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la_scanner
03-22-2009, 09:57 PM
diesel fuel put into car instead of reg.
car poops out and wont start
drained fuel
replaced spark plugs with AUTOLITE Part # XP3924
filled with premium
ether sprayed into air filter, or intake something or another
remaing diesel drained into a 1 gallon empty oil can
attach fuel line to engine. car runs
MAITNENCE LIGHT ON
TOYOTA SAYS ITS BAD SPARK PLUGS
LOCAL MECHANIC SAYS ITS NOT
THEN HE SAYS THEY ARE BAD. CHARGES $138.00
LIGHT OFF
NOW BACK ON
AND NOW WHAT????

dvlnblkdrs
03-22-2009, 10:01 PM
take back to mechanic.. how the hell u put diesel in "by accident"? green handle vs black handle... you may want to contact ur auto insurance to file a comprehensive claim for this... yes, stupidity is usually covered.. :bellyroll: sorry, i work in suto insurance claims..

la_scanner
03-22-2009, 10:08 PM
real stupid indeed. was it me? no. will you believe me? no?

dvlnblkdrs
03-22-2009, 10:09 PM
always pump ur own gas :iono:

la_scanner
03-22-2009, 10:12 PM
cant when ya share a couple vehicles. other then that. any ideas on if filling with disel is the issue or could it really be spark plugs? obviously toyota is going to say put toyota plugs in. but isn't a spark a spark. plus when i look up if those autolite XP3924 can be used. it seems to say they can. 2006-2007 toyota yaris.

CTScott
03-22-2009, 10:31 PM
diesel fuel put into car instead of reg.
car poops out and wont start
drained fuel
replaced spark plugs with AUTOLITE Part # XP3924
filled with premium
ether sprayed into air filter, or intake something or another
remaing diesel drained into a 1 gallon empty oil can
attach fuel line to engine. car runs
MAITNENCE LIGHT ON
TOYOTA SAYS ITS BAD SPARK PLUGS
LOCAL MECHANIC SAYS ITS NOT
THEN HE SAYS THEY ARE BAD. CHARGES $138.00
LIGHT OFF
NOW BACK ON
AND NOW WHAT????



Good thing it was diesel in a gas engine and not vice versa.

Now that the diesel has been drained and the plugs replaced, keep running it and keep topping it off with premium to dilute any remaining diesel in the system.

Go to an auto parts store and have them read the code causing the MIL to be on (most auto parts places will read it for no charge). You may continue to see misfires or similar codes until it's fully purged of the diesel.

firebob
03-22-2009, 10:33 PM
CTScott posted when I was typing but will post this any way…


What has been done has been done so let’s look past some ones fuck up.

With draining the gas there will still be some fuel left in the return system and in the tank. Mixing gas a diesel results in a higher flash point then either one by it’s self. I would think this could lead to problems in the catalytic (sp) converter and o2 sensor.

But I have a question. What are and what have the computer codes been during this time? I have a feeling that no one has look at the computer because there is nothing said about it. If the computer dose not like what is happening to the car then why not let the computer tell you what it thinks needs to be different? I’m sure the computer will give you better info then a bunch of people sitting all around the world guessing.




But just for shits and giggles…

I say you messed up the o2 sensor and possibly the catalytic converter so why are you messing with the spark plugs?

Snyprwlf47
03-22-2009, 10:44 PM
Good thing it was diesel in a gas engine and not vice versa.

Now that the diesel has been drained and the plugs replaced, keep running it and keep topping it off with premium to dilute any remaining diesel in the system.

Go to an auto parts store and have them read the code causing the MIL to be on (most auto parts places will read it for no charge). You may continue to see misfires or similar codes until it's fully purged of the diesel.

I support this message. To add to this advice, try to lay into the accelerator just a little more to use a little more than usual gas.^-^

la_scanner
03-22-2009, 10:46 PM
well. i have no idea what any of the computer read outs have been. and we have been driving car for over a month now, with no running problems what so ever. other then toyota saying wrong spark plugs, local mechanic saying otherwise. then changing mind. charges 138 to replace with toyota plugs. lights off then back on days later. originally im not the one who did initial fix. a freid of a friend did. did you read my original post?

http://www.yarisworld.com/forums/showthread.php?t=15300

that should explain more

as far as computer goes. i would assume toyota read it. and i would assume the local mechanic my grandmother took it to when he replaced plusgs read it too. so keep in mind it was my friend that put the autolite plugs in. car ran fine. initial drive around block a bit smoky becuase of fuel, afer that its been fine. just the damn light. since then i have not had friend do anything with car. it has not had anything to do with my, my grandma took to toyota and said spark plugs, then she decided to get our local mechanics opinion, he guaranteed her no. did somehting else and light was off, then back on. took back to him and he replaced with $17.00 a piece toyota plugs with time coming to $138.00. lights back on. so i PERSONALLY have thought whole time, nothing wrong with plugs. its the "professionals" telling us otherwise!

la_scanner
03-22-2009, 10:48 PM
I support this message. To add to this advice, try to lay into the accelerator just a little more to use a little more than usual gas.^-^

even with driving this since january 30th. and when i say driving it i mean nothing feeling wierd or off at all. just the fact that light is on.

Snyprwlf47
03-22-2009, 11:05 PM
even with driving this since january 30th. and when i say driving it i mean nothing feeling wierd or off at all. just the fact that light is on.

Go to advanced and have them clear it for you and tell you what it is.If it continues after 3 or 4 times of doing this then your problem is just going to be annoying.>.<

Snyprwlf47
03-22-2009, 11:12 PM
Sorry posted last one before I read the long version. Go to that area of your car that he sprayed ether and check and make sure all clips and the filter itself are tight. Also double check all gas lines to make sure that after you replaced them no air is getting in them( I have seen cars come in with nothing wrong but the gas cap being a little loose) Basically you need to make sure that everything you took apart is back together properly then have advanced clear the error code for you.^_^

la_scanner
03-22-2009, 11:53 PM
well i do recall us having a difficult time getting that filter box snapped back together. but if anything. a lot of my reason for posting here is to make sure its not the AUTOLITE Part # XP3924 plugs that would be causing the light on. im getting a lot of crap from mom and grandma saying well if your friend didn't do this and that. well shit, sorry. my sister fucked it up with gas to begin with . we did not have 1000 bucks for toyota to do what they wanted to do. so i feel my buddy and me did a pretty decent job. and for the other mechanic. alosta auto and tire in glendora. why when he did a tune up on car and dent out a rim for 301 bucks say that no no no, its not the spark plugs. i got the light off. but if it comes back on bring back and will see whats up. then he decides, okay. its the spark plugs. must put toyota spark plugs in. another $138. then light back on. ahhhhhh....so frustrated being one blamed here even though sister does this and it seems no one cares. maybe we have more then a car problem ha? :)

CTScott
03-22-2009, 11:59 PM
well i do recall us having a difficult time getting that filter box snapped back together. but if anything. a lot of my reason for posting here is to make sure its not the AUTOLITE Part # XP3924 plugs that would be causing the light on. im getting a lot of crap from mom and grandma saying well if your friend didn't do this and that. well shit, sorry. my sister fucked it up with gas to begin with . we did not have 1000 bucks for toyota to do what they wanted to do. so i feel my buddy and me did a pretty decent job. and for the other mechanic. alosta auto and tire in glendora. why when he did a tune up on car and dent out a rim for 301 bucks say that no no no, its not the spark plugs. i got the light off. but if it comes back on bring back and will see whats up. then he decides, okay. its the spark plugs. must put toyota spark plugs in. another $138. then light back on. ahhhhhh....so frustrated being one blamed here even though sister does this and it seems no one cares. maybe we have more then a car problem ha? :)

It is unlikely that the plugs are causing the MIL to light up (unless there was enough diesel left to foul them as well).

Again, the best way to know, rather than speculate, is to get the code read.

la_scanner
03-23-2009, 12:05 AM
completely agree. but wouldn't you guess that the code or whatever was read by both toyota when grandma got estimate and when taken to local mechanic. i sure would. considering light was off for a while. 2 times so far. when she took for tune up and when she took back to put toyota plugs in. im so mad at myself that i did not go with her. she threw away printout from toyota and yes of course print out from the other guy!

CTScott
03-23-2009, 12:21 AM
Sure, they read and reset it, but a code can have multiple causes. Based on them knowing the original cause, they may be just assuming what the current issue is.

Snyprwlf47
03-23-2009, 03:15 AM
well i do recall us having a difficult time getting that filter box snapped back together. but if anything. a lot of my reason for posting here is to make sure its not the AUTOLITE Part # XP3924 plugs that would be causing the light on. im getting a lot of crap from mom and grandma saying well if your friend didn't do this and that. well shit, sorry. my sister fucked it up with gas to begin with . we did not have 1000 bucks for toyota to do what they wanted to do. so i feel my buddy and me did a pretty decent job. and for the other mechanic. alosta auto and tire in glendora. why when he did a tune up on car and dent out a rim for 301 bucks say that no no no, its not the spark plugs. i got the light off. but if it comes back on bring back and will see whats up. then he decides, okay. its the spark plugs. must put toyota spark plugs in. another $138. then light back on. ahhhhhh....so frustrated being one blamed here even though sister does this and it seems no one cares. maybe we have more then a car problem ha? :)

Its more than likely that its not the plugs...Double check the filter box though.

jambo101
03-23-2009, 06:37 AM
Wondering how some one mistakenly put diesel fuel in your car as a diesel pump nozzle wont fit a gasoline powered cars filler tube as its twice the diameter to prevent accidental diesel fillups.
If in fact diesel was somehow put in your tank i'd expect your code will be pointing to the O2 sensor which would be totally contaminated with diesel exhaust byproducts.I would think your original problem might have been a result of bad gas(water contamination) Existing plugs would only need to be cleaned,your dealer is ripping you off by charging $138 for new ones.

b_hickman11
03-23-2009, 09:00 PM
WHAT LIGHT IS ON? THE "CHECK ENGINE" LIGHT OR THE "MAINTENCE REQUIRED" LIGHT? THESE ARE 2 SEPERATE LIGHTS AND HAVE 2 DIFFERENT MEANINGS.

b_hickman11
03-24-2009, 09:03 PM
??????????????

b_hickman11
03-27-2009, 12:05 AM
So Im assuming it was the oil change reminder light that came on and not the engine light.

SilverGlow
03-27-2009, 05:15 PM
A friend of my daughter filled her 2008 Yaris HB with Diesel. It of course stalled 1 mile from the gas station. Towed to Toyota stealership. They said $800 to fix it. She called me. I told the service writer Bool Sheet Thieves. I suggest to the girl that she should ask them to (1) flush out the fuel lines, empty tank, change charcoal emissions box, change spark plugs, clean O2 sensors (both of them). And they did that and the car works perfectly. That was 2 months ago. After the first week, the car was throwing P0420 codes, then after the first week and up to today, no more codes thrown. This code had to do with "low threshold flow to catalytic converter". This problem work it's way out over time. The total cost was $380.00. Hope this helps...by the way, why fill up your tank with premium....does not make any sense!

la_scanner
03-28-2009, 01:12 AM
WHAT LIGHT IS ON? THE "CHECK ENGINE" LIGHT OR THE "MAINTENCE REQUIRED" LIGHT? THESE ARE 2 SEPERATE LIGHTS AND HAVE 2 DIFFERENT MEANINGS.

its yellow and according to the 2006-2007 toyota yaris manual, its the one that stands for ...

MALFUNCTION INDICATOR LAMP *1

la_scanner
03-28-2009, 01:17 AM
A friend of my daughter filled her 2008 Yaris HB with Diesel. It of course stalled 1 mile from the gas station. Towed to Toyota stealership. They said $800 to fix it. She called me. I told the service writer Bool Sheet Thieves. I suggest to the girl that she should ask them to (1) flush out the fuel lines, empty tank, change charcoal emissions box, change spark plugs, clean O2 sensors (both of them). And they did that and the car works perfectly. That was 2 months ago. After the first week, the car was throwing P0420 codes, then after the first week and up to today, no more codes thrown. This code had to do with "low threshold flow to catalytic converter". This problem work it's way out over time. The total cost was $380.00. Hope this helps...by the way, why fill up your tank with premium....does not make any sense!

a few people suggested i fill with premium after all this happened to "possibly" help flush disel. i did this once or twice

"Toyota stealership" - think i will add that to www.urbandictionary.com

also for anyone wondering what the update or status is on all this. i took to autozone to have them read the computer or do whatever but they told me they no longer due that due to a lawsuit. dont know if its for all autozones or just this one in covina,ca. told me to take to aamco. maybe i'll do that tomorrow

la_scanner
03-28-2009, 01:37 AM
Wondering how some one mistakenly put diesel fuel in your car as a diesel pump nozzle wont fit a gasoline powered cars filler tube as its twice the diameter to prevent accidental diesel fillups.
If in fact diesel was somehow put in your tank i'd expect your code will be pointing to the O2 sensor which would be totally contaminated with diesel exhaust byproducts.I would think your original problem might have been a result of bad gas(water contamination) Existing plugs would only need to be cleaned,your dealer is ripping you off by charging $138 for new ones.

well i have the reciet that says $10.22 of diesel was pumped into car. it was almost 5 gallons. my dad and others have told me though that they used to do that with the sizes of nozzle. my dad thought they still did. maybe some gas stations do and dont. i would have to go to the chevron in la verne and see for myself. maybe it was forced in.

jambo101
03-28-2009, 06:30 AM
Go to the station and put the diesel nozzle in your gas filler and you will see very quickly how impossible it is to pump any diesel gas into your car,the only way i can see is if some one ran out of gas and filled it with a jerry can.
You said your sister was driving when this happened?what does she say? as the car would have started running bad almost immediately,That reciept you found may not be for a fill up of your car.

la_scanner
03-28-2009, 10:09 PM
I will update as i go. but for now. i got my code reader. of course car had to be used something. anyway, dont know if there are more errors but the first thing that popped up was code P0420

- installing pc software....
p.s - thanks for all the blunt, honest, some funny and a couple mean replys. only kidding. i'll update later

TheSilkySmooth
03-28-2009, 10:20 PM
1) Make sure the airbox is together properly. Shouldnt have sprayed ether in there!! This aint the sixties - yur MAF is in there. 2) I would guess that after some hard driving on the interstate the code should go away after 10 Keyon/keyoffs. U Need to burn any carbon/sulphur off the o2 sensors and the cat. Get on the highway and WAIL. BTW Dont put autolites in any car. Only OEM Denso or NGK in the tOy.

la_scanner
03-29-2009, 01:27 AM
P0420 - Catalyst System Efficiency Below Threshold (Bank 1)

rningonfumes
03-29-2009, 01:32 AM
1.Fried catylitic converter (from unburnt fuel sprayed into it and being heated)
2.Bad O2 -first one before cat.
3. both?

The members here who are mechanics can tell you better.

Edit: Why did you make a third thread??

la_scanner
03-29-2009, 01:36 AM
1.Fried catylitic converter (from unburnt fuel sprayed into it and being heated)
2.Bad O2 -first one before cat.
3. both?

The members here who are mechanics can tell you better.

Edit: Why did you make a third thread??

are you talking about thread with title p0420 and the other that said P0420 - Catalyst System Efficiency Below Threshold (Bank 1).

if you are i guess was being impatient and was wondering if i type more info in thread then maybe more eyes will open and more clicks. i apolagize.

la_scanner
03-29-2009, 01:41 AM
does this help?

rningonfumes
03-29-2009, 01:43 AM
By making more threads, you are making it more inefficient. Three different replies in three different threads will get you no where.

It's easier for the people who may know something to see what others have suggested and then work off those suggestions. Do you think people will be willing to keep jumping between the three threads just to help you?

Have some patiences, people have lives...

la_scanner
03-29-2009, 01:46 AM
By making more threads, you are making it more inefficient. Three different replies in three different threads will get you no where.

It's easier for the people who may know something to see what others have suggested and then work off those suggestions. Do you think people will be willing to keep jumping between the three threads just to help you?

Have some patiences, people have lives...

my bad. a little excited over my new code reader.