either so hopefully i didnt piss any other members off, if i did, i apologize....to you and you alone. Especially Chino, i know you try to keep the peace but i feel it needed to be said. PM me if you have any concerns.

[mikenacarato]

ok your saying a turbo or s/c kit for ANOTHER car wont fit...well its not the same car. different cars run lines differently and wont have the same clearances. were talking about the same car with the same engine...it will fit.

[Kaotic Lazagna]

ok your saying a turbo or s/c kit for ANOTHER car wont fit...well its not the same car. different cars run lines differently and wont have the same clearances. were talking about the same car with the same engine...it will fit.

Well, you did just say 1NZ-FE. Okay, a Yaris is a Yaris right? So how come JDM bumpers won't fit our USDM ones unless we get a JDM crash bar? "Same car" right?

[mikenacarato]

because we dont know how to drive here and have to have thicker reinforcement bars...and apparantly not too many of us know how to work on cars here either...

[Kaotic Lazagna]

because we dont know how to drive here and have to have thicker reinforcement bars...and apparantly not too many of us know how to work on cars here either...

This referring to me?

[mikenacarato]

i didnt say anyone in specific.

[Kaotic Lazagna]

i didnt say anyone in specific.

In that case, nvm.

[KCALB SIRAY]

this kit will fit the usdm yaris. it says it will. 1nzfe is our engine code as well so there arent any differences, if there were, it wouldnt be a 1nzfe. how about someone do something productive with this thread and just get it. i could tell you right now if i had the money, i would have already ordered one. i plan to eventually in a few months so if no one grows a pair by then ill get it. quit asking repetative questions people and read from start to finish.

as far as the turbo stuff goes too, we can do what the jdm yarii do as well its all just a matter of finding the right places to get the right stuff. so if there are minor electrical wiring differences use your smarts and figure it out. not everything has to be plug and play for it to work.

Mike, I respect your points, truely, but my statements were to answer the simple questions and getting results for our novice members who might want to tackle something a bit bigger than say, putting an exhaust on from TRD. You and I are in a different class than some of our members when it comes to building and installing. :respekt::drinking:
Really, KCALB SIRAY, it has come down to this, so many talkers here... no one is willing to step up to the plate, let me see someone show up with the cash, then feel free to ask all the legit questions they want... from what I see and read there are a lot of big shots, with no $$ to back it up....

according to


he has enough for 10 units!! WOW impressive....i wish i was big ballin it too

I dont know how you do your shopping, but I buy my things from stores and large companies, why ??? because I know its an establishment and not a person that may or may not stand their products.... I am merely selling a product on here...the product I sell is backed by Rotrex and PE USA. Not to mention I am willing to stand by the product and take my OWN time and help someone with the install and questions....

So please if you have something constructive to add carry on, if not please do not post....

I'm not looking to argue, I have my own plans on what I'm doing with mine. Like it or not, selling a product without full testing in all markets does not work for everyone. My approach with this thread would have been a feeler and would have taken the data back to my employer with the suggestions. Battles and name calling doesn't help the product move IMO. Good luck with the sale and I hope you do not take anymore offense to these suggestions:thumbsup:

[Kaotic Lazagna]

Mike, I respect your points, truely, but my statements were to answer the simple questions and getting results for our novice members who might want to tackle something a bit bigger than say, putting an exhaust on from TRD. You and I are in a different class than some of our members when it comes to building and installing. :respekt::drinking:


I'm not looking to argue, I have my own plans on what I'm doing with mine. Like it or not, selling a product without full testing in all markets does not work for everyone. My approach with this thread would have been a feeler and would have taken the data back to my employer with the suggestions. Battles and name calling doesn't help the product move IMO. Good luck with the sale and I hope you do not take anymore offense to these suggestions:thumbsup:

Both very true, and very well-said.

[blacksandiegovitz]

So you refuse to answer questions for anyone but someone who thinks $4K is nothing. I dont care if this post gets deleted, your a d*ick and I hope nobody buys your product. All we want is proof that it works on OUR car. Not a JDM one. You refuse to be truthful about why you wont even TEST one here. "oh well it works overseas"....sorry not good enough. I will have no sympathy for anyone who buys this and encounters problems. Im not an a**hole either so hopefully i didnt piss any other members off, if i did, i apologize....to you and you alone. Especially Chino, i know you try to keep the peace but i feel it needed to be said. PM me if you have any concerns.

