$1000 on the floor

[Tamago]

http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e239/fatherdutami/complete.jpg

[ka0sx]

is that going to be modified and go in your car?

[Nexus1155]

this is what was in his car...

[Morgan]

sad panda :(

[largeorangefont]

Whats the problem? Or do you have it out to make a jig?

[Tamago]

going n/a for a bit til i can get my swap straightened out :)

[cali yaris]

boo -- drive her til she blows

but seriously, what's in store for your project?

[Tamago]

boo -- drive her til she blows

but seriously, what's in store for your project?

i unfortunately don't shit money.. :(

rwd and real power (torque)

[cali yaris]

RWD? holy crap :bow:

[Tamago]

RWD? holy crap :bow:

i figure if a yaris can do it, so can it!

[Marfulion]

i figure if a yaris can do it, so can it!

RWD and a built 2zzge in the hood and BAM!!! lol, I can dream it at least. well the 2zzge swap has already been done, but i havent heard of a RWD yaris yet, are there any out there?

[Tamago]

RWD and a built 2zzge in the hood and BAM!!! lol, I can dream it at least. well the 2zzge swap has already been done, but i havent heard of a RWD yaris yet, are there any out there?

yes, the Drift yaris.. it's here on YW. not sure of its progress though.

and the 2zz is overrated. my 1nz made more torque and almost more hp on 9psi of boost.

[silver_echo]

you selling the old setup?

[Tamago]

you selling the old setup?

sure

but no one will buy it. it's not exactly bolt-on. you'll have to make serious chop-chop of your wiper tray (xA) to make it work. not sure if it'll bolt up to a yaris without trimming the wiper tray.

[silver_echo]

<---- not yaris... 01 echo

[Tamago]

<---- not yaris... 01 echo

if you want to buy the manifold, uppipe, turbo, downpipe, charge piping, intercooler, knowing you'll have to do some serious chopping to your wiper tray to make it work, then by all means!

$500 takes what you see on the floor

[silver_echo]

do you have a pic of what it looked like in the car?

[Tamago]

http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e239/fatherdutami/Project%20Angry%20Panda/P1000995.jpg
http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e239/fatherdutami/Project%20Angry%20Panda/P1010031.jpg
http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e239/fatherdutami/Project%20Angry%20Panda/P1010453.jpg
http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e239/fatherdutami/Project%20Angry%20Panda/P1010461.jpg

[PHXDEMON]

:coolpics:

[silver_echo]

crap... i would have to lose my strut tower bar...:frown:

[m911gt]

crap... i would have to lose my strut tower bar...:frown:

and that wouldn't be worth gaining a FI setup? lol

[cali yaris]

that is just frigging beautiful. to me, anyways.... :clap:

[Nexus1155]

I'm serosuly considering this and don't mind cutting some of the metal tray as long as it still works. Just wondering if you used any management unit when using this, and if you needed new injectors?... If not what AFR did it run.

oh, and any CEL light/limp ever?

I know im asking questions that might not relate to the yaris, but hey...

[Tamago]

I'm serosuly considering this and don't mind cutting some of the metal tray as long as it still works. Just wondering if you used any management unit when using this, and if you needed new injectors?... If not what AFR did it run.

oh, and any CEL light/limp ever?

I know im asking questions that might not relate to the yaris, but hey...

with my inexperienced tuning abilities, and running JUST a MAF translator (tricks the ECU into providing more fuel) i got probably 7 codes on a weekly basis..

i was running tC injectors, they were about 60% duty cycle at WOT, full boost and high rpm (so plenty of fuel)

AFR's were between 12:1 and 11.1:1 depending on air temperature.

remember, THIS IS NOT A SHINY BOLT ON KIT!!!!! i made this kit out of left over downpipes, exhaust systems from at least 3 different cars (Subaru forrester downpipe, Mitsubishi Evo turboback, and piping from a toyota tundra)

the welds are not pretty (but are strong) and the uppipe is NOT optimized for power. my previous plan was to build an equal length manifold to replace the cast piece+uppipe but i realized that all that work would go to waste, because no one would want to pay $$ for a manifold that put the turbo smack dab into the wiper tray lol.

[Nexus1155]

can you tell me what codes you got?

I mean it might not be pretty, but it worked right? thats all that really matters... did you get any knock at all with this kit, im assuming the intercooler prevented it...

[Tamago]

can you tell me what codes you got?

