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regal
04-18-2009, 12:39 PM
I've used caranuba for years. Did the first wash/wax on my new white Yaris today. Only a month old and it took hours to get all the bug and tar stains off. Heck my arms are tired. I was thinking it would be nice to find a wax that would help keep tar from being stuck on so deep and that would last a long time.
I know caranuba is considered the best as far as shine, but I'm more concerned about finding a wax that would last a long time and make washing easier.
evil genius
04-18-2009, 01:48 PM
Did you use a clay bar before you waxed? I ask because it will make a difference in the smoothness of the paint, smoother paint = easier cleaning.
As for the longest lasting wax, through my experiences, waxes with higher percentage of wax content last longer but the cost is much higher.
Maybe try one of the new synthetic or synthetic blend waxes.
regal
04-18-2009, 01:52 PM
I didn't do the clay bar because I figured it wouldn't need it being only a month old, I was wrong about that.
evil genius
04-18-2009, 01:58 PM
You may have had the car for a month but the car could be older than that and the crud builds on it through shipping and sitting on the lot.
jambo101
04-18-2009, 04:57 PM
autopia
and
http://www.meguiars.com/howtocenter/ (http://www.meguiars.com/howtocenter/) Are good "how to" sources for car care.
The usual washing steps would be=
1 Wash twice with dish soap to remove old wax.Use 2 buckets of water,one with the soap the other to rinse the rag
2 Claybar.
3 If its an older car swirl/scratch remover is applied at this stage.
4 Now the polish.
5 Finishing with the wax.
Maintain finish with a detail spray
Use absolutely the cleanest rags,if one falls on the ground its history,i find micro fiber towels and rags work well,i only use them once for the car as its not expensive to buy new ones.
Klink10
04-18-2009, 11:37 PM
A quality sealant will last longer and provide better protection. Follow that with a good wax for a shiny effect.
TinyGiant
04-18-2009, 11:45 PM
my car was done with this resist all stuff.. guaranteed to seal the car and not need a wax for 7 years the thing always looks shiny and wet :)
jinxor
04-18-2009, 11:46 PM
swisswax is great... but I cant afford it right now...
I love my NXT Tech Wax 2.0 now... it does wonders
uncleyaris
04-19-2009, 01:37 AM
I'd say PM echo_hrs, cause he has the nicest car in YW.
evil genius
04-19-2009, 01:49 AM
swisswax is great... but I cant afford it right now...
I love my NXT Tech Wax 2.0 now... it does wonders
Maybe the concorso, but Crystal Rock and Divine are like a down payment on another yaris or at least a good paint job. I've used concorso but switched to zymol carbon, I think the zymol lasts longer.
dallas
04-21-2009, 02:16 AM
Second the MEGUIARS NST tech wax, almost as shiny as pure carnuba but lasts 3 times as longer !
swisswax is great... but I cant afford it right now...
I love my NXT Tech Wax 2.0 now... it does wonders
nisyota
04-21-2009, 04:44 AM
I gotta give it to KLASSE... Their ALL IN ONE and their Sealant. GREAT STUFF. Its simple to use.
WAX ON WAX OFF.
TroyD
04-23-2009, 02:10 PM
I can't believe I don't see a post recommending Zaino yet. Their entire line of products is fantastic. Use Z5 for dark color cars, or Z2 on lighter colors and metallics.
On Autopia people have done tests (cross section a spare hood with tape and applying different products and Zaino is almost always the longest lasting).
Klasse is good too, but their Sealant (the gray bottle) is very finicky to apply.
http://www.zainobros.com
If you want the easiest stuff to apply and take off, try Buttery Wax buy Adam's. Their whole line up is the best wax I have ever tried. Their detail spray is amazing as well. Prior to waxing though, clay bar and then polishing/removing scratches makes for a nice smooth paint job to apply the wax to. Without the prep work, you will be sealing contaminants into the paint. Even a new car needs to be clayed and polished.
YarisSedan
04-25-2009, 10:56 PM
Meguires NXT 2.0 is the best wax you can buy if you want the best of both worlds. Shine and longetivity. Since it is a fully synthetic wax it can withstand higher melting point than thier black bottle gold class. The gold class will give you better results but if you live where its really hot the best you will get is about 2 weeks before the shine and protection is gone.
NXT 2.0 is almost as good of a shine but last several months.
What you can do is put on a base coat of NXT and put on the gold class on top to get the shine you want but when it melts away you will still have NXT protecting it.
Arkhangel
04-27-2009, 01:30 AM
Check out the zymol ;)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PkmZveqyU5E
schleppy
04-27-2009, 09:15 AM
I've used Zaino (complete system, from clay bar to finishing wax), Zymol, Meguiars (nxt and gold class), Mothers, and I've found (amazingly) that the longest lasting wax (in my experience) was Turtle Wax (the stuff in the green can).
Don't get me wrong, the other waxes looked great and lasted a while, it just seems that the Turtle wax stays on the car for months.
Again, just my experience. Take it or leave it.
TroyD
04-29-2009, 06:01 PM
Yikes, I've tried just about everything too. (Zaino, Meguiars, Klasse, Zymol, Poorboys, Optimum, S100/P21S, NuFinish...and the old original Turtle Wax, although admittedly it's been awhile on that).
