What class?

[coheed]

I was wondering what class everyone runs in SCCA and what mods you have. I ask cause I want to get into SCCA racing and whoop my friends in thier Hondas. :thumbup:

[mastaofdisasta]

I run autox in STS with exhaust strut bar and intake, im really outclassed with my stock Potenzas tho : (

[BLAZINBLUEVITZ]

so the stock potenzas suck for autox huh. guess i'll see how bad next month....

[Lazerdot]

I run ST which is about the same as STS, but in the Equipe Rapide group STS is 2 seats.

AFE Cold Air Intake
TRD Struts and Springs
TRD Rear Sway bar
TRD SS
TRD Exhaust
Just got my NST UD pulley
Konig 17/17.5
Kumo Exta MX 215/40

Still a bit of push in turns, need stickier tires to real well. Real fun anyway!!!

[yarstar]

Great question. I'm looking to start autocrossing myself this year. Which class would I run? Please refer to mods below.

[HTM Yaris]

The stock Bridgestones are not terrible , they just don't last long .

Here are the rules

http://cms.scca.com/documents/Solo_Rules/2009_Solo_Rules.pdf

and just look for your region

http://www.scca.org/home.aspx


Word to the wise , its better to learn on cheap tires . That way when you actually get sticky tires you will see huge improvements after you learn the handling characteristics of your car . Also I highly recommend a second set of wheel/tires just for autox only . You could probably do double duty (Full season autox and street driving) for a year on stock tires , but you will need new tires next year .

[anonymous user]

I was wondering what class everyone runs in SCCA and what mods you have. I ask cause I want to get into SCCA racing and whoop my friends in thier Hondas. :thumbup:

Bump, so did you ever go racing? And BTW, unless your friends drive like doodoo, hondas can't be easily beat by a yaris.

[Russelt3hPirate]

I'll be running in STS with the Yaris later this year hopefully. :)

[Tamago]

best thing you could ever do for you and your yaris. go to FSP :D

[Russelt3hPirate]

ARRGH-Comps!!

[Tamago]

ARRGH-Comps!!

Y'ARRRRRRRisCOMPS!

[Russelt3hPirate]

Wish that guys regamasters were 7". :(

[Lazerdot]

I run ST, which is similar to STS but not two seats. Equipe Rapide has a class list that you can compare to the modifications you make. I believe it is based on the SCCA rules. www.autocross.com/ER I hope this will help as well. Your header mod may move you up a class, not sure.

Greg

[Russelt3hPirate]

Great question. I'm looking to start autocrossing myself this year. Which class would I run? Please refer to mods below.

the TB is the only mod that may move you out of STS.

[Tamago]

I run ST, which is similar to STS but not two seats. Equipe Rapide has a class list that you can compare to the modifications you make. I believe it is based on the SCCA rules. www.autocross.com/ER I hope this will help as well. Your header mod may move you up a class, not sure.

Greg

STS2 is for two seaters
STS is for non two seaters
STX is for cars over 2.5L and/or helical LSD

[Russelt3hPirate]

STS2 is for two seaters
STS is for non two seaters
STX is for cars over 2.5L and/or helical LSD

that's assuming they follow SCCA Solo2 classing.

sounds like they don't.


OP,
lots of local clubs have variations on the SCCA classing based on the turnout.

example: shit tons of Turbo Civics on street tires show up they may enforce a SMS (street tire Street Modified) so the poor civics aren't up against the turbo AWD 285 tire equipped S4s.

[Lazerdot]

If you guys are right I may be able to put some headers on.

[kngrsll]

best thing you could ever do for you and your yaris. go to FSP :D

FSP should be scary... what are the fast cars in thatc lass now?

[anonymous user]

FSP should be scary... what are the fast cars in thatc lass now?

In my region there are only 2 cars in FSP. An accord and an old bmw 318i.

[anonymous user]

that's assuming they follow SCCA Solo2 classing.

sounds like they don't.


OP,
lots of local clubs have variations on the SCCA classing based on the turnout.

example: shit tons of Turbo Civics on street tires show up they may enforce a SMS (street tire Street Modified) so the poor civics aren't up against the turbo AWD 285 tire equipped S4s.

STS2 is for two seaters
STS is for non two seaters
STX is for cars over 2.5L and/or helical LSD

Tamago and russthepirate,

Per new scca solo classing rules, those are the correct new classes in my region as well. All previous STS classed cars are now ST class. All SM2 classed cars are now SSM i think? Anyway, you guys ordering new magnets may want to check the rules, as they have changed this year.
This was done so that scca could eliminate #'s from all classes, eg sts2, sm2, etc.

[LtNoogie]

I am going to start running CST here in the Los Angeles Area

CALIFORNIA STREET TOURING (CST):
Vehicles eligible for CST must comply with the rules of CSM, with the exception that all of the tires mounted on the car must have a TREADWEAR number of 140 or higher molded by the manufacturer on the sidewall.

CALIFORNIA STREET MODIFIED (CSM):
Vehicles eligible for CSM must be capable of being licensed for street use in California, shall be run on DOT approved tires and must meet all SCCA Solo Safety requirements.

[cali yaris]

If you take out the back seats, is it then a two-seater? :wink:

[LtNoogie]

No. 2-seater has to come from the factory that way. Besides I'm a 2 & 40% seater.:biggrin:

[kurokoma-kun]

Per new scca solo classing rules, those are the correct new classes in my region as well. All previous STS classed cars are now ST class. All SM2 classed cars are now SSM i think?

Same in my region, except we have a new STM class as well, basically SM on street tires. This is where I run, our largest and most diverse group.

Not many people in D- E- or FSP in my area lately, though CSP is still popular with the Miata drivers.

[Russelt3hPirate]

Tamago and russthepirate,

Per new scca solo classing rules, those are the correct new classes in my region as well. All previous STS classed cars are now ST class. All SM2 classed cars are now SSM i think? Anyway, you guys ordering new magnets may want to check the rules, as they have changed this year.
This was done so that scca could eliminate #'s from all classes, eg sts2, sm2, etc.

that's true, I forgot about the strange changes. :)

[anonymous user]

You guys know what i think is funny? We have about 95-130 participants at any given event, but nobody bothers to run in say STM for street modified. I'm thinking they can't be competetive with street tires, and everyone else has R-comps? It's just something i see in other regions, but nobody has decided to start up street tire classes in r-comp legal classes. Hmmm, just a thought.

[anonymous user]

Same in my region, except we have a new STM class as well, basically SM on street tires. This is where I run, our largest and most diverse group.

Not many people in D- E- or FSP in my area lately, though CSP is still popular with the Miata drivers.

DSP is a gigantic class here, maybe 12 or so at any given event. FSP has 2 cars, and ESP is a wrx with 285's and 2-3 camaros, and a few mustangs or cobras. CSP is a popular class here w/ miatas as well.

[justjesus]

I was wondering what class everyone runs in SCCA and what mods you have. I ask cause I want to get into SCCA racing and whoop my friends in thier Hondas. :thumbup:


Running essentially stock. Just pulleys. I went with HS class. Some little honda H/Bs were running in STS and were on average 10 seconds faster than me on the course. They were running 1.6L engines (Non-VTEC), header, what looked/sounded like straight pipe. Suspension wise, they looked to be fully done with Konis/Ground Control.

[Tamago]

If you take out the back seats, is it then a two-seater? :wink:

it's now in SM ;)

[mikenacarato]

They classed me in FSP

Engine - intake, pulleys, throttle body
suspension - lowering springs, miracle xbar, rear sway bar, front strut bar, room bar, aftermarket wheels/tires
interior - steering wheel with no airbag <---what put me in Prepared class, stocker is going back on next time

i did pretty well though, 2nd in my class yesterday :) my friends evo best time was 73.6, my friends sti best time was 71.4, the yaris busted out a 68.9 :)

[Tamago]

They classed me in FSP

Engine - intake, pulleys, throttle body
suspension - lowering springs, miracle xbar, rear sway bar, front strut bar, room bar, aftermarket wheels/tires
interior - steering wheel with no airbag <---what put me in Prepared class, stocker is going back on next time

i did pretty well though, 2nd in my class yesterday :) my friends evo best time was 73.6, my friends sti best time was 71.4, the yaris busted out a 68.9 :)

stay in FSP!!! buy some R comps, you'll LOVE IT!!

[Penguin Garage]

the xbar should put you in a prepared class not a street prepared class.

either way. congrats on beating your buddies. :D

[mikenacarato]

Thats the class the tech inpector put me in. as far as r compounds...ive got some 14" e30 bottlecaps at home that ive had for a while, i hope they fit the hub...they have 205/50/14 ecsta slicks on them lol

[TheRealEnth]

STS for me for now =P

[kngrsll]

STS for me for now =P

you should actually be in ST now... We ran ST with like focus, probes, integras, a few 240sx's.

STS is for CRX, Miata, stuff like that.

I kinda like to stay in class ST for now, but i kinda want to just do the mods i want (ie. LSD.) If i do that, ill have to get into FSP and get slicks. I will probably do that when i'm out of school.

[Lazerdot]

ST is a good class for lightly modifyed Yariss.

The Kumo Mx s I use are really hampering the times though. Great for wear and ok for AX but a better tire will make a hugh difference.

[Morgan]

...SM

Supercharger, Springs, Sway, RComps

I should do some more stuff, but I kept up pretty well with the class

[s3r3nity]

...SM

Supercharger, Springs, Sway, RComps

I should do some more stuff, but I kept up pretty well with the class

same for me, SM caus of the blitz anything modded with boost that is not by factory ends up in SM automaticly for starters.

i dont run with Rcomps, but i also manage pretty fair compared to the monsters in the class..

in no way that having the blitz gives an advantage, it's the complete opposite actually, the indexing in SM is killer for the extra 33-35 hp added.
it's not like i can crank the boost to 21lbs lol..

still tons of fun though!! :burnrubber:

[Tamago]

same for me, SM caus of the blitz anything modded with boost that is not by factory ends up in SM automaticly for starters.

i dont run with Rcomps, but i also manage pretty fair compared to the monsters in the class..

in no way that having the blitz gives an advantage, it's the complete opposite actually, the indexing in SM is killer for the extra 33-35 hp added.
it's not like i can crank the boost to 21lbs lol..

still tons of fun though!! :burnrubber:

you'd probably be 2 seconds faster on stock engine and on some Hoosiers :laugh:

[s3r3nity]

you'd probably be 2 seconds faster on stock engine and on some Hoosiers :laugh:

/agreed

[cali yaris]

what class would I be in, besides "lame beginner"? :smile:

[Tamago]

what class would I be in, besides "lame beginner"? :smile:

SM

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