Why didn't you invest 1000$ more to buy a Corolla instead

[Dorkinheimer]

The basic Sedan Yaris and besic Sedan Corolla are about 845 $ apart.

[Yawesh]

The basic Sedan Yaris and besic Sedan Corolla are about 900 $ apart.

where did you get that info? lol even website says corolla starts at 15k base

[Dorkinheimer]

where did you get that info? lol even website says corolla starts at 15k base


On Toyota's site

http://www.toyota.ca/cgi-bin/WebObjects/WWW.woa/24/wo/Home.Vehicles-GgVGCwU3BYvmqjPmwLpNww/0.9?fmg%2fvehicles%2findex%2ehtml

Wait for page to load properly, then put your mouse over the sedan yaris and then the corolla. Less than 1000$ apart.

13,990 $ for the SEDAN yaris
14,835 $ for the Corolla

You get a bigger motor, bigger car, more comfort, more power, just about as good mileage per gallon, new model, and you get more when you eventually trade it in.

Don't get me wrong, I had a Yaris and liked it, but why not pay 845$ more for a Corolla

[Yawesh]

On Toyota's site

http://www.toyota.ca/cgi-bin/WebObjects/WWW.woa/24/wo/Home.Vehicles-GgVGCwU3BYvmqjPmwLpNww/0.9?fmg%2fvehicles%2findex%2ehtml

Wait for page to load properly, then put your mouse over the sedan yaris and then the corolla. Less than 1000$ apart.

13,990 $ for the SEDAN yaris
14,835 $ for the Corolla

You get a bigger motor, bigger car, more comfort, more power, just about as good mileage per gallon, new model, and you get more when you eventually trade it in.

Don't get me wrong, I had a Yaris and liked it, but why not pay 1000$ more for a Corolla

too bad in the US they don't sell it like that , but i see your point now.

[Dorkinheimer]

Maybe my link didn't work...
try this one

http://www.toyota.ca/

then click on ENGLISH, then NEW Vehicles....let the page load... then put your mouse over each car and see the basic price for each model

Between the Yaris (sedan) and the Corolla, there is only 845$ difference.

Is there a bigger difference in price between these 2 models, in the US?

[marcus]

looks..matter.

[Ashley87]

Why would I want a boring sedan that everyone in the world seems to own? I rarely see other Yarii on the road, but it seems that every other car that goes by is a Corolla. And bigger car isn't always better... Plus I love liftbacks. :thumbup:

[Dorkinheimer]

I love the Yaris too, but it's as if you could get a Camry for 1000$ more than a Corolla and you'd still say no....

[ZING]

Does the corolla have good aftermarket support? :s

[Yawesh]

Maybe my link didn't work...
try this one

http://www.toyota.ca/

then click on ENGLISH, then NEW Vehicles....let the page load... then put your mouse over each car and see the basic price for each model

Between the Yaris (sedan) and the Corolla, there is only 845$ difference.

Is there a bigger difference in price between these 2 models, in the US?


i saw the canandian website, i believe you but it looks like the CE model starts off at 15,350 here even with manual

[MadMax]

Yes, there is a "cool" factor here.

Corollas are very generic, whereas Yarii are much rarer birds and therefor draw attention all over the place. I doubt you will ever see as many Yarii as you do Corollas; but the one thing for sure is that a Yaris will grab your eye much more so than a Corolla!

Cheers! M2

[Thirty-Nine]

I like the smaller size of the Yaris.

[edmcc]

I liked the liftback and since there isn't one for the Corolla...

[Chupacabra]

looks..matter.


Stole the words from my mouth.

[PaidTimeOff]

1. we just saved $845
2. it's not just another humdrum sedan.
3. "looks..matter" - marcus

Question: if you yourself have owned a yaris, then why did YOU buy it over that corolla? There's your answer right there.

[why?]

I've never see a girl do the "oh my God that is so adorable," dance over a corolla, yet they do it for my yaris.

Or, i could say it is about being different. There are a few hundred thousand corollas bought every year, and a lot fewer yaris.

It is also smaller, and that means a ton to me. And a million and a half reasons why I never even considered to think about actually purchasing a corolla.

[Morgan]

yaris is shorter to write at autox

[33OH]

Hatchback. Cost. Gas Mileage. Looks.

[SailDesign]

By the same token, why wouldn't you invest another, say, 10k and buy a Bimmer? would be just as (il)logical.

[tetzyamis]

Corolla in U.S. is built in U.S., while Yaris is still 100% built in Japan.
And..., "looks..matter" - marcus

[ddongbap]

looks..matter.

So.. true.

[gid]

nostalgia . Fun to have a 2 door liftback again . We had PLYMOUTH Champ / DODGE Colt ( Mitsu ) liftbacks , a few FORD Festivas ( Mazda 121 ) , and V.W. Rabbit ( diesel ) in the ol' days . Might of left out few other cars . The ol' noggin ain't what it used to be :rolleyes: .

[33OH]

nostalgia . Fun to have a 2 door liftback again . We had PLYMOUTH Champ / DODGE Colt ( Mitsu ) liftbacks , a few FORD Festivas ( Mazda 121 ) , and V.W. Rabbit ( diesel ) in the ol' days . Might of left out few other cars . The ol' noggin ain't what it used to be :rolleyes: .

I had an '88 Dodge Colt 4 speed manual. :thumbsup:

Loved that little car.

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/29/46542767_da9c560ef6.jpg?v=0

[YarisSedan]

Another note that base corolla dosnt really exist. Well it does but you cant just walk into any dealer and ask for one. If they have one its only going to be one and not the color you want. Point being no one buys a corolla with no power windows locks etc. They are out there just very hard to find. Id rather just have a deck out yaris for the same price as a stripped down corolla

[NJBob]

Price, then looks, then mileage etc. With the money I saved on my Lil' Blue, i got nice wheels and can do some cool upgrades. The "S" had things I didn't want for more money. Corolla just didn't do it for me at all.
I had a ball park price then picked what looked the coolest and the rest followed nicely. Answer: Yaris

[KCALB SIRAY]

Because I spent the extra money on the divorce

[nemelek]

Because I spent the extra money on the divorce

So does your x drive a Corolla?

[KCALB SIRAY]

So does your x drive a Corolla?

