Twin turbo dual exaust yaris 1NZ-FE setup?

[CtrlAltDefeat]

I was reading about turbo 3-cyl Daihatsu Charades and suddenly had a thought. The turbos on those things were pretty small... I wonder if you can run 2 small turbos off 2 cyl each of the 1NZ-FE? Like 2 turbo 2 cyl engines on a single crank. If setup right, I think the opposing cylinder would be on the power stroke while the 1st cylinder was on the exhaust stroke. I'm not sure if I'm explaining it properly so i snatched some pics off the web and drew it. Forgive the craptacular picture but I'm in a hurry and my 'shop' skill sux. Obviously the pipes would have to be equal length and as straight as possible but I think 2 Y shaped headers and 2 Y shaped turbo to to intake pipes would work.. with each turbo only working with 2 cyl I think they could be small enough to fit in the engine bay and still make plenty of power... Just some random thoughts of a engine noob... If this makes no sense what so ever, please let me know, and why. Seems like it might work pretty good... :iono:

[cali yaris]

first things first... move this to forced induction!

[eTiMaGo]

LOL aye aye cap'n

I like the idea... with some teeny tiny turbos it could be done...

But, is it really necessary? seeing the results Garm got with his small turbo, it's pretty darn responsive and good for about 180whp, i don't think the added complexity is really required... but for bragging rights, can't touch a twin-turbo Yaris :laugh:

[CtrlAltDefeat]

LOL aye aye cap'n

I like the idea... with some teeny tiny turbos it could be done...

But, is it really necessary? seeing the results Garm got with his small turbo, it's pretty darn responsive and good for about 180whp, i don't think the added complexity is really required... but for bragging rights, can't touch a twin-turbo Yaris :laugh:

Yea, I can see the twinturbo badge I'd slap on the back now *goose bumps*:drool:
(oh and sorry for the mis-file for the topic...:redface:)

[CtrlAltDefeat]

thinking about it, I wonder what will happen to the turbo during the compression and power stroke when both (ok ok all 4 :laugh:) valves are closed... must be ok, since I'm sure there are turbo 2-cyl engines out there... aren't there? :iono:

[Nexus1155]

if you want to spend all of the money on fab work and use GT12's and be unique, thats cool. But if you want the engine self imploding on itself and tearing a black hole in the space time continium thats cool tool....

[CtrlAltDefeat]

if you want to spend all of the money on fab work and use GT12's and be unique, thats cool. But if you want the engine self imploding on itself and tearing a black hole in the space time continium thats cool tool....

geez it's only a 1.5L... I think you'd need at least a 2.0L to damage the continuum :laugh:

[Russelt3hPirate]

geez it's only a 1.5L... I think you'd need at least a 2.0L to damage the continuum :laugh:

the VAG 1.8T has already proven it can.

[Mouse]

It's been done on a 1.8 miata.....http://www.miataturbo.net/forum/t17065/

[marcus]

its gonna open a black hole..hmmmmm.

[Mouse]

I can't find pics of it now.....but a while back I found a pic online of what looked like a supra motor that had 6 turbos on it....It didn't have an exhaust manifold since each turbo was bolted on to the block itself. They were super tiny turbos.

[anexrx7]

geez it's only a 1.5L... I think you'd need at least a 2.0L to damage the continuum :laugh:

Well I've seen alot of 1.3 liters do some pretty nasty things... Mine is only ~350hp right now. Only wish it got the fuel efficiency of a yaris, or even my full size Chevy.

As far as the twin turbo goes, that's interesting, It would be neat to find out how well they would spool up with the pulse like that, not too sure about the efficiency on it.

[The Spectacle]

I can't find pics of it now.....but a while back I found a pic online of what looked like a supra motor that had 6 turbos on it....It didn't have an exhaust manifold since each turbo was bolted on to the block itself. They were super tiny turbos.

I'm this close to offering you money to show me pics of this...:drool:

[Kaotic Lazagna]

So, if twin charging is possible, would it be possible to have the said set up along with a supercharger? Massive complexity! hehehe.

