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03Z33
08-26-2006, 10:32 AM
These just look so clean, I'm actually considering picking them up even though they're so $$$$


http://img191.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/users/1/2/7/3/tire_wheel_blanca-img600x450-1150379554dscf3838.jpg

http://page6.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/f46988701

Anyone know of a more local place to pick these up?

03Z33
08-26-2006, 10:42 AM
There's also this fancy Blitz version of the "scanguage" pretty much has the same features...

http://img185.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/users/2/1/9/6/bnr32gtrrtg23rnb-img600x450-1149937853r-vits002.jpg

http://page9.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/k33259560

ChinoCharles
08-26-2006, 11:31 AM
How much are those? Hey vendors, add these to your lists before I go drop 100+ bucks on an autometer tach!

slvryaris
08-26-2006, 11:49 AM
YA YA we wanna know. What all do they do and is there any other link we can use to see one other then the Japanese Yahoo???

JustAnotherAsian
08-26-2006, 03:00 PM
that's pretty damn clean, but uhm... what are the two other gauges on the side for? or are there three tachs?

paultyler_82
08-26-2006, 04:00 PM
I beleive the small gauges are Water Temp and Oil Temp.

You could probably, if it came down to it, customize your own drivers side glovebox cover with some sort of gauge cluster... correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think that one would fit a LHD Yaris.

Chris07LB
08-26-2006, 07:07 PM
Im looking to copy this type of setup instead...

03Z33
08-26-2006, 11:02 PM
The seller just replied my email and if I'm understanding his nihongo correctly these are the details:

Tach (Center)
Water temp (right side)
Oil (left side)--- not sure if it's oil temp or oil pressure

The price is ~ $1150 US shipped ($$$$!!!)

Brand new, includes plug and play wiring (no splices needed) the cluster seems to be bonded to the US passenger side cover, but it should be able to be separated and glued/riveted to the US driver side.

Currently I have the Scanguage II installed on the steering column, and I also tried it in the center console (by the speedo as well as to the side...) The problem is that the rpm's on the scanguage don't update very quick (even in fast mode) and I find it difficult to see what's going on in all mentioned locations.

Even though the install above looks great, you would still have to look through the steering wheel to view the guages. I would really prefer to have something higher up in closer to where I'm looking and not centered on the dash...

Yaris Yaba
08-27-2006, 01:09 AM
It looks good it made me drool at first sight especially next to that bride seat. But the price just made me stutter. Is it really worth $1150.
Hopefully there will be an aftermarket replica gauge cluster, then i can get it in dry CF.

riceboy
08-27-2006, 01:37 AM
1150??? :eek: are you sure??? that's a lotta coin for three guages and a plastic cover that's for the wrong side

paultyler_82
08-27-2006, 06:48 AM
Tach (Center)
Water temp (right side)
Oil (left side)--- not sure if it's oil temp or oil pressure

It's Oil Temp, the max notch is 15, the TRD Oil Pressure gauge only reads up to 10


The price is ~ $1150 US shipped ($$$$!!!)

YOWCH! DIY the thing with your own cover for that price!



Even though the install above looks great, you would still have to look through the steering wheel to view the guages. I would really prefer to have something higher up in closer to where I'm looking and not centered on the dash...

If I wasnt so busy lately, I'd try to see about an A-Pillar pod solution for our cars, but until my job decides to stop working me to death, I won't be making much progress.

Boo
08-27-2006, 08:24 AM
Tach (Center)
Water temp (right side)
Oil (left side)--- not sure if it's oil temp or oil pressure

The price is ~ $1150 US shipped ($$$$!!!)



Don't do that.. it sounds like a rip off.:mad:
You can buy all 3 gauges for less than $200... even if you go with Delfi, it is still much cheaper.
The price is ridiculous!!:thumbdown:

ChinoCharles
08-27-2006, 10:53 AM
Yeah, if you buy this and your name isn't Hyde you're insane. HAHAHA

Hyde
08-27-2006, 02:29 PM
i didnt get pricing on those gauges yet, but they dont fit LHD cars

Yaris Yaba
08-27-2006, 02:40 PM
i didnt get pricing on those gauges yet, but they dont fit LHD cars

Does it come with the cover or just the cluster itself? Can't you just unscrew it and replace it on the left hand dash?