Nope, but I got the dog, yeah, stickin to the woman:headbang:

[nemelek]

The real winners in my divorce was the lawyers.

[chibipod]

A cool 2 door LB for less $ that's made in Japan, or... another Corolla (no offence to owners but around here it seems like 1 in 3 cars is a Corolla).

[Dorkinheimer]

I agree that the Yaris looks "cool" and people turn around more when they look at it.
Corolla is more of a family car, older person car, more conservative minded.

OK, tell me this, will the Yaris's motor last as long, since it's smaller?

That also would weigh in my decision when having to chose between a 1.5 liter and 1.8 liter.

[gid]

I had an '88 Dodge Colt 4 speed manual. :thumbsup:

Loved that little car.

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/29/46542767_da9c560ef6.jpg?v=0 with the 1.5 ltr. engine and the 4 speed manual . 1st a gold '87 , '85 in a cream , and then a red '86 just like yours . Before that '80 to '84 and a new 92 H.B. after . Good cars . All these were $125 > $1,400 used . All lasted 1 > 3 years and took a beating . Many were used for delivery . Fairly easy to maintain too . :thumbsup:

[33OH]

with the 1.5 ltr. engine and the 4 speed manual . 1st a gold '87 , '85 in a cream , and then a red '86 just like yours . Before that '80 to '84 and a new 92 H.B. after . Good cars . All these were $125 > $1,400 used . All lasted 1 > 3 years and took a beating . Many were used for delivery . Fairly easy to maintain too . :thumbsup:

Mine was $100 but only lasted me 2 months. But I sold it for $100 even after I blew up the engine, so no worries. I do miss her. :cry:

[chibipod]

OK, tell me this, will the Yaris's motor last as long, since it's smaller?


I hope so - I just passed the 1k mark on mine. :biggrin:

[NJBob]

they're both Toyota so the wheels will probably fall off before the engine dies, IF you maintain it properly and minimize the abuse

Another bonus to owning a Toyota. Boyeeeeeeee :thumbsup:

[specialeducator]

When I compared the two cars there was about $2,7000 difference between the two. That is why i went with the Yaris.

[tubacase]

The Corrolla is just too big for my use - since I'm a traveling teacher I always get the hard to find spots! And the 5door yaris has that usefull hatch, gotta upgrade to the Matrix for the Corrolla equivilant, again too big. My little Yaris makes my Xb look like a gas hog!

[Dorkinheimer]

I really loved my 2007 Yaris. I change cars often, and would get another brand new one, but one thing bugged me,well lets say 4 things bugged me.

1) RPM too high with the manual at highway speeds
2) clutch friction point too precise and hard to start in a hill, so as the corolla, its a toyota charactristic, not Yaris's problem
3) Gas pedal way too close to the central part ( carpet ) and too close to the brake pedal, so when I wear boots in the winter, it's hard to drive.
4) I prefer seeing the speedometer right in front of me, instead of in the middle of the dash. Often I wondered if my lights were ON, because it was pitch black infront of me.

[daf62757]

While the Corolla is an excellent choice, the Yaris shows more character and styling. Your car is an extension of your personality.

[daf62757]

Another note that base corolla dosnt really exist. Well it does but you cant just walk into any dealer and ask for one. If they have one its only going to be one and not the color you want. Point being no one buys a corolla with no power windows locks etc. They are out there just very hard to find. Id rather just have a deck out yaris for the same price as a stripped down corolla

There is a dealer near me that is selling 2009 Corollas for 12999. They are manual, AC, and that is it. They order them and sell them for cheap to people who always wanted a Toyota, but can't afford them.

[b_hickman11]

On Toyota's site

http://www.toyota.ca/cgi-bin/WebObjects/WWW.woa/24/wo/Home.Vehicles-GgVGCwU3BYvmqjPmwLpNww/0.9?fmg%2fvehicles%2findex%2ehtml

Wait for page to load properly, then put your mouse over the sedan yaris and then the corolla. Less than 1000$ apart.

13,990 $ for the SEDAN yaris
14,835 $ for the Corolla

You get a bigger motor, bigger car, more comfort, more power, just about as good mileage per gallon, new model, and you get more when you eventually trade it in.

Don't get me wrong, I had a Yaris and liked it, but why not pay 845$ more for a Corolla

The Yaris Sedan's starting price in my area is $12,965. The Corolla is $15,350. Thats a difference of over $2300. So maybe thats why I didnt buy one.

[at3GG]

Because I havent come across CorollaWorld.com yet...

[YarisSedan]

There is a dealer near me that is selling 2009 Corollas for 12999. They are manual, AC, and that is it. They order them and sell them for cheap to people who always wanted a Toyota, but can't afford them.

Maybe could just be your area. Most dealers wont do that because there is zero profit margin doing that. They make only a few hundred dollars if that much selling a base corolla.

[cfiimei]

Character.

[Altitude]

Even if a Corolla was cheaper - I'd still have bought the Yaris.

To steal a line from Jeep owners (of which I am one) 'It's a Yaris thing.'

[dvlnblkdrs]

having sex in a yaris is much easier than having sex in a corolla :tongue:

[DefStarYaris]

When I got my Yaris I was pretty much deciding between it and a Corolla I liked. I chose the Yaris for both price and the fact that I see about 100 Corollas everyday to and from work. I'd prefer my car to stand out a little bit in the sea of boring sedans.

[Kal-El]

Another note that base corolla dosnt really exist. Well it does but you cant just walk into any dealer and ask for one. If they have one its only going to be one and not the color you want. Point being no one buys a corolla with no power windows locks etc. They are out there just very hard to find. Id rather just have a deck out yaris for the same price as a stripped down corolla

Exactly. It's like finding a real "base" Yaris (no radio, ect.). They almost don't exist.

Plus, model segments always run into each other. A loaded Corolla is as much as a low end Camry, and so on...

[gid]

Corolla in U.S. is built in U.S., while Yaris is still 100% built in Japan.
And..., "looks..matter" - marcus the '09 Corollas we've test driven and looked at on dealer lots have said made in JAPAN . All of them . I sh*t you not . Not from CANADA or NUMMI plant in CALIFORNIA .

