2ZZ Yaris, It can be done!

[cdydjded]

I witnessed first hand a 4dr Yaris this weekend with a 2ZZ 6spd swap installed. 17858
I have more pics, video & info coming soon. On a side note the turbo kit is still coming, I have just been to busy with a few other personal things, I will try to update everyone on the turbo kit ASAP

[BLAZINBLUEVITZ]

i knew it could be done but im more interested in that 6 speed swap.....

[Marfulion]

:bow:

[jinxor]

that looks sweet..... 6 speed yaris with vvtli turbo sounds really whoa!!!

[Marfulion]

VIDEOS PLEASE!!!!

[Clode]

woowww...

this is a VVTL-i...in Europe this motor produce 192cv at 8.300 g/min (189 hp/192 PS) 180/185Nm


how many horse power in USA??

[thebarber]

woowww...

this is a VVTL-i...in Europe this motor produce 192cv at 8.300 g/min (189 hp/192 PS) 180/185Nm


how many horse power in USA??

pretty much the same...generally accepted as 180hp

[PetersRedYaris]

Where's the turbo going to fit, it looks quite full under the hood?

[pinoypizzaboy]

can this fiit the LB?

[Thirty-Nine]

This must be the vehicle whose video has been posted up running darn-fast quarter mile times. Very cool. I'm sure it was a lot of work shoehorning that engine into the bay. Plus, I know I'd have a problem registering something like that for street use. Regardless, it's pretty neat!

[thebarber]

Where's the turbo going to fit, it looks quite full under the hood?

OP didn't say anything about a 2zz turbo

i doubt there's room between the firewall and exhaust manifold for a turbo, nor adequate room for intercooler piping in the engine bay...

i wouldn't mind an idea of what it takes to shoehorn a 2zz into that yaris...

[pinoypizzaboy]

this car is a perfect match for a k20 fit

[PHXDEMON]

:bow: More details please? If this swap is possible with out extremely extensive amounts of work I may just retire my yaris as a DD and buy a busted POS beater for a 1000 bucks to drive during its downtime for the swap.

[thebarber]

i imagine the swap involves some notching/boxing of the framing rails...

[PHXDEMON]

i imagine the swap involves some notching/boxing of the framing rails...
I'm fine with that. The only thing I'm afraid of is extensive wiring.

[PETERPOOP]

the turbo kit he is talking about is the $2500 turbo kit he was making to sell to us.

[botchilah]

wow nice I'd like to do THAT in my Yaris hehehe (when I finally buy it this week, hopefully)

[Kaotic Lazagna]

I would so like that swap!

[ddongbap]

this car is a perfect match for a k20 fit

My thoughts EGGGGGzactly.

[TEHxFALLEN V1.2]

I jizzed in my pants.

[eTiMaGo]

Aaaah nice to actually see a picture! There's apparently a few of these running around Bangkok but I had yet to see any with my own eyes, gotta make for an insane drive!

[cdydjded]

can this fiit the LB?

Yes it will fit the LB. :thumbup:

[cdydjded]

This must be the vehicle whose video has been posted up running darn-fast quarter mile times. Very cool. I'm sure it was a lot of work shoehorning that engine into the bay. Plus, I know I'd have a problem registering something like that for street use. Regardless, it's pretty neat!

Yes it is the same car in the video, it runs 13's on motor & 12.50's on a 50 shot with crappy 60ft's, beleive it of not it fits pretty well, not sure on registration issues but it would be like having a K series in a Civic, find out with someone in you town if there are any issues

[cdydjded]

this car is a perfect match for a k20 fit The K20 is a hell of an engine, but I can assure you it will be 100 times harder to install, its easier to buy a Civic & purchase all the already available parts from Hybrid Racing or Hasport

[cdydjded]

i imagine the swap involves some notching/boxing of the framing rails...
Yes the frame rail on the drivers side needs to be notched, but only if you use a 6spd, also the engine cradle needs to be modified

[cdydjded]

I'm fine with that. The only thing I'm afraid of is extensive wiring.
Wiring is the biggest issue with the swap & not just anyone can do it

[Tamago]

Wiring is the biggest issue with the swap & not just anyone can do it

wiring isn't THAT daunting if one takes his time

[cdydjded]

wiring isn't THAT daunting if one takes his time

Tamago you'll like this info, the guy I met was 50% of the way done in installing a 2ZZ in a xA, I have a video of that also, I took video on my BlackBerry, can someone help me on how to post the videos?

