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GeneralDon7
04-25-2009, 12:40 AM
I'm not sure if anyone else has posted this article yet but I was quite insulted when I read it

(AOL Autos) -- The little two-passenger smart fortwo is the most fuel-efficient car (not counting hybrids) in the U.S. market, with EPA fuel economy ratings of 33 mpg city, 41 highway. For high-mileage frugality, it appears to beat the five-passenger Toyota Yaris and its 29/35-mpg ratings by a long shot.

I'm not sure about anyone else but I at minimum get 38 if not 40's on my yaris. :thumbdown:

frownonfun
04-25-2009, 12:44 AM
yeah i read this one... i wasn't insulted though cause it goes on to explain that the smart car should use premium gasoline which closes the fuel expense gap. and i don't get 40mpg. i have gotten that once or twice but most of the time i get low 30's. i only use it in the city and i swear this particular city i live in is obsessed with stop lights. still i think low to mid 30's is pretty good.

GeneralDon7
04-25-2009, 01:05 AM
I did read the rest, and got less insulted as i read but that first line, i was like :iono:, and I drive about 50/50, if i drive 100 hwy i seem to get up to 48:biggrin:

tomato
04-25-2009, 01:13 AM
I drive mostly city, and get low 30's, at most, right now. The SMART is a cute car, and got my attention, too, for a while, but no trunk space at all, and even less acceleration than the Yaris, sooooo...

dallas
04-25-2009, 03:03 AM
Don't forget you cant take 4 people in a Smartcar and they dont like hiway speeds for long, I was told by a used car dealer that a lot of used Diesel models they end up with have blow by which maybe caused by a urban commuter car used in our vast country run at 70-80 mph on the hiways.

Red Horse
04-25-2009, 04:29 AM
I never get below 35 mpg since I got my yaris, city or traffic jam and I have a lead foot.

captainm27
04-25-2009, 02:15 PM
Why should this come as a surprise? The smartfortwo is a smaller car, with a smaller engine. Logic dictates that it will obviously get better gas mileage. If your insulted by this, than you should be insulted by any other car that gets better gas mileage than the yaris. Sheesh!

frownonfun
04-25-2009, 02:18 PM
Why should this come as a surprise? The smartfortwo is a smaller car, with a smaller engine. Logic dictates that it will obviously get better gas mileage. If your insulted by this, than you should be insulted by any other car that gets better gas mileage than the yaris. Sheesh!


other than the smart and hybrids, there really aren't any.

captainm27
04-25-2009, 02:40 PM
other than the smart and hybrids, there really aren't any.

Here's 3 more (excluding the smart) from Europe.

http://www.hybridcars.com/environment/lusting-europe-illegal-high-mpg-cars-25323.html

detroiter
04-25-2009, 03:42 PM
I find it humorous that they (Smart) never tells you that it requires premium fuel. A "fuel efficient" 1.0 litre 3 cylinder car that requires premium fuel...rediculous.

frownonfun
04-25-2009, 04:52 PM
Here's 3 more (excluding the smart) from Europe.

http://www.hybridcars.com/environment/lusting-europe-illegal-high-mpg-cars-25323.html


see many of those in jersey do you? i sure don't in texas.

Ed_
04-25-2009, 04:56 PM
I get around 32 combined and the other day I got 37.5 on all highway, don't know how you all get over 40 let alone 48?

captainm27
04-25-2009, 08:40 PM
other than the smart and hybrids, there really aren't any.

see many of those in jersey do you? i sure don't in texas.

Those models are only from Europe. I was just making a statement about how there are more cars than just the smart and the prius that get better mpg than the Yaris. They are not necessarily here in the U.S.A., but they do exists, like the ones mentioned on the link.

Kal-El
04-25-2009, 11:29 PM
I'm not sure if anyone else has posted this article yet but I was quite insulted when I read it

(AOL Autos) -- The little two-passenger smart fortwo is the most fuel-efficient car (not counting hybrids) in the U.S. market, with EPA fuel economy ratings of 33 mpg city, 41 highway. For high-mileage frugality, it appears to beat the five-passenger Toyota Yaris and its 29/35-mpg ratings by a long shot.

I'm not sure about anyone else but I at minimum get 38 if not 40's on my yaris. :thumbdown:

These numbers are what the EPA has determined in their testing (new "real world" testing started in '08). Most of us easily beat the 29/35/36 rating. Keep in mind that this is true with most cars now (for those that don't drive like idiots). People complained about the old EPA's numbers (as being to high) so they created a testing system which drive cars over speed limits (as many people do) or stop and go city traffic and with AC on. People with Smarts are probably exceding the 41 rating. I hear many people with Honda Fits say they regularly get 40 mpg on average when it's only rated at 27/33.

What's wrong with the article is the fact that there comparing the Smart to anything at all. The Yaris is twice the freaking size and they seem to be suggesting that the Yaris could or should match the Smart.

GeneralDon7
04-26-2009, 01:10 AM
I guess I should have rephrased that I wasn't insulted per say, but defiantly laughed when they said by a "long shot". I'm curious what an actual smart drive gets:iono:, if a lot of users here get quite a bit above the EPA estimated rating.

sqcomp
04-26-2009, 10:35 AM
I just started getting a bit over 43 mpg over the last 5 fillups (up from 40-41 regularly). I couldn't be more pleased with the Yaris. You can keep the SMART car. It is unique looking but...I'll stick with Toyota service and value.

eric81
04-26-2009, 04:59 PM
Okay... so a smart car, with no room inside, no real HP, and a very tiny 3 cylinder engine that uses ONLY top of the line gas gets better MPG than the Yaris. Besides the 1 gallon of paint to paint the entire car twice over, what else can you do to a smart car? The Yaris has plenty of after market parts out right now, and we have room enough for 4 "normal sized" passangers, not just anerexic asians with growing disorders. (Not to be mean, rude, or racist towards anyone) The Yaris is a better car overall, and as long as WE know that, they can have their stupid smart cars, Four two's, and whatever else they can come up with that has less power and room than the average scooter. Maybe this should have gone in the "rant" section.

Kioshi
04-27-2009, 01:19 PM
why dont they compare the smart to the iQ ;)......that will throw it in the trash.