[gid]

I really loved my 2007 Yaris. I change cars often, and would get another brand new one, but one thing bugged me,well lets say 4 things bugged me.

1) RPM too high with the manual at highway speeds
2) clutch friction point too precise and hard to start in a hill, so as the corolla, its a toyota charactristic, not Yaris's problem
3) Gas pedal way too close to the central part ( carpet ) and too close to the brake pedal, so when I wear boots in the winter, it's hard to drive.
4) I prefer seeing the speedometer right in front of me, instead of in the middle of the dash. Often I wondered if my lights were ON, because it was pitch black infront of me. the COROLLAs and VIBES I've driven had smoother , longer clutch engagement . The YARIS is very pinpoint , quicker . Still like it tho . Little fart grows on yeh like a wart on your butt cheek ( a BLAZING BLUE wart :biggrin: ) .

[gid]

we could of had an base model '08 COROLLA with a 5 speed manual and the convenience package for around $500 more than the '08 5 speed base model YARIS L.B. with convenience package . Both were at same dealer . After test driving both preferred the YARIS for its looks ( nostalgia ) and had no rattles at that time like the COROLLA did ( test drive all new cars on poor back streets / roads for rattle test or other noises ) . The COROLLAs clutch engagement was much easier than the YARIS but wasn't enough to sway us it's way . :wink:

[MUSKOKA800]

On Toyota's site

http://www.toyota.ca/cgi-bin/WebObjects/WWW.woa/24/wo/Home.Vehicles-GgVGCwU3BYvmqjPmwLpNww/0.9?fmg%2fvehicles%2findex%2ehtml

Wait for page to load properly, then put your mouse over the sedan yaris and then the corolla. Less than 1000$ apart.

13,990 $ for the SEDAN yaris
14,835 $ for the Corolla

You get a bigger motor, bigger car, more comfort, more power, just about as good mileage per gallon, new model, and you get more when you eventually trade it in.

Don't get me wrong, I had a Yaris and liked it, but why not pay 845$ more for a Corolla

Because I didn't want to drive a car famous for being pokey and jamming up traffic. After ~35 years on Canadian roads I've learned the four cars to never get behind are...Corolla, Camry, Cadillac, Jaguar. The demographic who buy those models are typically ultra conservative, ultra cautious/paraniod types (I won't call them drivers) or just plain OLD. The newer Camry SE (for those who still have a pulse) thankfully being an exception.

[Shroomster]

my reasoning? because a fresh off the assembly line corolla cost about $3,000-3,500 USD (not sure what model but they're all close probably) sooo you can tell me why you would want to pay another 8-10k for one.....

[MadMax]

Even if a Corolla was cheaper - I'd still have bought the Yaris.

To steal a line from Jeep owners (of which I am one) 'It's a Yaris thing.'


I also own a Jeep, and it is the simplicity of the Wrangler that draws me to other vehicles that are of the same lack of complexity. I don't even have ABS on either vehicle, in the Jeep it is just something else to break offroad, and on the Yaris I would prefer to learn how to brake properly than to allow a machine to do it.

And before anyone starts an ABS debate, I am well aware of the benefits of the system. I just think an experienced and alert driver can do better.

Cheers! M2

[eTiMaGo]

corolla = bland, common
yaris = funky, fresh

[Altitude]

I also own a Jeep, and it is the simplicity of the Wrangler that draws me to other vehicles that are of the same lack of complexity. I don't even have ABS on either vehicle, in the Jeep it is just something else to break offroad, and on the Yaris I would prefer to learn how to brake properly than to allow a machine to do it.

And before anyone starts an ABS debate, I am well aware of the benefits of the system. I just think an experienced and alert driver can do better.

Cheers! M2

Amen. Love my Wrangler and consider myself fortunate to have two vehicles that I enjoy so much. I really have the best of both worlds, my go anywhere do anything gas guzzling Jeep and my stylish fun to drive gas miser Yaris. Woot!

On a similar note - I could have had a Cherokee for not much more too, but I went for the Wrangler instead. It's over 10 years old and solid as a rock.

[ulmaitre]

I can average over 50 mpg on my Yaris, and I have more headroom. Easy choice for me. No Corolla's gonna get 50 mpg. Also, I paid exactly $11,000 for my Yaris LB with the Convenience Package. No Corolla goes for that price.

[tetzyamis]

I can average over 50 mpg on my Yaris

:eek:

[Tamago]

the new dual vvti 1.8L in a corolla will OWN the 11year old 1.5L 1nzfe in "our cars" as it's said on yarisworld

[SailDesign]

the new dual vvti 1.8L in a corolla will OWN the 11year old 1.5L 1nzfe in "our cars" as it's said on yarisworld

Yebbut... If we wanted to win drag races we wouldn't have bought Yarii. :smile:

[ulmaitre]

the new dual vvti 1.8L in a corolla will OWN the 11year old 1.5L 1nzfe in "our cars" as it's said on yarisworld

Own it in which way? I suppose the enormous 0.3 liter volume advantage will certainly smoke the tires. As for fuel economy, er, the Yaris engine is much better. As for reliability, er, the Yaris engine has decades of proven reliability. As for dual cams, er, they take more power to run and have double the moving parts to break. I dunno...I would rather have the Yaris engine personally.

[tetzyamis]

Yebbut... If we wanted to win drag races we wouldn't have bought Yarii. :smile:

Or a Corolla :biggrin:

[RagnaCaT]

What kind of topic is this??? Geez YARIS FTW! go to a corolla site and see how much fun you get there! There is a FUN factor attached to Yaris and not to grandmas corolla!

[Tamago]

Own it in which way? I suppose the enormous 0.3 liter volume advantage will certainly smoke the tires. As for fuel economy, er, the Yaris engine is much better. As for reliability, er, the Yaris engine has decades of proven reliability. As for dual cams, er, they take more power to run and have double the moving parts to break. I dunno...I would rather have the Yaris engine personally.


errr your 1nz HAS DUAL CAMS
err my 2002 corolla got 41mpg
err i've blown up one 1nz already (bone stock) and never blew up a corolla engine


but i can see where your argument may be strong among the ignorant ;)

[ulmaitre]

errr your 1nz HAS DUAL CAMS
err my 2002 corolla got 41mpg
err i've blown up one 1nz already (bone stock) and never blew up a corolla engine


but i can see where your argument may be strong among the ignorant ;)

1. Fair enough.
2. 41 mpg is good. 52 is better.
3. Anecdotal evidence is not valid evidence. People have blown up Corollas too. and specifically what do you mean by "blew up?" Do you mean that the engine literally spontaneously exploded in a giant fireball? Or, were there any other issues, such as driving style, load, temperature, maintenance, etc., that drove it to fail? If you were driving down the street tand the perfectly-maintaine engine suddenly and spontaneously burst into flames in a giant burst of fireball, then I would call Toyota. you probably have a giant lawsuit settlement awaiting you too, not to mention a worldwide recall!

[gid]

the 2000 PRIZM ( Corolla ) with 5 speed manual that we traded in for the '08 L.B. got 43.3 m.p.g. not long before the purchase of the '08 5 speed manual L.B.. We almost decided to turn around the night we went and picked up the L.B. due to the gas mileage the PRIZM was getting , even at 90,000 + miles . Wasn't even trying that hard to get that mileage , so may have done better than it's all time best of 43.3 m.p.g. :thumbsup: . Wonder if it was trying to tell us something :rolleyes: . Miss that car :frown: .

[gid]

Sorry , but I / we have a hard time buying those averaging 50+ m.p.g. with their YARII . Think I may have stepped knee deep in a pile of steamy fresh cra*p that's gonna hit the fan and head my way :biggrin: . Let it rip . :rolleyes:

[ulmaitre]

Sorry , but I / we have a hard time buying those averaging 50+ m.p.g. with their YARII . Think I may have stepped knee deep in a pile of steamy fresh cra*p that's gonna hit the fan and head my way :biggrin: . Let it rip . :rolleyes:

Sorry you have a hard time buying it. But it is true. Would a photograph of my ScanGuage II at 52mpg work? I really do. I am a hypermiler. I get 50 +. It is entirely possible with a combination of the right factors.

[gid]

just how accurate is the SCANGUAGE ? I too hypermile as much as possible , we had a '07 PRIUS that we learned this procees on and even with that 50+ m.p.g. could be a chore to get .

[ulmaitre]

just how accurate is the SCANGUAGE ? I too hypermile as much as possible , we had a '07 PRIUS that we learned this procees on and even with that 50+ m.p.g. could be a chore to get .

The ScanGuage II is very accurate. Plus, when I manually do the math at the pump, it matches the ScanGuage II's numbers.

[gid]

the day I achieve the same with either one of our YARII ( or both ) as you I'll let you know .

[ulmaitre]

the day I achieve the same as you I'll let you know .

Well, honestly, it is not that hard. Hypermiling techniques help alot. Also I have a manual transmission. I use cruise control set to 60 mph on the flat interstate, no auxilaries on, I make heavy use of DFCO, I keep the tires inflate well, etc. I am sorry if you do not believe me; that is your prerogative. But I get 52 mpg quite often.

[gid]

there are many factors . Weather , terrain , gas ( regional additives ) , etc.. Maybe this is why it's harder to accomplish the 50+ mark for us . :iono: . Do you ? I don't . :biggrin:

[ulmaitre]

there are many factors . Weather , terrain , gas ( regional additives ) , etc.. Maybe this is why it's harder to accomplish the 50+ mark for us . :iono: . Do you ? I don't . :biggrin:

Quite possible indeed.

[gid]

carry on YARIIsan . :bow: . :wink:

[gid]

may I try to snatch those m.p.g.s from your hand ? :biggrin:

[aliusman]

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[YariSpeed]

cool factor...hatchback versatility...price...better aftermarket support...and of course yarisworld.com...:cool:

[Pars]

Bigger is not necessarily better. It depends on your personal taste and your needs. The Corolla weights 430lb more then Yaris, which is significant. Especially at the gas pumps or when you're flying around the turns.

Regarding engine, that 1.5L is extremely quick. It doesn't have the low end grunt and clutch take-up sucks. But if you can get past that, it's a very quick engine. The portly Corolla would be hard pressed to keep up with the Yaris, especially those Yaris's that aren't overloaded with the automatic transmission.

Also, at top speed, where weight is no longer the biggest factor, I'm able to easily take my Liftback to cut-out speeds (manual transmission), I doubt the new engine in the Corolla would do better.

[Tamago]

Bigger is not necessarily better. It depends on your personal taste and your needs. The Corolla weights 430lb more then Yaris, which is significant. Especially at the gas pumps or when you're flying around the turns.

Regarding engine, that 1.5L is extremely quick. It doesn't have the low end grunt and clutch take-up sucks. But if you can get past that, it's a very quick engine. The portly Corolla would be hard pressed to keep up with the Yaris, especially those Yaris's that aren't overloaded with the automatic transmission.

Also, at top speed, where weight is no longer the biggest factor, I'm able to easily take my Liftback to cut-out speeds (manual transmission), I doubt the new engine in the Corolla would do better.

speculation makes me :laugh: . even on the older 1zzfe my corolla outperformed my xA, stock for stock.

regarding the 1.5L engine being "extremely quick" i'm curious what you drove before you got it? ?

[Russelt3hPirate]

We got a Yaris b/c 3dr hatch backs are FTW

End of story.

[SailDesign]

Anyone else get the impression Tamago just bought a Corolla and now he can't figure out why?
It's called Buyer's Remorse.

[Russelt3hPirate]

Anyone else get the impression Tamago just bought a Corolla and now he can't figure out why?
It's called Buyer's Remorse.

No, Tamago has own'd a previous gen Corolla though.

Tamago has a turbo 1nzfe ;)

[Tamago]

Anyone else get the impression Tamago just bought a Corolla and now he can't figure out why?
It's called Buyer's Remorse.

check your Depends...

[Thej3sta2]

I Have a PERFECTLY GOOD answer

Its F***ing YARISWORLD

NOT COROLLA WORLD

[SailDesign]

check your Depends...

Am I supposed to be offended by that?
Coz it's not working... :laugh:

[Tamago]

Am I supposed to be offended by that?
Coz it's not working... :laugh:

no, i was going for :laugh:

[helphelp911]

i will take corolla if price difference < 1000

the most upset to me in yaris is the build quality.
my yaris has 40000km. i start hear those squeak sound while driving from the car body (like hatch, door etc).
my old carmy (10 years old) is still dead silent.

