Any good with electrical?

[Taiyaki]

Im going to buy the power window and locks off A1 and I have a Clifford RS 3.5 laying around that I want to put on too. Anyone good with this kind of stuff?
Yoshi I remember you use to do your own woofer installs, do you know about alarms also? haha

If not then can anyone recommend me to a shop? I called Jackson at Security and Sounds but they said they wont touch the aftermarket locks, they order the parts from toyota only.

[808_Yaris]

Maybe call warren at mobile car audio, they did my alarm.

[gwasabi]

wow you know warren? hahahah he used to work with me before. I think he moved to the pearl city one. BRing your ca around Taka, I can hook the alarm up. Power windows I gotta t ake a look. IF the 07 and 09 are same then I should be able to install the alarm.

[808_Yaris]

^yeah he's a nice guy, very helpful with the alarm since he ran into some problems.

[Taiyaki]

Sweet awesome! I didnt order the power locks or windows yet but ill do that tonight. Right now im installing my double din, tach, debadge, get my saftey check again, THEN put my HIDs, and if still have enough sun light my SRI. so happy

[808_Yaris]

post some pics!

[Taiyaki]

my tach isnt working! :[ i hooked everything up and I get no reading. But got my double din done. do you guys know whats up with my tach?

[gwasabi]

tapped into the wrong wire probably. You probably tapped into nothing. Did you stick it into the D Connector? if you did and your car didn't come with tach, you don't have a tach signal going into your tach

[Taiyaki]

Idk this guy and others with 09s said to tap into a wire, but when I did, still never got a read. It lights up so I know my other wires are ok, I tapped my ground to the stereo black wire, but tapped it to the car and still dont work.

I had the same problem with my celica, and I tapped it threw the firewall to the tach fuse under the hood. I want to try but cant find it on the yaris.

Someone said I might have blew the somthing and broke it, MAN! this tach was super expensive! I would cry

[gwasabi]

use a Multimeter to see if a signal is being sent into that wire or connector port

[Taiyaki]

I have one, but like many other tools i have, I have no idea how to use it. Could i use a test light?

[gwasabi]

just put the positive where the wire goes and the negative to a ground. Then turn the car on. If you get power on the Multimeter it means its the right hole or wire if u dont it's a dead lead.

[gwasabi]

if u like meet me tomorrow at school and I'll take a look at it. I have time around 3 let me know

[Taiyaki]

I end work at 4pm if your still free after that I can meet

[gwasabi]

I'm free after 630 I get final at 430

[Taiyaki]

shoots works for me.

[gwasabi]

k just remember to call me tomorrow I'll try t call you too.

[Taiyaki]

roger

[battleversiontc]

its the greenish blue wire on the obd2 diagnostic port right near the hood latch its the farthest left wire the last left column thats the tach wire never use a test light on these obd 2 cars always use a computer safe test light and yes there is a difference between the two test lights. you cant blow up a tach if anybody told you that there stupid you can fry a tach but only if you reverse polarity it by putting power to ground and ground to power but not by trying to hook up a tach wire. if it didnt come with a tach you still have a tach wire. the wiring is the same through every yaris even if they didnt come with a tach its still wired because the ecu still needs a tach signal to know when to fire the coils since there is no distributor

[Taiyaki]

That was the first wire I tried, but after it didnt work, I was told that 09's have a different wire. So I tried that wire and still doesnt work. unless i tapped the wrong green wire.

this is the green wire i tapped on the OBD2
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v520/02Sakura/P4250007.jpg


and this is the wire other told me to tap and still didnt work

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v520/02Sakura/P4250009.jpg

haha and i thought it would be a quick 30min install...

[battleversiontc]

um imma go look at the schematic sheet real quick

[battleversiontc]

actually try the blue wires i know they come in pairs thats why thats how my 08 is

[Taiyaki]

haha ok ill try all the blue ones, now this wont like blow up my tach will it? haha

[Taiyaki]

ok well im bored, so im going to go try all the blue wires now, and will let you know. haha

[battleversiontc]

no it wont but its the lt green wire thats what my wire diagram says are you sure you getting main power i would try re grounding it to the chassis and running the power wire to the cig you might be not getting enough voltage and what kinda of tach is it anyways

[Taiyaki]

I grounded it to the chassis and powered to the deck. I have a Pivot tach, my friend just came back from Japan so I told him to pick it up for me. 24,800 yen didnt want to pay that much but it is a sexy tach~ haha

[battleversiontc]

what colors come out of the tach

[battleversiontc]

red is ignition orange is constant 12 volts black is ground white is rpm tach signal i found my old manual so the orange you using is the 12 volts constant wire and you should be able to hook the white wire to the brown wire i believe thats the tach its the same pin as my 08 but my color is green

[Taiyaki]

Ok I jsut tried all of the blue wires and still no go, and idk why but now the backlight stays on.

