View Full Version : so what are the chances i got screwed?
frownonfun
04-02-2009, 09:00 PM
Evan from Power Enterprise hasn't been on YW basically since i paid him and isn't replying to any of my messages either. So i thought i'd ask the masses, should i be worried or am i just being paranoid?
Bob_VT
04-02-2009, 09:14 PM
You don't have a telephone number?
I would contact the CC company until this gets cleared up.
I doubt you were intentionally screwed but some people just do not understand good business practices.
frownonfun
04-02-2009, 09:29 PM
I doubt you were intentionally screwed but some people just do not understand good business practices.
see this is kinda what i'm leaning toward. maybe he just hasn't checked his email. maybe it's been shipped but they don't feel a pressing need to let me know. maybe they are just happy selling one kit. idk. just seems to me if we all seemed a little hesitant to jump on board, this would be good opportunity to build some confidence for future potential customers. guess not.
and i don't if there's a number. he called me once but i didn't store the number right away and now its gone.
Kaotic Lazagna
04-02-2009, 09:58 PM
He's an authorized dealer of Power Enterprise, right? I highly doubt he wants trouble with the corp.
ruimond
04-02-2009, 10:14 PM
Don't know if you already went on the Power Enterprise Site. But maybe you could ring one of these numbers and ask for an "Evan". Im sure someone might know.
There seems to be two contacts for PE USA.
Power Enterprise USA Inc. (North America Sales Office)
17155 Von Karman Ave. Suite 108 Irvine, CA 92614
Phone: 949-752-0645 (Main)
Fax: 949-752-0646
Email: pwrusa@sbcglobal.net (OEM relations)
Contact: Power Enterprise USA Inc.
17155 Von Karman Ave. Irvine, CA 92614
Ph: 949-752-0622, Fax: 949-752-0646
Whole Sale: 949-752-0645
Accounting: 949-752-0622
Tech : 949-756-0322
Hope that helps. If you haven't already looked into that. :smile:
frownonfun
04-02-2009, 10:57 PM
Don't know if you already went on the Power Enterprise Site. But maybe you could ring one of these numbers and ask for an "Evan". Im sure someone might know.
There seems to be two contacts for PE USA.
Power Enterprise USA Inc. (North America Sales Office)
17155 Von Karman Ave. Suite 108 Irvine, CA 92614
Phone: 949-752-0645 (Main)
Fax: 949-752-0646
Email: pwrusa@sbcglobal.net (OEM relations)
Contact: Power Enterprise USA Inc.
17155 Von Karman Ave. Irvine, CA 92614
Ph: 949-752-0622, Fax: 949-752-0646
Whole Sale: 949-752-0645
Accounting: 949-752-0622
Tech : 949-756-0322
Hope that helps. If you haven't already looked into that. :smile:
i reckon i should try that tomorrow.
KCALB SIRAY
04-02-2009, 11:26 PM
I'll put it like this.....they should be all over you right now with all types of info regarding this order. Right now, you are the main thing in there lives at this point and they are dropping the ball in so many ways. I'm not going to tell you what to do, you're an adult, but this is not the way to be a rep for a company. I'm just wondering what type of support you will be getting once you receive it? Good luck!
jinxor
04-02-2009, 11:32 PM
Kcalb... we should try and be more positive about this...
I would be effin nuts if I couldnt contact someone whom I just gave 3.5k
Dont worry mate, I am sure he will get back to you... Try contacting Power Enterprises and find out about your order
KCALB SIRAY
04-02-2009, 11:39 PM
That's about as positive as it gets with "Evan", not the company. He does not represent his employer in the companies best interest by the way he conducts business. As I said, good luck and I hope you do get the support you deserve being a consumer.
Kaotic Lazagna
04-03-2009, 12:22 AM
I'd probably start contacting Power Enterprise head corp if I became really anxious. Like I said, they're probably going to give Evan hell for ignoring you.
frownonfun
04-03-2009, 12:27 AM
yeah i'm not all that worried right now... i'll call tomorrow... really it's only been a few days since i paid so for all i know he's got every intention of getting back to me but just hasn't yet. still, when you order something from a company, it seems standard to let them know what the status is on shipping and all that. but whatever. if i call tomorrow and get an "Evan, who's that?" then i might get concerned. lol. anyway half the reason i bought the kit is so we'd all just finally know. guess we'll see how this all plays out. hasn't gotten off to a great start imo.
Kaotic Lazagna
04-03-2009, 12:55 AM
Hopefully everything starts going uphill from here on.
frownonfun
04-06-2009, 08:51 PM
lol... asian chicks are so hot.
hmm so anyway i called PE and the woman told me he doesn't work there anymore. wow. that's comforting. anyway she said she will try to get a hold of him and find out what the deal is with my kit. hmmm.
yaris-me
04-06-2009, 09:06 PM
You should be worried.:mad:
Altitude
04-06-2009, 10:42 PM
hmm so anyway i called PE and the woman told me he doesn't work there anymore. wow. that's comforting. anyway she said she will try to get a hold of him and find out what the deal is with my kit. hmmm.
Ouch. Here's hoping everything works out OK for you.
FunctionSpec
04-07-2009, 02:45 AM
I'd be worried. Evan guy seemed sketchy from the beginning.
PE shouldn't have to call Evan to see what the deal is with your kit. They should have all the information they need when you guys made the transaction. Do they even have that information when you called them?
jkuchta
04-07-2009, 03:02 AM
Did you pay "Evan", or did you pay PE?
Sabretooth
04-07-2009, 07:50 AM
How did you pay to start?
If it was a check, cancel that thing NOW.
If it was Paypal, start filing a fraud report NOW.
You basically handed over $3,000 + to a ex-employee of a company whom you are purchasing a product.
If PE cant get ahold of this guy, its time to start taking some form of legal action.
How did you pay to start?
If it was a check, cancel that thing NOW.
If it was Paypal, start filing a fraud report NOW.
You basically handed over $3,000 + to a ex-employee of a company whom you are purchasing a product.
If PE cant get ahold of this guy, its time to start taking some form of legal action.
I agree. Best of luck to you.
frownonfun
04-07-2009, 10:34 PM
lol paypal is such a joke. that's why i stopped using them and ebay cause they could give a shit about you. i can't be too pissed about losing 3k because frankly i brought it on myself by going back to using their service. oh well it's only money.
"If this claim is decided in your favor, PayPal will make every effort to recover funds from the seller. We will investigate this matter fairly and, if you win, recover whatever funds we can."
that's the little tidbit most folks don't know... basically what they are saying is if the money isn't still in the other person's paypal account then you are fucked cause that's about as far as their authority reaches. which is funny to me cause if i was out to rip somebody off, why would i leave the money in my paypal account. god i hate paypal. more than i hate people like evan because they provide a venue for people like him. but yeah, life goes on. guess i'll start saving for the blitz from garm.
Altitude
04-07-2009, 11:03 PM
Don't let it go FOF - sick the law dogs on that jackass.
PETERPOOP
04-07-2009, 11:14 PM
Evan is one of the main reasons I didn't buy the kit.
wiirenet
04-08-2009, 12:54 AM
That's crazy. You really shouldn't just go "oh well my fault for using shitty paypal" I would fucking sue for 3k. Contact the company even if he doesn't work there anymore and freak them out. Maybe I'm just too poor, but idk even when I paypaled someone $10 and they took too long to ship something out, I was on their ass. Its not the amount its the principle of the matter of someone getting away with it.
lol paypal is such a joke. that's why i stopped using them and ebay cause they could give a shit about you. i can't be too pissed about losing 3k because frankly i brought it on myself by going back to using their service. oh well it's only money.
"If this claim is decided in your favor, PayPal will make every effort to recover funds from the seller. We will investigate this matter fairly and, if you win, recover whatever funds we can."
that's the little tidbit most folks don't know... basically what they are saying is if the money isn't still in the other person's paypal account then you are fucked cause that's about as far as their authority reaches. which is funny to me cause if i was out to rip somebody off, why would i leave the money in my paypal account. god i hate paypal. more than i hate people like evan because they provide a venue for people like him. but yeah, life goes on. guess i'll start saving for the blitz from garm.
Paypal will go into their bank account to get the funds. I was scammed for a laptop and Paypal recovered all of the money from their bank after the investigation. They had shutdown their Paypal account after they took the funds out.
KCALB SIRAY
04-08-2009, 09:35 AM
Frownonfun, if you need help tracking him down, I'm more than willing to help.
KCALB SIRAY
04-08-2009, 09:55 AM
Each state is going to be a little different as far as terms. Interstate commerce laws are bit more tricky, but he's already violated the terms of this agreement based on the claims and demands he has posted in here on this forum. It doesn't have to be a completed transaction to break the law, it just has to be said or implied, which there is record of such in this forum. Proving his intent is even harder, but with a good lawyer, pretty easy at that point.
BLAZINBLUEVITZ
04-08-2009, 10:07 AM
SO still no luck
???
ChinoCharles
04-08-2009, 10:25 AM
Unbefuckinglievable.
I find it very believable. Evan seemed like a tool.
Forrest
04-08-2009, 05:03 PM
That's a lot of money and this guy basically stole it. Is there a way to file charges in his area for this theft?
POORSHA
04-08-2009, 05:26 PM
If it were me I'd take a plane, then a taxi and wait outside the MFs house. 3 grand holy s**t!
ChinoCharles
04-08-2009, 05:50 PM
Good to know anyone can send a few bucks to our admins and scam people. I'm sure there will be some internal soul searching if this goes down how we fear it will.
supmet
04-08-2009, 05:53 PM
Good to know anyone can send a few bucks to our admins and scam people. I'm sure there will be some internal soul searching if this goes down how we fear it will.
I believe he was no longer a vendor when the sale went down... Probably because he wasn't working for them anymore..
Altitude
04-08-2009, 06:01 PM
This is so wrong.
I read that thread and he made some comment about 'no amount of money being worth jail time' - here's hoping he finds out just how true that statement was.
frownonfun
04-08-2009, 08:53 PM
well...
thanks for all the advice first off. right now i'm just trying to take all this in and be calm. there are a lot of unknowns right now and so i'm just trying to be patient and see how things pan out.
so far i've filed a dispute with paypal. this was then escalated moments later into a claim when paypal took me to a page that said he was unable to respond to the dispute. this made no sense to me whatsoever but whatever. a claim has been filed.
i also phoned PE again to ask them if they have talked to evan and the woman told me she had. and according to him paypal hasn't put the money in his account yet. (yes apparently i paid into his personal paypal account) i guess he is saying it hasn't processed. on my end, however, it indicates differently. this i tried to explain to the asian woman on the phone but she was little help. plus honestly it was hard to get mad at her sounding as adorable as she does. but aside from that they don't seem all that concerned with my situation so i doubt i'll get much help from them. so for now i'm not gonna press them... frankly talking to them seems like a waste of time.
i know someone in here was saying that paypal can go into your bank account. but i just can't share your faith in paypal. again i stress that's only if they have the money in their bank account. i used to buy and sell a lot on ebay and there was an instance where i didn't get what i ordered, filed a claim, and at the end of the day i was out about $300 dollars cause paypal was basically like "sorry, bub, we tried."
and as far as law dogs, well, it turned out this guy built up good feedback and then scammed like a whole bunch of people around the same time and so there was quite a case against him. but, it turns out, law enforcement is far less concerned with restitution than a conviction. so none of us ever saw a dime.
but im not totally pessimistic... or else i wouldn't even have asked you guys what you thought or filed a claim or called PE. i know i said oh well but really i just mean i'm not gonna get all stressed out and turn this into some mission from god to find evan. and right now i'm gonna let paypal handle this through their investigation of my claim. we'll see what they say and what he says and go from there i suppose. for all i know right now this is just some big misunderstanding.
jdinrc
04-08-2009, 09:47 PM
Each state is going to be a little different as far as terms. Interstate commerce laws are bit more tricky, but he's already violated the terms of this agreement based on the claims and demands he has posted in here on this forum. It doesn't have to be a completed transaction to break the law, it just has to be said or implied, which there is record of such in this forum. Proving his intent is even harder, but with a good lawyer, pretty easy at that point.
Don't forget that if he doesn't cough up the product, crossing state lines and doing this over the internet makes it Federal Wire Fraud as well as Larceny, and Federal means it's a case under the jurisdiction of the FBI. I wouldn't hesitate to contact the FBI and let PE know that you have. The FBI may even want to look at PE's records to see if he was doing this while he was still an employee, which could implicate PE as an accessory. Maybe PE will lean a little harder on this bum to prevent that kind of liability.
frownonfun
04-08-2009, 11:18 PM
You still have not told us how you paid. Credit card or bank transfer. Either way you go you will not be out your money. If you did a bank transfer then you are fdic insured and file a fraud report with your bank and if you paid credit then you can dispute the charges but you will more than likely need a police report to prove to either bank.
right. sorry. i paid w/ credit card.
and yeah just right this moment i don't wanna go contacting any law enforcement cause it just seems a little too early for that. i'm gonna try calling evan's cell (thanks to peterpoop) and email him a few more times to let him know i have filed the claim.
anyway thanks again for the help.
RHDVIPbB
04-09-2009, 12:12 AM
yikes. Sorry to hear. Maybe I am glad that I skipped on this and am buying a full kit from a Yaris owner in Europe.
wiirenet
04-09-2009, 02:35 PM
Can anyone link the original post this evan was selling the kits in? Just out of curiousity I want to read it.
http://www.yarisworld.com/forums/showthread.php?t=13372
frownonfun
04-09-2009, 09:51 PM
well i got a tracking number finally.
PETERPOOP
04-09-2009, 10:21 PM
Question is, are you tracking the kit, or a bag of potato chips?
frownonfun
04-09-2009, 10:41 PM
Question is, are you tracking the kit, or a bag of potato chips?
lol... yeah well it's a heavy bag of potato chips if it is. i don't know. me thinks that this is more a matter of terrible customer service really. i don't think Evan is that stupid. but i could be wrong. i hope i'm not.
PETERPOOP
04-09-2009, 11:06 PM
peter you need to add leanest air/fuel ration on a blitz s/c yaris to your signature!:laugh: Sorry for the off topic post.
Hope it all goes well glad to see he is following through.
Ill add once I put my wideband on and see if the readings are the same. The dyno guys measured from the tail pipe. I have a feeling my wideband will be more accurate (seeing it's right below the header).
bobselectric
04-10-2009, 12:05 AM
not for nothing, but I read the entire thread and I have to say that Evan is a real asshole towards the end there. If you are representing a product or a company, and you are trying to sell a new product to a new market, you don't get all up in anyones face about repetitive posts and start sending "caveatipse" messages to people. If he represented my company, he would have been fired around the sixth or early seventh page.
I, myself, am not in the market for a boost system, but if I ever am (c'mon lotto!) it definitely will not be A PE product
contraband831
04-10-2009, 01:25 AM
^ YUP!
tomato
04-10-2009, 03:02 AM
:eek: My goodness!!! :eek:
I just read the 18 pp thread (long read for someone like me who does not know anything about engines except when they go fast and when they don't, or when it's time to call AAA :wink: and of course I won't be able to offer you any technical advice, but what I get from that thread is that this Evan guy is an immature jerk (I'm being polite). Everything was going pretty smoothly in the beginning (BTW, pretty funny remark about using the unhappy poster's Yaris [I won't name her!] as a guinea pig, but I doubt she'd be happy with that idea :wink:) but I almost fell off my chair when I saw the bit about providing him a copy of your DL... SAY WHAT?!!! :barf:
In the future, the minute someone says something like
Originally Posted by Power Enterprise Evan
**UPDATE**
nyone outside the immediate So Cal area that DOES NOT go through one of PE's authorized dealers <b> will have to include a copy of their state DL and credit card (both sides) for insurance verification</b> that we will receive our videos, commentary, and dyno sheets. Those who fail to comply will be charged MSRP PLUS Fees for breaking contract rules....
on a thread, do yourself a favor and WALK AWAY FROM THE DEAL, whatever the deal is!!! :thumbdown: I mean it.
NOBODY should get a copy of anybody's DL online, WTF?!!! :hitcomputer:
The fact that he didn't want to take a credit card over the phone is also weird. Unless may be he was on a cell phone? I've never heard of a merchant or a dealer or manufacturer who couldn't take a credit card number over the phone. RED FLAG.
As to the sympathy you felt because he was taking a bit of heat from the forum members, well, that's what happens when you sell stuff online. I should know, I've sold stuff on e-bay before and you sometime have to work real hard to see listings through.
Times are tough for all of us, and since we're in a recession, we're entitled to be a bit more careful before parting with our hard earned $$$, so yeah, he has to work harder at selling the product but on the other end, we do too have to work harder at keeping our jobs lately, so it's hard for everybody. :iono:
Some posts appear to have been deleted but I could see him getting angry w/ Ryan at some point, after Ryan said he likes his Yaris as a DD. Can't handle criticism? hmmm. Later on he's telling people to get off "his thread" and shut up?!!! Hmmmm...
The comments left by the posters saying that the manufacturer could eat the cost of the first one so we know it works, were valid.
You are a good person, FrownOnFun, and I hope you get to have fun with your kit once you finally get it put it together on your car :headbang: but I'm not sure that guy even deserves your business. :mad:
Sorry for the long post, guys.
tomato
04-10-2009, 03:03 AM
not for nothing, but I read the entire thread and I have to say that Evan is a real asshole towards the end there. If you are representing a product or a company, and you are trying to sell a new product to a new market, you don't get all up in anyones face about repetitive posts and start sending "caveatipse" messages to people. If he represented my company, he would have been fired around the sixth or early seventh page.
I, myself, am not in the market for a boost system, but if I ever am (c'mon lotto!) it definitely will not be A PE product
+1
:eek: My goodness!!! :eek:
I just read the 18 pp thread (long read for someone like me who does not know anything about engines except when they go fast and when they don't, or when it's time to call AAA :wink: and of course I won't be able to offer you any technical advice, but what I get from that thread is that this Evan guy is an immature jerk (I'm being polite). Everything was going pretty smoothly in the beginning (BTW, pretty funny remark about using the unhappy poster's Yaris [I won't name her!] as a guinea pig, but I doubt she'd be happy with that idea :wink:) but I almost fell off my chair when I saw the bit about providing him a copy of your DL... SAY WHAT?!!! :barf:
In the future, the minute someone says something like
on a thread, do yourself a favor and WALK AWAY FROM THE DEAL, whatever the deal is!!! :thumbdown: I mean it.
NOBODY should get a copy of anybody's DL online, WTF?!!! :hitcomputer:
The fact that he didn't want to take a credit card over the phone is also weird. Unless may be he was on a cell phone? I've never heard of a merchant or a dealer or manufacturer who couldn't take a credit card number over the phone. RED FLAG.
As to the sympathy you felt because he was taking a bit of heat from the forum members, well, that's what happens when you sell stuff online. I should know, I've sold stuff on e-bay before and you sometime have to work real hard to see listings through.
Times are tough for all of us, and since we're in a recession, we're entitled to be a bit more careful before parting with our hard earned $$$, so yeah, he has to work harder at selling the product but on the other end, we do too have to work harder at keeping our jobs lately, so it's hard for everybody. :iono:
Some posts appear to have been deleted but I could see him getting angry w/ Ryan at some point, after Ryan said he likes his Yaris as a DD. Can't handle criticism? hmmm. Later on he's telling people to get off "his thread" and shut up?!!! Hmmmm...
The comments left by the posters saying that the manufacturer could eat the cost of the first one so we know it works, were valid.
You are a good person, FrownOnFun, and I hope you get to have fun with your kit once you finally get it put it together on your car :headbang: but I'm not sure that guy even deserves your business. :mad:
Sorry for the long post, guys.
Towards the end, he just started PMing me to call me an ass. Great customer service.
frownonfun
04-10-2009, 12:10 PM
not for nothing, but I read the entire thread and I have to say that Evan is a real asshole towards the end there. If you are representing a product or a company, and you are trying to sell a new product to a new market, you don't get all up in anyones face about repetitive posts and start sending "caveatipse" messages to people. If he represented my company, he would have been fired around the sixth or early seventh page.
I, myself, am not in the market for a boost system, but if I ever am (c'mon lotto!) it definitely will not be A PE product
yeah i hear what you are saying about evan. but i wasn't going to boycott PE because of him. i've had bad service at Chili's but that doesn't keep me from goin back to Chili's cause i love Chili's. so i didn't wanna lump the whole company in together just cause evan didn't know what he was doing. that'd be unfair i think.
on the other hand, after i actually called PE, i wasn't real impressed with them either. still it was them who gave me the tracking number not evan so i give them some credit for getting that to me. but not much.
:eek: My goodness!!! :eek:
I just read the 18 pp thread (long read for someone like me who does not know anything about engines except when they go fast and when they don't, or when it's time to call AAA :wink: and of course I won't be able to offer you any technical advice, but what I get from that thread is that this Evan guy is an immature jerk (I'm being polite). Everything was going pretty smoothly in the beginning (BTW, pretty funny remark about using the unhappy poster's Yaris [I won't name her!] as a guinea pig, but I doubt she'd be happy with that idea :wink:) but I almost fell off my chair when I saw the bit about providing him a copy of your DL... SAY WHAT?!!! :barf:
In the future, the minute someone says something like
on a thread, do yourself a favor and WALK AWAY FROM THE DEAL, whatever the deal is!!! :thumbdown: I mean it.
NOBODY should get a copy of anybody's DL online, WTF?!!! :hitcomputer:
The fact that he didn't want to take a credit card over the phone is also weird. Unless may be he was on a cell phone? I've never heard of a merchant or a dealer or manufacturer who couldn't take a credit card number over the phone. RED FLAG.
As to the sympathy you felt because he was taking a bit of heat from the forum members, well, that's what happens when you sell stuff online. I should know, I've sold stuff on e-bay before and you sometime have to work real hard to see listings through.
Times are tough for all of us, and since we're in a recession, we're entitled to be a bit more careful before parting with our hard earned $$$, so yeah, he has to work harder at selling the product but on the other end, we do too have to work harder at keeping our jobs lately, so it's hard for everybody. :iono:
Some posts appear to have been deleted but I could see him getting angry w/ Ryan at some point, after Ryan said he likes his Yaris as a DD. Can't handle criticism? hmmm. Later on he's telling people to get off "his thread" and shut up?!!! Hmmmm...
The comments left by the posters saying that the manufacturer could eat the cost of the first one so we know it works, were valid.
You are a good person, FrownOnFun, and I hope you get to have fun with your kit once you finally get it put it together on your car :headbang: but I'm not sure that guy even deserves your business. :mad:
Sorry for the long post, guys.
yeah he asked if i wanted to do the contract thing where i provide all this information just to save all of $300 but i didn't take it. i wasn't comfortable with providing a driver's license number or signing anything to be honest.
and yes i do realize you gotta take heat to sell but he wasn't selling and that is what had to be the frustrating thing i think. and not just for him but for all of us. if you thought the thread you read was bad you should read the original before that. the one that got locked. that one was pretty bad. at the end of the day though, asshole or not, i think a lot of us wanna know how this thing does.
Towards the end, he just started PMing me to call me an ass. Great customer service.
sorry bout that. i wasn't sure what was going on there because i guess some of the posts were deleted.
frownonfun
04-10-2009, 12:15 PM
who's your carrier? UPS Fedex DHL (i doubt it they're dead in the US)?If its Fedex ill keep an eye out for you if you want
the carrier is UPS. why, do you work for Fedex?
sorry bout that. i wasn't sure what was going on there because i guess some of the posts were deleted.
Not your fault. I had posted: "I believe adding an intercooler or any additional tuning will void the warranty" (or something around there)
He responded in a post that asked me to delete my intentional misinformation.
So I deleted it immediately, within 30 seconds of posting it.
He then proceeded to PM me 4 or 5 times to tell me how worthless I am, called me an ass, said that it's "people like me" who ruin the world, all this stuff.
I said "Come on now Evan, if you would actually look I deleted the post 30 seconds after I said it. I don't want to mislead anyone. It was just my impression that modifying any part of the system would void the warranty."
Then he PM'd me to call me an ass again.
frownonfun
04-10-2009, 12:37 PM
lol. damn. seems like a simple quote of your post and an explanation saying that it won't void the warranty would have sufficed. yeah he's something else. but now that you mention the intercooler, it does seem logical it might void the warranty. i do remember him saying changing the crank pulley would for sure.
guess it matters little now. it's beginning to seem like the warranty is gonna be pretty worthless anyway.
He said adding an intercooler doesn't void the warranty. That's why he flipped out on me.
You can find proof that he has said that it won't in the first PE thread that was closed.
bobselectric
04-10-2009, 05:24 PM
"yeah i hear what you are saying about evan. but i wasn't going to boycott PE because of him. i've had bad service at Chili's but that doesn't keep me from goin back to Chili's cause i love Chili's. so i didn't wanna lump the whole company in together just cause evan didn't know what he was doing. that'd be unfair i think.
on the other hand, after i actually called PE, i wasn't real impressed with them either. still it was them who gave me the tracking number not evan so i give them some credit for getting that to me. but not much."- frown on fun
believe me when I say that I am not one to condemn a company just because of one bad employee. I would have definitely contacted PE at the point where Evan was becoming an asshat and ask them if this was how they want their company portrayed. I would have sent a transcript if that was required just so they knew what their reputation was going through. It takes a lifetime to build a solid reputation, and minutes to tear it down.
mrbond
04-10-2009, 06:10 PM
He then proceeded to PM me 4 or 5 times to tell me how worthless I am, called me an ass, said that it's "people like me" who ruin the world, all this stuff.
I said "Come on now Evan, if you would actually look I deleted the post 30 seconds after I said it. I don't want to mislead anyone. It was just my impression that modifying any part of the system would void the warranty."
Then he PM'd me to call me an ass again.
Holy crap, for serious? This guy is out of control. Bad customer service always makes me so mad, and this is just ridiculous.
Frownonfun, definitely do a good inspection of each of the parts when the kit comes.
Geez.
BLAZINBLUEVITZ
04-10-2009, 06:33 PM
He then proceeded to PM me 4 or 5 times to tell me how worthless I am, called me an ass, said that it's "people like me" who ruin the world, all this stuff.
Then he PM'd me to call me an ass again.
he did the same thing with me trying to say i was ruining his topic and what not.....
Lafiro
04-11-2009, 03:13 AM
I highly suggest you get a video camera, record UPS going to the door, and infront of the driver, open the box, and record everything.... just incase.... you dont need to sign for something, have the driver leave, and then file a claim again later on that it was not what you ordered.... because then that will cause another issue, and you dont need that, so be careful.
Happened to me once(well twice, same item), and it saved me on a damaged item.
Bob_VT
04-11-2009, 10:46 AM
You know as soon as you get the kit..... IMO I would return it and go for a 100% refund and not tolerate the restocking fee bullshit.
Get away from the PE crap and go with what we all know works and is proven..... the standard supercharger that other members have installed.
I seriously would not even attempt to install it..... just return it.
mrbond
04-13-2009, 12:43 PM
I highly suggest you get a video camera, record UPS going to the door, and infront of the driver, open the box, and record everything.... just incase.... you dont need to sign for something, have the driver leave, and then file a claim again later on that it was not what you ordered.... because then that will cause another issue, and you dont need that, so be careful.
Happened to me once(well twice, same item), and it saved me on a damaged item.
I'd agree with this, just as a precaution. As that saying goes: better safe than sorry.
frownonfun
04-17-2009, 08:49 PM
well for those who don't know, i did receive the kit a few days ago. it came packaged pretty well in a professional looking PE box. and all the parts look new and undamaged so i guess all that's left to do is put it on.
tomato
04-17-2009, 08:53 PM
^ Well, that's a relief.
Sorry, can't help you at all with technical advice, but I'm still interested in what you're going to say about the before and after driving experience. Good luck with the install!
LtNoogie
08-08-2009, 12:17 AM
Did this kit ever get installed? After all the drama of the two closed threads, I still want to know if it was a good product.
frownonfun
08-08-2009, 08:15 PM
still not installed. partly cause the plans for mrbond and i to get together and put it on fell through and partly because i took my family on a 5000mile road trip that sucked up much of my yaris fund. the info i have to add is power enterprise is worthless, i was shorted the injectors that were meant to come with this kit, and my local toyota dealership claims that after "trying" to install this they have determined that the bracket that holds the supercharger does not fit.
all that said i still think someone with a little know how could certainly make this work. been talkin to someone who has a custom turbo charged neon (shudders) that says the guy who turbocharged his car could probably handle it. hopefully i can get with him before the summer is over and see whats what.
blacksandiegovitz
08-08-2009, 08:45 PM
still not installed. partly cause the plans for mrbond and i to get together and put it on fell through and partly because i took my family on a 5000mile road trip that sucked up much of my yaris fund. the info i have to add is power enterprise is worthless, i was shorted the injectors that were meant to come with this kit, and my local toyota dealership claims that after "trying" to install this they have determined that the bracket that holds the supercharger does not fit.
all that said i still think someone with a little know how could certainly make this work. been talkin to someone who has a custom turbo charged neon (shudders) that says the guy who turbocharged his car could probably handle it. hopefully i can get with him before the summer is over and see whats what.
Thanks for the update man although the project doesn't sound like its going so swelll @ least you got the kit(even if it was missing injectors) please keep up updated on your progress :thumbsup:
KCALB SIRAY
08-09-2009, 02:44 PM
And what does PE say about the missing injectors??
frownonfun
08-13-2009, 10:34 PM
nothing... i'd have to actually get a hold of them for them to tell me something.
u know whats funny is when i took my car to the dealership to see if they could put this on i told them the kit was short the injectors. i asked if they could just throw on some tc injectors but they didn't seem willing. anyway i left the car with them because they said they could put the kit on sans injectors and see how it goes. they call me like a half hour later to ask if i've already put the new injectors in. i ask why they would think that and they tell me it's because they don't think i have stock injectors. i was like what? are you kidding me? you service and repair toyotas for a fucking living and can't determine with any certainty if my injectors are stock or not. anyway i told them that unless someone broke into my car and did nothing but change out my injectors with better ones, i'm pretty sure they are stock.
KCALB SIRAY
08-14-2009, 11:25 AM
nothing... i'd have to actually get a hold of them for them to tell me something.
u know whats funny is when i took my car to the dealership to see if they could put this on i told them the kit was short the injectors. i asked if they could just throw on some tc injectors but they didn't seem willing. anyway i left the car with them because they said they could put the kit on sans injectors and see how it goes. they call me like a half hour later to ask if i've already put the new injectors in. i ask why they would think that and they tell me it's because they don't think i have stock injectors. i was like what? are you kidding me? you service and repair toyotas for a fucking living and can't determine with any certainty if my injectors are stock or not. anyway i told them that unless someone broke into my car and did nothing but change out my injectors with better ones, i'm pretty sure they are stock.
Wow, did you purchase new or used? If used, run a CarFax and see what comes up, you might have yourself a Black Market Yaris, lol JK. Good luck
frownonfun
08-20-2009, 08:52 PM
for those interested...
http://www.yarisworld.com/forums/showthread.php?t=21528
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