Subwoofer suggestion for liftback owners

[SimmZ]

I saw some people who install subwoofers into liftback and lost 50% to 100% of trunk space. But these suggestion may also be interesting for sedan owner who wan't loose any carrying space in the trunk!

I have two great subwoofers suggestions for people who want great bass response and who is concerned about trunk space. I test one of these products and the other one as been tested by one of my good friends.

Suggestion #1 : BLAUPUNKT ODw1000HP

http://www.blaupunkt.com/us/images_produkt/7606200282_21696.JPG

- Size : 10"
- Type : Single Voice Coil
- Power Continuous (RMS) : 200 watts
- Power Peak (MAX) : 600 watts
- Sensitivity (dB 2.83V / 1m) : 90 db
- Frequency Response : 20 - 200 hz
- Magnet Weight : 40 oz
- Cone Material : Aluminium & Foam
- Surround Material : Foam
- Mounting Depth : ONLY 2 INCHES !!
- Enclosure recommanded : ONLY 0.4 SQ-FT SEALLED !!

This subwoofer is designed especialy to be installed in tailgates, rear decks, just about anywhere! You may even install it "free to air" (no need of a box) but it's still better to use sealled enclosure. My friend install one of these into a Mazda Miata (no trunk space), in a "free to air" setup and it play real nice. I had one of these two years ago and I like it very much. I use it into a real real small sealled enclosure (12in x 12in x 6in) and it play REALLY nice. This subwoofer play loud but really clear. For liftback owner, you may even consider to install in directly into the hatchback cover lid!! It's only 10" wide, so you can also install some 6.5" speakers on both side of the subwoofer. What a nice setup!! :drool:



Suggestion #2 : CLARION PFW1051

http://www.clarioncanada.com/ca/en/MungoBlobs/143/837/PFW1051,2.jpg
http://www.clarioncanada.com/ca/en/Product_Profile/ProductsSubCategory_Subwoofers,32.gif

- Size : 10"
- Type : Single Voice Coil
- Power Continuous (RMS) : 300 watts
- Power Peak (MAX) : 600 watts
- Cone Material : Kevlar/Paper Composite
- Surround Material : Co-polymer Composite
- Mounting Depth : 3 INCHES

This is also a great product. I'm not sure about enclosure size required, but it's probably very small like the Blaupunkt. My friend test this product and it was very nice too. Just a little bigger mounting depth however.


Hope this suggestions will help some people here. :thumbsup:

[Sérgio Barros]

Who search a good one to subwoofer and that it needs a pretty cash. This is my choice: Diamond D308

http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/4545/subwoofer2rd.jpg

Mica-filled poly Driver and Ferrite Magnet

Type: Dual voice coil
Size: 8 in.
Power Handling NOM/MAX: 200/400 watts
Sensitivity (2.83V/1m): 83 dB SPL
Freq. Response: 30-500
Mounting Depth/Diameter: 4.1 in. / 7.4 in.

But it costs about 180€

For more information: http://www.diamondaudio.com

[SimmZ]

That's a great suggestion too.

But the reason why I start that thread to talk about these Blaupunkt and Clarion models it's because they are specially designed for very small space like a hatchback trunk. I saw many audio setup in liftback on this site and maybe peoples aren't knowing that special subwoofers like that exist.

They aren't the most powerfull and best sounding subwoofers on the market, but they sound real good and they are the smallest subs for sure! :wink:

[slvryaris]

Try Bazooka tubes or something like that. I know someone posted in an earlier forum that theey had one in their car.

[spacemanoeuvres]

Try Bazooka tubes or something like that. I know someone posted in an earlier forum that theey had one in their car.

werd

http://www.yarisworld.com/forums/showthread.php?t=785

Ripped from my old paseo because I couldn't afford to get anything new :laugh:

It sounds good but takes up a fair amount of space which is kind of annoying. For example, I always have to take my girl's car grocery shopping because a weeks worth of stuffs won't fit in with that dang tube!

If I had money I'd look at other options (above) but the tube works a'okay for now...

[MacMaster761]

here is another subwoofer that will fit into a tight space...