Kr0n1k
08-27-2006, 02:43 PM
Use Autometer gauges or something like that and just make a housing out of fiberglass and paint it black. $1,150 is just plain stupid for something that won't even fit in our cars, not to mention the guy is probably trying to rip you off to begin with.

Hyde
08-27-2006, 04:00 PM
Use Autometer gauges or something like that and just make a housing out of fiberglass and paint it black. $1,150 is just plain stupid for something that won't even fit in our cars, not to mention the guy is probably trying to rip you off to begin with.

autometer is just plain lame, i cant see why anyone want those ugly things in their car.

Hyde
08-27-2006, 04:02 PM
btw
i'm waiting for my Blitz R-VIT i-Color. apparently, we can adjust a/f ratio with it as well. that function only works on late model toyota cars.

JustAnotherAsian
08-29-2006, 02:02 AM
autometer is just plain lame, i cant see why anyone want those ugly things in their car.

true, but i wouldn't mind the nexus lineup. :wink:

on the other hand, the electroluminecent (like the yaris' gauges) defi-link gauges seem better indeed- i can imagine a medium-sized tach on the center panel, and two other smaller ones on either side of it, or their defi-link 3-gauge din/iso mount (though it isn't electroluminecent- just conventional lighting :frown: ).

dngz
08-29-2006, 02:06 AM
therez this thing that you put under your windshield and it acts as an heads up display. forgot what its called but i saw it in modifiedmag

SmellyTofu
08-29-2006, 05:37 AM
btw
i'm waiting for my Blitz R-VIT i-Color. apparently, we can adjust a/f ratio with it as well. that function only works on late model toyota cars.

I think u also need to wire it into the ECU somehow, not just the diagnostic plug underneath.

paultyler_82
08-30-2006, 01:57 AM
true, but i wouldn't mind the nexus lineup. :wink:

on the other hand, the electroluminecent (like the yaris' gauges) defi-link gauges seem better indeed- i can imagine a medium-sized tach on the center panel, and two other smaller ones on either side of it, or their defi-link 3-gauge din/iso mount (though it isn't electroluminecent- just conventional lighting :frown: ).


Yaris gauges arent EL, the Liftbacks are Optitron, and the Sedans are conventional backlit, there's a big difference, EL is flat printed material that works in a matter similar to other types of fluorescents. Optitron is High contrast LED behind a smoked acrylic dispersion layer. Optitron is also many times more efficient and reliable than EL.

JustAnotherAsian
08-30-2006, 05:03 AM
Yaris gauges arent EL, the Liftbacks are Optitron, and the Sedans are conventional backlit, there's a big difference, EL is flat printed material that works in a matter similar to other types of fluorescents. Optitron is High contrast LED behind a smoked acrylic dispersion layer. Optitron is also many times more efficient and reliable than EL.

sigh*

well, i meant optitron-like. you're right on the electroluminecent point- my optitron gauges (before they were called "optitron") on my lexus were incorrectly called electroluminecent (by lexus itself via booklets, manuals, and many magazines).

lexus had this crap for a long time under "electroluminecent gauges" (for both LED-behind-smoked-layer and true electroluminecent a la 2nd gen GS), i guess someone pointed the real use for the word "electroluminecent" (what you mentioned a la gen 9.0 corolla (bright green gauges) and those commonly seen bright-blue/green gauges).

but my point: optitron is more of a trademark than the actual term for those gauges. i don't know what to call those aftermarket gauges that are like the optitrons (backlit behind smoked layer). so i guess "optitron-like" is good for now and better than "electrolumecent".

sorry.

good thing someone's nitpicky here. lol.

paultyler_82
08-30-2006, 05:57 AM
sigh*

well, i meant optitron-like. you're right on the electroluminecent point- my optitron gauges (before they were called "optitron") on my lexus were incorrectly called electroluminecent (by lexus itself via booklets, manuals, and many magazines).

lexus had this crap for a long time under "electroluminecent gauges" (for both LED-behind-smoked-layer and true electroluminecent a la 2nd gen GS), i guess someone pointed the real use for the word "electroluminecent" (what you mentioned a la gen 9.0 corolla (bright green gauges) and those commonly seen bright-blue/green gauges).

but my point: optitron is more of a trademark than the actual term for those gauges. i don't know what to call those aftermarket gauges that are like the optitrons (backlit behind smoked layer). so i guess "optitron-like" is good for now and better than "electrolumecent".

sorry.

good thing someone's nitpicky here. lol.


Yeah yeah, I know I am, didn't really mean to, my main point, although I seemed to have glazed it over, is that true EL isn't very reliable, I wouldn't go with EL, but anything "Optitron-Like" would be a good route, especially with white illumination and red needle, I think that would match the OE guages the best. I kind of miss the standard backlit style... just so many modification possibilities... like this for instance: http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v503/spkngrmn/?action=view&current=cluster2.flv&refPage=&imgAnch=imgAnch7

slvryaris
08-30-2006, 06:29 AM
Was looking at the Blitz controller and was wondering how much they ran?? Then what sites that are in English please that carry them. I was wondering if it was worth the extra cash to get the Blitz versus the simple Scangauge II.


btw
i'm waiting for my Blitz R-VIT i-Color. apparently, we can adjust a/f ratio with it as well. that function only works on late model toyota cars.

Yaris Yaba
08-30-2006, 07:17 AM
Here are some night shots of the gauges not the TRD ones but some aftermarket, i rekon it looks better.... this guy painted his streering wheel the same color as his center consol, i guess its a new DIY mod.

http://www.yaris-club.net/modules/Forums/files/vitt_9_439.jpg

http://www.yaris-club.net/modules/Forums/files/vitt_10_196.jpg

http://www.yaris-club.net/modules/Forums/files/vitt_13_659.jpg

riceboy
08-30-2006, 08:55 AM
Hey what kind of guages are those? it looks like a pretty sweet setup!

ChinoCharles
08-30-2006, 09:35 AM
That actually was starting to look like a car... instead of a kart haha.

spacemanoeuvres
08-30-2006, 09:40 AM
this setup was my first choice when researching an aftermarket tach.

unfortunately the cost is prohibitive, especially when you consider the reason(s) many of us purchased this car.

Yaris Yaba
08-30-2006, 10:07 AM
Hey what kind of guages are those? it looks like a pretty sweet setup!

there probaly making replica TRD clusters now........ i can feel it. Dont know what the center gauge is but the left and right ones come from spider.

http://www.geocities.com/nekketsu_racing/images/Spider.jpg

http://www.geocities.com/nekketsu_racing/images/Spider_night.jpg

http://www.geocities.com/nekketsu_racing/images/Spider_box.jpg

at ebay if intrested.

http://search.ebay.com/search/search.dll?sofocus=bs&sbrftog=1&from=R10&satitle=spider+gauges&sacat=-1%26catref%3DC6&sargn=-1%26saslc%3D2&sadis=200&fpos=94024&ftrt=1&ftrv=1&saprclo=&saprchi=&fsop=1%26fsoo%3D1&coaction=compare&copagenum=1&coentrypage=search

riceboy
08-30-2006, 10:34 AM
I wouldn't mind buying a replica TRD housing, that way I can install my own guages.... please let us know if you hear anything about it...

ChinoCharles
08-30-2006, 12:39 PM
The housing would be superb. Screw paying $1150 or whatever the hell someone was asking for the gauges.

Chris07LB
08-30-2006, 01:00 PM
Im going digital.. much cleaner IMO.