[gid]

I Have a PERFECTLY GOOD answer

Its F***ing YARISWORLD

NOT COROLLA WORLD no need for profanity and prejudice . Tolerance is bliss :wink: . Man , that's some good sh*t :smoking: . Not really :biggrin: .

[tetzyamis]

Well, honestly, it is not that hard. Hypermiling techniques help alot. Also I have a manual transmission. I use cruise control set to 60 mph on the flat interstate, no auxilaries on, I make heavy use of DFCO, I keep the tires inflate well, etc. I am sorry if you do not believe me; that is your prerogative. But I get 52 mpg quite often.

Do you get 52 mpg at the time you're going at 60 mph?
Or do you get average of 52 mpg from the whole tank?

[at3GG]

ahh j3st3r ya stole my line..check previous page)......cant you come up with your own material?? haha jk great minds think alike!

[Thej3sta2]

My bad dog i saw the thread and flipped out

[Rain]

The corolla is not as cute as the yaris =]

[firemachine69]

I only took the Yaris over the Corolla because of the hatch (Vibe/Matrix is an overweight pig nowadays)... And I sincerely regret not buying a Corolla...

[KCALB SIRAY]

I am also a hypermiler..I get 50+ mpg onthe Yaris under ideal conditions...I can post a pic to prove too :)

do it

[voodoo22]

If you drive mostly hwy, almost never exceed 55 mph or 90 km/h and do not use your A/C, it is routine to break 50 US mpg in the Yaris with an AT when temperatures are above 0 degrees Celsius. I managed 11 full tanks in a row when I started following these basic rules this past summer from June until October.

Under these same conditions but with the temperature under 0 degrees Celsius and closer to -10 to -25 I haven't got worse than 47 mpg and have achieved a few over 50, but to do this in the winter you have to cut out virtually all short trips, as the car takes a huge hit to FE if you aren't driving long enough to warm up the engine.

[SailDesign]

For the record, can the 50+ mpg folks (some of whom I know are Canadian) post the number of fluid ounces in their points or gallons. If you are using Imperial measurements, then 50+ is the same as 40+ to the US gallon.

[1stToyota]

Because I couldn't park a Corolla in my garage with plenty of room to walk around my car, and that's with my rider mower, 2 push mowers and a utility wagon in front of the car. :thumbup:

[derickveliz2]

I also own a 2004 Corolla, and it's great! good milage, reliable we love it.

But nothing compares to the Yaris, I had to have the Sedan "S" or the Corolla "S" and the difference in price was almost 4K.


My privius car was a Tacoma!

[at3GG]

I would believe 50mpg. Ive gotten 44ish on the highway on long trips sitting around 60mph with no hypermiling and the A/C on and off so with no A/C and someone with the patience to hypermile at 55mph....could be done fairly easily i would say.....all highway of course.

[Jem_hadar]

Bc i like hatchbacks.

(And with respect to the matrix (a corolla hatchback essentially), im not a fan of its poor(er) mileage.

plus i really dislike its dash... too busy and clustered... not open enough for me)

[Yawesh]

101 posts for this thread!, wow :bow:

[PaidTimeOff]

nothing gets the posts going like someone undermining our cars (and the sole reason we're all here in the first place). It's a call to arms and most of us are willing and ready to step up.

[Tamago]

nothing gets the posts going like someone undermining our cars (and the sole reason we're all here in the first place). It's a call to arms and most of us are willing and ready to step up.

..and blindly defend the lowest car on the USDM toyota totem pole..

[Shroomster]

..and blindly defend the lowest car on the USDM toyota totem pole..

tamago...down boy....

[Malaya1221]

^:bellyroll:

[PaidTimeOff]

..and blindly defend the lowest car on the USDM toyota totem pole..

srsly dude. We know you love your fit to death,

but fitfreak.net is that way ------->

Whichever car you prefer is your subjective opinion, but don't try to act like you're in on some kind of secret that we're not privy to. Most of us compared many of the cars in the subcompact class and we made the decision that was best for ourselves.

[BLAZINBLUEVITZ]

but fitfreak.net is that way ------->

.

its more like scionlife......

[Tamago]

srsly dude. We know you love your fit to death,

but fitfreak.net is that way ------->

Whichever car you prefer is your subjective opinion, but don't try to act like you're in on some kind of secret that we're not privy to. Most of us compared many of the cars in the subcompact class and we made the decision that was best for ourselves.

my point is this..

people drive around in yarii with chips on their shoulders and are overly jumpy to defend their decision for their purchase.

my "honda fit" has been the brunt of many jokes over the last 4 years and i've learned the best thing to do is laugh it off. why get uptight over what people think about what you drive? waste of energy IMO.

not once did i bash the Yaris. i'd never bash the yaris.. stock for stock it should out perform my "honda fit" in every way.

[Tamago]

by the way, how in the world did you come to the conclusion that i'm a fit owner?

[Rich k]

i had a corolla once and it sucked ass, swore never to own one again, if toyota hadn't added the Yaris under the corolla in their lineup i probably woulnd't have bought the brand ever again

[Tamago]

i had a corolla once and it sucked ass, swore never to own one again, if toyota hadn't added the Yaris under the corolla in their lineup i probably woulnd't have bought the brand ever again

more information please

and you're aware, the Yaris is just toyota's replacement for the ECHO right?

[Rich k]

The corolla travelling at 28 mph (2mph under the posted limit, and a solid 10mph under what other cars had been traversing this road at) going around a not too sharp bend that had been a tad bit over sanded (no snow, no ice, just salt and sand) completely gave up on the turn and went sideways off the road and into boulder and a tree. Thats a car sucking in my opinion. No it wasn't my first car, no it wasn't my first slide, yes i did turn into the slide, and yes i did turn out of the slide, and no i wasn't on the brake. Horrbly unsafe suspension, cute little wheels had no grip.

[Russelt3hPirate]

sounds like your tires failed.

[PaidTimeOff]

not once did i bash the Yaris. i'd never bash the yaris.. stock for stock it should out perform my "honda fit" in every way.

Funny you should say that when you just posted this...

..and blindly defend the lowest car on the USDM toyota totem pole..

Sounds like a bash to me.. I'm just sayin'... :rolleyes:

Just because it's a company's entry model vehicle doesn't automatically make it worse than any other vehicle in the company's lineup. You can buy an ipod shuffle over the ipod touch, and it doesn't necessarily make the shuffle work any worse than the touch. Companies don't create crappy cars on their bottom end just to convince you to spend more and buy their higher-end models. You buy whatever fits your needs/wants.

Again, most yaris owners here on this site have done the research on their vehicles. We're coming from real world experiences with the Yaris, and to some of us, it's the top of the heap when it comes to subcompacts. Just because some people love the car and you don't doesn't necessarily mean they're blindly defending it.

[Rich k]

Hey Toyota chose to put those on that car, seeing as they were part of the original equipment supplied by the mfr, they were properly inflated, well maintained, and the car was only 3 mos old i reserve the right to say its the car as a whole that failed and therefore sucked.

[Russelt3hPirate]

Hey Toyota chose to put those on that car, seeing as they were part of the original equipment supplied by the mfr, they were properly inflated, well maintained, and the car was only 3 mos old i reserve the right to say its the car as a whole that failed and therefore sucked.

doesn't mean they were any good.

same goes for the yaris stock tires RE92s = Fail. haha.

[Tamago]

The corolla travelling at 28 mph (2mph under the posted limit, and a solid 10mph under what other cars had been traversing this road at) going around a not too sharp bend that had been a tad bit over sanded (no snow, no ice, just salt and sand) completely gave up on the turn and went sideways off the road and into boulder and a tree. Thats a car sucking in my opinion. No it wasn't my first car, no it wasn't my first slide, yes i did turn into the slide, and yes i did turn out of the slide, and no i wasn't on the brake. Horrbly unsafe suspension, cute little wheels had no grip.

sounds like someone needs driving school..

or to have bought a good set of tires, had them properly inflated, and a good alignment done..

what is "safer" about your trailing arm semi-solid rear axle and mac strut front suspension than a corolla?

what year of corolla?

[Rich k]

00 corolla 3 mos old at time of accident

[Tamago]

Funny you should say that when you just posted this...



Sounds like a bash to me.. I'm just sayin'... :rolleyes:

Just because it's a company's entry model vehicle doesn't automatically make it worse than any other vehicle in the company's lineup. You can buy an ipod shuffle over the ipod touch, and it doesn't necessarily make the shuffle work any worse than the touch. Companies don't create crappy cars on their bottom end just to convince you to spend more and buy their higher-end models. You buy whatever fits your needs/wants.

Again, most yaris owners here on this site have done the research on their vehicles. We're coming from real world experiences with the Yaris, and to some of us, it's the top of the heap when it comes to subcompacts. Just because some people love the car and you don't doesn't necessarily mean they're blindly defending it.

saying something is low on the totem pole does not make it a bad thing lol, you're overly sensitive.

at least it's on the pole!

[Tamago]

00 corolla 3 mos old at time of accident

omg hahahaah

ok so you were driving a corolla that had independant rear suspension, factory rear swaybar swaybar, independant mac strut suspension

your yaris has a semi solid rear axle.

your yaris has 185/60/15 tire most likely bfgoodrich?
the corolla had 185/60/14 tires iirc bfgoodrich

your corolla weighed about 250lbs more than a yaris


you really just don't know how to drive, accept the fact.

[PaidTimeOff]

by the way, how in the world did you come to the conclusion that i'm a fit owner?

well, judging by this...


my "honda fit" has been the brunt of many jokes over the last 4 years and i've learned the best thing to do is laugh it off. why get uptight over what people think about what you drive? waste of energy IMO.


I was right, wasn't I? Man, I'm getting good at these psychic abilities :biggrin:

Let's just say that there are cues specific to some fit owners. Sorta like PK's uncanny ability to spot caveatipse within a 3 post margin...

[Tamago]

well, judging by this...



I was right, wasn't I? Man, I'm getting good at these psychic abilities :biggrin:

Let's just say that there are cues specific to some fit owners. Sorta like PK's uncanny ability to spot caveatipse within a 3 post margin...

you said FIT before i did


i put "honda fit" in my post with quotation marks since that's what you want to assume i drive.. do a little research next time

[Russelt3hPirate]

well, judging by this...



I was right, wasn't I? Man, I'm getting good at these psychic abilities :biggrin:

Let's just say that there are cues specific to some fit owners. Sorta like PK's uncanny ability to spot caveatipse within a 3 post margin...

hahaha you fail at internet research. hahaha.

I'll let you figure out why he put " " haha.

[PaidTimeOff]

saying something is low on the totem pole does not make it a bad thing lol, you're overly sensitive.

at least it's on the pole!

I was never upset about it, but it sounds like you're generalizing that yaris owners who announce their love of their vehicles are doing so blindly because there are better vehicles in Toyota's lineup... Or at least that's what I took from it. Was I wrong? I have an open mind, please clarify.

[Tamago]

nothing gets the posts going like someone undermining our cars (and the sole reason we're all here in the first place). It's a call to arms and most of us are willing and ready to step up.

I was never upset about it, but it sounds like you're generalizing that yaris owners who announce their love of their vehicles are doing so blindly because there are better vehicles in Toyota's lineup... Or at least that's what I took from it. Was I wrong? I have an open mind, please clarify.

no one is undermining the yaris. it has its place. i would pick a yaris over a corolla..

this is not a car argument, this is an attitude argument. the car is great.. blindly defending it is not so great.. all cars have faults, defects, oversights..

my car came without a mirror on the passenger side sun visor.. that's an oversight.. but if someone were to get in my car, flip down the visor and say "oh my god, you dont' have a mirror" should i say "stop undermining my car!" ? no.. because that's childish.

[PaidTimeOff]

So you refer to your scion as a "honda fit"? ok, because that makes a lot of sense... Sorry, but I can only go by what you state. bobby refers to his "fit" as a "phit" Should I assume he's talking about a completely different vehicle when he does this?

It says you drive a scion in your avatar pic, but does that automatically mean you only own that particular vehicle?

