Texas talks Succession

[GeneW]

Texas Gov. Rick Perry fired up an anti-tax "tea party" Wednesday with his stance against the federal government and for states' rights as some in his U.S. flag-waving audience shouted, "Secede!"

An animated Perry told the crowd at Austin City Hall — one of three tea parties he was attending across the state — that officials in Washington have abandoned the country's founding principles of limited government. He said the federal government is strangling Americans with taxation, spending and debt.

Perry repeated his running theme that Texas' economy is in relatively good shape compared with other states and with the "federal budget mess." Many in the crowd held signs deriding President Barack Obama and the $786 billion federal economic stimulus package.

Later, answering news reporters' questions, Perry suggested Texans might at some point get so fed up they would want to secede from the union, though he said he sees no reason why Texas should do that.

http://www.statesman.com/news/content/gen/ap/TX_Perry_Tea_Party.html

This is talk. Perry has been pushing Texas into the SPP too, especially with that big ass road that runs from Texas to Canada.

There are consequences to things, including ideas and taking positions. A Republic of Texas would have to cope with Mexico on its border, manage defense arrangements, money and run their economy. It's not so easy.

I for one wouldn't mind one way or the other. We can always trade with a Republic of Texas as easy as the State of Texas.

Gene

[Gideon]

I for one wouldn't mind one way or the other.

You wouldn't mind another American Civil War?

[Bob_VT]

Well it's no secret that there was a movement for Vermont to secede from the USA and even declare war!! :eek: Google it!

It's simple secede, declare war, never surrender, and get occupied. The amount of aid in dollars and cents would be sufficient to make every VT person a millionaire over and over.

Counties that receive aid from the US are permitted to trade and helped to prosper. We could do it w/o firing a shot and having any loss of lives.

Basically VT is landlocked and the only boarder we would have to worry about is the one to the south...... we can't trust the people from Mass but we can apply to Canada to help guard that boarder :thumbup:

I'm not too surprised about the rallies in TX. We have not seen any decent rallies since Viet Nam

Civil Wars don't have to involve shooting.

[GeneW]

You wouldn't mind another American Civil War?

I meant it as an after the fact thing.

The Federals might not be able to prevent succession. Kind of hard to wage war when you can't pay for your spares, personnel and fuel.

Gene

[TLyttle]

What folderol. Next, the Texans will have Dubya for President of the new country of Texas, and somehow that will fit exactly right...

[Deltasix]

Well, succession is illegal and all, but sure why not.

[MadMax]

Illegal? Try reading the Consitution, specifically the Tenth Amendment...

The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.

In case you've never studied constitutional law, that means "each state retains its sovereignty, freedom, and independence, and every power, jurisdiction, and right, which is not by this Confederation expressly delegated to the United States, in Congress assembled" (Source (http://avalon.law.yale.edu/18th_century/artconf.asp)).

Or, you could simply read the Wiki page on State Rights (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/States'_rights)! And while you are at it, also go read what was the intended purpose of the Second Amendment (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oz5o1qEB5ok)!

And the above article was written to be political humor; but the one thing people should note is that like deception, humor also has to have a basis of truth for it to be effective. The bigger picture is that articles like this, and yesterday's 'Tea Party' protests, demonstrate how the a large number of Americans are not as enamored by the current administration as the media would like you to believe.

Cheers! M2

[33OH]

Perry repeated his running theme that Texas' economy is in relatively good shape compared with other states and with the "federal budget mess." Many in the crowd held signs deriding President Barack Obama and the $786 billion federal economic stimulus package.


So.. because a state's economy is actually doing good, they would want to leave their nation and blame the president that he's doing things all wrong?

We have had 12-13% unemployment here for a while, you'd think that would be a reason to leave a nation.

And I know this article is meant for humor, but all of these 5,000 humor articles about Texas succeeding the nation are starting to get old. Just do it already! :tongue::biggrin:

[eTiMaGo]

out of curiosity... don't you mean seceding? aka splitting apart? and not succeeding, meaning coming after?

[33OH]

out of curiosity... don't you mean seceding? aka splitting apart? and not succeeding, meaning coming after?

No idea, I just went by Gene's spelling of it from the title. I'm sure seceding is right.

[SailDesign]

out of curiosity... don't you mean seceding? aka splitting apart? and not succeeding, meaning coming after?

Yes, they do. Texans even make bigger spelling mistakes than the rest of us :biggrin: ESPECIALLY when a French-speaker has to point them out. :even bigger grin:

[jclo3313]

Less Tax, more Freedom!
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[jclo3313]

how bout we avoid political or religious nature threads. there is plenty of AUTOMOTIVE news and general generic topics we can cover here. it seriously doubt the Yaris has a political affiliation

Good call!:thumbsup: