Just got my 17" rims!

[Spades]

hello! just found this site, had my rims put on two days ago...so far no serious rubbing issues...

http://home.comcast.net/~fitzworld/rims.JPG

[Ryosuke]

What size are the tires??

[Spades]

big...225/50R17....the tires were free from work, otherwise they would be lower profile...

[SimmZ]

225/50R17!! Oh my freakin' god!! :eek: :eek:

You can't put any size of tire you want on a car man! You have to respect the overall diameter of your stock wheel, that's mean, if you put bigger wheels, you must use slimmer tires to get the same overall diameter what your stock wheels. If you don't put the right tire size and get a bigger overall diameter more than 3%, all your gauges will be mistaken and your ECU will also get bad measurements who will result in major problems.

- For stock 175/65R14, you must use 205/35R17.

- For stock 185/60R15, you must use 205/40R17.

[riceboy]

That's some serious rubber.. are you sure you can go lock 2 lock without anything rubbing??

[riceboy]

btw black w/ polished lip... i like..

[slvryaris]

That does seem a little big. Here is one of the best tire calculators that I have seen. If there are any questions that you have about the sizes this site can help ya out. Plug in the old size and the new size and it tells you the differences.

http://www.eunos.com/tirecalc/

[SimmZ]

225/50R17 is 12.6% too big for your car, it's just only a small difference. Ask any tires shop or your deal, they will be clear : ***NEVER*** put bigger tires over 3% because you are looking for BIG troubles.

[Lafiro]

Im getting mine hopefully wed.

205/40/17!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I cant wait. Will show before picture, and a after picture with the TRD lowering springs installed.

[Lafiro]

big...225/50R17....the tires were free from work, otherwise they would be lower profile...
That is just too funny. I love how the car looks like its a foot off the floor. And I just dropped mine!!!!! Yikes!!

[mikeukrainetz]

SimmZ,
any dealer or repair shop or tire shop for that matter will give you the easiest pile of crap they can find. Sure going outragously huge will have effects whether detrimental or not but unless your putting 20's with lowering springs on your ride you should only have guage readout differences. Your wheel speed sensors will be out slightly but do a mph difference between stock and 17+ not much to worry about. Toyota uses 14" to 18" wheels on the yaris.
Shops will give you whats written in the shop manuals cause most of them cant be bothered to see what sizes will fit. A billion honda owners will say the same thing.

[SimmZ]

SimmZ,
any dealer or repair shop or tire shop for that matter will give you the easiest pile of crap they can find. Sure going outragously huge will have effects whether detrimental or not but unless your putting 20's with lowering springs on your ride you should only have guage readout differences. Your wheel speed sensors will be out slightly but do a mph difference between stock and 17+ not much to worry about. Toyota uses 14" to 18" wheels on the yaris.
Shops will give you whats written in the shop manuals cause most of them cant be bothered to see what sizes will fit. A billion honda owners will say the same thing.

Sorry, but this is false.

No matter which size of wheels you use from 14" to 20" if you respect the overall diameter of your stock wheels. If your stock wheel is 14", then you have stock tires sidewall of 4", it's mean you have overall diameter of 22". If you want to use 17", you have to use tire with 2.5" of sidewall to obtain your 22" overall diameter. If you want to use 20", you have to find tires with 1" sidewall (dunno if it exist), and ect...

You have to respect this overall size because of your wheels speed sensor who provide very important informations to your ECU and your gauges. If you respect your overall size by 3% (3% bigger or 3% smaller) it doesn't really matter. But this guy is running 12.6% too much big tires for his car what is VERY BAD.

[Hawaiian Bluzman]

big...225/50R17....the tires were free from work, otherwise they would be lower profile...

Hey! your asking for trouble and If you got ABS brake it will be worse. I almost made the same mistake but a tire dealer gave me the scoops on what can happen if you go oversize. Right now your 8+% over size
Check out this link! I got my info on tire size just input your tire size and input tire size your want if will give the percentage differents and also warn if your choose a oversize tire :frown:


http://www.1010tires.com/TireSizeCalculator.asp?action=submit

[Katana]

225/50R17!! Oh my freakin' god!! :eek: :eek:

You can't put any size of tire you want on a car man! You have to respect the overall diameter of your stock wheel, that's mean, if you put bigger wheels, you must use slimmer tires to get the same overall diameter what your stock wheels. If you don't put the right tire size and get a bigger overall diameter more than 3%, all your gauges will be mistaken and your ECU will also get bad measurements who will result in major problems.

- For stock 175/65R14, you must use 205/35R17.

- For stock 185/60R15, you must use 205/40R17.

Mine had stock 185/60R15.I put on 195/55/15.Is this right?