I apologize for not wasting the limited bandwidth on this crappy computer I have at work to double check every single poster's profile/garage. You're absolutely right, I have failed. EPICALLY. A thousand pardons for you, sir. Please excuse me while I go /wrists due to my failure...

My wrist -> :slice: <- Me

[Tamago]

Hey Toyota chose to put those on that car, seeing as they were part of the original equipment supplied by the mfr, they were properly inflated, well maintained, and the car was only 3 mos old i reserve the right to say its the car as a whole that failed and therefore sucked.


you reserve the right to say the moon is made of blue cheese, but that doesn't make it so..

[Tamago]

Anyone else get the impression Tamago just bought a Corolla and now he can't figure out why?
It's called Buyer's Remorse.

No, Tamago has own'd a previous gen Corolla though.

Tamago has a turbo 1nzfe ;)

well, judging by this...



I was right, wasn't I? Man, I'm getting good at these psychic abilities :biggrin:

Let's just say that there are cues specific to some fit owners. Sorta like PK's uncanny ability to spot caveatipse within a 3 post margin...

all u had to do was go back a few posts in this very thread and you would have seen that i do not drive a fit

[Tamago]

So you refer to your scion as a "honda fit"? ok, because that makes a lot of sense... Sorry, but I can only go by what you state. bobby refers to his "fit" as a "phit" Should I assume he's talking about a completely different vehicle when he does this?

It says you drive a scion in your avatar pic, but does that automatically mean you only own that particular vehicle?

I apologize for not wasting the limited bandwidth on this crappy computer I have at work to double check every single poster's profile/garage. You're absolutely right, I have failed. EPICALLY. A thousand pardons for you, sir. Please excuse me while I go /wrists due to my failure...

My wrist -> :slice: <- Me

i forgive you ;)

it says you drive a 2008 yaris in yours..

but for fun i'm gonna decide that you drive a chevy Aveo


how's that aveo treating you? aveofourms.failure.org is that way ----------------->

[Russelt3hPirate]

i forgive you ;)

I'm offended.

the yaris isn't flawed!! haha. leave the Yaris out of this discussion we're bashing the Corolla!

[Tamago]

I'm offended.

the yaris isn't flawed!! haha. leave the Yaris out of this discussion we're bashing the Corolla!

yes, let's get togther and BASH THE BEST SELLING CAR WORLDWIDE OF ALL TIME

[Tamago]

well, i've brought enough strife disappointment to this thread...

if anyone has questions, feel free to PM me.. i'm outta this one

[KCALB SIRAY]

Oooohh http://www.stupidchildren.com/news/_ChickFight.jpgfight...and I missed it =(

[SailDesign]

Oooohh http://www.stupidchildren.com/news/_ChickFight.jpgfight...and I missed it =(

Should oughta pay more attention, then, shouldn't ya? :biggrin:

[Kal-El]

The corolla travelling at 28 mph (2mph under the posted limit, and a solid 10mph under what other cars had been traversing this road at) going around a not too sharp bend that had been a tad bit over sanded (no snow, no ice, just salt and sand) completely gave up on the turn and went sideways off the road and into boulder and a tree. Thats a car sucking in my opinion. No it wasn't my first car, no it wasn't my first slide, yes i did turn into the slide, and yes i did turn out of the slide, and no i wasn't on the brake. Horrbly unsafe suspension, cute little wheels had no grip.

Dude, that has very little if anything to do with the Corolla. In fact, the Yaris wouldn't have done any better. Narrow econo tires - it happens.

[Altitude]

I swear there's something in the water down in Florida...

[Black Yaris]

I swear there's something in the water down in Florida...

Salt

[Shroomster]

were not all like this I swear....Sabre, Puetato, me, that other guy.....

[gid]

the 12" stock tires on the FORD Festivas ( Mazda 121 ) we had did quite well in snow and on ice . Was quite shocked at the way the 3 speed auto performed during the 1st ice storm :thumbsup: . Slapped 4 12" studded YOKOHAMAs on a '93 4 speed manual FORD Festiva with great results until it was rearended ( totaled ) while waiting for red light to change during a wet snowfall . Never fails :thumbdown: .

[gid]

yup , it's another feeding frenzy :rolleyes: . Shameful , aint it ? :respekt: ain't what it used to be :frown: .

[elementalist]

The corolla pricing in Canada is a bit of an anomoly. The new-gen corolla/matrix were released when the Canadian dollar was trading at parity with the US dollar. So the pricing was set at a fair bit lower than the previous generation. The Yaris was originally priced to be in line with the previous generation Corolla/Matrix. This has resulted in a much smaller price premium to get into the compact category of Toyota vehicles in Canada. Given that the Canadian dollar is much closer to its tradition levels (relative to the US). I expect that the next model refresh on the Corolla/Matrix platform will bump up the price significantly.

[ZING]

my car came without a mirror on the passenger side sun visor.


Same.

[Malaya1221]

old topic, same bullshit!:smile:

yaris vs corolla YW thread from 2006, fortunately it got cut out by the hack!

2006 YW Yaris vs Rolla (http://www.yarisworld.com/forums/showthread.php?t=92)

[SailDesign]

my car came without a mirror on the passenger side sun visor.. that's an oversight..

My Fox came with no passenger side wing mirror. That's a nod to building a car as cheaply as possible. My Yaris has one, so as far as I'm concerned I traded UP to the Yaris.

[why?]

I swear there's something in the water down in Florida...

Florida is like France, you just don't drink the water, you drink booze instead. They put so much crap in this water, chlorine, flouride, etc,etc,etc. It is absurd.

[Kaotic Lazagna]

Because I have at least three friends who have a Corolla. LOL!

That, and I think the Yaris is more sporty.

[Pars]

speculation makes me :laugh: . even on the older 1zzfe my corolla outperformed my xA, stock for stock.

regarding the 1.5L engine being "extremely quick" i'm curious what you drove before you got it? ?

That's just it, it' extremely quick for 1.5L (assuming manual tranny). Also, the xA isn't a Yaris, even if the engine is similar, at the wheels it's a different story.

My last car was a 98 Civic Hatch, which was faster then the Yaris and return better fuel consumption. However, the Yaris was still quicker from 120km to 150km, but after 150km, the Civic was quicker. The fastest car I've driven was a Turbo Supra and the fastest car I've owned was V8 Cutlass Supreme.