^^^^^ +1,000000000000000000

[Chupacabra]

^^^^^ +1,000000000000000000

better watch out....if you speak your "own" mind around here, you might be threatened with banishment. :frown:

Apparently...this is a one way street...not room for two lanes or different points of view. We should sugarcoat everything and be nice to people when they have something to sell us.:frown:

That is the problem with the world right now and why shit is out of control....everybody wants to play politics and nobody wants to hear the truth. Call it at face value and your bound to be reprimanded in some way.

Sorry for the divergence.....back on topic.

[mikenacarato]

what people dont seem to understand here is THE CARS HAVE THE SAME ENGINE AND CHASSIS CODES!@!@@!!@ the part will fit or else they wouldnt be the same. and the body panels/ bumper supports have nothing to do with the chassis codes nor will it affect the install of this supercharger. for f**cks sake just look at some damn engine bay pics if your that hard headed.

[anonymous user]

If I could jump in this heated debate for a second.
I think this kit is the cat's meow, but getting someone to be the first on here is tough. Although I'm decently well versed as a weekend mechanic, I don't know enough about toyota's to say if this is a bolt-on affair.
In my experience, MANY parts designed as bolt-on need some sort of modification, for any car. I.E. strut bar rubs a.c. line, coilover didn't come with a brakeline bracket, etc.

But as far as options go, people, this is a viable S.C. option. To go from 85 WHP o.e.m. to 142-150 WHP with this kit is amazing.
If I were in the market for this kit right now, this would be the be all end all of my power gain searching. With a few more bolt ons that other vendors offer, I'd say you could add another 10-15 WHP or so.
But without this kit on a car on american soil dyno, i'd say you still need to prove the power gains as substantial as you suggest.

OK, carry on.

[Chupacabra]

what people dont seem to understand here is THE CARS HAVE THE SAME ENGINE AND CHASSIS CODES!@!@@!!@ the part will fit or else they wouldnt be the same. and the body panels/ bumper supports have nothing to do with the chassis codes nor will it affect the install of this supercharger. for f**cks sake just look at some damn engine bay pics if your that hard headed.

Mike,
I think that the real concern is as to whether or not this is a "true" 100% bolt on, no modifications whatsoever modification (hardware wise).

[whooppee777]

The 1st gen Box and xA have 1NZ-FE motors too, but their turbo/sc kits don't directly bolt onto our cars.

but, it has the same engine!!!!!

it must fit!!!!!

that's why the xB Greddy kit bolts up perfectly to my xA :laugh::mad::cry:


:sarcasm:

i've seen it with my own 2 eyes. the engine can have the same code but not be the same

i was looking at getting the 1st gen Xb intake manifold by weapon r until i learned that the Xb throttle body was cable driven and had a 3 bolt pattern where the yaris is drive by wire and has a 4 bolt pattern which meant i would have spent $700 on a manifold that i couldnt use.

i may not have the money to buy this supercharger but i have enough money to place a bet that this kit will not install without some kind of issue big or small.

if some one with the patience and money just try this kit so that this can be laid to rest and Power Enterprises Evan can start making some money. everyone will be happier in the end if we do.

now can we please stop bashing Power Enterprises Evan, its REALLY making this a boring thread

[PetersRedYaris]

This is sad...

The facts are this-
1. Just because it bolts into a JDM Yaris doesn't mean it will bolt directly into a USDM Yaris.
2. JDM and USDM actually do have minor differences in terms of body shape, wheather this encrouches into the engine bay or not is unknown (unless someone has compared the two side by side).
2. The 1NZFE code indicates the block and head only.
3. The engine management used on different cars powered by a 1NZFE varies greatly.
4. The number of belts (and what type) used to power the accessories varies between models using the 1NZFE as well.
5. A supercharger is powered by the accessory belt, so minor differences may turn into big mounting challenges.

That being said, I can't believe the seller refuses to do whatever it takes to clear up these issues. I have never seen a new kit available without a full installation and dyno to back it up. As a salesmen trying to sell a product online, I think the OP needs to step it up. However, I also think several members here need to back off so something has a chance to happen.

[ztrack157]

I honestly will pay the vendor fees for a year to have this guy banned. This guy makes me want to jump ship and not even be a member here anymore. We as members have to behave ourselves yet this guy gets a blank check to attack those who come here. This guy is a chump hes gets asked simple questions that he obviously cannot answer. Saying you'll stand by the kit doesn't mean anything to me because you haven't shown anything to stand by yet. Attacking members gets you no love here and doesn't help your sales. If someone asks you a question answer it. This will more than likely be my last post on this thread. I have more than enough $$$ sitting in the bank and your name was on it as soon as you actually showed me something. Until you do I'm done modding my yaris. Time to give my bike some love.

[Marfulion]

now can we please stop bashing Power Enterprises Evan, its REALLY making this a boring thread

by "boring" do u mean entertaining? dude i have been checking on to this thread everyday, its just there is so much drama, love and hate in here lol:thumbup:HAHAHA

All i have to say is that its true, just cus the engine code is the same does not mean that it will be the same exact engine in every model that carries it. I had 2005 Rav4 with the same 2azfe engine which is the same in the tc, but the engine cover and intake are completly different, i tried to get the trd supercharger for the tc in my rav but trd said it wouldnt work because the mounts bracket etc. is completly different.

I know that in japan this kit costs 5k, so 3800 or watever power evan said in the earlier thread is not bad at all. but what i dont get is why P.E. has a superchager kit for the honda fit for about he same price and it makes 170ps, wat is up with that? will there be a stage 2 kit in future for the yaris? and if so, if i buy the current supercharger kit and later u guys come out with another more power variant will it just be a simple upgrade from the previous one or would i have to buy it entirely as a replacement?

[mikenacarato]

I honestly will pay the vendor fees for a year to have this guy banned. This guy makes me want to jump ship and not even be a member here anymore. We as members have to behave ourselves yet this guy gets a blank check to attack those who come here. This guy is a chump hes gets asked simple questions that he obviously cannot answer. Saying you'll stand by the kit doesn't mean anything to me because you haven't shown anything to stand by yet. Attacking members gets you no love here and doesn't help your sales. If someone asks you a question answer it. This will more than likely be my last post on this thread. I have more than enough $$$ sitting in the bank and your name was on it as soon as you actually showed me something. Until you do I'm done modding my yaris. Time to give my bike some love.

ill pay double the fees to have you banned. if you have this money grow some peaches and buy it, then you obviously have enough money to fix whatever issues you encounter.

[LtNoogie]

It's too bad that this thread has gotten people, who would have been civil in other threads, to become antagonists here.

[PETERPOOP]

noogie, don't think you're off the hook. where are those S/C videos?!?!?! HUH! ;)

[LtNoogie]

If I can get an appointment to dyno my car this weekend, I'll take a video of it. So there.

[m911gt]

wow, i was truly interested in this kit...and after reading all the bullshit that has gone on for pages, idk what to think atm

[Marfulion]

wow, i was truly interested in this kit...and after reading all the bullshit that has gone on for pages, idk what to think atm

Dont think any differently of it, its a great kit and in my opinion superior to the blitz s/c. I saw a vid of sum dude running his yaris 0-60 with a blitz super chager on youtube and i was not impressed at all, it took him 9 secs which is only 1 sec faster than stock. I think this kit is baller as hell, but i too want to see a vid or something just to confirm what i think.

[m911gt]

oh yeah, my view on the KIT has not changed, very impressive in the Japanese market.

[cali yaris]

spectating on this one -- wish I were a PE reseller for you guys.

[PETERPOOP]

make it happen garm. make it happen. im sure you'll have better business with it! haha

[ztrack157]

ill pay double the fees to have you banned. if you have this money grow some peaches and buy it, then you obviously have enough money to fix whatever issues you encounter.

Why in the hell should I have to pay money to buy without any results? I don't do impluse buys. LOL and I don't need to grow peaches I already have a big ass tree. Also whatever issues I may encounter is exactly why I am not jumping at this. I don't want issues and for $4k there sure as hell shoudln't be any.

[ztrack157]

Garm I honestly wish you were too. Everything would have been done right the first time and all questions/issues would have been resolved.

[Power Enterprise Evan]

A suggestion, why not take care of the tax for someone who would be interested to go to your shop and buy and install the kit? Compromise for everyone. No free kit, but the person will have a discount for being a "guinea pig", and will be able to provide detailed photos of the install. Just a suggestion.

well are you stepping up to the plate or just making bogus offers?

[Power Enterprise Evan]

The 1st gen Box and xA have 1NZ-FE motors too, but their turbo/sc kits don't directly bolt onto our cars.

what part of "Yaris Supercharger kit" do you not understand?

NOT 1NZ-FE "Universal supercharger kit"....

[Power Enterprise Evan]

So you refuse to answer questions for anyone but someone who thinks $4K is nothing. I dont care if this post gets deleted, your a d*ick and I hope nobody buys your product. All we want is proof that it works on OUR car. Not a JDM one. You refuse to be truthful about why you wont even TEST one here. "oh well it works overseas"....sorry not good enough. I will have no sympathy for anyone who buys this and encounters problems. Im not an a**hole either so hopefully i didnt piss any other members off, if i did, i apologize....to you and you alone. Especially Chino, i know you try to keep the peace but i feel it needed to be said. PM me if you have any concerns.

Proof is you are buying from a company, not someone who pieced together a kit from ebay and is slanging mass produced "almost" chinese knock-offs...

We, Power Enterprise USA, has a reputation. Have you ever heard of a Nissan R35? Well, Power Enterprise Japan designed the turbo setup for that car....

Ever heard of Tokyo Auto Salon? We won best Modification of the YEAR, for the first ever QUAD-Charger setup.

Ever heard of a Nissan Silvia? more specifically the S15, we co produced a DUAL-charger setup for that car as well.....

still think we sit around slanging junk?

[Power Enterprise Evan]

Well, you did just say 1NZ-FE. Okay, a Yaris is a Yaris right? So how come JDM bumpers won't fit our USDM ones unless we get a JDM crash bar? "Same car" right?

Look,i dunno what the hell you are trying to prove, but if you read the top the sub catagory of this forum is "Forced Induction" as in turbo and super charger kits, maybe you should do a search if you want to change your bumpers....:thumbsup:

[Power Enterprise Evan]

Mike, I respect your points, truely, but my statements were to answer the simple questions and getting results for our novice members who might want to tackle something a bit bigger than say, putting an exhaust on from TRD. You and I are in a different class than some of our members when it comes to building and installing. :respekt::drinking:


I'm not looking to argue, I have my own plans on what I'm doing with mine. Like it or not, selling a product without full testing in all markets does not work for everyone. My approach with this thread would have been a feeler and would have taken the data back to my employer with the suggestions. Battles and name calling doesn't help the product move IMO. Good luck with the sale and I hope you do not take anymore offense to these suggestions:thumbsup:

point taken, what people dont understand on here is that Power Enterprise, backs their products, we specialize and choose certain items to create and sell, ONLY because we believe the product is worthy to put our name on it and sell it.

I realize many Americans like myself are skeptical of things on "word" or business done on a "handshake" but this company, based in Japan, follows the principles followed still by most if not a good majority of Japanese companies, that is reputation of word, company, and person is worth its wait in gold.

now this isnt, a moral competition, but at the same time people need to have a little faith that there are still companies that make and stand by what they sell and manufacture.

When you go to a gas station, you expect gas to pump into your car, its a given expectation, you dont expect water, milk or any other fluid other than the octane gas you choose.

the same goes with out products, when you see something you want, and read what is described, that is what you get nothing more, nothing less.:smoking:

[Power Enterprise Evan]

what people dont seem to understand here is THE CARS HAVE THE SAME ENGINE AND CHASSIS CODES!@!@@!!@ the part will fit or else they wouldnt be the same. and the body panels/ bumper supports have nothing to do with the chassis codes nor will it affect the install of this supercharger. for f**cks sake just look at some damn engine bay pics if your that hard headed.

:laughabove: ROFL

:coolpics:

[Power Enterprise Evan]

i've seen it with my own 2 eyes. the engine can have the same code but not be the same

i was looking at getting the 1st gen Xb intake manifold by weapon r until i learned that the Xb throttle body was cable driven and had a 3 bolt pattern where the yaris is drive by wire and has a 4 bolt pattern which meant i would have spent $700 on a manifold that i couldnt use.

i may not have the money to buy this supercharger but i have enough money to place a bet that this kit will not install without some kind of issue big or small.

if some one with the patience and money just try this kit so that this can be laid to rest and Power Enterprises Evan can start making some money. everyone will be happier in the end if we do.

now can we please stop bashing Power Enterprises Evan, its REALLY making this a boring thread


:drinking:

[Power Enterprise Evan]

This is sad...

The facts are this-
1. Just because it bolts into a JDM Yaris doesn't mean it will bolt directly into a USDM Yaris.
2. JDM and USDM actually do have minor differences in terms of body shape, wheather this encrouches into the engine bay or not is unknown (unless someone has compared the two side by side).
2. The 1NZFE code indicates the block and head only.
3. The engine management used on different cars powered by a 1NZFE varies greatly.
4. The number of belts (and what type) used to power the accessories varies between models using the 1NZFE as well.
5. A supercharger is powered by the accessory belt, so minor differences may turn into big mounting challenges.

That being said, I can't believe the seller refuses to do whatever it takes to clear up these issues. I have never seen a new kit available without a full installation and dyno to back it up. As a salesmen trying to sell a product online, I think the OP needs to step it up. However, I also think several members here need to back off so something has a chance to happen.

Thank you,


ONCE AGAIN MY OFFER STILL STANDS.....
i will take a weekend to help anyone who wants to buy the kit, even if you are the 30th purchaser of the kit....

Tell me all you "auto enthusiasts" how many of you work in the aftermarket industry?

how many of you are willing to take YOUR weekend off to help a complete stranger and your company?

Well, i'm getting paid so what do I care right?:laugh:
NOPE i am NOT getting a dime. and my offer of going to Vegas or Nor Cal, all i'm asking for is my transportation paid for, I WILL find my OWN room and board...

I'm getting commission so i'll do anything to make a sale?
NOPE, i make a hourly wage, i'm also a student, between the two splitting my hours it would take me about 6 months to buy this kit,



So for all of you bigg ballers out there that do nothing but pity and complain, step up to the plate.....

i can promise you that a good majority of you wouldnt be willing to help much less spend time off of work to respond to thread posts much less take time out of your day to make a sale for a company that isnt even paying you.

I do what i do because i enjoy the industry and am doing my best to keep the industry alive and fellow auto enthusiasts happy. THE END

[Power Enterprise Evan]

I honestly will pay the vendor fees for a year to have this guy banned. This guy makes me want to jump ship and not even be a member here anymore. We as members have to behave ourselves yet this guy gets a blank check to attack those who come here. This guy is a chump hes gets asked simple questions that he obviously cannot answer. Saying you'll stand by the kit doesn't mean anything to me because you haven't shown anything to stand by yet. Attacking members gets you no love here and doesn't help your sales. If someone asks you a question answer it. This will more than likely be my last post on this thread. I have more than enough $$$ sitting in the bank and your name was on it as soon as you actually showed me something. Until you do I'm done modding my yaris. Time to give my bike some love.

So ban me, this is a opportunity to sell SC in a new market, i choose this forum because i was told there are more go getters on this site versus other yaris and toyota based forums...

i have a lexus, so i am still in the toyota family,

the funny thing is, is that its usually people like you who talk smack now, then buy the kit from a dealer, then come back and complain to me you need advice...ROFL....:thumbsup:

[Kaotic Lazagna]

what part of "Yaris Supercharger kit" do you not understand?

NOT 1NZ-FE "Universal supercharger kit"....

Look,i dunno what the hell you are trying to prove, but if you read the top the sub catagory of this forum is "Forced Induction" as in turbo and super charger kits, maybe you should do a search if you want to change your bumpers....:thumbsup:

I wasn't really even talking to you about this. I was simply pointing out a flaw in another member's statement in regards that Yaris parks fit all Yarii when in reality they do not. I've been long enough and know where things are, and I'm not interested in changing my bumpers. Again, simply pointing out a flaw in another member's statements.

And I UNDERSTAND when you said Yaris supercharge kit, and again, I was pointing out when a member said that since we have a 1NZ-FE motor, that all parts will fit, and I simply pointed out that other cars' supercharger kits with the same motor will not be a direct bolt on.

[Kaotic Lazagna]

well are you stepping up to the plate or just making bogus offers?

I never said anything about me offering this, it was merely a suggestion to help you out, but since you're being like this, I'm not going to try to help you out.

One more thing, you may not care, but you certainly have lost me as a future customer.

[Power Enterprise Evan]

by "boring" do u mean entertaining? dude i have been checking on to this thread everyday, its just there is so much drama, love and hate in here lol:thumbup:HAHAHA

All i have to say is that its true, just cus the engine code is the same does not mean that it will be the same exact engine in every model that carries it. I had 2005 Rav4 with the same 2azfe engine which is the same in the tc, but the engine cover and intake are completly different, i tried to get the trd supercharger for the tc in my rav but trd said it wouldnt work because the mounts bracket etc. is completly different.

I know that in japan this kit costs 5k, so 3800 or watever power evan said in the earlier thread is not bad at all. but what i dont get is why P.E. has a superchager kit for the honda fit for about he same price and it makes 170ps, wat is up with that? will there be a stage 2 kit in future for the yaris? and if so, if i buy the current supercharger kit and later u guys come out with another more power variant will it just be a simple upgrade from the previous one or would i have to buy it entirely as a replacement?

there is no plan as of yet to increase output or add upgraded stages.

Rotrex and PE Japan, generally go with the assumption and "safe-side" of modification. assuming you have a stock engine

now i will say that it isnt hard to upgrade the pulley, but any evidence that the pulley has been tampered with will void your warranty.

so if you think you can pull off a mod with no detection be my guest, but its the engineers that do the inspection... not me:smoking:

[Power Enterprise Evan]

ill pay double the fees to have you banned. if you have this money grow some peaches and buy it, then you obviously have enough money to fix whatever issues you encounter.

pay me the fees and i'll voluntarily leave :clap::clap::thumbsup::laughabove:

[Power Enterprise Evan]

spectating on this one -- wish I were a PE reseller for you guys.

if you would like to open an account PM me, you can be the direct dealer here and/or any other sites you visit

[Power Enterprise Evan]

Why in the hell should I have to pay money to buy without any results? I don't do impluse buys. LOL and I don't need to grow peaches I already have a big ass tree. Also whatever issues I may encounter is exactly why I am not jumping at this. I don't want issues and for $4k there sure as hell shoudln't be any.

well for the 78236874th time, bring your car down here i'll install it for you for a nominal charge, and you can watch me do it for you, then you have nothing to complain about....or take it to a shop:laugh:

[Power Enterprise Evan]

I never said anything about me offering this, it was merely a suggestion to help you out, but since you're being like this, I'm not going to try to help you out.

One more thing, you may not care, but you certainly have lost me as a future customer.

Excellent, but that is not a suggestion, that is an indirect offer.

this kit retails for $4100, i can just cut out of here and you can find a dealer thats willing to drop the price.

i'm offering an introductry price of $3770 shipped to the upper 48 states.
PeterPOOP asked and asked for free shipping to Hawaii, so I agreed.
Since i agreed to him, to be fair i offered it to everyone else including alaska and any other US territory.

i offered my personal time for installation help, and willing to travel

Now you are asking for tax to be covered which is another $311

Sorry but at that rate, please dont bother

[Kaotic Lazagna]

Well, I missed that free shipping part, so that's why I suggested to cover tax.

Again, never said I was interested, therefore, cannot see how this was an indirect offer. But the hell with it, can't do it anyway. I am no longer gonna try to help out.

[ztrack157]

Define Nominal please.

[Power Enterprise Evan]

Define Nominal please.

whatever you feel my time is worth to you.

you want to pay me $5 bucks. ok

you want to pay me $200 bucks ok

whatever YOU think is FAIR

must say though, Karma's a bitch :thumbsup::evil:

[Kaotic Lazagna]

24 pack of beer and nuts. LOL. No clue, that's what people in my local forum charge for suspension install.