[ka0sx]

twin charging and keeping the intake separated doesnt do much, it also creates a power imbalance between the cylinders as the turbos will deteriorate at different rates. If you twin, then unify the intake side of it, no sense in keeping it separate. The turbine during the compression stroke will continues to spin but slow a bit due to inertia no harm done.

My question is, what is the point? I mean yeah it sounds cool on paper, but you are adding more weight then it is worth. The P to W ratio of a single compared to twin doesnt make sense, the weight cost of a larger single compared to a twin will be about a x1.6 difference due to the weight of the housing's on top of that you are running more weight with individual exhausts.

If you are doing it just to be unique and to say you did it, then go for it!

[Mouse]

Here's 4 turbos.....http://www.gizmag.com/go/5227/picture/20323/

I guess I saw wrong....But still same concept....1 turbo per cylinder.

[Morgan]

off topic but, its a fold-able boat link from the previously posted link....

http://www.porta-bote.com/versus.html

[CtrlAltDefeat]

ok.. maybe scratch the separate intakes, but hows about a traditional twin turbo? Sequential? Parallel? If it's works well, a twin turbo yaris would be the shit...

[PHXDEMON]

This seems like it wouldn't be worth it at all.

[CtrlAltDefeat]

off topic but, its a fold-able boat link from the previously posted link....

http://www.porta-bote.com/versus.html

err um what does this have to do with any thing?

[goku87]

err um what does this have to do with any thing?

since it starts with "off topic" im going to say...

...nothing? :thumbup:

[AlexNet0]

^probably a fluke, seen it once before, when you hit reply it goes to a completely unrelated thread

[CtrlAltDefeat]

since it starts with "off topic" im going to say...

...nothing? :thumbup:

off topic is one thing, but off planet?? :laugh:

[Morgan]

off topic is one thing, but off planet?? :laugh:

yeah it was a sponsored ad in the link above, thought it was cool... eesh its just the internet...

[turboecho2005]

I would like to see a quad turbo setup. Its been a dream of mine ever since i got the boost bug...

I mean a guy put 8 of them on an LS1 motor!

[Kaotic Lazagna]

^ Curious, what would the turbo lag on that sucker be like?

[CtrlAltDefeat]

yeah it was a sponsored ad in the link above, thought it was cool... eesh its just the internet...

no offense meant but the ads rotate and that was completely out of left field, and confusing...

[Russelt3hPirate]

:bellyroll:

the majority of this thread needs to do some serious tarbo learnings.

it'd be a great SEMA setup that doesn't have to actually work. hahaha.

[CtrlAltDefeat]

actually... it would be like running 2 turbo 750cc motorcycle engines attached at the crank and as far as the separate turbos for half the engine, I believe they have been doing that with v8s and v10s for a while now...

[Russelt3hPirate]

actually... it would be like running 2 turbo 750cc motorcycle engines attached at the crank and as far as the separate turbos for half the engine, I believe they have been doing that with v8s and v10s for a while now...

no they haven't, generally they share a common intake manifold for all the cylinders.

they may have two throttle bodies but the Intake Manifolds are connected (in the event they have one per bank (intake manifolds/throttle bodies).

how would it be like two 750cc motorcycle engines? i'd love to hear your reasoning for that example.

[Russelt3hPirate]

saw this earlier.

http://i42.tinypic.com/6rq91e.jpg

[cali yaris]

^ cool, and uses no fuel either!

[CtrlAltDefeat]

no they haven't, generally they share a common intake manifold for all the cylinders.

they may have two throttle bodies but the Intake Manifolds are connected (in the event they have one per bank (intake manifolds/throttle bodies).

how would it be like two 750cc motorcycle engines? i'd love to hear your reasoning for that example.

because its a 1.5l engine which equals 1500cc which equals 750cc on each set of 2 cylinders, or 2 sets of 2 cylinders at 750cc each...