[Tamago]

Tamago you'll like this info, the guy I met was 50% of the way done in installing a 2ZZ in a xA, I have a video of that also, I took video on my BlackBerry, can someone help me on how to post the videos?

that sounds good. how big are the videos, if they're under 10mb you can email them to me. PM me for my email address.

is the car in the US or puerto rico

[whooppee777]

is the car in the US or puerto rico

if its white and in PR then its the same one i've posted videos of during runs at the track.

did the guy say how much this cost him, who installed it and what hassles did he have?

[cdydjded]

if its white and in PR then its the same one i've posted videos of during runs at the track.

did the guy say how much this cost him, who installed it and what hassles did he have?

Yes its the white one from PR, I did not ask him about cost because it would not relate towhat it would cost here, he did all the mechanical work & an auto electrician did all the electrical work, as for hassles there are some like with any swap, I have all the details & will inform everyone soon

[Nexus1155]

So if i have an auto tranny i wouldn't have to notch the frame rail? Do all the stock electronics work with the current wiring as well? I mean $1000-2000 for 180hp vs $4000 for 140hp makes alot more more sense?

we need more info PLEASE!!!!

[Tamago]

So if i have an auto tranny i wouldn't have to notch the frame rail? Do all the stock electronics work with the current wiring as well? I mean $1000-2000 for 180hp vs $4000 for 140hp makes alot more more sense?

we need more info PLEASE!!!!

not sure you're gonna find a 2ZZ for $2000 complete with ECU.

also i'm pretty sure your stock auto transmission is not gonna like the 2ZZ very much

[KCALB SIRAY]

Finding a good deal on an engine is not as hard as one would think, but it takes some effort to look in the right places. I found mine, complete with ECU and tranny with only 900 miles on it for $1,100

[cdydjded]

So if i have an auto tranny i wouldn't have to notch the frame rail? Do all the stock electronics work with the current wiring as well? I mean $1000-2000 for 180hp vs $4000 for 140hp makes alot more more sense?

we need more info PLEASE!!!!

$1000-$2000 is a little short, a complete 2ZZ, motor, 6 spd trans, ecu, wiring harness ect will run $3000-$3500

[Thej3sta2]

this car is a perfect match for a k20 fit

ewwwwww hondaaaa :barf:

[RHDVIPbB]

Not sure of the room for a turbo, but there is always the STS rear mount turbo.

[Tamago]

Not sure of the room for a turbo, but there is always the STS rear mount turbo.

which is garbage IMO on small displacement engines

[Tamago]

here's the 2zz/yaris

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ISAtFT94i3k

[cdydjded]

here's the 2zz/yaris

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ISAtFT94i3k

Thanks Tamago, did you also see the xA video?

[ChinoCharles]

Hot damn.

[Tamago]

Thanks Tamago, did you also see the xA video?

i did, it appears they dont' have it finished yet :)

[Nexus1155]

Sans Transmission and here you go....

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/JDM-00-Celica-ZZT231-2ZZ-GE-Motor-Engine-Low-32k-Miles_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp3286Q2em20Q2el111 6QQitemZ250364642963QQptZMotorsQ5fCarQ5fTruckQ5fPa rtsQ5fAccessories

I meant a stock Auto tranny from the 2ZZ not the Yaris

[Tamago]

Sans Transmission and here you go....

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/JDM-00-Celica-ZZT231-2ZZ-GE-Motor-Engine-Low-32k-Miles_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp3286Q2em20Q2el111 6QQitemZ250364642963QQptZMotorsQ5fCarQ5fTruckQ5fPa rtsQ5fAccessories

I meant a stock Auto tranny from the 2ZZ not the Yaris

IIRC there never was an auto mated to the 2ZZ

[Thirty-Nine]

IIRC there never was an auto mated to the 2ZZ

The 2003 (and only the '03) Matrix XRS was available with an auto.

The 2000+ Celica GT-S was also available with an auto.

