Yaris Track Review

[03Z33]

I had a chance to take the Yaris out to an open track day this past Sunday at Willow Springs Raceway "Big Willow" track. The event was run by Speedventures who always run a great event with LOTS of track time :thumbsup:

It was my first time out in this car (only had ~850 miles when I got to the track) and had been "breaking in" the car up till the time I got there. I always like to take any new car out to the track at least a few times, just to get to know it better and fully realize its potential. As for mods I just have DF210 springs, OEM 12.4mm front camber bolts (-1.2deg camber), Tanabe axle back exhaust (so I can at least hear if it's on!), and some lightweight 15x7 wheels with DOT R tires (195/55/15 Bridgestone RE555/540S)

I was most impressed with how EASY the car is to drive! It was so much fun getting back in such a lightweight FWD car and being able to just cruise it near the limits without feeling like your pushing that hard. The car got a lot of funny looks and gained a lot of respect once people realized it's capable of keeping up with (and passing!) a lot of higher dollar machinery :wink: I went up with a good friend who drives a Lotus Elise (which I got to co-drive :tongue: ) and was actually faster than him, though he is fairly new to track driving... some of the other "slower" cars included:

BMW E46 M3 (street tires)
Nissan 350Z (stock on street tires)
Masserati (all stock)
Mini Cooper S (modified with race tires)
NA Miata (race tires)
etc...

Now I realize a lot of these drivers probably don't push their cars as hard as they can, but it still feels great to pass some of those cars in a $10K econo-car :smile:

Overall, I felt it was a worthwhile experience, and though track duty is not the primary purpose for this car, I think I'll end up taking it out at least a few times a year :thumbup: The only upgrades that would really be nice to do for track use would be:

LSD
shorter gearing
stiffer suspension (coilovers/sways)
seat (more support)
harnesses (safety and support)
rollbar (safety)

Everything else held up great including brakes, clutch, power, etc.. I hope to see more Yaris owners taking their cars out to their local tracks!!!

Pics:

http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/12/web/2436000-2436999/2436283_4_full.jpg

http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/12/web/2436000-2436999/2436283_2_full.jpg

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the Elise on track :smile:

http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/12/web/2436000-2436999/2436283_5_full.jpg

http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/12/web/2436000-2436999/2436283_6_full.jpg

[jmew0ng]

hmm streets of willow... have you seen the black echo there?! XD
from echodrivers.com?

[badhabitz]

just wait till i get my suspension and wheels and tires ill go with u to the track

[03Z33]

hmm streets of willow... have you seen the black echo there?! XD
from echodrivers.com?

This event was at the "big track" but yes, I have seen the black echo with work wheels! very nice car and very original! I think he was chosen for the Best Motoring Touge Challenger right? Last I saw the car was at a meet at BTune :thumbsup:

[03Z33]

just wait till i get my suspension and wheels and tires ill go with u to the track

For sure Ken! I'd love to see more of us out there. Are you going to pick up the Cuscos from BP? You should! Don't waste money on the C-One stuff, it's nice but they're not coilovers and probably won't be any different than the Cuscos performance wise...

[Katana]

Do you guys want a link to see how the 1.3lt Yaris runs at Megara track in Greece?

[03Z33]

Sure, is it uploaded to youtube or something?

[Katana]

I have this problem.The Video is on .mp4 format.Do u want to upload it in this format or not?

[ChinoCharles]

:drool: :drool: :drool: :drool: :drool:

[Katana]

Guys I cannot upload the video on Youtube.After it reaches 2%, nothing is happening dammit!

[60 Somethings]

Great report!

As a member of the ALFA Owners of SoCA in late 70's, I spent several Sundays out at now gone Riverside Raceway during the five times/yr club Time Trials. (One of those usually took place at Willow Springs, but never got there myself.)

A few observations and a question: See the full face helmuts, but looks like long sleeeves, 5-point harnesses and Roll-bars was not required by this group? These were Club required items back then and part of the pre-tracktime Tech Inspection. Would think Insurance requirements would beeven stricter now. (We had a spider flip after sliding into the dirt on Turn 1 - sort of a high-speed "S" - and the driver was not really hurt.)

What about oil? Back then, drivers would drive out to the track on their normal 20-50W and then change to straight 50W because of the added heat of running at high speed (like about 110 MPH thru turn 9). I did a couple of sedate laps around the track at lunchtime - when we were allowed to do so - and my '74 Spider got might hot by the end due to the higher speeds and operating temps. (By the way, I got boo'd by the Boy Scouts setting up camp in Turn 6 for my speed and poor line through there - sort of brings you down to earth.)

Two nights ago, much to my wife's protest, I chased a new Mustang thru a 270 Degree freeeway on-ramp - first time I had really pushed the car, It did very well, especially the stock tires. After driving small cars much of my life you learn to stay close and "race them in the curves", they're going to beat you on the straights.

I also agree, the LB should be geared a little lower - 2nd is too tall and 3rd, 4th & 5th are too close together, IMO.

Like the Pics, too. Thanks.

[03Z33]

Guys I cannot upload the video on Youtube.After it reaches 2%, nothing is happening dammit!

Sorry I'm not much help with the videos... hopefully someone else can better assist? Maybe if you email it to someone who can host it?

[03Z33]

Great report!

As a member of the ALFA Owners of SoCA in late 70's, I spent several Sundays out at now gone Riverside Raceway during the five times/yr club Time Trials. (One of those usually took place at Willow Springs, but never got there myself.)

A few observations and a question: See the full face helmuts, but looks like long sleeeves, 5-point harnesses and Roll-bars was not required by this group? These were Club required items back then and part of the pre-tracktime Tech Inspection. Would think Insurance requirements would beeven stricter now. (We had a spider flip after sliding into the dirt on Turn 1 - sort of a high-speed "S" - and the driver was not really hurt.)

What about oil? Back then, drivers would drive out to the track on their normal 20-50W and then change to straight 50W because of the added heat of running at high speed (like about 110 MPH thru turn 9). I did a couple of sedate laps around the track at lunchtime - when we were allowed to do so - and my '74 Spider got might hot by the end due to the higher speeds and operating temps. (By the way, I got boo'd by the Boy Scouts setting up camp in Turn 6 for my speed and poor line through there - sort of brings you down to earth.)

Two nights ago, much to my wife's protest, I chased a new Mustang thru a 270 Degree freeeway on-ramp - first time I had really pushed the car, It did very well, especially the stock tires. After driving small cars much of my life you learn to stay close and "race them in the curves", they're going to beat you on the straights.

I also agree, the LB should be geared a little lower - 2nd is too tall and 3rd, 4th & 5th are too close together, IMO.

Like the Pics, too. Thanks.

I attend Alfa Club events as well... they actually had a school event this same weekend at the "Streets Course".

The safety equipment depends more on the event organizer. Most organizers will allow you to run with the following:

closed toe shoes
long sleeve pants
M rated or higher helmet
roll bar (for convertibles only)
gloves recommended but optional
long sleeve shirts recommended but optional

The Alfa Club, BMWCCA, and PCA/POC are usually the most strict though and usually also require:

Long sleeve cotton pants AND shirt
fire extinguisher
gloves
five point harness
SA rated helmet (no M)


As far as oil goes, most modern cars won't see more than 200-230 deg. oil temps which the standard weight oils are more than capable of handling. For extended track use, or higher HP cars, it doesn't hut to run a heavier synthetic oil for some extra safety margin.

I always see videos and hear about the old Riverside Speedway, wish I could have been there back then! :biggrin: You should come check out the next track day if you're free, we can usually take passengers for ride-alongs if you're not interested in getting out there and driving yourself.:biggrin:

[argylesocks]

... my '74 Spider

droooool.

http://members.arstechnica.com/x/hydrashok/lucky.jpg

[60 Somethings]

Here's what those two are looking at (circa 1996).

The green one is mine (still own it - in storage right now), and the red GTV was my daughters - she sold it after their son was born. She grew up riding on the Pkg Shelf of the Spider, she drove our '76 Alfetta around Laguna Seca in the parade an lunchtime during 1985 Monterey Historic Auto Races, and she LOVED her '74 GTV (which she bought herself). As she says, she has already owned her dream car!!!

[03Z33]

Very :w00t:

[jdmkenji]

Glad to see someone racing their Yaris. I've ran Willow Springs Raceway, Irwindale speedway, Button Willow and various tracks here in Nevada... both for time trials and drifting. Definitely fun to do... hope to see more Yaris enthusiasts taking the Yaris to the next level.

[Katana]

How did you manage to drift your Yaris???

I need advices!

[03Z33]

How did you manage to drift your Yaris???

I need advices!

I fitted a Hayabusa motor in the rear hatch to drive the rear wheels :eek: hahaha:rolleyes:

The type of track events I take the Yaris too are not drift events, they are grip events. It's very difficult to drift a front wheel drive car on tarmac. In gravel it's another story :wink:

I have been known to use the e-brake to whip the car around 180 deg though :headbang: Drum brakes actually do a nice job of locking up the rear :laugh:

[Katana]

Thanks!

I am trying to get used in using the e-brake!!!

[ChinoCharles]

Second gear usually revs up so high it scares me and I can't gather my balls up enough to grab the e-brake. This cars a riot.

[03Z33]

You can place some plastic lunch trays under the rear wheels for practice :wink:

[SmellyTofu]

I must say even in standard trim, it's not a bad car to got a thrashing on the track. Apart from the need for a LSD (left foot braking to hold the spinning wheels maybe??), it's quite adequate to pull respectable times on twisty tracks when you compare it to other cars that have more power and some suspension modifications.

[Katana]

I agree with the last comment.

In a greek track, a 1.3lt Yaris did the same lap time with a car that had the same weight and 100 more hp.

[03Z33]

fixed pics :smile: anyone else have any track reviews?

[KSIbucky]

cool

[Katana]

Guys I recorded a new video today, but it is vertical and not horizontal.Do u want to see it?Any ideas on how to turn it upside down?

[Katana]

Check it out!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=inU2wGh4SD8

[03Z33]

Nice! I feel dizzy now from turning my head :biggrin: :bellyroll: :drinking:

[Katana]

Thanks mate!

In fact, I improved my personnal best at about 5 seconds!

[YarisGuy]

Good stuff man, always good to see our little cars on track :biggrin:

What times were you running compared to the other "slower" cars?

[Katana]

Generally, the setup of the Yaris helps it to turn better than more expensive cars!

Thanks for your kind words.

[03Z33]

Thanks mate!

In fact, I improved my personnal best at about 5 seconds!

That's great! Is it all driving or did you change some parts of the car? What tires do you use?

[Katana]

It is all driving, cause a friend of mine gave me some extra useful advices.

Since the last time that I was on track, have only installed a CAI.I use my regular road tires, but I increased the pressure from 30psi to 38psi(front) and 35psi(back).

[Pars]

It is all driving, cause a friend of mine gave me some extra useful advices.

Since the last time that I was on track, have only installed a CAI.I use my regular road tires, but I increased the pressure from 30psi to 38psi(front) and 35psi(back).


Why increase the tire pressure? I'm guessing it's to keep car from ridding on it's sidewall? And, less pressure in the back to keep the rear end planted...

[03Z33]

Why increase the tire pressure? I'm guessing it's to keep car from ridding on it's sidewall? And, less pressure in the back to keep the rear end planted...

That sounds about right... since he's probably using an all season type tire lowering the pressure won't do much for grip and upping the pressure will probably help reduce the sidewall flex more. If you run a sticky street tire or an R-compound you will usually do the opposite and lower the pressure to compensate for the added pressure when the tires get hot.

[HTM Yaris]

Love the yaris on track . I t doesn't have blinding speed , but you don't have to lift in many corners . The stock goodyears have changed my mind about goodyear . I usually go to Roebling Road in Savannah GA or Lowe's Motorspeedway in Charlotte or Carolina Motorsports Park in Kershaw . One of my fave place is tailofthedragon.com . 318 turns in 11 miles . YES PURE Heaven on EARTH . If you ever get a chance to do the dragon , DO IT . Just remember , the dragon will bite ..... check my sig that is me doin the dragon . Notice the cam on the side of the car . I got some kool footage of the Yaris (Coryn) making some bikers ... relent :) EVO/STi/Elise peeps all hate Coryn :) They hate when I flash them :)

Here is some footage of me and my friends on track in other cars ...

http://www.hightach.com/videos/djm.mpg

http://www.toptul-usa.com/motorsports/videos/seattime_04.mpg

http://www.hightach.com/videos/onelap03.mpg

http://www.hightach.com/videos/04_hightach_cruise.mpg

[03Z33]

Nice vids, but now Yaris footage :confused: :wink:

Tail of the Dragon is a great road, That video must have been pretty old, probaby right before Sharif crashed into the tunnel :biggrin:

[HTM Yaris]

Actually , Sharif and the white Z wrecked in the tunnel just a few minutes after we wrapped up the filming .

Here is a really kool vid of Sharif


http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=915455754

This vid has it all . Kool car , Kool chick , and even a story line . Its about 5-6 minutes long

enjoy

still gathering Yaris footage ...........:)

[kngrsll]

you know sharif? ive met him several times, and was there when he had teh accident. hes close to several of my good friends.

[Katana]

Nice!!!!

[cali yaris]

03Z33, what color group did you run in?

[03Z33]

03Z33, what color group did you run in?

blue group