[sroberts]

Yeah, you better be careful. I put bigger tires on my other ride. This caused my speedo to be WAY off and I get about 8 mpg. It also caused all these scratches and dents on the sides. My fender wells are hacked, my gas tank is dented up and I have all this extra weight to haul around......Oh wait! The scratches are from bushes and the dents are from rocks and the weight is from the all the spare parts I carry when off roading in mountains.... :biggrin:

http://home.comcast.net/~srobertsfsj/Wagoneer/wagoneer5.jpg

[Hawaiian Bluzman]

Mine had stock 185/60R15.I put on 195/55/15.Is this right?

Your Good! your only 1.26 bigger which way under 3%

[thewifesyaris]

just depends... i heard from a friend who works at honda, that most newer cars have ecus that will automatically recalculate your guages and braking systems with aftermarket tire/wheel setups. I may be throwing useless info out there but my brothers running about two and a half inches too big on his SI and his guages havn't had a problem. Toyota may be different but they seem to always be right behind Honda if not in front of them with most of their electronics. And for what I know about abs systems... the only way you can mess them up dramatically is if your running a stagger, or bigger tires in the rear than in the front. Actually I know for a fact that if you stagger your tire sizes that most if not all of your ecus and guages will be messed up. Knowing what I've seen so far the Yaris will pull up with a CEL if you stagger the way the got sensors running through the thing. So dont be too discouraged, again I may be wrong, but try running on what you have for a while, maybe go to a parking lot and make sure your abs works fine, if you have it.

[mikeukrainetz]

someone better tell all those honda owners, 4x4 owners, suv owners that theyre going to hoop their rides with those wheel and tire setups theyre running.

[thewifesyaris]

hoop
explain...?

[Spades]

well...nice to see another car forum with a bunch of jerks on it.

thank you for your well thought replies...now...the question...do i care...the answer is no...i do not care what any of you think.

so, thank you for all the helpfull suggestions...I will be going lower profile when i have the money, untill then they will stay on there...so, unless you all have the money to give me to buy differant tires (as I said, the tires on there were free) please to not try to bully me into buying something I do not have the money for right now.

P.S. Lock to lock no rub, there is actually 1" of clearance. there is 2" fender to tire, and the only thing that rubs is the rear mudshields in the back if you take a speed bump fast.

[SimmZ]

SPADES, you absolutely not understand the what the problem is! It have nothing to do with the wheel clearance, it's the lastest of the concerns! It's related with the VSS (vehicule speed sensor) who provide the most importants measurements to your ECU (Engine Controller Unit). If your ECU is not receiving the right datas from the sensor about the driving speed and conditions, it will fuck up all the settings of the engine (air/fuel mixture, ect). It is really major! If you don't trust us, just call your dealer right fuc*** now.

If you don't have the money to put the right tires on your car, just keep the stocks on! You don't have to break something major on your car because you don't have the money to buy right tires... it doesn't make sense! :iono:

[SimmZ]

Mine had stock 185/60R15.I put on 195/55/15.Is this right?

Perfect sir! No problem at all. I actually use 185-60-14 on the Echo instead of the stock 175-65-14.

[bigsky2]

SimmZ speaks the truth.

Running different setups that are beyond 2-5% difference of original diameter is pretty bad for the vehicle.

We're not forcing or bullying you to get tires you can't afford, we're just advising you that you should hold off on installing your rims until you get the proper tires for them.

Not to offend you, but are you that hurting to get new rims on right away?

[static808]

well...nice to see another car forum with a bunch of jerks on it.

thank you for your well thought replies...now...the question...do i care...the answer is no...i do not care what any of you think.


how dare these "jerks" try to help you keep your car running well. and if you didn't care, why'd you put a post up?? u should be thanking everyone here for providing such wonderful information to help keep our cars running smoothly. just my 2 cents...

--B

[Hawaiian Bluzman]

Hey Man! We're trying to save you $$$..you might end up paying more...We don't want to see you lose your investment. This is what I read about Plus Sizing...

Plus Sizing

Plus sizing your wheel & tire combination was designed to enhance vehicle performance and looks by allowing fitment of larger diameter rims and lower profile tires. The theory is that while making these changes, you keep the overall tire diameter within 3% of the original equipment tires. This is important because larger variances can cause problems with transmission shift points which can decrease fuel mileage. It can also confuse braking system computers which can even lead to brake failure.

Here's the rule of thumb for "plus sizing":

Plus 1:
Increase section width by 10mm
Decrease aspect ratio by 10 points
Increase rim diameter by 1 inch

Plus 2:
Increase section width by 20mm
Decrease aspect ratio by 20 points
Increase rim diameter by 2 inches.


This is not exact, but it will usually get you in the right ballpark. We always recommend consulting with the people you are purchasing the wheels and tires from to ensure fitment.

And Hey! if your Car is OK and nothing happens more power to you!

[casterqc]

If you decide to post a picture of your car on a forum, you have to expect people to make comments about it...I mean not only good comments.

No one has been disrespecting you here, and trust me many would have in other forums. I agree with SimmZ, his suggestions are only for your own good. Instead of telling that all of us, but you alone, are "jerks" because you really want us to understand that you don't care about our comments and suggestions...you should try to do a little research on the importance of wheels and tires specs on a car.