[CtrlAltDefeat]

^ cool, and uses no fuel either!

right! once the starter motor starts it, it'll never stop! :bellyroll:

[Russelt3hPirate]

because its a 1.5l engine which equals 1500cc which equals 750cc on each set of 2 cylinders, or 2 sets of 2 cylinders at 750cc each...

give me an example where you've seen 2 turbo 750cc motorcycle motors attached at the crank running multiple throttle bodies and no sharing of their intake manifolds.

you're not going to win this argument b/c it's pointless.

a twin turbo setup with 1 intake manifold is surely possible but there is no point to run one turbo off two cylinders into 2 cylinders, then have another turbo running off the other two going into the other two...... :lol:

how did you plan on intercooling this setup?

wait, let me guess, dual intercoolers too?

are you going to run two fuel pumps too?

one for each "motorcycle engine"?

come on now.

do a twin turbo setup, run one turbo off two and the other off the other two, then go into 1 intercooler, then into ONE INTAKE MANIFOLD.

look at that, you've got an over weight turbo setup that makes less power and is less drivable then a properly chosen setup single turbo.

if you're looking for better spool invest in a twin scroll turbo that is properly sized for the engine.

save you a few clicks, http://tinyurl.com/corza8

thoughts?

open for discussion.

[CtrlAltDefeat]

give me an example where you've seen 2 turbo 750cc motorcycle motors attached at the crank running multiple throttle bodies and no sharing of their intake manifolds.

you're not going to win this argument b/c it's pointless.

a twin turbo setup with 1 intake manifold is surely possible but there is no point to run one turbo off two cylinders into 2 cylinders, then have another turbo running off the other two going into the other two...... :lol:

how did you plan on intercooling this setup?

wait, let me guess, dual intercoolers too?

are you going to run two fuel pumps too?

one for each "motorcycle engine"?

come on now.

do a twin turbo setup, run one turbo off two and the other off the other two, then go into 1 intercooler, then into ONE INTAKE MANIFOLD.

look at that, you've got an over weight turbo setup that makes less power and is less drivable then a properly chosen setup single turbo.

if you're looking for better spool invest in a twin scroll turbo that is properly sized for the engine.

save you a few clicks, http://tinyurl.com/corza8

thoughts?

open for discussion.

Well its not an argument, it was an interesting off the top of my head theory. I appreciate your input but not you attitude. And if you scroll up a bit you'll see I mentioned dropping the dual intake... This all started when I thought about the possibility of using 2 small turbos for less lag then 1 big turbo... Of course I'm a noob to forced induction modification, I mentioned it at the beginning. It's pretty much all hypothetical, so yes i thought about using dual motorcycle intercoolers, and dual exhaust too (about the same size as stock piping so all the low end power wouldn't be lost)

So thanks for your opinion, but in the future keep in mind the spirit of the thread, and keep the trolling to yourself.

kthxbai

[Russelt3hPirate]

So thanks for your opinion, but in the future keep in mind the spirit of the thread, and keep the trolling to yourself.

kthxbai

will do.

in the spirit of the thread.

2 turbos, 2 full exhausts, 2 intercoolers.

if you like car shows then you'll get points, if you like performance you'd might as well do the following

1 turbo, 1 full exhaust, 1 intercooler

and be golden. :D

[Tamago]

. If this makes no sense what so ever, please let me know, and why.



So thanks for your opinion, but in the future keep in mind the spirit of the thread, and keep the trolling to yourself.

kthxbai

i can do nothing but LMFAO at this.

where are you going to put your throttle bodies and mass airflow sensors?

but more importantly, where are you going to put two turbos in a yaris engine bay?

[Russelt3hPirate]

i can do nothing but LMFAO at this.

where are you going to put your throttle bodies and mass airflow sensors?

but more importantly, where are you going to put two turbos in a yaris engine bay?

that's not the point, this conversation is built on hopes and dreams not reality.

A properly setup single turbo system in a yaris will out perform a twin turbo yaris any day simply b/c the single turbo will have more time on the road with more tuning. the twin turbo is still in the shop trying to figure out how to run the intercooler piping while still keeping the stock battery, b/c the customer wants to keep his cool battery tie down.

[cali yaris]

while still keeping the stock battery, b/c the customer wants to keep his cool battery tie down.

oh snap, that's where I figured to put the second turbo.

[Tamago]

oh snap, that's where I figured to put the second turbo.

ZING!!!!!