ChinoCharles
08-30-2006, 01:40 PM
I want to go HUD with a tach but I haven't found one that impressed me all that much yet. I'm also worried about the accuracy/speed of response.

田中秀樹
09-02-2006, 12:29 PM
yes these are expensive. no he's not trying to rip you off with the price. if he takes your money and you get jack crap then yeah that's ripped off.

brand new this set costs 141,750円, with the rate going on right now that is $1209.41.

paultyler_82
09-05-2006, 02:54 AM
yes these are expensive. no he's not trying to rip you off with the price. if he takes your money and you get jack crap then yeah that's ripped off.

brand new this set costs 141,750円, with the rate going on right now that is $1209.41.

I don't think they're trying to say the seller is ripping anyone off... but more or less that the price is a ripoff, which in this case is TRD's fault... but then, TRD has a history of selling overpriced hardware to Toyota enthusiasts.

ChinoCharles
09-05-2006, 01:32 PM
I don't think they're trying to say the seller is ripping anyone off... but more or less that the price is a ripoff, which in this case is TRD's fault... but then, TRD has a history of selling overpriced hardware to Toyota enthusiasts.

Exactly... and not all of their products are such a blatant rip-off, but I wouldn't pay more than 500 bucks for this cluster. Its 3 gauges and some plastic.

mikeukrainetz
09-05-2006, 04:46 PM
As mentioned earlier - Im a big fan of autometer guages but they belong in my street rod, not my import. Defi guages are just as expensive (unless you buy the knockoffs or non defi-link). They look awsome but the defi link setup runs like 200+ a guage.

C2AUTOSPL
09-13-2006, 05:03 PM
As mentioned earlier - Im a big fan of autometer guages but they belong in my street rod, not my import. Defi guages are just as expensive (unless you buy the knockoffs or non defi-link). They look awsome but the defi link setup runs like 200+ a guage.

Here are the new DEFi's(blue lighting)
http://tein.com/defi/img/OFF.jpghttp://tein.com/defi/img/BOOST.jpghttp://tein.com/defi/img/PERSS.jpghttp://tein.com/defi/img/TEMP.jpg

Jem_hadar
09-13-2006, 05:13 PM
Im looking to copy this type of setup instead...

thats actually surprisingly kickass!

paultyler_82
09-13-2006, 06:45 PM
Exactly... and not all of their products are such a blatant rip-off, but I wouldn't pay more than 500 bucks for this cluster. Its 3 gauges and some plastic.

This is why Toyotas need a consistant 3rd party tuner accross the board, like Honda has Spoon or Nissan has Impul... I mean, we have Tom's, but they only tune the high end Toyos... (Not to mention, Toms is about as overpriced as TRD) I hope Yashio Factory decides to work their magic on this Vitz the same as they did on the previous gen.

ToyVitz
09-22-2006, 04:16 AM
Here are some night shots of the gauges not the TRD ones but some aftermarket, i rekon it looks better.... this guy painted his streering wheel the same color as his center consol, i guess its a new DIY mod.

http://www.yaris-club.net/modules/Forums/files/vitt_9_439.jpg


I like that center gauge as well...it has the redline displayed on it as (I believe the Yaris' redline is 6500), that's the way it should be!!! I'm looking for something like that. I can't stand most of the cheap gauges out there, especially ones with the big ones with shift lights on them...let's face it the Yaris isn't a drag car. :thumbsup:

tca4
09-22-2006, 05:21 AM
haha this aftermarket cluster sure looks somewhat better than the TRD one....

MI_canuck
12-24-2006, 03:23 PM
Here are some night shots of the gauges not the TRD ones but some aftermarket, i rekon it looks better.... this guy painted his streering wheel the same color as his center consol, i guess its a new DIY mod.

http://www.yaris-club.net/modules/Forums/files/vitt_9_439.jpg



Is this a DIY kit (ie. gauges and fairing purchased separately) or is it available as a kit? Looks quite good and definitely helps to take the attention away from the center mounted speedo pod...