The 2005-2006 Corolla XRS was only available with the manual, though.

[cali yaris]

COOL BEANS

[thebarber]

the 2zz is crap with a 4speed auto....you need a close ratio 6 speed to take advantage of the powerband on an n/a 2zz....

ive raced an auto celica gt-s w/ my matrix....i pulled away from him like he was in park. i think a 5spd 1zz is faster than a 4AT 2zz

[cdydjded]

Not sure of the room for a turbo, but there is always the STS rear mount turbo.

You can relocate the battery & run a sidewinder manifold like this:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/K-Series-Sidewinder-Turbo-Manifold-Honda-RSX-Civic-K20_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ33742QQihZ007QQitem Z170232423448QQtcZphoto

[Nexus1155]

Its for the girlfriends car, she can drive stick, but as a DD she wants an auto.

[Tamago]

Its for the girlfriends car, she can drive stick, but as a DD she wants an auto.

better off SC'ing your yaris then

[Nexus1155]

better off SC'ing your yaris then


No Reasoning?

2k vs. 4k and being unique is quite a jump in price and uniquety

[ZING]

I WANT!

[Tamago]

No Reasoning?

2k vs. 4k and being unique is quite a jump in price and uniquety

you can't just buy the engine and put it in lolol

expect $5000 budget for this project.

edit: minimum $5000... more like $7000

[PHXDEMON]

Wiring is the biggest issue with the swap & not just anyone can do it

That's what I figured :frown: I'm assuming you have to pretty much redo the entire cars wiring harness.

[ChinoCharles]

Yeah, there is this common misconception on car forums that you confirm a swap works and you find the price of the engine and voila! Not so much... :laugh: If only!

[Kaotic Lazagna]

hehehe.

[thebarber]

Its for the girlfriends car, she can drive stick, but as a DD she wants an auto.

youre better off putting in a 1zzfe if she wants auto and youre horny for an engine swap

auto 2zz's are useless....and you still have to put 91 in it....

maybe youre not familiar w/ how the 2zzge operates - - but its 180hp at 7800rpm....

[PHXDEMON]

Noob question here. Is the bolt pattern on the bottom end of the block the same as the 1nz? Just wondering if I could keep the same 5sp tranny I have now and drop in an upgraded clutch. If this is the case and its possible do you guys think the horsepower would eat the transmission?

[whooppee777]

Finding a good deal on an engine is not as hard as one would think, but it takes some effort to look in the right places. I found mine, complete with ECU and tranny with only 900 miles on it for $1,100

ur actually doing that swap. "ur crazy lady, ur crazy but i like you"

if this car wasnt my DD and i had the funds this thing would have been swapped already

[KCALB SIRAY]

ur actually doing that swap. "ur crazy lady, ur crazy but i like you"

if this car wasnt my DD and i had the funds this thing would have been swapped already

PM sent

[Nexus1155]

Well people said you couldn't swap the turbos on my S4 for under $4500 for a complete kit, but im still well under $2000 and im going to be pushing 650hp, its just how you play things out that matter....

maybe youre not familiar w/ how the 2zzge operates - - but its 180hp at 7800rpm....

saying she doesn't drive hard??? :biggrin: :tongue: :wub: :evil:

[Tamago]

Noob question here. Is the bolt pattern on the bottom end of the block the same as the 1nz? Just wondering if I could keep the same 5sp tranny I have now and drop in an upgraded clutch. If this is the case and its possible do you guys think the horsepower would eat the transmission?

i've eaten a transmission at 155whp and 150 torque.

i'm not easy on it though.

[PHXDEMON]

i've eaten a transmission at 155whp and 150 torque.

i'm not easy on it though.

I'm not easy on mine either :laugh: :burnrubber: I guess I would have to upgrade to the 6 speed. I wonder if the shift linkage is the same :iono:

[Kaotic Lazagna]

I heard it bolts right up?????