[CtrlAltDefeat]

so they can twin-charge a yaris, twin-turbo a Miata, and twin charge a mini cooper (http://www.modified.com/features/0506_sccp_2004_mini_cooper_s_twin_turbo/index.html) , but a 2 small turbos in a yaris is laughable... ok...

[Russelt3hPirate]

so they can twin-charge a yaris, twin-turbo a Miata, and twin charge a mini cooper (http://www.modified.com/features/0506_sccp_2004_mini_cooper_s_twin_turbo/index.html) , but a 2 small turbos in a yaris is laughable... ok...

yes it is laughable.

the twin turbo miata is laughable too, but they do have more room to play with.

twin charging <> twin turbo (if you don't grasp that, we'd be glad to help you understand why they aren't the same).

[ka0sx]

If you do ever go through with this then. definitely go twin to single intake but run the turbos sequentially.

[Russelt3hPirate]

If you do ever go through with this then. definitely go twin to single intake but run the turbos sequentially.

you think there is enough exhaust gases to warrant a sequential setup?

seems a little backwards since even the 3.0ltr supras consider a non sequential setup an upgrade.

but then again this thread seems to be more towards the hard parkers anyway.

[ka0sx]

you think there is enough exhaust gases to warrant a sequential setup?

seems a little backwards since even the 3.0ltr supras consider a non sequential setup an upgrade.

but then again this thread seems to be more towards the hard parkers anyway.

non sequential is good for straight roads. I usually drive twistiest. so having one turbo start boosting early gives you an ease in without having the sudden surge of power snapping your tires loose from the ground mid turn. I like a balanced power band. However If he does this or not is up to him, its owner pref. I guess.

as to being enough gasses, yes there is, I have seen even turbo charged lawn mowers.

[Russelt3hPirate]

non sequential is good for straight roads. I usually drive twistiest. so having one turbo start boosting early gives you an ease in without having the sudden surge of power snapping your tires loose from the ground mid turn. I like a balanced power band. However If he does this or not is up to him, its owner pref. I guess.

as to being enough gasses, yes there is, I have seen even turbo charged lawn mowers.

seems like a hack.

make a stout mildly high compression motor (9.5:1) that makes decent power off boost then slap on a properly sized turbo 16g TD05 for example.

make about 275whp have full boost by 3500 rpm and be golden.

i said enough gases to warrant the sequential part of it. how often when in the "twisties" are you below 3k RPM?

[ka0sx]

seems like a hack.

make a stout mildly high compression motor (9.5:1) that makes decent power off boost then slap on a properly sized turbo 16g TD05 for example.

make about 275whp have full boost by 3500 rpm and be golden.

i said enough gases to warrant the sequential part of it. how often when in the "twisties" are you below 3k RPM?

in my old car? i never left 3rd gear, so 30% of the time, thank god for balanced runners, full torque 2400-6400 rpm.

I'm not going to argue with you as you seem to be stubborn as a mule on your opinion and apparently yours is the only one that counts. No one should ever do anything that is a viable solution everyone must conform. :bow:

[Russelt3hPirate]

in my old car? i never left 3rd gear, so 30% of the time, thank god for balanced runners, full torque 2400-6400 rpm.

I'm not going to argue with you as you seem to be stubborn as a mule on your opinion and apparently yours is the only one that counts. No one should ever do anything that is a viable solution everyone must conform. :bow:

:bellyroll: I'm just waiting for someone to actually come up with a viable solution that is better then the one presented above.

feel free to do so.

I'll wait here why you try and figure out how to fit two turbos in a yaris......:rolleyes:

haha, being different simply to be different is as bad if not worse then conforming to a well thought out performance setup that will be simple to setup/maintain and will make power.

then again it is up to you, i'm merely on the other side of the internets voicing my mule of an opinion. :)

[Tamago]

"i" have already proven that a "too large" VF39 meant for a subaru STI is a perfectly feasable and good-spooling turbo for a 10.5:1 1nzfe
















but hey, let's not listen to the people that know, let's talk out of our ass with no actual knowledge on the subject, and flame anyone with an opinion that is unlike our own.

