question for those with audio systems

[frownonfun]

like what is it about your personalities that makes you think everyone else wants to hear your crappy ass music? really i don't get it. what are you trying to prove? i mean for god's sake your car sounds like its about to rattle itself apart. does that not seem somewhat excessive?

and just so everyone understands i don't mean those audiophiles that have upgraded their systems so that they sound more clear and crisp. i don't mean you guys. i understand wanting to have better quality. what i don't understand however is the need to be a rolling radio station. yes i get it ur super... gangsta, rockin, country... or whatever. now turn it down. nobody cares but you.

[dccurrent]

like what is it about your personalities that makes you think everyone else wants to hear your crappy ass music? really i don't get it. what are you trying to prove? i mean for god's sake your car sounds like its about to rattle itself apart. does that not seem somewhat excessive?

and just so everyone understands i don't mean those audiophiles that have upgraded their systems so that they sound more clear and crisp. i don't mean you guys. i understand wanting to have better quality. what i don't understand however is the need to be a rolling radio station. yes i get it ur super... gangsta, rockin, country... or whatever. now turn it down. nobody cares but you.

I never had the need to have my music blast at 130 db with people's car alarms going off within 2 blocks of my approach but I do need good quality sound. I hate crappy audio quality. I place the people you describe in the same category as those that have the obnoxiously loud mufflers. Actually I prefer overly loud stereos over mufflers. Extremely loud mufflers don't even provide a boost in performance. At least if a stereo gets as loud as you describe, it means it's probably pretty high quality.

One more thing: many times, those with very loud stereos are also very good at deadening and sound proofing their cars, so they don't want you to hear their music, they want the sound to stay in. Most people here I would say are not the type to hook up a massive amp and sub and drive around with the windows down to act like hot sh*t.

[TheUnGroomed]

A lot of people around here crank their bass up and don't give a damn about sound deadening. Several times a week while trying to sleep I hear people driving down the street with loud music and a severe rattle. I don't mind listening to other people's music while at red light because I know I won't be near them that long.

[frownonfun]

I never had the need to have my music blast at 130 db with people's car alarms going off within 2 blocks of my approach but I do need good quality sound. I hate crappy audio quality. I place the people you describe in the same category as those that have the obnoxiously loud mufflers. Actually I prefer overly loud stereos over mufflers. Extremely loud mufflers don't even provide a boost in performance. At least if a stereo gets as loud as you describe, it means it's probably pretty high quality.

One more thing: many times, those with very loud stereos are also very good at deadening and sound proofing their cars, so they don't want you to hear their music, they want the sound to stay in. Most people here I would say are not the type to hook up a massive amp and sub and drive around with the windows down to act like hot sh*t.

yes loud mufflers are annoying too. and i understand a need for quality sound and i guess if you are sound proofing your car then you probably aren't on my shit list so to speak. it's more so the people just sitting there with all four or two doors wide open blasting whatever it is they are blasting. no amount of sound proofing is going to account for that. seems like the car wash really really attracts these types of people for some reason. anyway i'm just venting because i don't understand that kind of blatant disrespect for others. especially when it's late at night and you are sitting in an apartment parking lot knowing full well there must be all kinds of different people on all kinds of different schedules living amongst you. and anyway it's not THAT cool that you have speakers. they are pretty common now actually. amps too. i think i seen them for sale at a few places. and how can you honestly expect me or anyone to believe that you are enjoying your music at that volume? there ain't no way.

[supmet]

I turn my stereo down around houses, and late at night, but - what's not to understand about cruising down the freeway, windows down, radio blaring?

[BailOut]

I turn my stereo down around houses, and late at night, but - what's not to understand about cruising down the freeway, windows down, radio blaring?
If everyone did that then the world would be a better place.

[jinxor]

I would leave it at individual's preference. Honestly, some ppl like that bass isnt that the reason why they install monstrous woofers in the first place.

[BailOut]

I would leave it at individual's preference.
Once it can be heard outside the vehicle it isn't individual anymore. Once it can be heard the next street over it's downright public.

[jinxor]

Its not like they are going to stand for a whole decade in front of you and play the music to annoy you with full bass...

Cmon.... A couple of seconds are a bit too much???

[jinxor]

I honestly dont understand this...

Why do ppl love when a Ferrari roars past them... you would go "Oh nice... that is wow"
but the same with exhaust system on other cars... you start complaining...
If the high music pours outside the pubs, no one minds... but outside a car... "ooo... i hate that"

[sqcomp]

*meh*

I'm one of those guys that keeps my music to myself.

I suppose I am not qualified to comment since I'm not a basshead.

[frownonfun]

Its not like they are going to stand for a whole decade in front of you and play the music to annoy you with full bass...

Cmon.... A couple of seconds are a bit too much???


yeah the couple of seconds isn't really my complaint. it's those that camp out places with their music blaring. it's ridiculous. suppose my personal preference is to stand outside and play flamingo lips on my cornet at 11pm. don't get me wrong i don't know too many who don't think that's a catchy little tune but to be out in public at night or even in the day wailing on a musical instrument is absurdly rude. and that's essentially what you are doing when you turn your stereo up too obscene levels and chill or kick it with your homies or vaqueros or whatever. it's rude. there is no getting around it.

I honestly dont understand this...

Why do ppl love when a Ferrari roars past them... you would go "Oh nice... that is wow"
but the same with exhaust system on other cars... you start complaining...
If the high music pours outside the pubs, no one minds... but outside a car... "ooo... i hate that"

if a ferrari roars by i'd probably still be a little annoyed. but then again i'm not really complaining about exhausts or engine noise. sometimes these things can't be helped. like harleys and such. it's just how some things are made. there's no volume button really. so i deal with it. but stereo noise isn't as unavoidable.

and a pub where people go specifically to hear music and hang out is way different than forcing everyone in the area to listen to your new nickelback cd. not even close to the same. no one minds because it's what pubs are supposed to do. just like no one minds when an emergency vehicle goes flying by sirens blaring. then again if i stuck a siren on my car and drove around town blasting it i suspect people would be annoyed.

[bikegerm]

Sometimes I just like it loud !! I'm sorry if it offends you. I work in a studio, I check my work in my car. My clients listen loud and they listen soft. I have to make sure what I do translates at all levels: 30db - 110db. Sometimes the music just "Cries" to be played loud and sometimes it's just wants to "whisper". If you don't like my level, close your windows or I'll be past you or the light will turn green in a few minutes. What a trivial thing to concern yourself with. I think you probably have better things you could be worrying about.

[jinxor]

lolz... that just sums it up

[sqcomp]

...actually the exaust notes are VERY controlable. Just don't twist the throttle or floor the gas...

Yes, bassheads are annoying. That's why they get tickets when the police feel like doing so.

Personally I understand your apathy. Railing on the disrespectful waterheads is like asking teenagers not to race, fight, or curse. It doesn't work well. It's a phase for the most part.

[CompanyXPaladin]

I blast my music on the freeway, and turn it down in traffic, at lights, and in residential areas. HOWEVER, if someone pulls up next to me blasting music that I don't want to hear, I usually turn up my stereo.

[frownonfun]

i love how "because that's what i feel like doing" sums it up. like that's really any kind of justification for being rude.

and my supercharging an econobox, while impractical and silly in many ways, really shouldn't bother anyone to the point of annoyance.

but anyway... i'll stop complaining because i'm sure everyone will agree this thread is pretty pointless.

[sqcomp]

I'm wondering if the supercharging kit REALLY makes our engine any where near a smog machine...

[cali yaris]

well hey... he got 26+ posts from a rant, (which he's entitled to do)... :clap:

[frownonfun]

lol. wow. really? smog machine? that's a a stretch. i don't know maybe some may buy that as a valid point but i don't. firstly because i bet it will still pass and secondly, i work in the oil and gas industry. when i first started i was pipelining and now i work at a plant that stores NGLs. it sits right next to a fractionation plant. i see shit everyday that would make environmentalist have heart attacks on the spot. so no i don't think i'm being rude by throwing a kit on my ULEV-II yaris. sorry.

[ChinoCharles]

Easy. The reason is ego. Tell me you didn't have one when you were a youngster and I'll tell everyone else Yarisworld has a new liar!

Now, if you're bumping in a parking lot at 40, its time to start worrying.