[staypuft]

just put the fully built 2zz with a stroker kit, then engine swap it:thumbup:

http://store.monkeywrenchracing.com/index.php?cPath=170

then supercharge it

http://www.trial.co.jp/trial-usa/celica/zzt231sc.htm

now thats a super yaris right there

[eTiMaGo]

I doubt you could fit the supercharger in there without a bump in the hood, but that stroker kit should help make the driver's big smile get even bigger :laugh:

[Tamago]

I doubt you could fit the supercharger in there without a bump in the hood, but that stroker kit should help make the driver's big smile get even bigger :laugh:

bump in the hood, that's cake :)

actually, you guys have MUCH MORE ROOM under your hood than i do, due to EU pedestrian safety laws. i'm jealous :(

[YarisPR]

Yes its the white one from PR, I did not ask him about cost because it would not relate towhat it would cost here, he did all the mechanical work & an auto electrician did all the electrical work, as for hassles there are some like with any swap, I have all the details & will inform everyone soon

So you came to PR..... hope you liked it


Engine swapping and that type of inventions are normal here. Some really weird and ridiculous... V8 VW bugs, 1970 Lancer with Nissan Sylvia Turbo engine, ....
the list goes on, but hey who doesn't like a small car with a few ponies :biggrin:

[Vinsanity]

can this fiit the LB?

any response to that??? im wanna know toooo.. thanks

[Nexus1155]

Yes it will fit the LB.

Cdyd said it so it must be true... be the first here to do it go go go

[whooppee777]

Because i rock at finding awesome things...

http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d62/whooppee777/Yaris-2zz_1294454_530.jpg
http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d62/whooppee777/Yaris-2zz_1294453_530.jpg
http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d62/whooppee777/Yaris-2zz_1294441_530.jpg
http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d62/whooppee777/Yaris-2zz_1294445_530.jpg
http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d62/whooppee777/Yaris-2zz_1294437_530.jpg
http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d62/whooppee777/Yaris-2zz_1294446_530.jpg
http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d62/whooppee777/Yaris-2zz_1294436_530.jpg
http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d62/whooppee777/Yaris-2zz_1294442_530.jpg
http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d62/whooppee777/Yaris-2zz_1294412_530.jpg
http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d62/whooppee777/Yaris-2zz_1294411_530.jpg

[PETERPOOP]

Because i rock at finding awesome things...

No you don't. ;)

http://videos.streetfire.net/album/Yaris-2zz_1294411.htm

[dallas]

Good work guys, lets keep the information comming this is the best solution for developing decent HP figures, without taxing the stock engine.

[whooppee777]

No you don't. ;)

http://videos.streetfire.net/album/Yaris-2zz_1294411.htm

damn i was hoping no one would find that. at least i took the time to put up his pictures

[Marfulion]

So does anybody do these kind of engine swaps as a service or business? Or this pretty much a do it yourself only thing?? Cus I would love to have a freaking built 2zzge in my YA-RACE.

[Arkhangel]

Because i rock at finding awesome things...

http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d62/whooppee777/Yaris-2zz_1294454_530.jpg
http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d62/whooppee777/Yaris-2zz_1294453_530.jpg
http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d62/whooppee777/Yaris-2zz_1294441_530.jpg
http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d62/whooppee777/Yaris-2zz_1294445_530.jpg
http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d62/whooppee777/Yaris-2zz_1294437_530.jpg
http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d62/whooppee777/Yaris-2zz_1294446_530.jpg
http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d62/whooppee777/Yaris-2zz_1294436_530.jpg
http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d62/whooppee777/Yaris-2zz_1294442_530.jpg
http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d62/whooppee777/Yaris-2zz_1294412_530.jpg
http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d62/whooppee777/Yaris-2zz_1294411_530.jpg

we have a sayin Here in Puerto Rico
"Puerto Rico lo hace Mejor" = Puerto Rico Does it Better lol
This car is from Puerto Rico :headbang:

[botchilah]

Coming from PR, the land of so many revolutionary and super fast 1/4 mile speed demons, I'm not surprised anymore, w/c means loads of respect to the tuners and racers there ;)

The one good thing about a 1.8 liter engine making 180hp vs a forcefed 1.5 liter engine making the same power is reliability especially over the long run. I'd pay the premium for that. Of course the 1.8 liter engine opens up loads more potential for more power ;)

If and when someone comes up with the detailed instructions for the wiring and force-fitting the 2ZZ engine into the Yaris engine bay, I'll be drooling behind my laptop :)

I hope the guys from PR do share their "secrets" very soon :)

[YarisPR]

Coming from PR, the land of so many revolutionary and super fast 1/4 mile speed demons, I'm not surprised anymore, w/c means loads of respect to the tuners and racers there ;)

The one good thing about a 1.8 liter engine making 180hp vs a forcefed 1.5 liter engine making the same power is reliability especially over the long run. I'd pay the premium for that. Of course the 1.8 liter engine opens up loads more potential for more power ;)

If and when someone comes up with the detailed instructions for the wiring and force-fitting the 2ZZ engine into the Yaris engine bay, I'll be drooling behind my laptop :)

I hope the guys from PR do share their "secrets" very soon :)

Thanks for the props of ours cars here (in P.R.). These might sound funny cause we are a little island (135x23 miles) but I haven't been able to locate this guy!!!! See the car beside the internet nor find info about who did the job. There's also a Lb that has been around for more than a 1.5 year, but same results....

Most of these jobs are done in local workshops or at home. So tracking the people who did the jobs is difficult.

But'll keep trying

[RagnaCaT]

PR FTW!

[whooppee777]

little island (135x23 miles) but I haven't been able to locate this guy!!!!

are you kidding me?!?!?!?!

with such a small area to search i would drive up and down every street and dirt road with a bull horn hanging out the window yelling "SOMEONE IS STEALING YOUR WHITE YARIS SEDAN!"

most likely if u yell "HEY GUY WITH THE ENGINE SWAPPED YARIS I'M LOOKING FOR YOU!"

wont persuade him to come out of hiding.

[YarisPR]

are you kidding me?!?!?!?!

with such a small area to search i would drive up and down every street and dirt road with a bull horn hanging out the window yelling "SOMEONE IS STEALING YOUR WHITE YARIS SEDAN!"

most likely if u yell "HEY GUY WITH THE ENGINE SWAPPED YARIS I'M LOOKING FOR YOU!"

wont persuade him to come out of hiding.


LOL I'll like to see you try that :bellyroll: This might be some useful Info:

-Island (135x23miles o is it 123 x35.. know I don't remember LOL)
-Population: 4 million
-People to Cars Ratio (registered/driving on streets): 0.8 car per person (chek the population :biggrin:)
-Yaris: Best selled car for to years in a row..... (Toyota dealers have reduced if not stop to bring Scion, Corollas..)
-Registerd Steets: One of the Worlds most streets per square mile (if not #1). And dirt roads (ain't made by the goverment) so there ain't that many, but the one that do exist are to get to some neat beaches (that not too many people know about) Private farms, made for ATV, 4x4, etc not for daily driving, not a good place to take a yaris :biggrin:

and driving from one side of the island to the other might take you 3 hours if not more.

LOL That should be a nice Mission, but I'll keep on searching for the guy.

[06silveryaris]

100 by 35 is the correct size, the pictures from the track look like carolina which is close to San Juan .

[Arkhangel]

theres a couple of pics that look like Carolina Speedway but theres one with bridge crossing over ther start line that doesnt look like Carolina nor the one in Ponce, But i havent been to the one in Ponce in like 2 years and only recently went to the one in Carolina a couple of weeks ago


Puerto Rico Represent!!

[cdydjded]

Thanks for the props of ours cars here (in P.R.). These might sound funny cause we are a little island (135x23 miles) but I haven't been able to locate this guy!!!! See the car beside the internet nor find info about who did the job. There's also a Lb that has been around for more than a 1.5 year, but same results....

Most of these jobs are done in local workshops or at home. So tracking the people who did the jobs is difficult.

But'll keep trying

I can get in touch with him, where in PR are you?

[YarisPR]

I can get in touch with him, where in PR are you?

Mayaguez, but I wouldn't mind driving.

[06silveryaris]

theres a couple of pics that look like Carolina Speedway but theres one with bridge crossing over ther start line that doesnt look like Carolina nor the one in Ponce, But i havent been to the one in Ponce in like 2 years and only recently went to the one in Carolina a couple of weeks ago


Puerto Rico Represent!!

could aslo be salinas, if the end of the 1/4 mile has a Nimay Suzuki sign it is salinas speedway

[toyojomo]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MOoEu-pn3YY&NR=1

[eTiMaGo]

that Cobalt didn't stand a chance :laugh:

[Treyz]

Sedans have a bit more room in the engine bay than the hatches. a 2ZZ can be swapped in, but a turbo application might be hard for us liftback owners due to spacing. I'd love to do this though.