[CtrlAltDefeat]

The reason I started this thread was basically to wonder aloud the advantages of 2 small, quicker spooling turbos with smaller pipes over 1 large turbo with large pipes, not to start a flame war over who knows what, and what experience you've had... Like they say... arguing over the internet is like competing in the special olympics; you may win, but you're still retarded... :biggrin:

[Tamago]

. Like they say... arguing over the internet is like competing in the special olympics; you may win, but you're still retarded... :biggrin:

agreed, so quit saying it's a good idea and we'll quit proving you wrong :iono:

they also say..


insanity is doing (in your case, saying) the same thing over and over, expecting different results

[CtrlAltDefeat]

Uh you won't prove any one wrong unless you somehow prove that no one on the planet can make a twin turbo yaris and that no one would ever appreciate driving it. You aren't proving any thing with flames and insults, either. Hypothetical questions are just that, hypothetical. If everyone refused to even give a hypothetical question a chance, we would still be living in caves. Why don't you give it a rest and go troll another forum. Everyone here already knows your opinion.

[Tamago]

Uh you won't prove any one wrong unless you somehow prove that no one on the planet can make a twin turbo yaris and that no one would ever appreciate driving it. You aren't proving any thing with flames and insults, either. Hypothetical questions are just that, hypothetical. If everyone refused to even give a hypothetical question a chance, we would still be living in caves. Why don't you give it a rest and go troll another forum. Everyone here already knows your opinion.

ok ok


hypothetically it's possible



you win.

[Nexus1155]

Tomatoes Tomagoes? Potatoes Potagoes? You know if someone has a hair brained scheme in their head like the 13b rotary in the yaris like a few have had it will probably happen in the future...

[CtrlAltDefeat]

I love it when flames stop a thread cold...:thumbdown:

[Russelt3hPirate]

The reason I started this thread was basically to wonder aloud the advantages of 2 small, quicker spooling turbos with smaller pipes over 1 large turbo with large pipes, not to start a flame war over who knows what, and what experience you've had... Like they say... arguing over the internet is like competing in the special olympics; you may win, but you're still retarded... :biggrin:

so you're like competing in the special olympics?

if you think a twin turbo yaris will get you laid or win shows then do it, it has no performance benefit over a properly setup single turbo.

/thread

[CtrlAltDefeat]

so you're like competing in the special olympics?

if you think a twin turbo yaris will get you laid or win shows then do it, it has no performance benefit over a properly setup single turbo.

/thread

Funny enough, I wasn't arguing. Absolutes rarely exist in the real world. I am saying that you cannot shoot any thing down until at least one person does it, and it's tested. People who are closed minded and unwilling to even consider alternative viewpoints will never advance anything. They will always follow what other people advance. They will always suffer the consequences of 2nd hand information. If people who ask "what if" listen to people like you, we'll never get anywhere. I really wanted intelligent discussion on the the possibilities of a twin-turbo yaris, not flames and insults, without proper reasons why it wouldn't work. If that's not possible for you, then I suggest you go somewhere else, we know your opinion already.

[Russelt3hPirate]

Funny enough, I wasn't arguing. Absolutes rarely exist in the real world. I am saying that you cannot shoot any thing down until at least one person does it, and it's tested. People who are closed minded and unwilling to even consider alternative viewpoints will never advance anything. They will always follow what other people advance. They will always suffer the consequences of 2nd hand information. If people who ask "what if" listen to people like you, we'll never get anywhere. I really wanted intelligent discussion on the the possibilities of a twin-turbo yaris, not flames and insults, without proper reasons why it wouldn't work. If that's not possible for you, then I suggest you go somewhere else, we know your opinion already.

haha, :clap:

reasons why it's a waste of money.

1.) nearly 2x as heavy as a single turbo
2.) nearly 2x as much piping (and the issues that come with routing piping)
3.) nearly 2x as much oil lines
4.) 10x more custom fabrication for zero benefit
5.) Exactly the same amount of power if not less (due to the excess heat of two turbos)

5 "proper" reasons why it would be a "bad" idea.

oh wait, b/c I didn't suck your balls and say you had the best idea in the world you're sad. haha.

now, if you want to do this, more power to you. I look forward to the progression of your project and I hope you post ALL of your success/failures on here so we can live vicariously through someone who has the means to try something like a twin turbo yaris.

love to see a match up against garm's single when you're done.

no hard feelings but my $$'s on the single turbo setup (obviously).
:headbang:

[Tamago]

Funny enough, I wasn't arguing. Absolutes rarely exist in the real world. I am saying that you cannot shoot any thing down until at least one person does it, and it's tested. .

have you ever jumped out of an airplane sans-parachute?

you should give it a try...

