WTF BBQ no 5pd option for 5 door s?

[kustom play]

so i was putzing around at toyota while the g/f gets her tc serviced. I had the yaris since we were going to drop it off but it was only going to take an hour so we hung around

anyway i was talking with the dealer and they offered to buy my yaris for what i paid for it last year and get me in a new yaris S

so i was like ORLY?

so i tell them i want a 5 door S in polar white

cant find one in 5 speed.... how odd

come to find out they only offer it in the 3 door

kinda bummed me out a bit

so i started looking at the x-runner

hotness

but anyway anybody else bothered by this?

[dvlnblkdrs]

we all knew this when it was released. toyota didnt see enough of a market for manuals in the 5door...

[1NZYaris1]

That applies to the whole wide world too , if i am not mistaken.
sucks but i can live with it :laugh:

[IllusionX]

That applies to the whole wide world too , if i am not mistaken.
sucks but i can live with it :laugh:

5 speed 5 doors yaris is likely to be available world wide, except in the states.

at least, it is available in Canada as a 5 door RS.

[Kal-El]

Doesn't make much sense to me. How is it that sedan and 3-door buyers want MT's but somehow 5 door LB buyers wouldn't? Come on Toyota... :confused:
Heck, if they build them in other markets anyway, how difficult is it to ship some to the US?

Certainly, in Europe/Asia they are readily available. Every car overseas is available with a stick. In fact, they think automatics are for lazy people.

I guess we just have to appreciate that Toyota brought the 5-door over here at all!

[kustom play]

i just cant see the "sport package" coming in just a auto

tisk tisk

[dvlnblkdrs]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kogWLPJII1M

she agrees :biggrin: :laughabove:

[ddongbap]

Just because you guys don't see the reason behind it, doesn't mean there isn't one.

[Phaeton]

Sadly it seems there are more people that want an automatic than a manual these days.
I was talking to my neighbor the other day about the same subject, he's 42 and never driven a manual.

[dvlnblkdrs]

id love to learn manual, but idk anyone who will teach me(and no i wont just buy a manual and learn myself...)

[SailDesign]

... he's 42 and never driven a manual.

That's just sad. Only one of my 4 kids is auto-only.

[Havana]

Not offering a M/T in the 5 door almost cost Toyota a sale in my case. Ultimately, I compromised on what I wanted and went with the 3 door. I just liked the Yaris so much better than the competition but still feel a bit shafted by not having the same transmission choices as the Canadian market.

[ddongbap]

Not offering a M/T in the 5 door almost cost Toyota a sale in my case. Ultimately, I compromised on what I wanted and went with the 3 door. I just liked the Yaris so much better than the competition but still feel a bit shafted by not having the same transmission choices as the Canadian market.

Can you absolutely prove that?

[MadMax]

Unfortunately, when it comes time to teach my kids to drive, I don't think we'll have a manual transmission to teach them on. My Yaris is an auto, as is my Jeep, and of course the wife's Odyssey is as well. So, unless we buy them their own car (or, God forbid, they buy their own like I had to!), they will be learning to drive an auto before they learn to drive a stick. That may not be a bad way to approach it, but they gotta know how to drive a stick!

Cheers! M2

[Havana]

Can you absolutely prove that?

I think so.

Check out the specs on Toyota's Canadian website.

http://www.toyota.ca/cgi-bin/WebObjects/WWW.woa/11/wo/Home.Vehicles.Go.YarisHatchback-n22SQDLuDSuddwpkSOCI8M/11.15?v124060e%2ehtml

5 door LE and RS are offered with a 5 speed M/T.

[Thirty-Nine]

Yes, it bothers me, too.

I've asked Toyota about it, and they essentially said their market research showed there wouldn't be enough buyers to make it worth their while. I know I would've bought one if I had the option.

When I asked the Regional Toyota Rep about this she suggested I look at the xD.

[ddongbap]

I think so.

Check out the specs on Toyota's Canadian website.

http://www.toyota.ca/cgi-bin/WebObjects/WWW.woa/11/wo/Home.Vehicles.Go.YarisHatchback-n22SQDLuDSuddwpkSOCI8M/11.15?v124060e%2ehtml

5 door LE and RS are offered with a 5 speed M/T.

Sorry, I thought you had typed something else.

[firemachine69]

id love to learn manual, but idk anyone who will teach me(and no i wont just buy a manual and learn myself...)

You just want to play with the stick, don't you? :biggrin:

[kustom play]

they lost a sale in my case

i was all about getting the 5 door S

i cant see trading in my 3 door for another 3 door with some body mods

ohh well

maybe we'll get lucky in 10

thats funny about the XD comment, they said the same thing to me about an XD

i was like hell no, those things look ugly

the yaris has the ability to hit the hot hatch category

the XD looks like it belongs in the zoo

we own 4 cars none of which are auto

just cant do automatic

[AlexNet0]

dont blame u for wanting the standard tranny, i wont buy anything else

[jambo101]

This review of a 2009 seems to indicate a 5sp manual tranny
http://www.auto123.com/en/toyota/yaris-hatchback/2009/specification/rs-5-door?carid=1096102605&tab=equipment

[Franck_Qc]

In Canada we have 5 doors and 5 speed manual, I have one. Juste in the USA you don't have








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[twowheels]

The 5 door is what made me start looking at the Yaris again. I stopped in the pouring rain to take another look. When I found out it was auto-only I almost dropped the Yaris from my consideration until we finally decided that we could get by with the three door. So far we haven't missed the extra doors (and my kids like it for some reason), but I definitely would have preferred five. Of course their marketing people will just add my purchase to the column for people who obviously prefer three door models... just like they decided for some stupid reason that us Californians don't want cruise control even though we live in a state with thousands of miles of barren highways.

[PETERPOOP]

I was talking to my neighbor the other day about the same subject, he's 42 and never driven a manual.

he is not a man.

[kustom play]

i think you can get the 5 door in stick

not just the S

dont quote me on that though

[Tamago]

we all knew this when it was released. toyota didnt see enough of a market for manuals in the 5door...

xD>yaris 5d :laugh:

[Havana]

Two different dealers tried to push the XD on me when I expressed my disgust over the lack of a M/T in the 5 door Yaris. They jumped into an immediate song and dance about how the XD is built on the same platform, ect. It almost seemed well rehearsed or preprogrammed. I truly think that's what is behind it all. I'm not buying the whole market research smoke screen. Toyota is simply trying to protect the Scion brand by limiting the Yaris offerings. Scion offers two 5 doors with M/T's (XB & XD). Yaris at first offered only a 3 door LB and 4 door sedan which didn't conflict with Scion's offerings. Scion had already brought to market the asthetically challenged and uninspiring XD 5 door. Sales were sluggish and the public reception is not what they expected. Meanwhile, the Honda Fit proves to be a sales success as does the Nissan Versa 5 door. Toyota realizes they need to get in on the 5 door compact game so they bring the 5 door Yaris in but deliberately without a M/T option in a vain effort to promote the lackluster XD as the "enthusiast" or "youth" 5 door option. Toyota's alleged "market research" claims there's just no interest in a 5 door with a M/T in the US. Honda, Nissan, Kia, and Suzuki's sales of 5 door M/T's suggest otherwise. If the complaints registered on this forum are respresentative of the buyers' wants, I'd say there is a demand for it. Where exactly did they do their "market research?" I'm guessing at a Scion board or dealers meeting. The market research excuse is often just good ole fashioned BS for customer manipulation. "Market research has indicated that there's no demand for what you're asking for, so you'd better just buy what we already offer." The very fact that you're asking for it proves there's a degree of demand.

[GrayFox]

Manual all the way. PLus they are cheaper too!!

[kustom play]

Two different dealers tried to push the XD on me when I expressed my disgust over the lack of a M/T in the 5 door Yaris. They jumped into an immediate song and dance about how the XD is built on the same platform, ect. It almost seemed well rehearsed or preprogrammed. I truly think that's what is behind it all. I'm not buying the whole market research smoke screen. Toyota is simply trying to protect the Scion brand by limiting the Yaris offerings. Scion offers two 5 doors with M/T's (XB & XD). Yaris at first offered only a 3 door LB and 4 door sedan which didn't conflict with Scion's offerings. Scion had already brought to market the asthetically challenged and uninspiring XD 5 door. Sales were sluggish and the public reception is not what they expected. Meanwhile, the Honda Fit proves to be a sales success as does the Nissan Versa 5 door. Toyota realizes they need to get in on the 5 door compact game so they bring the 5 door Yaris in but deliberately without a M/T option in a vain effort to promote the lackluster XD as the "enthusiast" or "youth" 5 door option. Toyota's alleged "market research" claims there's just no interest in a 5 door with a M/T in the US. Honda, Nissan, Kia, and Suzuki's sales of 5 door M/T's suggest otherwise. If the complaints registered on this forum are respresentative of the buyers' wants, I'd say there is a demand for it. Where exactly did they do their "market research?" I'm guessing at a Scion board or dealers meeting. The market research excuse is often just good ole fashioned BS for customer manipulation. "Market research has indicated that there's no demand for what you're asking for, so you'd better just buy what we already offer." The very fact that you're asking for it proves there's a degree of demand.

I would agree

the first thing they said was how about and XD or XB?

they had rows upon rows of XD and XB's but only about 4-6 yari on the lot

i read something that scion sales were way down due to poor marketing

they dropped the bomb hardcore on the new XB design and openly admitted that

The XD has not sold as projected, and i know a ton of scion owners were mad that they are reusing special edition RS colors over and over again.

They put out this ridiculous concept car the flops hardcore

when scion came out on the market the 1st gen XA and XB were awesome

totally different option! now its like they lost there way

i was really hoping they would bring the open deck Bb over or the new gen Bb but we get this monstrosity car and driver dubbed the "kids mini van"

it grinds my gears about the 5 door

its kinda like toyota telling you go but a fit if you want 5 spd

[BlackMan_Ink]

I hate that all the manual drivers are going away. More and more I run into drivers who are either surprised that I can drive stick, or wishes they could. I didn't like the 3dr Hatch it was too small, I stopped by Toyota to check out the 5dr. I wasn't floored, but I could see the potential, then they said no manual and I thought what a shame. I looked at the xD, but the dealer couldn't answer simple comparison questions like other 5drs that they considered their biggest competitors and how they thought their car outperformed them. The guy showed me a bunch of trick options and I had to bring up the engine, body weight, and suspension. I felt like they were trying to pull the wool over my eyes.

[Split]

xD has the 1.8L too. Like the Yaris TS. If i were in the states, i'd probably just get the xD.

[Tamago]

i read something that scion sales were way down due to poor marketing


so basically you're saying you wouldn't buy an xD because toyota didn't market it properly?

does this make it any LESS of a contender (dominator) of the 5door yaris?

no.

[kustom play]

no where did i say that

slow down and try reading

i wouldnt buy the XD because its ugly not because of marketing as stated in previous posts

[Tamago]

no where did i say that

slow down and try reading

i wouldnt buy the XD because its ugly not because of marketing as stated in previous posts

so you'd pay MORE for LESS by buying a 5door yaris?

[kustom play]

i would pay for what i like and since i do not like the XD then i would get the yaris

do you own an XD or something since your practically humping them

whats the point of your posts anyway?

do you just want attention or something?

or just looking to start more drama?

the thread is about no 5spd for 5 door S

not about how cool the XD is compared to the yaris

i swear to god you fill this forum with such useless crap and drama

go bug some other thread, im looking for peoples comments on yaris since you know last time i checked this is yarisworld now tamagolovesthexd.com

[Tamago]

i would pay for what i like and since i do not like the XD then i would get the yaris

do you own an XD or something since your practically humping them

whats the point of your posts anyway?

do you just want attention or something?

or just looking to start more drama?

the thread is about no 5spd for 5 door S

not about how cool the XD is compared to the yaris

i swear to god you fill this forum with such useless crap and drama

go bug some other thread, im looking for peoples comments on yaris since you know last time i checked this is yarisworld now tamagolovesthexd.com



actually.. www.this is the internet.com

but hey i only pointed out that if you're complaining that the 5door yaris only comes in Auto, then maybe you should look at an xD.

and no, i don't nor will i ever own an xD.