[Yoda]

Florida is like France, you just don't drink the water, you drink booze instead. They put so much crap in this water, chlorine, flouride, etc,etc,etc. It is absurd.

the water is great all that stuff adds flavor to it:thumbsup:

[Tamago]

That's just it, it' extremely quick for 1.5L (assuming manual tranny). Also, the xA isn't a Yaris, even if the engine is similar, at the wheels it's a different story.


so what's the difference then, same engine, same transmission, same axles... how is it "a different story" ?

[Bayou]

A larger percentage of the components of the Corolla is made in the USA excluding the main drivetrain. The alternator for example is made for Denso in USA. I test drove a corolla and its design and interior pieces felt boring and quite cheap. The seats felt really cheap and the engine noise was worse than the Yaris. There must be a higher profit margin on the corolla, as there are higher rebates for them (they wouldn't be giving rebates to do you a favor and they are STILL making a profit!).

[Tamago]

A larger percentage of the components of the Corolla is made in the USA excluding the main drivetrain. The alternator for example is made for Denso in USA. I test drove a corolla and its design and interior pieces felt boring and quite cheap. The seats felt really cheap and the engine noise was worse than the Yaris. There must be a higher profit margin on the corolla, as there are higher rebates for them (they wouldn't be giving rebates to do you a favor and they are STILL making a profit!).

nice first post

[tetzyamis]

so what's the difference then, same engine, same transmission, same axles... how is it "a different story" ?

Power steering system is different.

[Tamago]

Power steering system is different.

wow so THAT'S gonna make power numbers SO different lol

[ka0sx]

so what's the difference then, same engine, same transmission, same axles... how is it "a different story" ?

LBS/KG

corolla = 2822 curb
yaris = 2340 curb

nearly 500 lbs difference between the two

[Tamago]

LBS/KG

corolla = 2822 curb
yaris = 2340 curb

nearly 500 lbs difference between the two


that wasn't the argument buddy

[ka0sx]

that wasn't the argument buddy

sure it was assclown

That's just it, it' extremely quick for 1.5L (assuming manual tranny). Also, the xA isn't a Yaris, even if the engine is similar, at the wheels it's a different story.

at the wheels its a different story because the car is lighter
power to weight ratio.

[tetzyamis]

wow so THAT'S gonna make power numbers SO different lol

Who said it makes the power SO different, lol.
You just asked what the difference is, so I just mentioned it.

xA takes the power from the engine horse power.
Yaris takes the power from the electricity.
xA ends up having a little less horse power at the wheel and a little less fuel economy.
I'm guess the difference would be something like if the driver goes on diet and loses 50 lbs of weight, lol.

[Tamago]

That's just it, it' extremely quick for 1.5L (assuming manual tranny). Also, the xA isn't a Yaris, even if the engine is similar, at the wheels it's a different story.



LBS/KG

corolla = 2822 curb
yaris = 2340 curb

nearly 500 lbs difference between the two

that wasn't the argument buddy

sure it was assclown



at the wheels its a different story because the car is lighter
power to weight ratio.

read it again, pay attention lol, we were discussing xA vs yaris, not Corolla vs yaris

[Tamago]

Who said it makes the power SO different, lol.
You just asked what the difference is, so I just mentioned it.

xA takes the power from the engine horse power.
Yaris takes the power from the electricity.
xA ends up having a little less horse power at the wheel and a little less fuel economy.
I'm guess the difference would be something like if the driver goes on diet and loses 50 lbs of weight, lol.


ok buddy so answer me this

1.where does the electricity come from for your power steering on the yaris? thin air? no... it comes from the battery, and the battery is charged by the alternator. power is power lol

2. if you're "driving in a straight line" how much power is being consumed, electric to hydraulic?
3. did you ever consider gear ratios could be the reason the yaris gets better economy?

[ka0sx]

ok my apologies. =P
I thought he was comparing it to the corolla, now that i read it again as you pointed out, I actually stand on your side... >,< *crowns himself an assclown*

[Tamago]

ok my apologies. =P
I thought he was comparing it to the corolla, now that i read it again as you pointed out, I actually stand on your side... >,< *crowns himself an assclown*

it's all good, figured u'd missed the tiny xA part

[tetzyamis]

ok buddy so answer me this

1.where does the electricity come from for your power steering on the yaris? thin air? no... it comes from the battery, and the battery is charged by the alternator. power is power lol

2. if you're "driving in a straight line" how much power is being consumed, electric to hydraulic?
3. did you ever consider gear ratios could be the reason the yaris gets better economy?

1) Battery can be charged even when you're idling. Charged energy can then be used to steer. Without using battery, you need to get all power from the engine power at the time of steer. Power is power, but power can be saved instead of wasted.

2) It's true. This concept doesn't do any good for straight line.

3) Yes, gear ratio can make A LOT more difference that steering system. I just mentioned steering system because it just came to my mind at that time. There are so many things that can make difference and steering system was one thing, which probably is one of the smallest :(

[Morgan]

...3) Yes, gear ratio can make A LOT more difference that steering system. I just mentioned steering system because it just came to my mind at that time. There are so many things that can make difference and steering system was one thing, which probably is one of the smallest :(

umm you do realize he was referring to the transmission, right?

[tetzyamis]

umm you do realize he was referring to the transmission, right?

I can't think of anything else in the car that has a gear ratio other than transmission...:confused:
Is there anything else?

All I wanted to do was just to add one more difference between Yaris and xA since Tamago was listing down the differences and power steering system wasn't there.

If the gear ratio is different, then that's just another difference. :iono:

[Tamago]

I can't think of anything else in the car that has a gear ratio other than transmission...:confused:
Is there anything else?

All I wanted to do was just to add one more difference between Yaris and xA since Tamago was listing down the differences and power steering system wasn't there.

If the gear ratio is different, then that's just another difference. :iono:

my gears are shorter, which means my car = faster off the line ;)

oh and your other gear ratio is your rack and pinion ratio.

[tetzyamis]

my gears are shorter, which means my car = faster off the line ;)

oh and your other gear ratio is your rack and pinion ratio.

Oh, I see!!!
No wonder Morgan asked that since we were talking about steering.
Everything makes sense now :smile: