1.8 TS and 1.5 yaris power&torque diagrams

[shtou]

i attach the diagrams of these 2 engine
i think for best performance is need to change the gear at 6000rpm.
for fuel economy i think the optimal change is at 3500rpm.
is correct?

[thebarber]

run 'em to redline!

you want to stay in the power on the next gear....

but those piddly dynos are junk

in all seriousness....i find the 1nzfe noticeably runs out of steam past 6000 or so w/o mods. with just an intake i find it makes power to redline....

but for economy (and assuming youre not WOT) shift around 3000 or so

[CASTREX]

^^

Agree, for the fastest possible acceleration you need to take it to 6,400 rpm

Whatch out for the rev limiter at around 6,600rpm. If you hit it the car will jerk out and there goes your pass.


And if you are concern about the Max fuel efficiency, we have a hole section about it on the forum. Is full of usefull tips.

The FE is not just shifting at 3,500rpm.., buch of things to concider if you want to achive Toyota's advertized consumption figures.

[Tamago]

does your DBW cut out at redline as awfully as the tC's do?

cable throttle FTW :D

[CASTREX]

Yeap.... it takes a 1/100 sec for you to hit the rev limiter :thumbdown:

Red ine is at 6,400 and you hit the rev limiter just passing 6,500rpm

[Yaris Palme]

Yeap.... it takes a 1/100 sec for you to hit the rev limiter :thumbdown:

Red ine is at 6,400 and you hit the rev limiter just passing 6,500rpm

the limiter came at 6555. tested on dyno.

[CASTREX]

So it's just a 150 rpm window from red line to the limiter...

It will be nice if there was an easy way to increase the rev limiter... perhaps to 6,800rmp

With bolt ons we could really use that extra band legnth.

[Tamago]

**************POP******************* goes the connecting rod..

i'll take pix tomorrow to show what happens when you over rev a stock-rod 1NZFE

[Clode]

mhmhh

known a decrease of torque between 2000 and 3000


probably be solved with Camcon (http://www.powerenterpriseusa.net/products/electric/camcon/camcon.htm)

[Clode]

wowow

fot 1.8

http://www.power-enterprise.co.jp/electronic/data_wish.html

[CASTREX]

mhmhh

known a decrease of torque between 2000 and 3000


probably be solved with Camcon (http://www.powerenterpriseusa.net/products/electric/camcon/camcon.htm)

There is no plug and play camcon app for the Yaris TS...:frown:

wowow

fot 1.8

http://www.power-enterprise.co.jp/electronic/data_wish.html

This info is from a different engine. The 1ZZ (Older Corolla engine)

[CASTREX]

**************POP******************* goes the connecting rod..

i'll take pix tomorrow to show what happens when you over rev a stock-rod 1NZFE

:rolleyes:

mmmm I'm the kind of person that only learns first hand... :biggrin:

Plus a broken rod will provide you with a nice story to tell your friends.. :bellyroll:

J/K

Yeap this engine would not take over reving for much time. But it should hold some extra 400 rpm over a couple of 1/4 mile passes.

We will have to find out.... :burnrubber:

[Clode]

[QUOTE=CASTREX;231346]There is no plug and play camcon app for the Yaris TS...:frown:

are you sure?

call in Japan:wink:

[CASTREX]

[QUOTE=CASTREX;231346]There is no plug and play camcon app for the Yaris TS...:frown:

are you sure?

call in Japan:wink:

The Vits RS in Japan does not come with the 2ZR engine. It still has the 1.5 1nz

I believe only the IST and some other less popular models have this engine over there and they are not a s much of a tuner car as the vitz.

The POwer Entreprises manuals don't list up anything for the 2ZR-FE engine

I will like to be proved wrong tough

[FEINT]

The Vits RS in Japan does not come with the 2ZR engine. It still has the 1.5 1nz

I believe only the IST and some other less popular models have this engine over there and they are not a s much of a tuner car as the vitz.

The POwer Entreprises manuals don't list up anything for the 2ZR-FE engine

I will like to be proved wrong tough

Its a real shame we don't get the Vitz 1.8 here, we only get the Vitz RS 1.5L. We don't get the IST in Manual though.

Regarding the camcon, I don' think there is one yet for the 2ZR. Could be wrong though.

http://www.powerenterpriseusa.net/products/electric/camcon/camcon.htm

[Tamago]

Yeap this engine would not take over reving for much time. But it should hold some extra 400 rpm over a couple of 1/4 mile passes.

We will have to find out.... :burnrubber:

news flash...

the 1NZFE is over 10 years old.. ask some echo, xa, xb owners.

[Arkhangel]

**************POP******************* goes the connecting rod..

i'll take pix tomorrow to show what happens when you over rev a stock-rod 1NZFE

Ever take those pics??

[Tamago]

Ever take those pics??

http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e239/fatherdutami/broken%20egg/PIC_1036.jpg
http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e239/fatherdutami/broken%20egg/PIC_1065.jpg
http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e239/fatherdutami/broken%20egg/broken23.jpg
http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e239/fatherdutami/broken%20egg/broken24.jpg

[Arkhangel]

:cry::brokenheart::eek::frown:

[CASTREX]

news flash...

the 1NZFE is over 10 years old.. ask some echo, xa, xb owners.


News Flash!!! who is talking about the 1NZ engine???



The 2ZR it's been out for less than 2 years.... It could be as fragile as the 1NZ, but we don't really know.
No one has reported a Con Rod failure on any forum so far...

There is this guy who was drag racing in a boosted 2ZR. Ended up killing the engine after a few months but due to a lean condition @14 psi. But the rods held up with the abuse.

[PARIS]

News Flash!!! who is talking about the 1NZ engine???



The 2ZR it's been out for less than 2 years.... It could be as fragile as the 1NZ, but we don't really know.
No one has reported a Con Rod failure on any forum so far...

There is this guy who was drag racing in a boosted 2ZR. Ended up killing the engine after a few months but due to a lean condition @14 psi. But the rods held up with the abuse.

I have heard that all the new DUAL VVT-i have stronger blocks that the previous generation engines. The 1NR FE is less fragile than the 2NZ FE. The 2ZR FE is less fragile than the 1ZZ FE!
Anyway, what exactly did happen to that boosted 2ZR FE?

[anubisx99]

has anyone tried to get a dual VVTI 1.8L and swap engines here in the US for the stock 1NR-FE? if so...what kind of performance did you get? what else do you have to change (ECU, CAMS, etc)? and most important what was the $ ballpark after everything is running smoothly?

[CASTREX]

No one has done it.

IMHO is not worth it... yet. Perhaps with some more development on the 1.8 platform it could become a good choice for a swap in the future.

Perfomance figures? Same performace as any Yaris TS. Nothing impresive, hence why I say not worth it yet.

This should be a straight forward swap. But a little problem will have to be sorted. Where do you find a 1.8 engine? For cheap at least...

You'll need a wrecked scion xD to pull the engine with ECU and harness.

[jinxor]

:eek::eek:
damn

[Benggolf2]

Hmm, perhaps going the supercharger route would be more cost productive. :evil:

[victorcr]

que feo las fotos le dieron duros al yaris ts