:thumbsup:

peace

acrbill
12-25-2006, 10:27 AM
One way to copy that gauge cluster would be to make a mold and use fiberglass.

Using that pink hardboard insulation used to insulate outside concrete walls and some whittling tools you could get it into the shape you want. Make a plaster mold of the foam and then use fiberglass, carbon fiber or ABS plastic to make the cluster surround.

Eventually I am going to go with the Apexi decs tach. It has a small digital readout that you can use with various sensors. I really want a water temp gauge so it will work perfect. I should be able to mount it to the column cover and tip it forward to access the glove box.

http://www.heeltoeauto.com/files/Thumbs/apexi_electronics_decsblk.jpg

paultyler_82
12-25-2006, 07:55 PM
One way to copy that gauge cluster would be to make a mold and use fiberglass.

Using that pink hardboard insulation used to insulate outside concrete walls and some whittling tools you could get it into the shape you want. Make a plaster mold of the foam and then use fiberglass, carbon fiber or ABS plastic to make the cluster surround.


Good point! For those of us familiar with how to work with composites and do fiberglassing, this would be a way easier part than a sub enclosure or a dash... I could probably make a few, but they certainly wouldn't be cheap if I sold em, my time is valuable :evil:

Oh yeah, and I'm really lazy, so the lead time could be months


Myself, I was thinking a steering wheel neck pod for a tachometer, kind of like the Mini Cooper, but that particular dash pod really doesn't look too bad.

03Z33
12-25-2006, 08:23 PM
How much does the Apexi gauge go for?

I have my eyes on the AIM-Sports complete standalone dash :biggrin: I'm picking one up for my track car, and may just do a second one in the Yaris for kicks :tongue:

http://www.aimsports.com/images/products/MXL-small.jpg

Black Yaris
12-25-2006, 08:25 PM
That is sharp 03Z33, what the price range for one of those babies?

03Z33
12-25-2006, 09:12 PM
They start at $600 for the MyChron3 and $900 for the MXL

www.aimsports.com

There's a group buy on another forum right now, we're getting around 15% off list... let me know if anyone's serious about picking one up.

KSIbucky
12-25-2006, 10:47 PM
why spend so much

Tamago
12-25-2006, 10:48 PM
duh, to get your post count up! you've almost lit your third star dude!

03Z33
12-25-2006, 10:54 PM
why spend so much

It's actually not that much when you consider everything that's included... this would only make sense if you where planning on picking up a set of guages anyway.

Most decent guages run $80-$140 each, plus the sensors, mounting brkts, etc... you'll easily surpass $400-$600. With the AIM setup you get everything all at once, in a easy to read single cluster for roughly the same price. It's not for everyone, but it would be pretty pimp in a Yaris :drool:

Tamago
12-25-2006, 10:55 PM
what about a Defi Concept HUD with LINK and sensors?

acrbill
12-26-2006, 12:14 AM
The cheapest I have seen that tach for is $340. Which is sort of rediculous but its slim profile is pretty much one of a kind.

paultyler_82
12-26-2006, 12:22 AM
what about a Defi Concept HUD with LINK and sensors?

280 for the HUD, 110 for the Control Unit, and 85 or 169 per sensor depending on sensor type, the Defi HUD can add up on you quickly as well. The Defi system will only do Tach and speed without the optional sensors.

644 for the Defi HUD and controller with only Water Temp and Oil Pressure sensors...

Another alternative, similar to the AIM-Sports is the Racepak Ultra Dash http://www.racepak.com/udx.html

Tamago
12-26-2006, 09:01 AM
i have nothing but good to say about the Defi HUD... i have the Defi Basis, awesome unit

paultyler_82
12-26-2006, 09:22 PM
i have nothing but good to say about the Defi HUD... i have the Defi Basis, awesome unit

I wasn't saying they weren't good, I've never used one, I was just noting that once you get everything, the price is about the same as a set of decent gauges.