My suggestion, if you don't have the money to buy a good set of tires...don't go buy 17inch wheels! Their's a difference between not having enough money and not knowing what to do with the money you have.

But as long as you're happy with what you have....it's fine with me and you can still be a friend:wink: :biggrin:

[slvryaris]

All the postings on here is good advice even though it might not seem like it at times. People just need to be a little more helpful instead of being quick to say YOU ARE A F*&^ING MORON or something to that nature. No wonder you feel like you are being bullied at times. Some people just need to tune it down a notch.

[ChinoCharles]

Its tough love people... we all get flamed from time to time. Its part of the game. BUCK UP!

[sroberts]

Wow, dont get your panties in a bunch. People are just trying to help. Maybe they could be a little less dramatic when they post but its just advice. Don't post if you don't want responses. :iono:

BTW, your statement makes you just as much of a jerk....

well...nice to see another car forum with a bunch of jerks on it.

thank you for your well thought replies...now...the question...do i care...the answer is no...i do not care what any of you think.

[Katana]

Your Good! your only 1.26 bigger which way under 3%


Perfect sir! No problem at all. I actually use 185-60-14 on the Echo instead of the stock 175-65-14.


Thank you both guys!:respekt:

[dngz]

No wonder your wheels looked soo big!! Sell your 50's and get 40's!!!

[SimmZ]

No wonder your wheels looked soo big!! Sell your 50's and get 40's!!!

Good idea!! If you don't have money, just sell your 225-50 and they some 205-40. :clap:

[YamilR]

What size of tires do you guys recommend for this Enkei?

http://www.discounttire.com/dtcs/findWheelDetail.do?rcz=32043&rc=FLJINT&mk=TOYOTA&yr=2007&wd=17&dVeh=dVeh&pc=51125&rw=&bp=&vid=010325

[Hawaiian Bluzman]

What size of tires do you guys recommend for this Enkei?

http://www.discounttire.com/dtcs/findWheelDetail.do?rcz=32043&rc=FLJINT&mk=TOYOTA&yr=2007&wd=17&dVeh=dVeh&pc=51125&rw=&bp=&vid=010325


205/40/17 will be your best fit.
My 17"s was 7-1/2"wide so I went with 215/40/17

[SimmZ]

What size of tires do you guys recommend for this Enkei?

http://www.discounttire.com/dtcs/findWheelDetail.do?rcz=32043&rc=FLJINT&mk=TOYOTA&yr=2007&wd=17&dVeh=dVeh&pc=51125&rw=&bp=&vid=010325

Just for your info, the tires size doesn't really matter with the wheels. It does matter with the car it's going on. Definitely 205/40/17 will be your best bet.

Enjoy! :thumbsup:

[dngz]

40 profiles should be juuuuuust right!

[H2XcapePod]

Everyone I c runs 205/40's, I can see the variance for 205/45's are just a little bit more but still within 3%. I think I'd like a bit more rubber, call it pothole-a-phobia...

[mhero]

mine is 205/45/17

[ChinoCharles]

^^^ Hotness. Need springs though.

[manborn]

225/50R17!! Oh my freakin' god!! :eek: :eek:

You can't put any size of tire you want on a car man! You have to respect the overall diameter of your stock wheel, that's mean, if you put bigger wheels, you must use slimmer tires to get the same overall diameter what your stock wheels. If you don't put the right tire size and get a bigger overall diameter more than 3%, all your gauges will be mistaken and your ECU will also get bad measurements who will result in major problems.

- For stock 175/65R14, you must use 205/35R17.

- For stock 185/60R15, you must use 205/40R17.

i have stock r15, can i get 205/45r17? i just dont like the hard ride on the 40s or do i have to go r16 for 45s?

[H2XcapePod]

mine is 205/45/17:biggrin:

[jeff_o]

i plan to put aftermarket wheels and tires. i have been computing the overall dia. based on tire sized a/b-rc. (a*(b/100)*2) + c * (25.4) = dia in mm. then just compute the % to not exceed 3 or 5% from the stock.

by the way, is it 3% or 5%?

also i noticed the yaris sedan and S have a differenent computed dia. 175/65r14 = 583.1mm dia vs 185/60r15 = 604.2. which is 3.6% and 3.5% respectively. Does this mean the ECU for the sedan is programed differently as that to the S?

[manborn]

http://www.yarisworld.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1647

225/50R17!! Oh my freakin' god!! :eek: :eek:

You can't put any size of tire you want on a car man! You have to respect the overall diameter of your stock wheel, that's mean, if you put bigger wheels, you must use slimmer tires to get the same overall diameter what your stock wheels. If you don't put the right tire size and get a bigger overall diameter more than 3%, all your gauges will be mistaken and your ECU will also get bad measurements who will result in major problems.

- For stock 175/65R14, you must use 205/35R17.

- For stock 185/60R15, you must use 205/40R17.


you're better off going with the link below, it will automatically calculate everything for you

http://www.1010tires.com/TireSizeCalculator.asp