I mean it might not be pretty, but it worked right? thats all that really matters... did you get any knock at all with this kit, im assuming the intercooler prevented it...


no knocking, stock ECU pulled plenty of timing (and when ihad the AEM installed, i had some timing pulled as well)

the codes i pulled with the MAF translator

system too rich
secondary o2 codes (no cat)

[cali yaris]

no cats = PO420
too rich = PO702? (or close to that I recall)

Same exact ones I got with my untuned turbo system!


Can't see the mani in your pic -- post a couple more? I think you can sell that thing.

[Tamago]

no cats = PO420
too rich = PO702? (or close to that I recall)

Same exact ones I got with my untuned turbo system!


Can't see the mani in your pic -- post a couple more? I think you can sell that thing.

it's a RevHard cast piece. solid as a rock, but probably not the best-flowing thing on earth.

and thx on the compliments. coming from you it means a lot (you like pretty shiney things, this is neither :wink:)

[KCALB SIRAY]

it's a RevHard cast piece. solid as a rock, but probably not the best-flowing thing on earth.

and thx on the compliments. coming from you it means a lot (you like pretty shiney things, this is neither :wink:)

can it be opened a bit with a little snip snip and cut cut or is it not worth it?

[Tamago]

can it be opened a bit with a little snip snip and cut cut or is it not worth it?

well, i made 155hp as-is.. so if it's worth it to you to make more power at the same PSI, then i say yeah it's worth it.

the cast piece would of course benefit from a good port/polish job

[KCALB SIRAY]

I just posted about it to new member that was looking to boost with the Zage kit and referred him/her to you instead if you want to get rid of it. We'll see.

[Doc Zaius]

Wow... that *is* ghetto-fabulous! Awesome bit of ingenuity there... I'm sure it's a blast to drive!

[Tamago]

Wow... that *is* ghetto-fabulous! Awesome bit of ingenuity there... I'm sure it's a blast to drive!

very much so!

and yes, it is!

[Russelt3hPirate]

it's pretty functional! and in my eyes that is a win!

the intercooler piping/placement is a huge win.

surprised you didn't try and test mount it in russell (charge pipes anyway) while he was at the shop.

[Tamago]

it's pretty functional! and in my eyes that is a win!

the intercooler piping/placement is a huge win.

surprised you didn't try and test mount it in russell (charge pipes anyway) while he was at the shop.

i'd want to test fit the entire setup really..

probably use RealEnth's if he'll let me

[33OH]

Tamago, my '06 ZX6-R for your turbo setup + $5,000, and you fly up here and put it on for me. I'll provide you a futon and food. :rolleyes::biggrin:

[Nexus1155]

^^^^ That is a deal and a half, go Tamago go

[33OH]

I'm being serious too.

http://akroncanton.craigslist.org/mcy/1050317625.html

I'll even throw in a brand new Pirelli Diablo rear tire.


You would have to make it run good, but I don't care about CEL's.

[Nexus1155]

honestly id go buy tamagos kit and install it for you for that deal hahahaha, 1 way ticket and youd have to teach me how to ride the cycle real quick so i can get back.

Nice bike though!, I was offered an R1 for my Audi project

[33OH]

Riding a motorcycle is easy, all you need to know is how to drive stick. =)

[Tamago]

I'm being serious too.

http://akroncanton.craigslist.org/mcy/1050317625.html

I'll even throw in a brand new Pirelli Diablo rear tire.


You would have to make it run good, but I don't care about CEL's.

considering what i can get a bike for down here..... ;) i'll have to pass on that "deal"

[33OH]

Oh, didn't realize motorcycles were cheaper down there.

Usually 636's go for $6500-$7000 here.

[33OH]

Yep, there was this beauty for $2200. Same bike as mine, in Lake Alfred, Florida.

http://images.craigslist.org/3n03m03ofZZZZZZZZZ923ec3971fc25b515a7.jpg

LOL.

[33OH]

Tamago, are you really selling your setup? Any idea on how much would it be to ship it to me?

[Tamago]

Oh, didn't realize motorcycles were cheaper down there.

Usually 636's go for $6500-$7000 here.

buddy of mine picked up a ninja 650R for $3000 last night


but i'm more interested in a supermoto :wub:

[Tamago]

Tamago, are you really selling your setup? Any idea on how much would it be to ship it to me?


yes, really selling.


but it's still not a bolt on for yaris ;)

[33OH]

What's not bolt-on about it?

[ztrack157]

Ninja 650r < 636 or zx6r ever your try to compare a sport bike to a supersport. Tamago the bike Ryank is selling is a fucking steal with the mods it has. That tire hes throwing in isn't cheap either. Ryank on a side note I'm glad to see you dropped the price. I'd snag it for sure if you were out in CA.

[33OH]

Yeah, a 650R is a 2 cylinder sport touring bike, lol. Has like half the horsepower of mine. But it doesn't matter, I really don't need a turbo'ed Yaris anyways.

And thanks ztrack.

[Nexus1155]

I really don't need a turbo'ed Yaris anyways.

SMACK

[taKuto]

lots of probable chopping to make it fit, and engine management is still missing in the kit. You'll need a piggyback like the emanage blue/ultimate or aem FIC. Then tuning, unless you plan on trying to street tune it yourself, then you'll have to grab a wideband
What's not bolt-on about it?

[cali yaris]

You'll need a piggyback like the emanage blue/ultimate or aem FIC

ummm...

[Tamago]

Ninja 650r < 636 or zx6r ever your try to compare a sport bike to a supersport. Tamago the bike Ryank is selling is a fucking steal with the mods it has. That tire hes throwing in isn't cheap either. Ryank on a side note I'm glad to see you dropped the price. I'd snag it for sure if you were out in CA.

i'm aware of that, but i'm still not interested in a 636. i've ridden both, and they're both good in their own way.

[33OH]

That's fine. I'm not trying to shove it down your throat. Just saying, a 650 isn't worth very much. My friend traded his '06 650R for a 97 Ford Ranger last summer.

[taKuto]

ummm...

i was wrong? :(

[CASTREX]

i was wrong? :(

If it would only be that simple....

We would have 20 turbo Yarii on this forum by now...

[Tamago]

i was wrong? :(


you and i share like-ECU's

the new yarii ecu's are pansies :wink:

[Nexus1155]

I have a question maybe someone can answer, hopefully Tamago or Cali, but these ECU's i have been thinking they make corrections based of the O2 sensor readings, but is it possible they read off the MAP sensor as well? Do these cars even have one or do they manage without it?

because i know there is a way to trick the O2 sensor, and i read of people tricking the MAP sensor by putting a restrictor in the line...

[taKuto]

you and i share like-ECU's

the new yarii ecu's are pansies :wink:

less things to worry about for me then :biggrin:

If it would only be that simple....

We would have 20 turbo Yarii on this forum by now...

what's the main differences with the yaris ECU over the echo/scion ECU which prevents a piggyback from functioning? Fooling the MAF isn't enough for low boost? I know greddy makes some sort of o2 sensor adapter they recommend for the 1nzfe, which I'd guess is just an expensive resistor, wouldn't that work for lowering o2 sensor readings? Not sure what else these ecu's look at other than MAF and o2, still new to the snail game.

[CASTREX]

less things to worry about for me then :biggrin:



what's the main differences with the yaris ECU over the echo/scion ECU which prevents a piggyback from functioning? Fooling the MAF isn't enough for low boost? I know greddy makes some sort of o2 sensor adapter they recommend for the 1nzfe, which I'd guess is just an expensive resistor, wouldn't that work for lowering o2 sensor readings? Not sure what else these ecu's look at other than MAF and o2, still new to the snail game.

The Yaris ECU is just a bit more smart. And when a piggyback is trying to mess up with is normal functioning it will self adjust to bring the car to it's original parameters.

The AEM FIC is supposed to be the hottest latest thing out there in regards to piggy backs. 2 or 3 people have tried to tune a Yaris with them with out succsess.

I believe succesful piggy backing can be done... I mean is a Yaris, not a space rocket. Just there are not that many people trying out there. So there is not a proven way to do it yet.

People in Asia are using the Dastek Unichip to tune the Yaris... So it can be done.

Is just that no one has come yet with a clean effective way to make an Emanage or a FIC work on the Yaris.

There are a lot of getto ways to go around this... but must Yaris owners are concerned with reliability....

[CASTREX]

Talking about piggy backs....

The Infamous POwer Enterprises SC comes with a split second unit right?


Has anyone contacted split second regarding that particular unit???

[taKuto]

if it's adjusting to stock, then it has to be reading some value that the piggyback is not intercepting in order to adjust accordingly? But if you modify the O2 and MAF, what does that leave for the ECU to base its adjustments off? The ecu can't be completely closed-loop i'm sure it relies on feedback off other values if it's smart enough to adjust to changes. :iono:

[Nexus1155]

I mean is a Yaris, not a space rocket

Says you...

MAP sensor is another thing that most cars read off for boost? like i asked before but it was disregarded lol i guess

[taKuto]

I think the yaris only has an MAF on the intake, but for boost applications a MAP is the preferred way to go, though I wonder if its worth it to trick the ecu MAF while running off an addon MAP at the same time.

[Nexus1155]

it might be depending if you can add one on there, but i wouldve figured all cars had a 1 Bar MAP, how is it going to detect manifold pressure? I think the pressure is displayed in scangauge?

http://www.go.jeep-xj.info/HowtoMAPsensor.htm

[cali yaris]

2 or 3 people have tried to tune a Yaris with them with out succsess.


Four, actually.

the new yarii ecu's are pansies

LOL so true and so sad.

Takuto, I know you're trying to gain information, and that's cool -- but there are those of us who have tried and failed so far, so please accept that information as valid.

My suggestion is GO FOR IT, and teach us something. The fact remains that there is no tuned turbo Yaris in the USA at this time, unless there is one I don't know about. Mine will be soon, but at the cost of going full standalone. That's not the solution most have been looking for.

Unless more people try, we won't get anywhere.

(I said Yaris, Tamago -- you're one of our inspiring 1.5L exceptions :biggrin:)

[taKuto]

any prospects on swapping out the yaris ecu with an echo ecu, with just some rewiring for the harness?

[Tamago]

any prospects on swapping out the yaris ecu with an echo ecu, with just some rewiring for the harness?

not worth the effort.

you'd need to replace multiple sensors, lengthen the harness, drill a hole in the firewall.

all that and you could have got a standalone.

or a faster car

[Arkhangel]

any prospects on swapping out the yaris ecu with an echo ecu, with just some rewiring for the harness?

not worth the effort.

you'd need to replace multiple sensors, lengthen the harness, drill a hole in the firewall.

all that and you could have got a standalone.

or a faster car

Any other 1nz-fe car we could swith the ECU with or would it be the same?
Off of Wiki

1NZ-FE

The 1NZ-FE is a 1.5 L (1497 cm³) conventional Otto cycle variant of the 1NZ-FXE. It has the same bore and stroke, but the compression ratio is lowered to 10.5:1, and it features VVT-i. Output is 80 kW (106 hp) at 6000 rpm with 140 Nm (103 ft·lbf) of torque at 4200 rpm.

Applications:

* Toyota Yaris/Echo
* Scion xA/ist
* Scion xB
* Toyota Vios
* Toyota Raum
* Toyota Porte
* Toyota Platz
* Toyota Auris
* Toyota Fun Cargo
* Toyota Premio
* Toyota Allion
* Toyota Sienta
* Toyota WiLL
* Toyota Probox
* Toyota Ractis
* Toyota Corolla Axio
* Toyota Corolla Fielder

[CASTREX]

not worth the effort.

you'd need to replace multiple sensors, lengthen the harness, drill a hole in the firewall.

all that and you could have got a standalone.

or a faster car

You will also have to figure out way to handle the drive by wire.

Echos / xA / xB have all conventional cable throttel.

[CASTREX]

There are alot of tuning devices out there... is just that only a few people have tried it so far.

The new Scion TC's shouldn't be that different from the Yaris in regards to the ECU tunning...
And look at them... bunch of them running turbos with piggy backs.

Some one should just take a Yaris to Dezod or something...

[Sabretooth]

Well once Titan Motorsports (Deals with Big Scale! Toyota Projects) here in Orlando gets their new shop open, I might just knock on the door and ask what the can do again, since the will have a new shop with more toys at their disposal. they do Unichip tunes,so that might be an option once more; but when I asked about it before...they said the gains werent worth the money.

Plus they work on so many TC's and Celica's they might just have a trick up their sleeve, or know someone who does.

[CASTREX]

Titan is great, don't get me wrong... but they are Supra guys. That's like a totally different universe. They are use to big full blown projects! usually involving high end stand alones.

Throw in a 2jz in a Yaris and that would be the place to go... :bellyroll:

There are a few places that have done extensive research on the scion TC platform and have come around some clever solutions to some of the problems we have seen with Yaris.

[PHXDEMON]

2jz yaris :laugh: :burnrubber:

[Tamago]

2jz yaris :laugh: :burnrubber:

it's been discussed with great lulz on this forum already..