View Full Version : 50 bucks cold air intake
jaserhunter
01-20-2009, 08:42 PM
what do you think about this http://www.360tuners.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=2958. its 50 bucks so it has to suck right? :iono:
1NZYaris1
01-20-2009, 08:47 PM
It's a long tube so you would be taking air from inside guard , $50.
is a good price for a non brand considering it's material cost is about $25.
the filter is probably a bit lite , but who knows until you buy one and try it.
thebarber
01-20-2009, 09:35 PM
id hit it....and buy a k&n filter for it...
mikenacarato
01-20-2009, 09:38 PM
.....crap
thebarber
01-20-2009, 10:08 PM
.....crap
explain
jaserhunter
01-20-2009, 10:16 PM
i was just looking a weapon-r filters $52 for the filter, $130 for the dargon CAI, and $207 for the secert weapon CAI. that secert weapon is bad ass :drool:
06silveryaris
01-20-2009, 10:47 PM
what do you think about this http://www.360tuners.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=2958. its 50 bucks so it has to suck right? :iono:
It will suck, air that is, just like a super expensive one will, just get a good airfilter(k&n) Its just a pipe with some bends. Go for it
btw good find:smile:
coheed
01-20-2009, 11:56 PM
Buy it. Just make sure everythings on tight and no extra air is getting into the system. Again good find. :thumbup:
PetersRedYaris
01-21-2009, 12:14 AM
Just buy an Injen/ AEM/ or Fujita intake. The only piece in these kits worth using, provided it's even built correct, is the aluminum pipe itself. The filter, mounting hardware/screws, rubber coupler, and rubber hose are all crap and will quickly fall apart. Once you buy a K&N filter ($40-$50), silicone coupler and clamps($15-$20), stainless mounting screws ($3-$4), and new hose from the valve cover to the intake ($3-$4), you may as well have bought an Injen intake off ebay for $129. You will save time, headaches, and end up with a much higher quality pipe. Trust me, I just went through this on my Xb...
ddongbap
01-21-2009, 01:15 AM
Hit it, and quit it.
crankyelbow
01-21-2009, 03:43 AM
Looks great to me, things these simple don't have to be so expensive... competition brings the price on down and this is a prime example. The filter is fine I'm sure, throw on an AEM dryflow and its even better.
How a metal pipe could fall apart I duno... there really aren't any complex or high precision parts worth paying a premium for... a CEL might be an issue but by now I'd bet this is just a copy of a proven design.
PHXDEMON
01-21-2009, 07:04 AM
There's something called engineering. any monkey can fit pipe together that routes to the proper spot. The reason why you pay 200-300 dollars for a decent intake is not for the supplies but for the engineering behind it.
PHXDEMON
01-21-2009, 07:04 AM
That being said buy an AFE intake. best bang for your buck IMHO.
ddongbap
01-21-2009, 07:42 AM
What bang for the buck? Its nearly $200 bucks, and you'll get a few HP at best?
There's something called engineering. any monkey can fit pipe together that routes to the proper spot. The reason why you pay 200-300 dollars for a decent intake is not for the supplies but for the engineering behind it.Well, that'll go same way for a monkey putting an intake on a well engineered car. Like the Yaris, for example.
Thej3sta2
01-21-2009, 10:05 AM
yeah id say you buy it and test it if you dont get any CEL then ill freaking buy one.
ChinoCharles
01-21-2009, 11:26 AM
If you're looking to save money on an intake, buy the first used name brand intake you see on Ebay. Leave this one alone, unless you want some oxidized crap-looking pipe under your hood in 18 months.
thebarber
01-21-2009, 12:32 PM
unless you want some oxidized crap-looking pipe under your hood in 18 months.
spray paint ftw.
Thej3sta2
01-21-2009, 01:12 PM
gotta love piss cans
jaserhunter
01-21-2009, 01:48 PM
no i think i will stay away from cheap shit, but if someone wants to buy and tell me how it work then more power to them. i would rather pay $100 more and buy something i will know i will like then throw away $50 :wink:
Split
01-21-2009, 02:35 PM
this pipe is no different than an injen, aem, fujita etc. the only difference is MAYBE the filter. I'd say buy it, spray paint it the body color of your car, and install it. Spray the filter with the same oil that K&N filters use, and then when it comes time to clean it, just replace it with a brand name filter instead of cleaning it etc.
the only really bad thing i've heard about ebay filters is in high horsepower or high boost applications they can come aprart and shit can get sucked into your motor.
Personally, I always buy a brand name product for my newer vehicles. Especially something as cheap as an air intake.
Save $50 now, spend a lot more if it screws up your car and voids your warranty.
Plus the brand name ones always look better, usually last longer, have numbers to back up their performance, usually fit better, and have customer service just in case you need something.
mikenacarato
01-21-2009, 03:42 PM
this pipe is no different than an injen, aem, fujita etc. the only difference is MAYBE the filter.
:laughabove:..................:bs:
ddongbap
01-21-2009, 03:50 PM
How can air + metal cause catastrophic engine failure?!
thebarber
01-21-2009, 04:26 PM
i had a 9$ short ram from ebay w/ a k&n filter on my matrix xrs....worked just as well as any other intake
i run with a cosmo racing intake on my yaris....again, no problem even w/ their cheap filter....
Never said air or metal could cause catastrophic engine failure. Actually I never said anything about catastrophic engine failure. But engineering could. Water getting into your engine, etc.
Or just plain ol' worse gas mileage/performance due to a restrictive design or filter.
But hey, buy what you want, it's your car. I'd just rather spend the extra $ and buy the right part. Hell, you could make a cardboard shipping tube with a cone filter on the end for about $5 bucks.
ddongbap
01-21-2009, 05:53 PM
Never said air or metal could cause catastrophic engine failure. Actually I never said anything about catastrophic engine failure. But engineering could. Water getting into your engine, etc.
Or just plain ol' worse gas mileage/performance due to a restrictive design or filter.
But hey, buy what you want, it's your car. I'd just rather spend the extra $ and buy the right part. Hell, you could make a cardboard shipping tube with a cone filter on the end for about $5 bucks.
I never wanted to buy this intake. But elaborate this for me. How different is this pipe, from other brand name ones? How different are the risks form this intake, and another?
jaserhunter
01-21-2009, 06:07 PM
no one said there going to buy it. i put it out there to ask how good can it be for $50
PetersRedYaris
01-21-2009, 06:50 PM
...this pipe is no different than an injen, aem, fujita etc. the only difference is MAYBE the filter...
Actually it is VERY different as the materials are low quality and so is the workmanship. The filter for SURE is crap...
thebarber
01-21-2009, 06:53 PM
well, the pipe diameter could be different or too big for the yaris MAF sensor....i tried my ebay short ram on my yaris....pipe diameter was 2.5".....got system lean CEL's
im sure that company just bought an AEM and copied it....im sure its perfectly fine
whoever said it before "all youre buying is the tube" is perfectly correct. sure itll oxidize before other....but my injen intake did a similar thing on my xrs before i got the ebay sri.....
seriously.....if i didnt already have an intake, id get a cheapy one like that and buy a new k&n filter for it. and when the cheapy connectors wore out (as they often do, eventually) id buy a good 4 ply vibrant one (btw, i happen to have a vibrant reducer flange on my intake....4ply kicks arse)
but im cheap like that...
edit: forgot to mention when i bought my ebay sri i had to file out some of the sloppy cutting around the MAF hole where the mount was welded....but it took me 15min to file it down.
DIY > $
mikenacarato
01-21-2009, 07:23 PM
Actually it is VERY different as the materials are low quality and so is the workmanship. The filter for SURE is crap...
finally someone else here understands my feelings. A+ to you sir...A+!
kustom play
01-21-2009, 07:57 PM
ive had the cheap ebay intake on for a year now
works perfect and still looks like the day i got it
just use a good filter and you will be fine
there is a lot of people on here who say expensive is better but its like buying off brand a the supermarket, half the time its the same exact thing with a different label
PetersRedYaris
01-21-2009, 09:48 PM
ive had the cheap ebay intake on for a year now
works perfect and still looks like the day i got it
just use a good filter and you will be fine
there is a lot of people on here who say expensive is better but its like buying off brand a the supermarket, half the time its the same exact thing with a different label
Your correct, sort of... Half the time it looks the exact same and works just fine. The other half the time it has blatently crappy welds, is the wrong diameter tube, or just plain won't bolt in cleanly. However, all the time the materials are of poor quality.
And for those of you using these crap Chinese filters, do your car a favor and replace it immediatley. If you think they are doing their job your insane...:iono:
NonStopTuning
01-21-2009, 10:43 PM
Your correct, sort of... Half the time it looks the exact same and works just fine. The other half the time it has blatently crappy welds, is the wrong diameter tube, or just plain won't bolt in cleanly. However, all the time the materials are of poor quality.
And for those of you using these crap Chinese filters, do your car a favor and replace it immediatley. If you think they are doing their job your insane...:iono:
:clap:
06silveryaris
01-21-2009, 10:59 PM
be even cheaper like me, hack some holes in your airbox, probably just as loud. HP gain who knows I mean it makes what 100 hp factory. Even if you get a reputable intake or pay double for one to make the car even faster, won't make much of a difference on a engine that was not designed for hp. I understand the it is great to get a gain in hp but I think there is little diference from one intake to the other.Now if instead of a air intake we were talking about forged rods, pistons, valves, ecu, etc, yeah get the better product with a good and proven reputation.
just my opinion, maybe I am crazy, don't know:smile:
1NZYaris1
01-21-2009, 11:35 PM
:laughabove:Take this how you want , you people bagging this system are pathetic ,
if it was NST, Micro image , and so on, you would be all over it like a heat rash. And pay 4x that price.
Until you have used said product , how can you say what it is like .:thumbdown:
advise is good , guidance is better , but bull shit bagging of a product because
you paid 4x that for your one is hard luck.:barf:
mikenacarato
01-21-2009, 11:41 PM
nst and micro image wouldnt produce such crappy products as the subject intake...
1NZYaris1
01-21-2009, 11:51 PM
How do you know it is crappy, have you bought one ,or do you have a cristal ball.
jaserhunter
01-21-2009, 11:53 PM
i'm am sorry i even posted this. i was tryin to save some people some money (for the ones that dont have $200 for a CAI). i got a k&n drop-in to hold me over till i get money for the aFe or weapon-r one. on a side note it seems like no matter the topic people want drama.:iono: lets be friends :biggrin: i love you guys :wub: peace lol
PetersRedYaris
01-22-2009, 12:02 AM
How do you know it is crappy, have you bought one ,or do you have a cristal ball.
How do I know? Look back to post #9 on page 1. I just pieced one together utilizing only the pipe (as it was the only descent piece) from a cheap ($50) kit. After replacing all the crap hardware I may as well have bought the Injen SRI kit.
mikenacarato
01-22-2009, 12:03 AM
How do you know it is crappy, have you bought one ,or do you have a cristal ball.
YES...i have tried this kind of trash in the past....get some car smarts then you will understand
1NZYaris1
01-22-2009, 12:06 AM
My personal opion is good on you for posting it :thumbsup:.
as someone out there might look at it and think for $50. what have you
got to loose.
I myself splashed out the little extra and bought the AFE intake ,because
it , appears more stock than a shiney alloy tube , but some people like shiney:drool:
I just think it is sad when people on here constantly bag a product because
it the price is to cheap or too exspensive , and they have not even seen or tried it them selves :iono:
PetersRedYaris
01-22-2009, 12:13 AM
:laughabove:Take this how you want , you people bagging this system are pathetic ,
if it was NST, Micro image , and so on, you would be all over it like a heat rash. And pay 4x that price.
Until you have used said product , how can you say what it is like .:thumbdown:
advise is good , guidance is better , but bull shit bagging of a product because
you paid 4x that for your one is hard luck.:barf:
I've never been all over NST or Micro Image parts. I have never given Micro Image any business and have been skeptical (argueing engine longevity) of lightened pulleys in many old threads. The intake I own (which is powder coated black)was $50 and is crap... Any more theories you want to put out there?
And I support low prices. Sadly, high quality materials cost money...
1NZYaris1
01-22-2009, 12:17 AM
YES...i have tried this kind of trash in the past....get some car smarts then you will understand
So what you are really saying is that 360 Tuners.com
sell cheap shitty product that they don't back up , Yeah :thumbsup:
If that is the case i would not touch anything sold out of America.
Check there product range , same products as micro image .
how do you know this intake is not a reliable brand (they 360 tuners put there name to it) could it be a end of line product or maybe they have to much stock and need these sold to free up
cash flow.
and as far as my car smarts go just another assumption from you .:clap::clap:
mikenacarato
01-22-2009, 12:19 AM
ive tried and know people who have tried these kinds of things before. they may last 6 months to a year, but then your off buying another one because the pipe rusts or corrodes and/or the filter rusts/corrodes/falls apart. plus when im at a car event and someone asks me what kind of intake i have..i dont wanna say...oh its an ebay brand intake. i would be embarassed to say that, but thats just me and i demand quality. and for the record..buying thwe above intake is NOT the same as buying a new or used quality name brand off ebay. yes it may have come from ebay, but its not a no-name crap intake.
mikenacarato
01-22-2009, 12:24 AM
360tuners is just an ebay company with a website. you dont have to take my word for it and by all means please dont. i just want my parts to last a while.
PetersRedYaris
01-22-2009, 12:33 AM
I admit, of all the cheap ones, it looks like one of the best cheap ones...
Spades
01-22-2009, 02:51 AM
*AHEM* uhhh...you guys are missing the point. half the time the aftermarket manufacturers have NO actual numbers or engineering to back up their intakes or exhaust. they are thrown together and stamped with a ricerboy logo everyone wants to buy.
with that being said...if one were to take the same diameter tube that the stock MAF sensor sits in on your stock yaris, and was to make said tube out of polished aluminum, and were to mount said MAF sensor in roughly the same location as the factory set up, and was to stick a cone air filter on the end of it a little bit away from the engine...you would have a intake that would look good and outperform most of the aftermarket intakes because some of them mount the MAF sensor in the wrong spot or in the wrong size of tubing.
seriously. you are paying $250+ in some cases for one dude to eyeball a piece of pipe and the factory set up...and then put 25 bucks worth of parts in a box and slap a sticker on it.
BTW....for sh-ts and giggles....go work on cars all day and marvel at some of the back asswards "engineering" on half of the cars on the road...i have seen vehicles where the flat rate time paid to a mechanic was over an hour to change the damn air filter...who put the air filter in that spot? why, one of your exalted engineers. sorry, but f--k them...I built my own.
ChinoCharles
01-22-2009, 03:06 AM
i'm am sorry i even posted this. i was tryin to save some people some money (for the ones that dont have $200 for a CAI). i got a k&n drop-in to hold me over till i get money for the aFe or weapon-r one.
Precisely what I would have done. Good call.
About these intakes... listen. Since this site came around people have posted 100 versions of some intake that looks exactly like this. All are on Ebay, all probably come from China, designs are inconsistent and in the end nobody will really know how the intake performs. Someone might own the same thing, but instead of 360tuners or whatever this company is, they bought it from another power seller rebranded under some other name. The chances of anyone on this site even having experience with some of these intakes is slim. Its kind of funny really.
This is why I always suggest going name brand. I'm kind of hurt that someone knocked NST and Micro Image in this debate. NST doesn't even make intakes and both NST and Micro Image pays hundreds of dollars a year to provide us a service, so unless you're going to fork over a monthly payment don't go knocking our vendors unless you have a mighty fine reason. They keep us afloat.
I will always suggest a mainstream intake because they're tried and tested. We know what doesn't work... a few of them admittedly have some fitment issues reported and things like that. In a world where you get what you pay for, the only way you're getting a good intake for $50 is if you go used. I did... I have a Simota sitting in my room that cost me about that. Be patient and go that route. Keep your eyes on the For Sale forum. Forget these Ebay things.
1NZYaris1
01-22-2009, 04:46 AM
Precisely what I would have done. Good call.
About these intakes... listen. Since this site came around people have posted 100 versions of some intake that looks exactly like this. All are on Ebay, all probably come from China, designs are inconsistent and in the end nobody will really know how the intake performs. Someone might own the same thing, but instead of 360tuners or whatever this company is, they bought it from another power seller rebranded under some other name. The chances of anyone on this site even having experience with some of these intakes is slim. Its kind of funny really.
This is why I always suggest going name brand. I'm kind of hurt that someone knocked NST and Micro Image in this debate. NST doesn't even make intakes and both NST and Micro Image pays hundreds of dollars a year to provide us a service, so unless you're going to fork over a monthly payment don't go knocking our vendors unless you have a mighty fine reason. They keep us afloat.
I will always suggest a mainstream intake because they're tried and tested. We know what doesn't work... a few of them admittedly have some fitment issues reported and things like that. In a world where you get what you pay for, the only way you're getting a good intake for $50 is if you go used. I did... I have a Simota sitting in my room that cost me about that. Be patient and go that route. Keep your eyes on the For Sale forum. Forget these Ebay things.
I would say +1 on all the above ,
But you have also missed a piont people here saying the said intake is cheap,
that it might be but if anyone had bothered to check and read the add on 360tuners
web page the intake is reduce to $50. from $99. from which is about the norm
for this style of intake.(its not just the product you bag its the company selling it)
They also sell the same brand name products as Micro image and that is the one of the reasons i mentioned them and NST , 2ndly they where metioned
because they both have amazing customer service and fairly cheap parts .
Weather the are original or copy.
Reading through the last page i still cannot see how NST , or micro image
have in your words been knocked, and if they have been by me,
i here by appoligise to Garm and Mike ,no offence was meant (by me any way)
My whole piont was to stop the bagging of a product that they have not used or tried from 360tuners, as quality or lack of can only be determined once bought and used.
thebarber
01-22-2009, 07:54 AM
ebay intake w/ k&n cone filter worked fine for 50,000km for me....
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b339/dabarber/enginebaywithshortram.jpg
My whole piont was to stop the bagging of a product that they have not used or tried from 360tuners, as quality or lack of can only be determined once bought and used.
Or they could actually care and test their products, post reviews, dyno sheets, etc. like all reputable manufacturers.
And I think it's kind of silly that I'm getting slammed in this topic everytime I post. Every post I have stated that "I personally buy" or "I would buy" a brand name product. Sorry that it offends you so much.
thebarber
01-22-2009, 10:03 AM
ive got to admit that aem, fujita and injen put more time and money into engineering and whatnot
but in a lot of ways the ebay knock-offs are jsut as good....who's intakes do you think they copy? why do you think it takes an extra year or two to get the knock-offs on the market?
i did the R&D for cosmo racing intake. i measured the stock air pipe diameter, told them what it was and they ripped off a short ram pipe of the same diameter with a toyota MAF mount on it and an inlet for the crank vent pipe....
might not be the most beautiful piece of intake out there, but hey, it works
Spades
01-22-2009, 06:17 PM
Or they could actually care and test their products, post reviews, dyno sheets, etc. like all reputable manufacturers.
And I think it's kind of silly that I'm getting slammed in this topic everytime I post. Every post I have stated that "I personally buy" or "I would buy" a brand name product. Sorry that it offends you so much.
LOL...most of the companies people consider reputable do not post reviews or dyno sheets...and if they do, alot of the time numbers are made up. look, if someone purchases a intake, installs it perfectly with no problems, check engine lights, or hp loss, and puts it on a dyno, and actually GAINED the 5+ wheel HP alot of the companies claim...congrats to you. you just paid 250 bucks to get what i have on my car...and i paid 25 bucks in materials.
but hey, it does take people that BELIVE in the manufacturers and their engineers...cause if they didnt, the products wouldnt exist...kinda like santa claus and Christmas, right? mass commerce based of of fairy dust and pixie farts...gotta love it. :clap:
mikenacarato
01-23-2009, 03:17 AM
no....lol at the people on here who dont want to pay for quality parts but OMG so friggin concerned with what the UOA charts say....hypocrits
thebarber
01-23-2009, 07:45 AM
uoa chart?
Giobatera
01-31-2009, 06:31 AM
Hey, take a look on this link. I found this one on ebay and the guy is sending a K&N filter with it. I think this might be a good deal.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/07-TOYOTA-YARIS-1-5L-COLD-AIR-INTAKE-SYSTEM-FREE-K-N_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trkparmsZ72Q3a1171Q7c66Q3a2Q7 c65Q3a12Q7c39Q3a1Q7c240Q3a1318Q7c301Q3a1Q7c293Q3a1 Q7c294Q3a50QQ_trksidZp3286Q2ec0Q2em14QQhashZitem36 0127692093QQitemZ360127692093QQptZMotorsQ5fCarQ5fT ruckQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories
06silveryaris
03-20-2009, 12:05 AM
i could not resist and bought the $50 intake but not from 360 tuners since it was not in stock and they gave me the run around so I canceled the order. But i did buy on ebay for $50. I think its great fit is good hardware seems ok and sturdy. It also brought some bolts with small rubber bushings for support. The filter is a no name but I kept it. The diameter of the pipe is the same as the facorty intake I have yet to have any cels or any issues. The filter position is somewhat high which seems to be safe from water, I will post pics soon, for now:burnrubber:
I painted it flat black, don't care to much for chrome
cmooney9
04-04-2009, 10:22 PM
I did the same thing got a cheap one off of Ebay, you need to get a name brand filter though it does make a difference.
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