[ChinoCharles]

I couldn't imagine how the hell you'd pipe it... people have a hard enough time doing 1 turbo let alone 2.

The ends DEFINITELY would NOT justify the means, unless you have an endless pocketbook and just want to have the biggest head-turner on Earth.

[Russelt3hPirate]

I couldn't imagine how the hell you'd pipe it... people have a hard enough time doing 1 turbo let alone 2.

The ends DEFINITELY would NOT justify the means, unless you have an endless pocketbook and just want to have the biggest head-turner on Earth.

Chino, please in the spirit of this thread keep the trolling to yourself. ;)

[Tamago]

www.ctrlaltdefeat.com/forums would be a good place to post this so that the OP can just delete any posts that don't say "yo dawg, i heard you like twin turbos"

[ChinoCharles]

O man u gus are terrible. Lol

[CtrlAltDefeat]

oh wait, b/c I didn't suck your balls and say you had the best idea in the world you're sad. haha.

have you ever jumped out of an airplane sans-parachute?

you should give it a try...

Wow... I am truly hurt to the core of my soul. I heard insults similar to these from some 5th graders the other day and I almost tried to drown myself in the nearest mud puddle. I am just that devastated. You guys should go on tour! You know, insult strangers until they're suicidal in front of an audience... You'd be rich!


I couldn't imagine how the hell you'd pipe it... people have a hard enough time doing 1 turbo let alone 2.

The ends DEFINITELY would NOT justify the means, unless you have an endless pocketbook and just want to have the biggest head-turner on Earth.

Cool, thank you for your input. It is obvious at this point, from previous intelligent posts, that a twin-turbo Yaris would be difficult and expensive at best. I doubt I will ever have the resources to try it. My intention was to ask a "what if" question, to learn what people thought.

After being flamed by certain people, the only thing I've learned is not to bother asking questions that require an open mind and creative thinking here. Personally I'm tired of the child-like atmosphere here, and request this thread to be locked

Thanks

[Tamago]

Wow... I am truly hurt to the core of my soul. I heard insults similar to these from some 5th graders the other day and I almost tried to drown myself in the nearest mud puddle. I am just that devastated. You guys should go on tour! You know, insult strangers until they're suicidal in front of an audience... You'd be rich!




Cool, thank you for your input. It is obvious at this point, from previous intelligent posts, that a twin-turbo Yaris would be difficult and expensive at best. I doubt I will ever have the resources to try it. My intention was to ask a "what if" question, to learn what people thought.

After being flamed by certain people, the only thing I've learned is not to bother asking questions that require an open mind and creative thinking here. Personally I'm tired of the child-like atmosphere here, and request this thread to be locked

Thanks

i wasn't insulting you... i was making a too-subtle (for you apparently) point about not trying things that are a bad idea.

you only got flamed AFTER you kept insisting that it was a good idea. .

[CtrlAltDefeat]

have you ever jumped out of an airplane sans-parachute?

you should give it a try...


www.ctrlaltdefeat.com/forums would be a good place to post this so that the OP can just delete any posts that don't say "yo dawg, i heard you like twin turbos"

i wasn't insulting you... i was making a too-subtle (for you apparently) point about not trying things that are a bad idea.

you only got flamed AFTER you kept insisting that it was a good idea. .

It's an attempt to subtly be insulting, which failed on many levels. You are also trying to be insulting when you say "(for you apparently)". I got the subtext. I don't appreciate the immature insult mixed in with it. So as my final post on this thread, I repeat my disdain for trolls, and unsubscribe from this thread.

[Russelt3hPirate]

It's an attempt to subtly be insulting, which failed on many levels. You are also trying to be insulting when you say "(for you apparently)". I got the subtext. I don't appreciate the immature insult mixed in with it. So as my final post on this thread, I repeat my disdain for trolls, and unsubscribe from this thread.

So, do you still think this is a good idea? Would you pursue this avenue of performance enhancing modifications?

[CtrlAltDefeat]

So, do you still think this is a good idea? Would you pursue this avenue of performance enhancing modifications?

At the risk of getting flamed:
Well I think it would be an interesting experiment (interesting to me any way). If I had the time and money, and I had my engine out any ways to turbo it, then I'd love to try it for shits and giggles. Maybe with 2 small turbos, and smaller pipes it'd spool better, after all the engine's so small, I'd think turbo lag would be an issue with 1 large turbo. Maybe the benefits would out weigh the negatives, maybe not. Maybe like you mentioned it would weigh too much, and be too complicated. It was really just a thought experiment. The whole dual everything was just a wild out of the blue thought, that I wanted to discuss with someone. I hadn't even thought about the whole dual throttle bodies thing when I came up with it. A traditional twin-turbo setup must have some benefits, or no one would put them on other cars. I'm not stupid, however. If I skimped and saved to get a turbo setup on my Yaris, I'd go with a proven performer, and get a single turbo. If I had the money to try it, I'd try it.

[Tamago]

I So as my final post on this thread, I repeat my disdain for trolls, and unsubscribe from this thread.

At the risk of getting flamed:
Well I think it would be an interesting experiment (interesting to me any way). If I had the time and money, and I had my engine out any ways to turbo it, then I'd love to try it for shits and giggles. Maybe with 2 small turbos, and smaller pipes it'd spool better, after all the engine's so small, I'd think turbo lag would be an issue with 1 large turbo. Maybe the benefits would out weigh the negatives, maybe not. Maybe like you mentioned it would weigh too much, and be too complicated. It was really just a thought experiment. The whole dual everything was just a wild out of the blue thought, that I wanted to discuss with someone. I hadn't even thought about the whole dual throttle bodies thing when I came up with it. A traditional twin-turbo setup must have some benefits, or no one would put them on other cars. I'm not stupid, however. If I skimped and saved to get a turbo setup on my Yaris, I'd go with a proven performer, and get a single turbo. If I had the money to try it, I'd try it.

lol

[CtrlAltDefeat]

lol

I really couldn't give a fuck about your opinion

[cdydjded]

Threads like this is the reason the Yaris will never get the support of major manufactures & companies. Keep up the good work guys:clap:

[Nexus1155]

Threads like this is the reason the Yaris will never get the support of major manufactures & companies. Keep up the good work guys

It will never happen regardless, its not like a FIT with an extreme tuner base, there might be 3 yarii in my town slightly modded including my girls...we have to wait for a new company to step in; a smaller company that can provide stuff like Holdeners instead of waiting for Greddy or Weapon or whoever... intakes don't count...

And its also because 75% of the people here don't think with their brains and speak out of their ass, 10% are just here to lurk, 10% are inactive, and 5% actually know what the hell they're talking about...

[Tamago]

Threads like this is the reason the Yaris will never get the support of major manufactures & companies. Keep up the good work guys:clap:

the thread itself has no bearing on what manufacturers think lmfao

weren't you supposed to have a turbo kit for sale by now? :rolleyes:

[cdydjded]

My point exactly, why would I or any manufacture come out with anything when we get threads like this one, or the one the other day on "engine swaps" with some genius wanting to swap in a rotary or Honda engine. I am hesitant to come out with my kit every time I read a post that has no thought behind it.

[Tamago]

My point exactly, why would I or any manufacture come out with anything when we get threads like this one, or the one the other day on "engine swaps" with some genius wanting to swap in a rotary or Honda engine. I am hesitant to come out with my kit every time I read a post that has no thought behind it.

so basically you think that because the OP wants to twin turbo a yaris and run the piping in the most confounded way, that'll prevent manufacturers from building turbo kits?

what's the REAL reason you never followed through?