[Power Enterprise Evan]

24 pack of beer and nuts. LOL. No clue, that's what people in my local forum charge for suspension install.

well i dont really drink much, figure that a professional charges about $60-75 an hour even 50% of that works.....

i'd take cash, lexus parts, tires, gas cards, game console, im really not that hard to please..... just keep the offers clean please

i'm not trying to make a arm and leg off someone...just help get someone going...

[Return of the Yarii]

Honestly, it comes through loud and clear that Evan isnt a salesman, my advice to him would be to stay in school until he actually learns to deal with people that do not need his product. I've watched this thread for 12+ pages now and only a handful of actual member questions have been answered and Evan's terrible attitude is amazing.

I pity the person who actually steps up and shells out 3700 to this guy, cant all you see if this is how you're being treated BEFORE the sale can you only imagine how you will be treated if there is an issue AFTER the sale? Sheesh....

Certain mods may claim to leave poor Evan alone yet ban and criticize others for the same exact behavior that this vendor is exhibiting. If your going to hold members to a certain standard then EVERYONE should be held to that same standard.

[BLAZINBLUEVITZ]

yes, vinny is very knowledgeable

can i purchase this kit through him for advertised price and pay his install fee to tune it???

[thebarber]

and like so many yarisworld threads, this one is cut down by bickering and name calling...

[eTiMaGo]

I just went through this thread again, so if I can add my own 2 cents, I hope you'll all pay attention.

Personally I can understand Evan's position, it's not always easy to handle a public forum like this when you are hoping to sell something, and at first he's been more than accommodating:

reduced shipping prices for Hawaii & alaska
possibility of a GB with a minimum of 5 buyers
proposed an alternative for payment plans (Credit card or Paypal)
offered to give a hand with the install of the first unit
explained why those guys who bought the kits before Rotrex approval are not eligible for a warranty (as far as I remember this was quite clear at the time too)
Explained that the kit already had a successful history, albeit in Japan so far

On the other hand, I have to agree with several other members that there are too many "maybes" in this kit. As mentioned, we still have very little knowledge of the small differences between USDM and JDM models. Those first people who bought the Blitz kits took quite some time to figure it out, heck echo_hrs still does not have his running smoothly last we heard from him. I think it would be ideal if PE and Evan could look into this and see how they can improve on that experience too. After all, most of us here are not master mechanics, yet are willing to learn and do the wrenching themselves.

So... is it a lot of money for 50HP? $75 per hp is pretty reasonable. 50HP might not sound like a lot but that's half of the stock power rating... Heck those guys with the Blitz kits are "only" doing about 130whp but it's already a sensible difference. But, this topic has already been beaten to death.

So, Evan, my advice:
If you want to sell things to end users, listen to their needs... Sure, some might ask for too much, but most people here just want to make an informed decision, nobody likes to fly blind into a multi-thousand dollar purchase. And, the best way to do this is to find someone to work with, document each step of the process, make everything as crystal clear and transparent as it must be. Saying "the kit includes everything you need" is just not good enough, as you won't know that with 100% certainty until you install the kit on a car that is truly representative of your target market.

Case in point, myself, couple years back I did some GBs for some accessories available locally, and as it turned out, even on identical cars, there were a few that just would not fit due to tiny differences, like the side mirror covers, which have a different alignment of clips. Felt like a damn fool about it, and still do.

Also, I've been asked to look into the ECU of our cars here, and the part numbers are totally different, even between cars of the same model year with the same manual transmissions. It's small differences like this that can kill the ease of installation, so we all just want to avoid this potential problem.

If you're unable to comprehend this, then don't be surprised that people react unfavorably. And, lashing back at people in this kind of situation is highly unprofessional.

So, if there is someone really serious about this, who wants to be the pioneer (sounds better than guinea pig) for this specific kit as officially sold by PE USA, please contact Evan, take him up on his offer to do the install, and let us know how it goes. Until then, I am going to close this thread, please start a new one once you have answers to the reasonable questions.

You have an amazing opportunity here to be really in touch with this community's wants and needs. Heck if you need any inspiration go look at how Jackson Racing handles the sale of similar kits on fitfreak.net, they are there each step of the way. If you can reach this level of service, you're golden.