[toyojomo]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rHQYQYrHt2A&feature=related

The same car runing slicks in salinas speedway pr 13.1

[PHXDEMON]

God i want this motor in my car :drool:

[SiLvErInE]

I can't wait to swap my engine ,,,, I'm geeting one with the transmission in dubai ...

it's close to me cause I'm in KSA, so there is no problem for me to go there ^_^

Oh yeah and I don't care if the turbo will not fit cause 180Hp is more than enough .
cause if you compare it with the stock engine it will only give you 160hp max with the turbo installed........

keep u posted.....................

[bzinn 1]

Well now the hunt is on to find wrecked cars with complete engines and take them and the entire computer system out and make some really scary fast Yarii mutants.....

This is kinda like what Foth did with M2 Motors and the xD withthe MR2 turbo motor and drive trane in it.....it is a beast. and they did not have to do as much box work to the frame work to get it to fit as I thought they would.

[dwardu]

hi, does a 2zz fit on a 99 yaris ? i'm about to buy a half cut celout ica but i'm still not 100% sure about the swap.

[The Spectacle]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rHQYQYrHt2A&feature=related

The same car runing slicks in salinas speedway pr 13.1

Something is not right. 92mph does not equal a 13.1 et. ESPECIALLY on a fwd application. Just isn't possible.

What was the 60ft? 1.0 lol

[ChinoCharles]

No, no it doesn't. That's what, 20 MPH slow? LOL

[Mouse]

He would have to hit at least 115mph....compare the times of other FWD cars here....www.dragtimes.com

[Sabretooth]

hi, does a 2zz fit on a 99 yaris ? i'm about to buy a half cut celout ica but i'm still not 100% sure about the swap.

There has been pics from overseas (non-US photos) of Older gen Yaris/Vitz swapped with the 2zz, although it was a TIGHT fit. All the pics were I believe from Thailand or Indonesia, unsure tho.

So the photographic side is out there, but no videos as of yet.

[gwasabi]

Japan has been doing this for years already....

[Sabretooth]

There has been pics from overseas (non-US photos) of Older gen Yaris/Vitz swapped with the 2zz, although it was a TIGHT fit. All the pics were I believe from Thailand or Indonesia, unsure tho.

So the photographic side is out there, but no videos as of yet.



Decided to post a pic I found online of the exact thing I was talking about to show....

http://www.yaris-club.com/gallery/No.1/Yaris%20074.jpeg

[scape]

Decided to post a pic I found online of the exact thing I was talking about to show....

http://www.yaris-club.com/gallery/No.1/Yaris%20074.jpeg

wow that's snug

[marcus]

what about the shifter box does it need to be change to have the 6 speed gear box.

[PHXDEMON]

Do want.

[AdeJong 03]

any updates on this?

pricing on real labor?

[06silveryaris]

hi, does a 2zz fit on a 99 yaris ? i'm about to buy a half cut celout ica but i'm still not 100% sure about the swap.


Yeah it fit. I have seen it here in echos and tercels

[ddongbap]

It fits as a direct drop in? Or it fits with a huge hammer and some bravery?

[YarisPR]

It fits as a direct drop in? Or it fits with a huge hammer and some bravery?

IDK how it fits but here In PR we've manage to fit that engine in everything

2zz Yaris
2zz Scion xA
2zz Scion xB the new model
2zz Echo
2zz Tercel
2zz 1998 Corolla

we even have a few 2AZ-FE Tercel (Scion Tc Engine)

So u get the idea.... IT CAN BE DONE! :biggrin: :laugh: :drinking:

[ddongbap]

I just wanted to see if it'll require an engine bay make over. If so, I was just thinking of doing that dual vvt-i engine in the Corolla here.

[AdeJong 03]

its confirmed at this point itll fit but there is no official write up on how to do it.

Does anyone know? I may have sourced a swap. its not for sure but im really thinking about this

[kngrsll]

its confirmed at this point itll fit but there is no official write up on how to do it.

Does anyone know? I may have sourced a swap. its not for sure but im really thinking about this

just do it... and tell us how

[Bluevitz-rs]

I Know for fitment into the Echo you need to clearance the both frame rails. The pulley side is the worst because most of the pulley and belts need to go through the frame. Two of the motor mount are a direct bolt up on the transmission and I'm not 100% on the engine side but I know it pretty close.. normally the 2ZZ uses 4 mounts not 3 to contain the power. So I think you'd want the TRD inserts.

So it's not really THAT much work if you know how to use a MIG welder.

[YarisPR]

If u guys knew spanish I might help by giving the phone number of the guys who do it, but I don't think their english is too god eitheir way :confused:

[Vb2ner]

I would hate to work on that. Good luck
fitting all the charge pipes

[why?]

i think the best way is to get everything then go to puerto rico and hook up with those crazy swapsters. They must have more mechanical skills down there.

[jouna]

do you know why we do things like that in pr. because money talks over here boy!!

[Yaris-2ZZ-GE]

Hi Chaps, I have a Yaris 2007 model fitted with a 2ZZGE motor and 6 speed box, currently its out of the car though.

I would be happy to answer any questions provide photos of the installation as it goes back together again, its been taken out for an engine overhaul as it was running like a bag of bolts!.

The conversion was not done perfectly first time round by others, so I've been asked to sort it out and do it the right way this time its been my daily ride for about 5/6 months now through work, usually i work on more exotic sports cars like radicals, ktm's, ariel atoms etc...it mostly suffered mapping problems using a apexi FC commander unit, but I believe the engine timing was out also when inspecting it as it came apart, so i think ill see much better results when its all back together again with fresh parts and a re-map/engine set up correctly.watch this space... i think the engine though has quite good potential to be a real goer, it certainly rev's!

if enough interest ill create a webpage for images to be seen up there...and more info as i go along, i might need some advise also as i go along, im no expert on the toyota's as its my first 2zzge engine ive taken apart...

id personally love to fit a AWD GT4 setup in this car, or go RWD only with some forced induction running around 400/500hp maybe more, but for now, ill just get it running with basically what's there, for now...

[thebarber]

i would be interested in pics of the 2zz in your yaris...with explanations of how you shoe-horned it in the engine bay

[Torito The Nazi]

Hey guys im new to this site but hello from Puerto Rico... I myself did have a hyundai accent with a 1.8 litter turbo mod. from a hyundai tiburon.... love the sound of the turbo.. It was running stock engine internals at 20 psi 300 hp. Ok the thing is we here made all.. OK the person that makes all the mod on the firewalls an other things was making a toyota echo 2zz he made it. i got the phone number and he is from caguas puerto rico.. By the way the white yaris i think he is from caguas, i heard it from a friend of mine. hey guys i got lot of respect for that engine but in reliability i say its no good all of my friends have broke down theyre 2zz and my hyundai isstill running in mayaguez by the way he just painted the car black.......

SO guys i will be very happy to help u and i woulb be very happy to u guys help me. I want to do smaller mod to the yaris 1.5 not too much just light mods i dont want any higher mods in that car.. I just want to know what trottle i can put in what light mods without turning on the check.. PLease guys help me with that

[xen555]

Hey guys im new to this site but hello from Puerto Rico... I myself did have a hyundai accent with a 1.8 litter turbo mod. from a hyundai tiburon.... love the sound of the turbo.. It was running stock engine internals at 20 psi 300 hp. Ok the thing is we here made all.. OK the person that makes all the mod on the firewalls an other things was making a toyota echo 2zz he made it. i got the phone number and he is from caguas puerto rico.. By the way the white yaris i think he is from caguas, i heard it from a friend of mine. hey guys i got lot of respect for that engine but in reliability i say its no good all of my friends have broke down theyre 2zz and my hyundai isstill running in mayaguez by the way he just painted the car black.......

