Getting RAW Files/Pics To Open [Archive] - Toyota Yaris Forums

Kaotic Lazagna

01-23-2009, 02:47 AM

Shroomster

01-23-2009, 02:59 AM

Window's raw image viewer/thumbnailer (http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?familyid=D48E808E-B10D-4CE4-A141-5866FD4A3286&displaylang=en)

insert into this program maybe?

TEHxFALLEN V1.2

01-23-2009, 03:02 AM

My uncle found this:

You'll need to convert your .NEFs with the latest version of Adobe DNG Converter if you'd like to develop them in Photoshop CS. This free program supplied by Adobe converts your RAW files into the Adobe's .DNG format which can be read across multiple versions of Photoshop.
http://www.adobe.com/products/dng/

If you don't mind trying other RAW converters, I'd recommend RAW Therapee: a powerful RAW workflow application; or Picasa 3 beta: a powerful photo organizer with basic RAW tools. Both are free:
http://www.rawtherapee.com/
http://www.picasa.com/

Kaotic Lazagna

01-23-2009, 03:02 AM

Will I be able to edit with that program? (to Shroomster)

Kaotic Lazagna

01-23-2009, 03:03 AM

TEHxFALLEN V1.2

01-23-2009, 03:06 AM

Yeah! Then maybe I'll learn how to take photos like that with my uncle's DSLR :thumbsup:

& maybe come up with an event such as a YarisWorld shoot out!

Shroomster

01-23-2009, 03:10 AM

Will I be able to edit with that program? (to Shroomster)

....:rolleyes: it's a windows viewer...most likely will link you to ms paint for editing.....

might let you do a "save as" and change the format to a viewable .jpg

Kaotic Lazagna

01-23-2009, 03:17 AM

....:rolleyes: it's a windows viewer...most likely will link you to ms paint for editing.....

might let you do a "save as" and change the format to a viewable .jpg

hahaha, that's what I was afraid of. Thanks tho.

Kaotic Lazagna

01-23-2009, 03:17 AM

Yeah! Then maybe I'll learn how to take photos like that with my uncle's DSLR :thumbsup:

& maybe come up with an event such as a YarisWorld shoot out!

Photo class and lots of playing around with the camera :thumbsup:

Shroomster

01-23-2009, 03:20 AM

lmao ok....you're going to love this....

google the free software...or check download.com for

THE GIMP

Kaotic Lazagna

01-23-2009, 03:33 AM

My friend told me that too. I'll try that tomorrow. Gotta get some sleep. Thanks!

Bob_VT

01-23-2009, 05:13 AM

You can view in Picasa using raw format.

Photomatix opens mine from my Canon.

Black Yaris

01-23-2009, 07:55 AM

my photoshop CS2 opens RAW files from my D40

jamal1984

01-23-2009, 11:21 AM

Okay, so I took a bunch of RAW format pics today on my D40. I tried opening them, but they do not open. I downloaded plugins and converters, and yet, nothing opens them. My Photoshop CS4 won't open them either. Anyone have any clue on how to open these files? I even downloaded the converter from Nikon. All that's left is to find that one software that came with the camera...TIA.

why don't you try adobe lightroom 2
The easy way to open most of raw files, fast, i mean very fast. Easy to export. I haven't see any program that is fast and easy to open and convert raw files like lightroom.

SailDesign

01-23-2009, 11:35 AM

My D40 takes .NEF files that I can open in Corel PaintShop Pro, ACDSee, PhotoShop CS3 and CS4, etc.
I find ACDSee most useful for general edits, etc., and it is cheap compared to the rest.
www.acdsee.com
I finished up with their Pro version, but the PhotoManager at $50 is a good one as well, with some editing capabilities.
But - if you can't open RAW with CS4, you're doing it wrong. :smile:

NJBob

01-23-2009, 07:44 PM

Have you tried converting them to jpeg? My Canon uses RAW for taking the pic because it gets all the data of BMP or TIFF without taking so much space on your media card. When you upload it onto your hardrive..save it in a typical format such as BMP. TIFF or jpeg. jpeg is for online because it's compressed and a much smaller file. Tiff and BMP for example are better for prints/enlargements and BMP background on your 'puter screen. A 87 kb jpeg could equall an 8 or 9 mb tiff or bmp. Sorry if that's to much info.

Kaotic Lazagna

01-24-2009, 12:00 AM

KL, you need to go to the photoshop website and look for Nikon specific RAW plugin. Each camera will have its own RAW format. Also give ACDSEE 10 a shot , its a great photo managing and editing (basic) software and you it will enable you to look at the RAW files through windows viewer.

I did that, but I think there's something wrong with my CS4.

Kaotic Lazagna

01-24-2009, 12:04 AM

my photoshop CS2 opens RAW files from my D40

I think I'll go back to CS2.

why don't you try adobe lightroom 2
The easy way to open most of raw files, fast, i mean very fast. Easy to export. I haven't see any program that is fast and easy to open and convert raw files like lightroom.

I'll get LR and try it. :thumbsup:

My D40 takes .NEF files that I can open in Corel PaintShop Pro, ACDSee, PhotoShop CS3 and CS4, etc.
I find ACDSee most useful for general edits, etc., and it is cheap compared to the rest.
www.acdsee.com
I finished up with their Pro version, but the PhotoManager at $50 is a good one as well, with some editing capabilities.
But - if you can't open RAW with CS4, you're doing it wrong. :smile:

There's something wrong with my CS4. I think I'll go back to CS2.

Have you tried converting them to jpeg? My Canon uses RAW for taking the pic because it gets all the data of BMP or TIFF without taking so much space on your media card. When you upload it onto your hardrive..save it in a typical format such as BMP. TIFF or jpeg. jpeg is for online because it's compressed and a much smaller file. Tiff and BMP for example are better for prints/enlargements and BMP background on your 'puter screen. A 87 kb jpeg could equall an 8 or 9 mb tiff or bmp. Sorry if that's to much info.

Does converting them to jpeg negate the advantages of shooting in RAW? :iono:

LtNoogie

01-24-2009, 12:06 AM

Can you post one sample RAW file so that we can try with our photo editors? I use PaintShop Pro for all my editing. Much cheaper than Photoshop and easier to use.

Kaotic Lazagna

01-24-2009, 12:12 AM

Can you post one sample RAW file so that we can try with our photo editors? I use PaintShop Pro for all my editing. Much cheaper than Photoshop and easier to use.

How would I go about doing that? They're .nef files, and aren't part of the attachment list???

Kaotic Lazagna

01-24-2009, 12:13 AM

hmm, then i have no clue, sorry have you tried googling it to see if someone else had a similar problem?

maybe just to a general update on your CS4. sometimes they'll release some patches .

That's the thing tho, the update and many other things on my CS4 does not work??????

LtNoogie

01-24-2009, 12:19 AM

How would I go about doing that? They're .nef files, and aren't part of the attachment list???

Maybe just email around. Here's an excerpt of a review of Paint Shop Pro from October of 2007

One of the major additions to the Corel Paint Shop Pro Photo program in recent years is the ability to edit RAW image files. Unlike compressed image formats like JPEG, RAW images record more color, greater dynamic range (more shadow detail and more highlight detail), and allows you to easily change the white balance during post-processing in case you used the wrong white balance when you took the photo. X2 supports a wide range of RAW image formats including “unofficial” support of the Adobe DNG open standard RAW format.

Unfortunately, the RAW image editor built into X2 is not as functional as it could be. Corel currently only supports RAW image formats from a handful of cameras, and we also discovered during testing that not all DNG images could be opened by this application. For example, X2 couldn’t open a DNG format RAW file from a Pentax K10D, but it could open the PEF format RAW file from the same camera. Beyond this, X2 also lacked the functionality to change the white balance settings before opening the image. So, if you “need” to edit a variety of RAW images then X2 may not be the best program for you to use at this time.

Hopefully, they've corrected the problems noted in the review.

Kaotic Lazagna

01-24-2009, 02:03 AM

Maybe just email around. Here's an excerpt of a review of Paint Shop Pro from October of 2007

One of the major additions to the Corel Paint Shop Pro Photo program in recent years is the ability to edit RAW image files. Unlike compressed image formats like JPEG, RAW images record more color, greater dynamic range (more shadow detail and more highlight detail), and allows you to easily change the white balance during post-processing in case you used the wrong white balance when you took the photo. X2 supports a wide range of RAW image formats including “unofficial” support of the Adobe DNG open standard RAW format.

Unfortunately, the RAW image editor built into X2 is not as functional as it could be. Corel currently only supports RAW image formats from a handful of cameras, and we also discovered during testing that not all DNG images could be opened by this application. For example, X2 couldn’t open a DNG format RAW file from a Pentax K10D, but it could open the PEF format RAW file from the same camera. Beyond this, X2 also lacked the functionality to change the white balance settings before opening the image. So, if you “need” to edit a variety of RAW images then X2 may not be the best program for you to use at this time.

Hopefully, they've corrected the problems noted in the review.

hmmm, maybe I'll get that. Thanks. I emailed you a couple pics.

Kaotic Lazagna

01-24-2009, 02:03 AM

reinstall ir or at least repair it

I'll try reinstalling it, if that doesn't work, then I'll switch back to CS2.

LtNoogie

01-24-2009, 02:15 AM

hmmm, maybe I'll get that. Thanks. I emailed you a couple pics.

I just found out my Paint Shop Pro X is from 2005. I'm downloading a 30-day trial for Paint Shop Pro Photo X2 Ultimate. They claim it supports over 250 camera raw formats. Also does HDR photo merge.

I think they are having a special for $69.99.

Kaotic Lazagna

01-24-2009, 02:25 AM

:eek: $70!

LtNoogie

01-24-2009, 02:27 AM

I guess from my frame of reference, that's reasonable. Nine years ago, I paid over $500 for the full version of Photoshop. It was for work so I got reimbursed.

Kaotic Lazagna

01-24-2009, 02:33 AM

I guess from my frame of reference, that's reasonable. Nine years ago, I paid over $500 for the full version of Photoshop. It was for work so I got reimbursed.

Ah, software is so expensive these days (and back).

LtNoogie

01-24-2009, 02:43 AM

Ok. Paint Shop Pro Photo X2 Ultimate can open your NEF files. What do you want me to do with them? I can give Garm's car a new color or something.

Kaotic Lazagna

01-24-2009, 02:45 AM

Ok. Paint Shop Pro Photo X2 Ultimate can open your NEF files. What do you want me to do with them? I can give Garm's car a new color or something.

LOL. No clue. You can play around with it. That's what I wanted to do, without having to change them to JPEG, that is.

NJBob

01-24-2009, 11:07 AM

Does converting them to jpeg negate the advantages of shooting in RAW?
Absolutely. Jpeg is really best used online since it's so much smaller a file to send on the web. For prints Tiff or Bmp are a couple of the better formats.
There is a free editing program called GIMP. They have a plug-in to convert RAW. I haven't researched it yet but it's worth a look. It has great reviews and it's free. Check it at --> http://www.gimp.org/

Kaotic Lazagna

01-24-2009, 05:14 PM

Absolutely. Jpeg is really best used online since it's so much smaller a file to send on the web. For prints Tiff or Bmp are a couple of the better formats.
There is a free editing program called GIMP. They have a plug-in to convert RAW. I haven't researched it yet but it's worth a look. It has great reviews and it's free. Check it at --> http://www.gimp.org/

Thanks. I'll get on this after I get some rest. I'm exhausted.

Kaotic Lazagna

01-24-2009, 05:14 PM

the Raw files need to be converted to be viewed by anybody else. I use my RAW files as "negative originals" in reference to film negatives, this way i can keep changing the picture without loosing quality on the original. You need to remember that each time you save a jpg it will loose quality since the compression will add up at the end.

I really need to learn more about RAW...:frown:

Kaotic Lazagna

01-25-2009, 04:24 PM

if i can help let me know.

Anything and everything you know about RAW vs jpeg. :biggrin: Thanks. :thumbsup:

Kaotic Lazagna

01-25-2009, 04:44 PM

Cool, thanks. :thumbsup:

TEHxFALLEN V1.2

01-25-2009, 05:28 PM

I like it RAW. lol jk.

Bob_VT

01-25-2009, 05:55 PM

I said it earlier.... try picasa and it's free. It will at least open the files and allow you some control.

eTiMaGo

01-25-2009, 11:51 PM

Anything and everything you know about RAW vs jpeg. :biggrin: Thanks. :thumbsup:

RAW, as the name indicates, is the raw unprocessed data straight from the image sensor. The jpg files are processed and compressed, and thus are not as "pure" as the RAW file, but they are far easier to work on, so it's always a compromise between convenience and image quality.

Black Yaris

01-31-2009, 09:10 PM

someone on here will know this.....

when working with a RAW image in photoshop, I want to crop a photo down then do other editing.....but I have not figured out to apply the crop

firemachine69

01-31-2009, 09:17 PM

Adobe has it's own conversion for RAW.

A RAW is not a JPEG. Rule number 1359 of photography. :biggrin:

SailDesign

01-31-2009, 09:22 PM

someone on here will know this.....

when working with a RAW image in photoshop, I want to crop a photo down then do other editing.....but I have not figured out to apply the crop

In Adobe RAW, which is what P'Shop will throw you into with a RAW file (hopefully), you cannot do anything much but adjust settings - contrast, exposure, gamma, etc. Then you have to go into Photoshop itself to crop and do all the other fun stuff.

Black Yaris

01-31-2009, 09:26 PM

well there is a button to crop in Adobe RAW.... I can select the area to crop, but I do not know how to apply that crop

here is a pic of what I am talking about
http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j111/jthomas43613/desk-1.jpg

SailDesign

01-31-2009, 09:42 PM

OK - that will crop the whole RAW file, and you wil not get it back - ever. To use it, simply lay out the crop on the screen as you show, and push the "Open" button. your file is now permanently cropped
If you take the uncropped file to P'shop itself, you can crop using "hide" and the cropped part is hidden in the .psd file, but you can save the cropped version as a jpeg. If you ever want the cropped area back, you can get it back, or go to the original RAW file again.

Black Yaris

01-31-2009, 11:09 PM

ok got it

SailDesign

02-01-2009, 11:16 AM

SailDesign, if i may correct you. As long as the original RAW file has not been overwritten you can keep changing everything you want as many times as you want. What happens in PS when you open a RAW file it will create a configuration file that corresponds to a specific RAW file, this config file will have the settings you used to modify your RAW file. To go back to the original unaltered RAW file you simply delete the config file and thats it. Also the cropping will only be applied when the Save command is issued.

Good enough! Thanks for the correction.