View Full Version : fog lights, cost of installing them at the dealership?
kuyachris84
04-28-2009, 04:10 PM
Anyone know how much Toyota would charge to install some fog lights on an 08 yaris liftback?
I would like to get some and just wondering if anyone had experience getting their fog lights through a dealership and how much it cost them to put them in. I'd do it myself but I don't know anything bout wiring in a car. ><;
devinlamothe
04-28-2009, 04:45 PM
Good luck. I've spoken to a few dealerships here (in Canada) and they look at me like I'm nuts. They wouldn't touch my car with a 10 foot pole.
Had to just man it out and do it myself ... it's really not that hard if you go the OEM route with the headlight stalk! Plus there are some great DIY's here which is where I finally got the courage to do mine.
kuyachris84
04-28-2009, 04:51 PM
yeah i just called a dealership and the lady in the service department said they don't usually do those... and sounded like it was a surprise question to even ask for such a thing. =/
Meteorite_Marty
04-28-2009, 07:09 PM
My dealer said there is no official Toyota kit to do it afterwards on car that came without them from the factory. Toyota fogs are only installed at the factory during assembly.
Before I did my own fog light install, the dealerships I called said that they have never installed fog lights onto a car that came without them, and that it is never done because of the high costs involved and inexperience of most dealership technicians (regarding automotive electrical). I asked them to search their service instructions manuals for fog light installs, and they said there was nothing provided to them to even attempt the job.
They went on to mention there was no official Toyota kit to do this, and the fog lights in the Accessories guide are just the housings alone, no wiring or switches. They said if I brought in an aftermarket kit it would take 3-4 hours labour for a non-wired Yaris, and more money for a harness and interior wiring (another $2000, what a crock!).
The official Toyota Accessory Parts Listing has Fog Lamps priced at $400 for just the housings, and 1.5 hours labour to do the work. The labour costs around $150 on top.
Me being me, I tend to be skeptical. I have therefore obtained an official Toyota manual in PDF format, outlining EXACTLY how to install the fogs lights, per factory specfications (thanks INZYaris1). I went even further to install my own Toyota headlight/foglight/turnsignal control stalk, the way it would be from factory.
So basically everything Toyota dealerships said about fogs,was proven false with this PDF I have acquired. Fogs can be installed after the fact, the car is already prewired for fogs, and it can be done with after market kits, for a lot cheaper!
kuyachris84
04-28-2009, 07:35 PM
hmmm garm sells the kit for $99 bucks.... anyone use his kit? How hard was it to install? Any splicing of wires involved? Easy to follow instructions? I may just buy that and try to install it myself like u did marty.... hmmm
:confused:
DerFlosser
04-28-2009, 10:30 PM
hmmm garm sells the kit for $99 bucks.... anyone use his kit? How hard was it to install? Any splicing of wires involved? Easy to follow instructions? I may just buy that and try to install it myself like u did marty.... hmmm
:confused:
I bought one and will do a write-up soon. It appears to be very straight forward. :thumbsup:
Meteorite_Marty
04-29-2009, 12:21 AM
hmmm garm sells the kit for $99 bucks.... anyone use his kit? How hard was it to install? Any splicing of wires involved? Easy to follow instructions? I may just buy that and try to install it myself like u did marty.... hmmm
:confused:
If you get a kit from Garm, he also sells the wiring adapters to make everything plug and play with factory wiring. If you go and replace your factory headlight/turn signal stalk with a headlight/turn signal/fog light combo stalk, it is totally plug and play and not a single wire has to be cut or spliced. Everything is done on the engines-side of the car, and nothing internal (except one relay which plugs in).
This is what I did. The stalk method is the easiest, as you do not have to do ANY interior wiring through your firewall, or dismantling of your interior panels. Plus, your dashboard signal for fogs (like the one you see when your headlights are on) will light up when they are on, using the stalk method. This way is totally factory specification.
I have an official Toyota manuals in PDF, on how to remove the steering wheel (if you replace your stalk), and install the fog lights as per factory specifications. I have never run fogs, and I was able to follow all instructions clearly to complete the job.
Meteorite_Marty
04-29-2009, 12:25 AM
Thanks to 1NZYaris1
"If you want to save some coin talk to Garm at microimage ,
he is now selling his kit's with the correct relay + the wiring to plug into
the relay box under the bonnet.
all you will need then is the stalk"
Again, this is what I did.
Meteorite_Marty
04-29-2009, 12:31 AM
This post will outline what you need from Garm. This is the kit I ordered, with the same wiring adapter and relay. The instructions you see are direct from Toyota, and are what I followed. I used a headlight/turn signal/foglight control stalk as well (to replace the factory headlight/turn signal stalk) which made the install simple. Thanks to 1NZYaris1 for the help.
http://www.yarisworld.com/forums/showthread.php?t=15197&highlight=fog+light+relay
YarisSedan
04-29-2009, 12:33 AM
Someone needs to compile all the information and make a sticky
Meteorite_Marty
04-29-2009, 12:36 AM
Someone needs to compile all the information and make a sticky
Yes. I feel I am repeating myself (which I don't mind). :)
cm07yaris
04-29-2009, 12:38 AM
hmmm garm sells the kit for $99 bucks.... anyone use his kit? How hard was it to install? Any splicing of wires involved? Easy to follow instructions? I may just buy that and try to install it myself like u did marty.... hmmm
:confused:
Make a trip up here, I'll install them for you!
kuyachris84
04-29-2009, 12:56 AM
Make a trip up here, I'll install them for you!
damn dude... i might have to do that again LOL.
Might as well buy some projector head lights since matt should know how to install em too.
uncleyaris
04-29-2009, 01:30 AM
Thanks to 1NZYaris1
"If you want to save some coin talk to Garm at microimage ,
he is now selling his kit's with the correct relay + the wiring to plug into
the relay box under the bonnet.
all you will need then is the stalk"
Again, this is what I did.
Wanna install mine!!! We can work out the $ :bow::bow:
Meteorite_Marty
04-30-2009, 06:08 PM
Wanna install mine!!! We can work out the $ :bow::bow:
If you get the foglight/headlight/turnsignal stalk to replace your headlight/turnsignal, as well as Garm's kit, I could help/direct you. This is the route I went.
I didn't use the parking brake area rocker switch method.
MadMax
04-30-2009, 07:17 PM
It's not that hard, I had a little problems understanding mine but in the end I figured it out. The biggest concern was pulling a weeks-old car apart, but I got it back together for the most part. There are great instructions on here and the bits that are different are easy to figure out.
I am contemplating HIDs, but I think I would like to eventually go for some new headlights as well so I figure I might as well do both at the same time. Money is the biggest constraint at the moment, but I'll save up and will convert the headlights on my 08 HB in the near future once I figure out what I want to do...
Cheers! M2
DerFlosser
05-01-2009, 09:18 AM
To really make it easy on yourself, do as Marty states and purchase the foglight integrated headlight stalk. It makes this job a walk in the park. If you can hold on a few more days, I will do a write-up on the install. All you'll need to do is buy the kit from Garm and source the foglight integrated headlight stalk. If you have an 09 you will need the bezels for the bumper as they are different from the early cars. I am assuming that the hardest part of the whole install will be installing the stalk but I will do the write-up and hopefully it will help somebody.:thumbsup:
Phaeton
05-01-2009, 09:48 AM
Where do you buy the turn factory foglight turn signal stalk?
Meteorite_Marty
05-01-2009, 07:58 PM
It's not that hard, I had a little problems understanding mine but in the end I figured it out. The biggest concern was pulling a weeks-old car apart, but I got it back together for the most part. There are great instructions on here and the bits that are different are easy to figure out.
I am contemplating HIDs, but I think I would like to eventually go for some new headlights as well so I figure I might as well do both at the same time. Money is the biggest constraint at the moment, but I'll save up and will convert the headlights on my 08 HB in the near future once I figure out what I want to do...
Cheers! M2
Its not a "factory" install, the way you did it. I don't want to void my warranty, so I did it all as per the Toyota instructions.
Meteorite_Marty
05-01-2009, 08:00 PM
To really make it easy on yourself, do as Marty states and purchase the foglight integrated headlight stalk. It makes this job a walk in the park. If you can hold on a few more days, I will do a write-up on the install. All you'll need to do is buy the kit from Garm and source the foglight integrated headlight stalk. If you have an 09 you will need the bezels for the bumper as they are different from the early cars. I am assuming that the hardest part of the whole install will be installing the stalk but I will do the write-up and hopefully it will help somebody.:thumbsup:
Stalk is not too bad to remove. You will need torque screw driver bits to remove the steering wheel housing. Then of course you have to take the steering wheel off after that. My steering wheel was tight, and took a bit of force. Again, follow Toyota instructions for removing a steering wheel and you will be golden.
uncleyaris
05-01-2009, 10:55 PM
I think I'll hire Marty for anything I need installed!!!! You da MAn.
TitaniumBarbell
05-01-2009, 11:01 PM
Toyota fog lights dealer installation: $75.00 with me.
Meteorite_Marty
05-02-2009, 12:23 AM
Toyota fog lights dealer installation: $75.00 with me.
Nothing against Puerto Rico, but how much is labor there for a mechanic. Here (Canada) its $75 to $100 an hour.
Meteorite_Marty
05-02-2009, 12:25 AM
Where do you buy the turn factory foglight turn signal stalk?
Here's the link to buy the stalk. Took me 2-seconds to find in the forums.
http://www.trademotion.com/partlocator/index.cfm?action=getLocator&siteid=214001&chapter=ARM8327&appSectionid=2561&groupid=51860&subgroupid=2566&componentid=3789&make=34&model=Yaris&year=2007&catalogid=2
1NZYaris1
05-02-2009, 10:46 PM
Here's the link to buy the stalk. Took me 2-seconds to find in the forums.
http://www.trademotion.com/partlocator/index.cfm?action=getLocator&siteid=214001&chapter=ARM8327&appSectionid=2561&groupid=51860&subgroupid=2566&componentid=3789&make=34&model=Yaris&year=2007&catalogid=2
Here is the link for TRD Spark's same price but a vendor here
http://www.trademotion.com/partlocator/index.cfm?action=searchCatalogOEM&siteid=214631
:thumbsup:
DerFlosser
05-02-2009, 11:52 PM
I installed everything today so that, when I get the stalk, it's the last thing to do. Everything was very straightforward to this point. I just have to install the stalk and I will be in business.
DerFlosser
05-05-2009, 10:19 AM
Ok,
So...this a.m. I installed the new stalk before I went to work and it was surprising simple. It took me about 30 minutes as a first timer being extra vigilant of things. If I had to do it again....it'd take about 5 minutes. Anyhow, the fog lights are/were already hooked up and ready to go and the car came pre-equipped with the fuse in place. So, I installed stalk 84140-52151 and turned the lights on......golden. Everything works EXCEPT for the fog lights!!!! No lights and no indicator in the instrument panel. I have no idea why they are not on as everything is wired correctly. The only variable is the fact that I have my DRL's disabled but I don't think that this should cause a problem but I cannot say for sure. Any help or insight from somebody with experience would be great, thanks!
omendt
05-05-2009, 11:13 AM
Has anyone installed these foglights and used the rocker switch instead of the stalk replacement method? I see that it is easier to go with the stalk, but I am curious as to how much more difficult it is with the switch (I like the idea of having the switch to the side for some reason).
Coming up on owning my Yaris for a year and wanted to post for the first time after reading all the great threads. I am going to be buying the MicroImage Foglight set next week.
Thank you in advance for the insight!
TitaniumBarbell
05-05-2009, 02:11 PM
Nothing against Puerto Rico, but how much is labor there for a mechanic. Here (Canada) its $75 to $100 an hour.
$80.00 - 150.00, depends if you go to the city or town.
DerFlosser
05-05-2009, 08:51 PM
Put the DRL module back in and it works like a gem. Thanks to CTScott for tipping me off! I love the fact that the fogs are a twist of the fingers and the cluster indicates they are on.....OEM is the way to go with this mod.:thumbsup:
omendt
05-12-2009, 05:35 PM
I was about to pull the trigger and pick up the Micro Image Fog Light kit, but wanted to see what was the level of expertise needed to install them into a 2008 Yaris Liftback?
Thanks in advance for anyone's opinion!
ROCKLAND TOYOTA
05-12-2009, 05:38 PM
Has anyone installed these foglights and used the rocker switch instead of the stalk replacement method? I see that it is easier to go with the stalk, but I am curious as to how much more difficult it is with the switch (I like the idea of having the switch to the side for some reason).
Coming up on owning my Yaris for a year and wanted to post for the first time after reading all the great threads. I am going to be buying the MicroImage Foglight set next week.
Thank you in advance for the insight!
i used rocker switch and never looked back......
the_boss
05-24-2009, 07:56 PM
my dealer charges 65$ an hour and they said it takes 2hours to install them...65$ x 2 = 130$ plus the kit 99$ (not from theme off course) 230$.. And they sell the whole kit installed for 500$..and taxes are not inclued in prices...:cry:
MadMax
05-24-2009, 08:05 PM
I was about to pull the trigger and pick up the Micro Image Fog Light kit, but wanted to see what was the level of expertise needed to install them into a 2008 Yaris Liftback?
Thanks in advance for anyone's opinion!
It is easily doable with standard tools. My car was just a few weeks old when I did mine, and tearing off the front bumper and all the area around the wiper blades is discerning, but it definitely doable.
Cheers! M2
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