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=250020661975&ssPageName=MERC_VI_RSCC_Pr4_PcY_BIN_Stores_IT&refitem=250019125403&itemcount=4&refwidgetloc=active_view_item&usedrule1=StoreCatToStoreCat&refwidgettype=cross_promot_widget

hahahaha good luck guys

[plushDJ]

try the pioneer flat subs, I've heard a couple shops recommend them around here for tight spaces

[johnnyfive]

here is another subwoofer that will fit into a tight space...

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=250020661975&ssPageName=MERC_VI_RSCC_Pr4_PcY_BIN_Stores_IT&refitem=250019125403&itemcount=4&refwidgetloc=active_view_item&usedrule1=StoreCatToStoreCat&refwidgettype=cross_promot_widget

hahahaha good luck guys


lol...11 & 1/2" mounting depth, 18" square..not exactly for tight spaces...but that is a good price for a 18" solo X :)


but here is a real good one for you guys with the hatch, you can fit a 6.5" in your rear, correct?
http://www.edesignaudio.com/product.php?cid=&pid=32&cur=USD

throw one of those in each of the rear stock locations, and put a lowpass crossover on them, set at about 80 Hz. and get a nice set of components for the front, and ill bet you have a real nice setup :)

[Sérgio Barros]

I have to subwoofer amplified of the Pioneer and it he is so small that he fits underneath of the bank of the front.
It has a command with phase and frenquência, volume control.
Subwoofer has 8" and has incorporated amplifier. Tem 200watts of maximum power.
Its price in new is of 175€

http://img177.imageshack.us/img177/5696/pioneertswx22atz2.jpg

http://img196.imageshack.us/img196/7149/mala2hj.jpg



Also you have hipotese to take off the tire substitute and to place subwoofer there.

http://img160.imageshack.us/img160/9656/stealthbox5rp.jpg

http://img160.imageshack.us/img160/2227/imghbx250ds8wb.jpg

http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/7281/asb3102su.jpg

http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/7834/ampl9qg.jpg

http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/9476/creafotocp2.jpg

[JustAnotherAsian]

but here is a real good one for you guys with the hatch, you can fit a 6.5" in your rear, correct?
http://www.edesignaudio.com/product.php?cid=&pid=32&cur=USD
throw one of those in each of the rear stock locations, and put a lowpass crossover on them, set at about 80 Hz. and get a nice set of components for the front, and ill bet you have a real nice setup :)

heck, shove in a 200w amp in one of the supposidly large cavities around the trunk area behind the panels, or under a seat, and you've got one stealthy setup. :clap:

[SimmZ]

There's another great product for hatch... but this one is real expensive.

INFINITY BASSLINK II

http://www.infinitysystems.com/caraudio/images/productimages/largeimage/BASSLINKII.jpg

MSRP U.S. $: 424.95
Power Output: 250 Watts
Frequency Response: 20Hz – 320Hz
Variable Bass EQ: +3dB to -6dB at 45Hz
Variable Electronic Crossover:

[SimmZ]

I have to subwoofer amplified of the Pioneer and it he is so small that he fits underneath of the bank of the front.
It has a command with phase and frenquência, volume control.
Subwoofer has 8" and has incorporated amplifier. Tem 200watts of maximum power.
Its price in new is of 175€

http://img177.imageshack.us/img177/5696/pioneertswx22atz2.jpg


I just take a look on Pioneer website and this product is not available to north america market.

[SimmZ]

But Pioneer carry some new low-profile subwoofers for 2006. I never try this product, but they seem to be great. Blaupunkt still carry the lower profile subwoofer with 2" mounting depth. Pionner is exactly the same size than Clarion.

PIONEER TS-SW2541D

http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/pio/pe/images/portal/cit_3442/297564759TS-SW2541D%20Large.jpg

Watts MAX. Music Power : 1000 Watts
Watts Nominal Power Handling : 250 Watts
Frequency Response : 20 ~ 1,000Hz
Sensitivity : 87dB
Ohm Rating : 4
Recommended Enclosure : ONLY 0.35 ~ 0.7 Cubic Feet
Dimensions : 11-1/8" x 3-1/2"
Mounting Depth : ONLY 3"

[MacMaster761]

but seriously i just bought this...