SO guys i will be very happy to help u and i woulb be very happy to u guys help me. I want to do smaller mod to the yaris 1.5 not too much just light mods i dont want any higher mods in that car.. I just want to know what trottle i can put in what light mods without turning on the check.. PLease guys help me with that

buscate el throttle de corolla 2005 le cae muy bien y no prende la luz... lo unico que tenes que jugar un poco con el tornillo porque queda medio acelerado... un tuberia header y a divertirse... yo lo tengo asi y la verdad que la diferencia es un monton... ahora estoy por ponerle unos injecxtores de corolla que consegui los 4 por 36 dolares en ebay asi que un weekend de estos se los monto...

[fnkngrv]

So we have a lot of speculation and seems like some great basic info, but nothing truly solid whether or not this is even worth it. To me it would not make sense to do this swap without upgrading the suspension to a 5 bolt and LSD or am I wrong on that one? You have to deal with the additional weight as well as the pull off the line without spinning as badly as some of the videos depict. Also the problem with the Monkey Wrench Racing company is that they REQUIRE a core swap per email communication with them that I have had and they have absolutely zero use for our 1nz motor per another email from them. The only one that they informed me they would be willing to sell me without a core is the Toyota New OEM 2ZZ Engine (Longblock)-Lotus Elise Exige 2-Eleven which is running a cool $7,120.25 plus shipping. I have verified that shipping to northern Maine would be as follows so your mileage for shipping will vary:

UPS Ground $181.04
UPS 3 Day Select $377.42

So effectively I for example would be looking at roughly 7400k which gets you this:

This brand new engine comes to you complete with many more auxiliary parts than our built race engines. For a simple and quick install the engine even includes:
# Water pump with pulley
# Crankshaft pulley
# Crank and cam sensors
# VVT and VVL Solenoids and filters
# OEM oil pan
# Head oil drain tube
# Engine mount
# Iridium spark plugs
# Lift hooks


This engine is sold for street/race applications and some of you are getting pretty good at blowing up good stock engines so there is no formal warranty on this engine. It is hot tested and sealed from the Toyota factory so we do guarantee initial function and condition. As with all 2ZZ engines, if you plan to run it at the track we strongly recommend oil pan and oil pump upgrades at a minimum.


So that is all you get is what they have in the package. Not saying that it isn't a lot of stuff, but you still need to get everything else like a tranny, Engine Management, etc. Now the biggest plus of this of course is that this isn't the 180bhp motor from the "regular" cars, it is for the Elise/Exige which means it is supposed to have better internals to be able to handle the S/C which bumps it from the 180 you would 'normally" see to 218 roughly if you were so inclined to try and get that mounted up. The biggest issues with the stock 2zz is the weak valves which I have not been able to verify through my research is addressed in the 2zz model for the Lotus cars...


food for thought...it appears that if you went with the fresh from the factory motor you are looking at somewhere in the 12-15k range which puts you into a total investment without any other mods to you Yaris to 28-32k. You could of course go the used route and get everything for cheaper, but since someone mentioned the MWR option I figured that I would clarify things with them. A lot of people would argue that is a heap ton of money for this car when you can spend that much coin and get a hell of a lot more car for your dollar...would be it as fun? Who knows...I am looking into the 2zz myself heavily, but I am curious which route would make more sense in the long run...a 2zz swap or boring the 1.5 to 1.6, upgrading internals, and going turbo. :iono:

[Nexus1155]

Yeah I'd pay 7k for an engine.... a bored out LS2 motor. I know they have to make money somewhere and thats one of the prime areas. I am sure they get salveaged cars they pay $1200 all day to get and take the engine out and part out the rest of the car. It's good money making though :drool:

[Toyo Chris]

If u guys knew spanish I might help by giving the phone number of the guys who do it, but I don't think their english is too god eitheir way :confused:

I could translate it for them. :rolleyes:

[thebarber]

you'll still need to cut/box the frame rails and add a front bar for the front engine mount

a friend of mine in town has a built, stroked 2zz in his matrix xrs which is greddy supercharged....iirc he's parting it out....check out evilthorne on matrixowners.com

[Bluevitz-rs]

You don't NEED the front engine mount, well on the Echo anyway. Because the transmission has the previsions for the same mount on the front-side in the same spot. same with the rear one.

[ROCKLAND TOYOTA]

i have a 2zz block that ive decided to get rid of. LOCAL MONEY talks......

[TrashCan Monster]

man, this swap would be mean!