[Russelt3hPirate]

My point exactly, why would I or any manufacture come out with anything when we get threads like this one, or the one the other day on "engine swaps" with some genius wanting to swap in a rotary or Honda engine. I am hesitant to come out with my kit every time I read a post that has no thought behind it.

there is alot of thought in this thread.

alot of good marketing points that a smart company could exploit.

concerns regarding weight (list the weight of your kit)
concerns for fitment (list exactly what needs to change)

I could go on and on, but if you don't see "this thread" as marketing gold you're obviously not reading into it (and the other HKS turbo kit thread).

your call if you want to help a community that obviously has a market for a properly setup turbo kit that doesn't cost 1/4 of the car (for the base kit, people have expressed they'd be willing to pay more if it came with more)

oh, well we shall see what happens. nothing we can do but wait for the people with the Means/Drive to build quality products.

[BLAZINBLUEVITZ]

My point exactly, why would I or any manufacture come out with anything when we get threads like this one, or the one the other day on "engine swaps" with some genius wanting to swap in a rotary or Honda engine. I am hesitant to come out with my kit every time I read a post that has no thought behind it.

WHY not just come out with it for yourself...........

[ChinoCharles]

My point exactly, why would I or any manufacture come out with anything when we get threads like this one, or the one the other day on "engine swaps" with some genius wanting to swap in a rotary or Honda engine. I am hesitant to come out with my kit every time I read a post that has no thought behind it.

What? A forum is the reason nobody wants to make parts?

That has to be the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard. You haven't made it because either you don't have time, don't have resources, ran into problems, are worried about anyone actually buying the thing or you don't have the means. Don't go blaming us.

Careful how high you hold that nose in the air. It may start bleeding.

[cdydjded]

Tamago: "so basically you think that because the OP wants to twin turbo a yaris and run the piping in the most confounded way, that'll prevent manufacturers from building turbo kits?"
No that not what I think, what I think is that this and the many unthoughtful post discourage legitimate manufactures from producing products
"what's the REAL reason you never followed through? "
Time, resources, ran into problems, worried about anyone actually buying the thing
To answer your question & Chino Charles

[Tamago]

i think someone should make a 16turbo yaris, one for each valve.

[Tamago]

tiny turbos heatsoak much quicker than big turbos though.. you'd need 16 FRONT MOUNT intercooler FMIC's mounted in the front.

[Nexus1155]

hahahaha this thread is full of win i love it, now someone go make me a turbo kit

[Tamago]

now someone go make me a turbo kit

see sig ;)

[ChinoCharles]

i think someone should make a 16turbo yaris, one for each valve.

LOL thats hilarious.

So I go to Summit Racing yesterday to look at Autometer gauges for my turbee... holy f'n s! Wideband alone was $350... most of the others were around $100. I could have spent a grand on gauges! WOW. Ebay here I come!

[cdydjded]

i think someone should make a 16turbo yaris, one for each valve.

:laughabove:

[cdydjded]

LOL thats hilarious.

So I go to Summit Racing yesterday to look at Autometer gauges for my turbee... holy f'n s! Wideband alone was $350... most of the others were around $100. I could have spent a grand on gauges! WOW. Ebay here I come!

PM me for Autometer prices

[Tamago]

i have an Innovate LC1 with gauge for sale

[Russelt3hPirate]

LOL thats hilarious.

So I go to Summit Racing yesterday to look at Autometer gauges for my turbee... holy f'n s! Wideband alone was $350... most of the others were around $100. I could have spent a grand on gauges! WOW. Ebay here I come!

haha and they would've still sucked.

you must PM tamago about the ones he has for sale.

Defi FTW.

[Nexus1155]

Me and Chino are colaborating leave us alone!!!

[turboecho2005]

For a minute i thought i was on hondatech with all this drama...

We need a popcorn emoticon :biggrin:

A twin turbo (or sequential turbo setup) would really be for more show then go... I would personally prefer a supercharger and turbo combo with a supercharger that has an electronic clutch. But i can't justify spending the money on a setup with a supercharger that is only usefull to give that instant power down low while the turbo spools...

Twin turbo setup... very cool and unique. i am all about being unique... :w00t:

But cost effective for your power returns... I would have to say NO.:thumbdown:

[Tamago]

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[ka0sx]

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