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WolfWings
03-24-2009, 04:09 PM
Mostly asking as I'm finally sick and tired of the flaky stock CD/Radio in my Yaris LB and planning to switch it out for a Blaupunkt SD48 (much as I hate their brand, they're about the only reasonably-priced SD-card-only 1-DIN head unit out there).

Now, the trick here is that I found a CB unit that's ALSO 1-DIN sized, and has both Public Address (think bullhorn) and external speaker (I.E. an iPod cable or cell-phone override plug lets it play through the stereo) ports on it.

So, if I get the double-DIN mounting kit can I use that to mount two single-DIN items together? I didn't spot any photos of this when I skimmed through the Double-DIN threads.

goku87
03-24-2009, 04:43 PM
yes

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO_7736

whether or not you can find a twin din kit is another story; might be easier for you to fabricate one...

CTScott
03-24-2009, 05:50 PM
If both devices are true single DIN, then you really don't need a kit (Other than the Metra Double DIN to fill the gap on the sides).

I mounted two single DIN devices in my Xterra (a Sony HU and a Pyle DVD player). The X had a true Double DIN radio, so I stacked the two devices, using the OEM radio's mounting bracket (and the holes even lined up with the mounting holes in the two devices). I can barely slide a piece of paper between the two, so a trim kit wouldn't have even fit:

http://member.newsguy.com/~mcclure/xterra/HU.jpg

Sodium Duck
03-26-2009, 10:45 AM
Correct. Here is an FJ cruiser, which has the same Metra kit that we use. CB and stereo. The mounting holes should be the same, it'll work fine.

I went with a Cobra 18WXSTII (the one in the pic below). It was the only thing that would fit in the Yaris, unless I went with a mini unit, and fabbed up a mounting plate, external speaker, etc. Got a Wilson FGT 3' antenna on the way, and a new AM/FM 3' antenna. Gonna make a fake co-phase looking setup. lol

What CB did you go with?

Oh, and I also posted a good deal on eBay. The double DIN kit, and wiring harness for the stereo, about 16 bucks shipped.
http://www.yarisworld.com/forums/showthread.php?t=15179

CTScott
03-26-2009, 11:40 AM
Correct. Here is an FJ cruiser, which has the same Metra kit that we use. CB and stereo. The mounting holes should be the same, it'll work fine.

I went with a Cobra 18WXSTII. It was the only thing that would fit in the Yaris, unless I went with a mini unit, and fabbed up a mounting plate, external speaker, etc. Got a Wilson FGT 3' antenna on the way, and a new AM/FM 3' antenna. Gonna make a fake co-phase looking setup. lol

What CB did you go with?

Oh, and I also posted a good deal on eBay. The double DIN kit, and wiring harness for the stereo, about 16 bucks shipped.
http://www.yarisworld.com/forums/showthread.php?t=15179


What HU did you go with? I just bought pennyracer's Eclipse AVN2210p (the one with the removable TomTom GPS). I installed it yesterday and am totally digging it...

Sodium Duck
03-26-2009, 01:41 PM
Haven't bought one yet. I can't really decide what I want.

That is a pretty spiffy unit. Now if we could only find the normal DIN sized trim piece... lol

CTScott
03-26-2009, 01:45 PM
Keep your fingers crossed. I may have found the OEM DD trim piece. I will know for sure in a couple of days, and if so, I will arrange a GB for them...

IsLNdbOi
03-26-2009, 06:28 PM
The 180mm DD trim piece?!? Awesome!

WolfWings
03-26-2009, 10:37 PM
Yeah, I'm looking at the Cobra 18 myself for the CB unit. I was going to get a Cobra 75 (the one with all the controls in the mic and a small box you install so you just make a jack in your dash somewhere) but they discontinued the easy-to-install dash-jack cable.

As for HU, looking at the Blaupunkt SD48 since I have no use or need for a CD player, I'd rather use SD cards. :-)

Sodium Duck
03-26-2009, 11:17 PM
The only other DIN sized CB out there really is the Uniden Pro 538W, but unfortunately it's about 9 inches long. Way too big for out dash. It's also the only other CB with a front firing speaker. The only option after that is export 10M radios, but they're a no no in America... sort of defeats the purpose of having a CB anyways.

There are a lot of non-standard CB's that would fit, but they don't have front firing speakers, and aren't wide enough. Blah.

Well good luck.

pariahdecss
03-27-2009, 11:54 AM
Sweet Denmark sourced goodness!! !! CTScott if you get your hands on the elusive 180mm part count me in

Sounds like Duck would want one too

Awesome I see that you were successful - Thanks for the effort - - I'll buy you some pizza and suds, and of course pay for the part . . .

CTScott
03-27-2009, 12:12 PM
Looks like a go with the 180mm trim!

Check out:
http://www.yarisworld.com/forums/showthread.php?t=15496

WolfWings
03-27-2009, 01:27 PM
Woot, signed up for it!

WolfWings
04-01-2009, 04:07 AM
Got a Wilson FGT 3' antenna on the way, and a new AM/FM 3' antenna. Gonna make a fake co-phase looking setup. lol

Forgot to ask, there a reason you're not just making a proper co-phase setup and use a CB->CB+AM/FM splitter? It's safe to split the AM/FM off of a CB setup, and works quite effectively. And a 'fake co-phase' setup will actually have worse reception and transmission for both CB and AM/FM compared to just a single antenna.

Sodium Duck
04-01-2009, 08:59 AM
Well, we'll see. But I doubt that having an antenna for CB and one for AM/FM 5ft. away will do worse than a CB+AM/FM splitter. There's no way. Everyone on my CB forum says they have used those splitters and that they suck eggs.

Besides, if I had a true co-phase setup then my signal would go good in only one direction, I want to project all around.

WolfWings
04-01-2009, 09:49 AM
First off: Co-phase doesn't turn your antenna into a Yagi. It's a mild tweak (http://www.everhardtantennas.com/tech_talk.htm) but it also reduces the power you waste broadcasting at passing airplanes. :-)

And I've found lots of crappy AM/FM/CB splitters, unless it's N-type input and seperate tuning screws for the N-type output and Motorola output, I won't touch em' for love nor money. I have no problem getting sub-1.3 tuning with a single 3' antenna from channel 1 through channel 40 on my CB through a FireStik AR-15 splitter, and it's wonderful reception for radio stations. :-)