[frownonfun]

Easy. The reason is ego. Tell me you didn't have one when you were a youngster and I'll tell everyone else Yarisworld has a new liar!

Now, if you're bumping in a parking lot at 40, its time to start worrying.


there's an answer i can live with. anyway it's like i said i was just venting. i'm over it now. not really but still, i'm ok with it for now.

[pariahdecss]

Hah! I resemble that remark - you crazy kids these days with your infernal rock 'n' roll music, when I was a kid I had an AudioVox® Radio with 5W RMS and I was glad to have it - none of this 1,200W RMS per channel ear rupture wattage wired to dual 15's

Now get off my lawn!! - Retro FTW

http://www.nostalgiasounds.com/images/9zm.jpg

[ChinoCharles]

My ego is 700 watts RMS. :laugh:

[pariahdecss]

. . .but it used to be 1,200W RMS - you're all grown up and mature now

[sqcomp]

I hear that...

We have an Image Dynamics rep that we put the system in his car...He's around 55 and demos eminem. It's REALLY pitiful...and creepy.

Maybe I'm jealous, I just listen to well recorded, well mixed music.

[Creeper]

huge problem here is with the caprice and old impalas and box chevys on the 24's and the duel 12's in the back with there 2 thousand watt amps going down the road sound system and rims worth 10 times what the car is and all you can hear is mettle grinding and nuts and bolts coming lose. actually had one whos license plate rattled off the car infront of my work. was actually pretty funny to watch

[IsLNdbOi]

It would be nice if cars with blasting, blaring music would just spontaneously combust.

[sqcomp]

...naw...

just the operators of said vehicles need to combust. Otherwise that'd be a great waste of a useable vehicle!

[Lively]

Sometimes I just like it loud !! I'm sorry if it offends you. I work in a studio, I check my work in my car. My clients listen loud and they listen soft. I have to make sure what I do translates at all levels: 30db - 110db. Sometimes the music just "Cries" to be played loud and sometimes it's just wants to "whisper". If you don't like my level, close your windows or I'll be past you or the light will turn green in a few minutes. What a trivial thing to concern yourself with. I think you probably have better things you could be worrying about.

Have fun now It won't be long before you need hearing devices for anything below 85 db.(like me)

[goku87]

I turn my stereo down around houses, and late at night, but - what's not to understand about cruising down the freeway, windows down, radio blaring?

+1 :thumbsup:

...and a pub where people go specifically to hear music and hang out is way different than forcing everyone in the area to listen to your new nickelback cd...

Did you know that if all of nickelback died that all wars in the world would end, and all of mankind would live in peace forever and all of eternity?

[frownonfun]

+1 :thumbsup:



Did you know that if all of nickelback died that all wars in the world would end, and all of mankind would live in peace forever and all of eternity?


lol. i think pop music as a whole would probably have to disappear for this to happen. but getting rid of nickelback would be a good start.

[cali yaris]

ok, so here's my bit of rant for ya.

...I don't give a crap if some youngster thinks I'm creepy for bumping music (responsibly) and modding my car. I don't care if anyone thinks I'm "too old" for this -- it's my fun to have.

We have an Image Dynamics rep that we put the system in his car...He's around 55 and demos eminem. It's REALLY pitiful...and creepy.

You posted that on a public message board, behind his back, but probably didn't say it to his face. So, he's too old and you have no balls. Which is worse?

[ok, ranting is kinda fun, but I'm done for a while]

[eTiMaGo]

Garm, you're not afraid to let your inner teenager out :biggrin:

Personally I don't have great hearing, I can't really stand loud noises for too long, so I tend to listen to music in my car at a reasonable level... Heck, the loudest music ever played was when my dad came here and got a new Thai country music CD and cranked it :laugh:

[cali yaris]

Thai country music? oh please share an mp3 with us... :wink:

[ChinoCharles]

LOL, you go Garm!

[sqcomp]

Oh come on Cali...

If you knew me, you wouldn't have said that. Thank you for the compliment though calling me "youngster". It is quite possible that I'm older than you.

Ol boy (literally) has ruined the sound in his setup due to his lack of control and constant "tinkering" with his system. The other downfall for this guy is that he has no self control. He has multiple DUIIs in this NICE demo vehicle and smokes like a chimney.

Oh, and yes, I have called him out on these points...TO HIS FACE. He readily admitted that he has to have the shop re-tune the vehicle and how bad the police are around his area because they "pick" on him.

Well...If I'm on patrol and I know a local wino is in front of me, I'm going to use common sense and let the alcohol bring him down.

As for me having the nuts? Again, if you knew me you wouldn't say that. But you don't, you don't know my experience, you don't know what I do professionally. I haven't called you out personally and until now I respected what you say when it comes to anything audio. This is unfortunate.

[cali yaris]

ooh game on.. lol

until now I respected what you say when it comes to anything audio.

Why? I don't know anything about audio.

I'm glad you said that his demo-ing of eminem at a loud volume was "really pitiful and creepy" to his face. That was your post. AND your post attached that to his AGE, there's no denying this point.

now you post this, which has NOTHING to do with his age, as some sort of explanation for the previous post.

Ol boy (literally) has ruined the sound in his setup due to his lack of control and constant "tinkering" with his system. The other downfall for this guy is that he has no self control. He has multiple DUIIs in this NICE demo vehicle and smokes like a chimney.

How is that even connected to what you said before? Sorry man, makes no sense. :iono:

You can have your balls back though -- if you really said what you quoted yourself as saying.

[sqcomp]

...Simply because that was part of the conversation at the time the rep was complaining about his system.

He started railing on the Vancouver PD for pulling him over two nights previously for the...THIRD DUII.

Having experience in both professions he was railing on, I absolutely know it was he alone who had messed up his system and demos Eminem to the younger kids because he thinks that's all they listen too.

My original point was to give an example of ignorance at it's worst.

I apologize that it made no sense, it was part of the actual conversation while he and I were talking about the setup of the car at the shop. Then I took the car in and helped tune it...now I hear he can't drive it anymore. Guess why?

[mastaofdisasta]

like what is it about your personalities that makes you think everyone else wants to hear your crappy ass music? really i don't get it. what are you trying to prove? i mean for god's sake your car sounds like its about to rattle itself apart. does that not seem somewhat excessive?

and just so everyone understands i don't mean those audiophiles that have upgraded their systems so that they sound more clear and crisp. i don't mean you guys. i understand wanting to have better quality. what i don't understand however is the need to be a rolling radio station. yes i get it ur super... gangsta, rockin, country... or whatever. now turn it down. nobody cares but you.



gtfo my yaris world. dont bash, dont hate, dont talk.

[mr. poopyhead]

the same reason why people try to get 200W of power out of their crappy ipod earbuds...

if all i hear is distortion from 20ft away, then you're an idiot... i hope they go deaf...

[IsLNdbOi]

He has a point. What makes you think others want to listen to your music? Common courtesy, people.

[ChinoCharles]

Posts deleted, OP PMed. Sorry about that folks, back to your regularly scheduled programming.

[frownonfun]

gtfo my yaris world. dont bash, dont hate, dont talk.

interesting point. i'll definitely mull that over.

[frownonfun]

Posts deleted, OP PMed. Sorry about that folks, back to your regularly scheduled programming.


so who got a PM? what did i miss? dang this blasted day job, i always miss the drama.

[IsLNdbOi]

I weep for the future of the country and of the English language.

[cali yaris]

^ I think there is a mistake with your syntax :smile:

but anyways....
Then I took the car in and helped tune it...now I hear he can't drive it anymore. Guess why?

I'm sure you made a 1000% improvement. I have read your posts and have been impressed with your knowledge of mobile audio. Like I said, it's not my thing; at least I know better than to fiddle with the knobs.

[IsLNdbOi]

^ I think there is a mistake with your syntax :smile:

but anyways....


I'm sure you made a 1000% improvement. I have read your posts and have been impressed with your knowledge of mobile audio. Like I said, it's not my thing; at least I know better than to fiddle with the knobs.

Even if there is a grammatical error, it's still not as bad as some of the posts I read around here everyday.

[cali yaris]

^ that's for sure... umm... fo sho!

[sqcomp]

I didn't improve it 1000%. I put it back to where the customer wanted it before he screwed it up.

The car needs a bit more tweaking, it could use a layer of Ensolite over the entire car, the two way CXS64 needs a midrange and needs to go to an active crossover setup. The soundstage is a bit low even with the tweeters in the a pillar. The aiming of the tweeters (and the mid bass as well) should be slightly different. Time alignment would help as well...

Still for most listeners, it is a VERY nice soundsystem. At this point, it's better that mine...since I'm stock...my equipment is gathering in a cubby whole at the shop.

[talnlnky]

like what is it about your personalities that makes you think everyone else wants to hear your crappy ass music? really i don't get it. what are you trying to prove? i mean for god's sake your car sounds like its about to rattle itself apart. does that not seem somewhat excessive?

and just so everyone understands i don't mean those audiophiles that have upgraded their systems so that they sound more clear and crisp. i don't mean you guys. i understand wanting to have better quality. what i don't understand however is the need to be a rolling radio station. yes i get it ur super... gangsta, rockin, country... or whatever. now turn it down. nobody cares but you.

completely understand why you are ranting.... but don't think coming into this forum to post what you did is really the proper way to go about venting. I could do the same thing in the "performance" section of this forum and complain about many peoples exhaust setups. Would end up pissing off 90% of the people in that part of the forum too... and solving squat.

Comes off very aggressive.

[frownonfun]

completely understand why you are ranting.... but don't think coming into this forum to post what you did is really the proper way to go about venting. I could do the same thing in the "performance" section of this forum and complain about many peoples exhaust setups. Would end up pissing off 90% of the people in that part of the forum too... and solving squat.

Comes off very aggressive.

yeah i think passive aggressive is an accurate description of the behavior i'm exhibiting by pointlessly venting about something on an internet forum instead of addressing the problem directly. but oh well. no one every said venting made sense. it just makes you feel better to get it out sometimes.

[talnlnky]

Obviously it was not where he wanted it if he screwed it up messing with it.
.
Dude doesn't understand where it was... or where he wanted it... Dude only knows relative comparisons like "I want more".

when it comes to almost anything.... and especially audio equipment...
People don't mean to mess stuff up, they just get greedy and want more and more, and don't realize what they are doing.

dude wanted a volume knob that went to infinity, tried to "tweak it" so he could get that, but had no understanding of waves (electronic signals) and probably just as little knowledge on acoustics. Classic story, see it in most cars fitted with dual 12's. (yes that's a stereotype.... one that exists for a reason)

Simply put, people are really ignorant, (usually by choice). I have all the sympathy in the world for people who are not educated, but none for those who CHOSE to be ignorant.

[sqcomp]

Well, after that little message from you camelll...I suppose I wouldn't want to do any work on your vehicle just as much as you wouldn't want me to. BUT you wouldn't know what shop I'm at and you probably wouldn't come to it because it's not a big box retailer. The difference is that if you DID come in to the shop REGARDLESS of what I thought about you personally, I can separate my feelings about you from the job you pay me to do. My first install was on a 1996 Dodge Viper which was owned by an adult film movie producer. Yeah he was a bit slimy, but in the end, he had the system he asked for, it was installed very well, AND it came in below the quoted price.

The shop does work for this drunk rep because he pays us to...because the installers and owners are very VERY good. I won't speak for my work because I simply don't have to justify my work to you.

Your speculations however are a little off the mark. He messed with his system because he thought he might get better ambiance, linear sounstage presence, and better tonality. Well, he didn't get it in the way he thought he could and he didn't know how to get back to ground zero. This client also only REALLY knows about the subjective numbers and abilities of his line. If there are special "tricks" (techniques) that require thought or foreknowlege...he cannot operate effectively. I won't give this rep any free work because at that point (being a salesman) he'll expect my labor to be free simply because the shop buys the product he reps. Uhhh...nope, there will be other reps and I can almost guarantee that they won't be as misguided as he is at his age. To finish the thought, what would cure his setup of it's ills would be, like I mentioned, a midrange up in the a pillar, slight repositioning of his tweeters and the forementioned midrange, an active crossover setup, a better EQ (not in the source unit), and some time alignment.

Now, the moment my I am content with my setup...this means I loose. I cannot afford complacency. I am always looking to improve through whatever means don't break the IASCA SQ rules. The difference between myself and the drunk rep is that I am looking and planning beyond/outside the box so to speak...the rep isn't able to do his own work and/or has outdated ideas that I know do not work in the application he wants.

Whether you respect what I say about audio or not makes no difference to me. What I bring to the table is a good bit of experience and practical knowlege. I'll never see you in the IASCA SQ lanes and you'll never pay attention to good advice that I give. I think it's a good deal.

I'm glad to recieve the insinuation that you don't have any negative thoughts about anyone that works or is a client in your field. You must be hard pressed to cover your angelic wings up!

...yeah...

I can pretty much be assured you're a hypocrite on that last point. At least I don't hide my scorn for a drunk industry rep who could get lost trying to find his way out of a wet paper bag over his head. To reinforce my thoughts on this subject, tell me my good fellow, where did you see me complain about any other clients on this post?

Yes, I do rail on some of the competitors for sloppy work. Taln will attest to that, I railed on Car Toys in general when one of his good friends works for the company. A lot of times clients like to shop the competition and then end up coming back because they got screwed, either by faulty equipment or a very suspect install. Guess what? I CAN rail on it because I see the end results coming to me.

[talnlnky]

How in the hell do you not know where or what you want out of your audio system and how would you know what the guy knows or thinks? The guy is an audio rep I am sure he has some knowledge of car audio but to what extent :iono:. I am not saying he is a genius or anything but I am sure of the sound he wanted was not there. I am only speculating on his behalf but I am certain the audio was not where he wanted it or he would not have messed with it. If your audio is set up where you want it do you mess with it???????????????????????? EXACTLY

audio rep = sales guy

90+ % of the sales people i've met don't know very much past what they have read in the propaganda that is given to them from the distributors & product companies.

[MadMax]

Anyhow, back to the original topic...

I gotta turn my music up real loud to listen to it! Why, because I am frigging deaf from listening to loud music when I was younger!

Seriously, all it takes is a little "situational awareness" if you driving around with your music up load. It is worse in an open Jeep because 1) everyone can hear your music because there is nothing containing it, and 2) the stereos on my Jeeps are crap!

So, when I am driving down the road I keep the volume up a bit; but in traffic I turn it down (usually). Sure, sometimes I "share" my ZZ Top or AC/DC with others; but if I notice someone being bothered by it I turn it down. Trust me, it is easy to tell from their dirty looks!

And therein lies the problem with these thump-thump chumps and their bass monster stereos, they derive obvious pleasure from their annoyance of others! They somehow think their distorted music is impressive, but I would expect anyone other than a pre-pubescent teenager thinks it is annoying. Same holds true for those embarrassing fart cans that are so prevalent on ricers, they are not performance enhancing and if anything are detrimental to the engine. But it is funny to hear one wind up (sounds like a bee in a coffee can) and the car is still not going anywhere fast! I occasionally succumb to my "inner teenager" when I am in the Jeep and show them how fast the Wrangler's 4.0L I6 really is, just to embarrass the runny-nosed punks a bit. But that usually costs me $5 in gas to do so....

Cheers! M2

[sqcomp]

...The day you could knock me anywhere would be a cold day in hell. Flexibility is an attribute I have fun with. I work very well in any control point. Don't worry; you don't know what that means. Get to Bettendorf and you MAY have an inkling...

As for the 300c it's a nice show car. I don't see any pics of any SPL championships or IASCA, USACI, or MECA championship trophies by that 300c. You won't show me any either. It's a vehicle made for show. Too bad the shop doesn't have a website...

I really do appreciate the 300c BUUUUT it's not your work or your car. Again, I won't see you standing in the SQ lanes.

This is the last shop that I came from:

http://www.oregonsoundchoice.com/

Call it if you want, ask for Rich Clapp (the owner). If you'd like, ask him if Jim H. ever worked with him. A lot of our clients do not wish to be placed at least by name in the public's eye. As backwards as you might think I am, I won't give them up to satisfy any curiosity. There are some 2008 installs he may have up that I don't have some installation or participation in...

That is because the new shop has been started.

Personally I couldn't care less what products you use, It's not the products I'm dogging. It's the person. The ID rep is a lush, pure and simple. I don't enjoy dealing with salespeople who can't control themselves. There is ABSOLUTELY nothing wrong with that.

...The bassheads can spontaneously combust after 10pm and before 8am. How's that for a middle ground? My previous statement stands. To reiterate, I can separate my personal feelings from the work I do. I'm glad to read that you are indeed angelic and without ANY negative sentiment whatsoever. I live in reality though. Everyone does indeed make mistakes...but three times? Three times this guy has put himself behind the wheel of a deadly weapon? That does literally in DEED make him a scum. Sorry to keep it so real. If he had killed or injured you or one of your friends, family...whatever, you might understand my side. Maybe that's how you live, in a world that everything is perfect. People that don't take responsibility for their own actions need a twist to realign their head squarely.

To show that I'm not a total hater on the bassheads, pay attention to this forum over the next couple months...you'll understand.

[Spades]

to get this back on the original topic...my system sounds nice. I don't crank it after dark or when going through residential areas. I don't have it loud anywhere I am worried about someone hearing it and breaking into the car to steal my goodies.

I DO crank it when I show it off to people. I DO crank it when I am cruising on a back road or the highway. I DO crank it when some POS Honda rolls up behind me playing ghetto rap through a blown 10".

oh yeah, and I DO crank it when someone tells me I need to turn it down. go ahead and flip me off...I have earplugs in my center consol...I will make your rear view mirror shake...

[sqcomp]

...I didn't think you'd understand about Bettendorf, don't worry about it. It's a "position" thing.

And no, I won't see you in the SQ lanes. You won't be there. There's a difference between a God complex and reality. The latter is where I am. I know I'll never have enough expertise to be equal to your audio toys shop but hey, I'm okay with that. My work speaks for itself. There's nothing like the feel of an exotic that you've done work on. But hey, it's no 300c. Those clients trust me with their babies...and will continue to do so because of the care, attention to detail, and expertise I bring.

When karma has an opportunity to come back to me on this subject, I'll do juuuuuust fine. I'm not worried about it. I've been around the block several times.

Again, I don't hate some of the people I've done work for (for the most part), thier decisions on the other hand, that's another story. We just disagree on whether thinking that when people do bad things they should be called out on it. I don't have a problem with it, I don't cower behind the idea of being soft spoken and demure to rake in a dollar. You pay for my advice (which you won't), you'll get my professional advice. You ask my opinion, oh I'll tell you, no worries on that.

As far as the alchoholic rep, he can't drive anymore for a while. We're actually storing his car at the shop to use for demos. Anything wrong with that picture? Nope. I've told him what I think of his drinking and driving. We've moved on. We order from Image Dynamics and will continue to do so. We sell a lot of ID's equipment and will continue to do so. That company makes great equipment, it's not them I have a perosnal issue with.

To keep with the topic (finally), you'll see a project vehicle over the next few months that totally flips what you think that I believe about bassheads...

I have pictures and video now but it's all the dissasembly and sounddamping (boring) stuff. It's a nice little shop car that we're using with Exile Audio to demo their product. Stand by for some pics over the next few months.

[Mobius1]

This is the worst thread ever

[talnlnky]

This is the worst thread ever

agreed.

[frownonfun]

agreed.

what?! you must not be reading the same thread i am. this is pure gold.

anyway since this thread has lost any hope of redemption, i'm gonna ask another question...

what's with cops in these unmarked police cars!? it's so annoying to be speeding down the road weaving in and out of traffic just to see some freakin malibu pull out onto the road with lights flashing. and yes i know it kinda doesn't matter i'm still in the wrong no matter who is pulling me over but still, it's annoying. and really if stupid ass people wouldn't drive side by side blocking all three lanes going 5 to 10 miles slower than the speed limit i wouldn't have to speed up and weave between them.

[sqcomp]

Yeah...It's partly my fault too.

I apologize for that. Just a big argument over semantics really...

[pariahdecss]

agreed - this thread has me questioning my faith in humanity . . . and it just won't die

oh wait I am partially to blame for that

[Slick]

LOOOUUUUDDDDD NOIIIIIISSSSEEEEEESSSSSSS!!!!!!!
WHAT ARE WE YELLING ABOUT?????

Sorry, I just finished q-tiping the blood out of my ears. lol.







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