The more different products I try, the more I find myself going back to Zaino. People complain about the "complicated" process of adding a few drops of the ZFX additive to it, well that's nothing compared with the struggle of removing Turtle Wax. Modern waxes and sealants generally wipe of with little or no effort, and for the most part they don't leave all that residue around trim and moldings that needs to be touched up with q-tips like the old school waxes did.
I'll still try out new stuff as it comes along, but I think it's hard to beat Zaino for the combination of looks and durability...as well as ease of application/removal. The main downside to Zaino, is that it has to be ordered online.
schleppy
04-29-2009, 06:14 PM
...that's nothing compared with the struggle of removing Turtle Wax. Modern waxes and sealants generally wipe of with little or no effort, and for the most part they don't leave all that residue around trim and moldings that needs to be touched up with q-tips like the old school waxes did.
That is 100% true. Turtle Wax is an absolutely chore to remove, and god help you if you get it on trim. I've found it doesn't need to sit on the paint for too long to be effective. The sooner you wipe it off the better.
Zaino really wasn't that bad to use. Once you do the whole system once you really just need to maintain it, which is no worse than any other system. My gripe was the cost of it and the lack of local availability.
07WYarisRS
05-06-2009, 05:33 PM
Zaino here....
NXT 2.0 also works great but nothing I have used works better or last longer then Zaino
gokartride
06-17-2009, 02:53 PM
Klasse is also among the most long-lasting.
Cosworth
06-18-2009, 11:28 AM
zaino all the way! it's so easy to apply multiple coats.
regal
06-18-2009, 11:53 AM
Klasse is also among the most long-lasting.
I ended up going with Klasse, I have a porter RO to use with the polish, great screen name btw.
Paul B
01-10-2010, 10:41 AM
I've been using Collinite super doublecoat (#476) for the past few years on both my cars, very cheap and durable wax.
It's a old-style wax, apply it super thin, and do 1-2 panels at a time, or else it's a gigantic workout trying to get it off. Search for it on autopia, you'll find plenty of great reviews.
ROCKLAND TOYOTA
01-10-2010, 10:44 AM
SMART WAX as its a SPONSOR of MICROIMAGE.....
RedRide
01-10-2010, 11:59 AM
The problem with carnuba wax is, as the sun hits it, the wax softens and allows all sorts of grit etc to be imbedded into the wax. This is why a clay bar is often nessary to remove everything.
Polymer based waxes do not have this problem but, they usually do not last as long either.
billk
01-10-2010, 01:44 PM
I have been using Statbright Marine Polish with Teflon since the late 80's. I apply it with a buffer lightly, it hazes over and it is dry. I use the buffer to remove it. I use it on my 96 tacoma and shines as good as when i bought it. I have not washed my yaris here in North Carolina for a month, the weather has been crappy, had salt on it from the roads, but we had rain and it washed right off.
Only thing bad about Starbright, is after removing, it leaves a fine white dust that needs to be removed or it will reharden back into the wax. I always hand wash the car after I wax, so the powder is gone.
http://www.boatersworld.com/product/MP80810978.htm?utm_medium=productsearch&utm_source=google
I buy it locally for around $18, this link price is expensive, and is to show what I use.
regal
01-15-2010, 08:33 AM
I've been using Collinite super doublecoat (#476) for the past few years on both my cars, very cheap and durable wax.
It's a old-style wax, apply it super thin, and do 1-2 panels at a time, or else it's a gigantic workout trying to get it off. Search for it on autopia, you'll find plenty of great reviews.
I applied 476 in November, do you think it will last till march in a PA winter?
DerFlosser
01-15-2010, 11:49 AM
JET SEAL 109
waitntodwnsize
01-19-2010, 01:35 AM
turtle wax seems to last an extremely long time as crazy as it sounds. longest lasting ive evevr used, but the best shine is meguires clay bar/quick detailer, polish, and then nxt 2.0 paste. makes your paint very smooth, clean, and very shiny, plus its relatively inexpensive.
Yaris_Fan
02-10-2010, 12:40 AM
http://www.autogeek.net/finish-kare-1000p-wax.html
Red Horse
02-10-2010, 11:37 PM
I like to try the one called Zymol Solaris Glaze, it supposed to be the number 1 on wax and its only $50,000 link=> http://www.autosupermart.com/store/shop/zymolsolaris.html
Falconia
02-16-2010, 04:51 PM
I have used finnish Korrek brands "Kestovaha" which means longlasting wax. That wax has won many tests in different car magazines. Lasts much longer than Turtle wax.
http://www.korrek.fi/tuotteet/vahat/vahat.html
bzinn 1
02-17-2010, 01:12 AM
some of the best products I have ever used is from here
www.griotsgarage.com their products are professional,the finish lasts for months,it is easy to apply and can be done with buffer or by hand and it wipes back off......
Next month one the sun comes out I will claybar,then rubbing compound the rough spots,then the paint prep,then polish levels up to number 4,then best of show wax......
A bottle of each can be a spendy investment at first but it last for years,I do my car monthly starting in March to December and I after 3 years am finally going to need to buy more products......
their glass polish actually works and removes all water spots effertlessly......
their tire cleaner is so good you will think your tires are brand new like day one.
give them a try if you area serious about a show car shine with clean paint.....their stuff works........it also can be put on in the sun or shade,and the longer you leave it on without wiping off the better it looks........I leave the wax on all night out side even and then wipe off in the morning and the shine is like a mirror even with doing it by hand,no buffer.
KrazyDawg
02-22-2010, 05:00 PM
Does it make a difference if one uses three coats of wax vs one?
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