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=015&item=250012825145&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWN%3AIT&rd=1

cant wait till it comes, should fit nicely right in the back left of the trunk

[SimmZ]

but seriously i just bought this...

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=015&item=250012825145&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWN%3AIT&rd=1

cant wait till it comes, should fit nicely right in the back left of the trunk

Look like a great product! Size is not too bad... 14" W x 13-1/4" H x 14-7/8" D

[weeze-dog]

I wonder if there is a 8" or 10" flat sub solution that would fit under the front seat? Maybe have the sub under one seat, and the amp under the other?
How much room is under the front seats?
You might have to remove the seat to get it in there, but once it is in, should be ok.
That would be great so that it doesn't take up space in the hatch, and it would be easier to wire. Space under the seats is completely unused.

[mikeukrainetz]

I think youd only get away with an amp (1.5" - 2.5") under the seats, otherwise youll end up running into all the existing wiring and brackets and then forget about moving the seats (or forget and slide the seats into whatever you have under them... lol)

[ChinoCharles]

I'll be putting this sucker in my liftback.

1201

Carbon fiber/kevlar cone. 3000 watts peak. I'm going to put 600 RMS to this bad 10" and see what happens. They're supposed to be smooth like butter.

[MacMaster761]

600 rms, damnnnnnnnnnnn:headbang:

[mikeukrainetz]

Nice sub.
I put cheap Volfenhag 12's in my hatch, if that sub works at least as good as the ones I got (prob better) itll be one loud hatch. I notice the panel above the hatch on the exterior rattles with the subs going.

[seriousfun]

I put a Kenwood KSC-SW1 under the passenger seat. 6.5" woofer with a 6.5" passive radiator, 100-some watts claimed, variable crossover. I may add an amp and replacement speakers sometime.

http://www.kenwood.com/j/press/images/ksc_sw1_pop.jpg

I work with audio every day, and I am extremely critical about sound. Since I have no plans to put a reference-quality system in the Yaris, my needs were met - extending the clean low-end response of the existing system while removing some strain from the main amps and speakers. I didn't want to take up an inch of space in the liftback, and this thing fit fine.

[mikeukrainetz]

Does the depth of this setup effect the operation of the passenger seat?

[SEaton]

if you are serious about bass please dont get a bazooka tube

[spacemanoeuvres]

if you are serious about bass please dont get a bazooka tube

why not...?

[ChinoCharles]

Reasons why not to get a Bazooka tube...
Single voice coil (booo)
200W RMS power handling (weak)
Size (huge enclosure for one 10)
Infinity basslink... same wattage, a little more money, but no need for an amp (I saw one of these in person at a Best Buy and almost left with it... they're awesome)

Reasons why to get one...
Cheap (as hell!)
Enclosure will lessen body vibration
Probably plenty of bass for a hatchback for MOST people

[johnnyfive]

since this is what is going in my car thread now....http://www.low-hz.com/commerce/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=21_24&products_id=28 is going in custom fiberglass behind the wheelwell, and running 1k watts rms...

[ChinoCharles]

Umm... wow. That is going to be amazing. Fiberglass looks super clean when done really well.

[SEaton]

Reasons why not to get a Bazooka tube...
Single voice coil (booo)
200W RMS power handling (weak)
Size (huge enclosure for one 10)
Infinity basslink... same wattage, a little more money, but no need for an amp (I saw one of these in person at a Best Buy and almost left with it... they're awesome)

Reasons why to get one...
Cheap (as hell!)
Enclosure will lessen body vibration
Probably plenty of bass for a hatchback for MOST people


Like I said, if you are serious about the bass, stay away. If you don't believe me and C.C. go listen to them for yourself. Get yourself a nice 10" with a strong amp and the dif will be incredible

[spacemanoeuvres]

Reasons why to get one (Bazooka Tube)...
Cheap (as hell!)
Enclosure will lessen body vibration
Probably plenty of bass for a hatchback for MOST people

Exactly why I bought/kept mine :laugh:

But I understand what you guys/gals are saying. If you're an audiophile then the tube just ain't up to snuff.

Thanks for the info :biggrin:

[DJ_Trizzak]

http://uploads.vancouverxchange.com/DJ_Trizzak/sub5.jpg

[SimmZ]

Great setup DJ_Trizzak, but you still lost around 40% of entire your trunk space.

[DJ_Trizzak]

Great setup DJ_Trizzak, but you still lost around 40% of entire your trunk space.


thanks - lols ya I know - I was going to get a custom/fiber glass 2 10" in the back seats near the speakers/cup holders - but it would cost alot of $ $ - so I decided to stick with a basic set up - but I might go with the custom fiber glass thing later on:thumbup:

[Fred2006]

Nothing sounds greater than a Big Box !! If you want great sound you don't care about the space you loose!!

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c308/fredemi/valiseouverte_1_1_1.jpg

[seriousfun]

Does the depth of this setup effect the operation of the passenger seat?

The Kenwood? My passenger seat works perfectly after installing this - no problem.

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And for those who question this or other compact subwoofers, no, this won't play 85 dB SPL at 20 Hz, but it allows my system to play a little deeper and a little cleaner - a great investment IMO. Same goes for Bazookas; they're not bad for the money or the space (round tube, square box, etc., has no effect on sound), but their limitations are from their driver and amp quality. When I can replace the door speakers, I expect that the mids and highs will be equally improved.

[bigsky2]

If you only want a bit of thump, Rather than a compact sub, why not put a good set of components up front, and some serious mid-bass drivers in the rear...I am half way there, with the components up front, and already find there's enough bass response...

Cheers

This is a very good suggestion for a hatchback (or any vehicle for that matter) that is tight on space, such as our beloved Yarii.

A set of high quality component reference speakers up front would emphasize bass, while a set of component speakers in the rear would balance the bass with appropriate mid and highs.

It's optional whether to use components both front and rear, but if you are after perfection, I say go for it :wink:

For me, I will begin with a pair of components up front and then experiment with 2/3-ways in the rear to determine if components should also sit in the rear.

Throw in a shallow mount subwoofer like the thread author has suggested, and you are good to go.

Oh yeah, don't forget to get a HU with at least 2 pre outs, PREFERABLY three pre outs.

ALL YOUR SPEAKERS SHOULD RUN ON AMP POWER!
:headbang:

[grimez]

I have always wondered if there wouldn't be room between the front two seats where the arm rest is, maybe throw in a slim profile 8 incher. Brace it up, maybe get a custom molding for it. I think one smaller sub, 8 or 10 inches would be more than enough for a car this size. Of course, power it with an amp.

[plushDJ]

[QUOTE=Fred2006]Nothing sounds greater than a Big Box !! If you want great sound you don't care about the space you loose!!
Who needs a hatch :cool: I'm getting two of these badasses. 15", 6000 watt peak for burps....ugh, orgasm

[johnnyfive]

Who needs a hatch :cool: I'm getting two of these badasses. 15", 6000 watt peak for burps....ugh, orgasm

what is that?

[plushDJ]

Mass Destruction Napalm. Check mdcaraudio.com. They're a new company so all their stuff is on pre order. I'm expecting mine in a couple weeks now. The 12's of these have been tested up to 150 plus dbs so I'm expecting big things with two fifteens. The subs are rated at 1000wrms, 2000 peak with music, 6000wrms for competition burps. Insane!! And this is their mid level woofer lol Their better ones are expected in 2007

[mikeukrainetz]

Ive checked the size of the flanges and box space requirments for 15's and youll be losing you back seats entirely with those... so if your going that route why not just pick up a couple 22" MTX jackhamers? And just weld up the suspension solid cause I imagine the 15's are about 60lbs and then the amps, battery and alt to run the whole works. BTW the 22" MTX subs are over 360lbs...

http://www.mtx.com/caraudio/products/subwoofers/jackHammer.cfm

[plushDJ]

Oh yeah, those jhamm's are retarded. The Napalms are actually small box ( the 12's will perform in as little as 1 cu ft). I'm thinking one box for daily driving with the back seat up ( 2.7 cuft each) and a different box for competition. You know, seat down and all. All out SPL

[ChinoCharles]

Ever seen a Yaris explode? :tongue:

[Fred2006]

NNiiiice