The wires coming out is Orange, red, white, black. all with gray dots.

[battleversiontc]

ok well how you have it hooked up follow my post that i just posted those are the correct placement of the wiring refer to post 28

[battleversiontc]

let me know if that works

[Taiyaki]

oh crap! haha
I dont know the names like 12volt consistant, but if im tapping from my deck it would be

[tach to deck]

red to yellow
black to well ground
orange to red
white to tach

[battleversiontc]

red to red
orange to yellow
black to ground
white to the lt brown wire in the obd2 plug

[battleversiontc]

that is why its not working and i realized it once i saw the pics and looked at my manual

[battleversiontc]

so hopefully that works out for you

[Taiyaki]

Sweet it works! but my backlight is on even with the car off. maybe i shouldnt tap to the yellow on the deck? ill try search i remember seeing lots of post when trying to look for how to fix mines. thanks man

[battleversiontc]

actually tap the red and orange wires together that will make it turn off with the key. no problem glad to help

[Taiyaki]

Oh! of course.why didnt i think of that. :tongue: haha
thanks again man

[battleversiontc]

haha but yeah no problems

[Taiyaki]

well that was fun. hahaha now im bored. haha

[battleversiontc]

well cant help u there lol go test drive the beast

[Taiyaki]

haha not much of a beast just stock, i was hoping to put my SRI in today, but the darn tach. and now the double din is giving me problems. haha "f-my-life" haha

[gwasabi]

so wat taka still need me to check it out or no? lol Dude devin is like Friggin master when it comes to electronics in the car lol

[battleversiontc]

lol

[Taiyaki]

hey maybe we can have a install day, for my power lock/windows and alarm!

[fuji]

i would actually like to watch the install process if you guys don't mind. With all the stuff in my car, a alarm is sounding like a good idea.

[fuji]

what are your guy's recommendations???

[gwasabi]

Viper or clifford

[battleversiontc]

viper

[Taiyaki]

^+1

[Taiyaki]

Alright! got my power lock/windows in the mail today.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v520/02Sakura/IMG_4672.jpg

Hey battleversiontc, would you be willing to help me and thomes? you seem to be pro with electrical stuff.

Pizza and soda is on me!

[808_Yaris]

Mmmm pizza

[battleversiontc]

where you located yeah ill come help when where time i have a wire diagram also if you guys need it for do the alarm

[Taiyaki]

I live in kaimuki/Kahala. Up 16th Av.
Yeah when are you guys free? I'm free pretty much all day weds - fri

[battleversiontc]

im free whenever

[fuji]

When are going to install the alarm???:bow::eyebulge:

[battleversiontc]

just let me know when ill most likely be free and maybe i going find out if my girl take one of the other cars and maybe ill bring mine down maybe that is if she like give em up for a day

[Taiyaki]

Hows about this weds and thurs, afternoon to whenever you need to leave? Im not sure how long it will take to install everything, maybe just one day?
Is that good for you?

[battleversiontc]

alarm should take like an hour door locks prolly an hour dont know on the windows never installed one always bought oem that one may take a while cause windows are a bitch to install but ill be along for the alarm and door locks well you guys decide let me know i cant do em on weds day i got something i gotta do maybe thurs and afternoon meaning 12 right cause everyones afternoon time is different

[Taiyaki]

^yeah im sure if me and thomes put our heads together we can put the power windows in. The locks and alarm is what I have no idea how to install. I tried once and totally failed. But you can just let me know if you can on thursday.

[battleversiontc]

oh i definetly can on thursday

[Taiyaki]

thursday it is! I have no class or work, so when ever you want is all G with me.
and see if thomes will help me with my windows. Oh do you or thomes need anything? wire taps, i have no idea what else is needed. But I can pick them up.

So who else is coming? fuji you also coming? see how much pizza to get. haha

[battleversiontc]

ill bring my connectors and stuff no need no wire taps i never use wire taps for alarms

[808_Yaris]

i'd be interested to watch O_O haha this seems like mini meet

[Taiyaki]

Haha ok Im going to buy costco pizza, its bigger and cheaper.

[808_Yaris]

what time are you starting?

[gwasabi]

Thursday?! T-T I get work all day ahhahahah I can check out the power windows some other time if you already got the equipment

[Taiyaki]

what time are you starting?

Idk when ever battleversiontc (I dont know your name) is good to go.

Thursday?! T-T I get work all day ahhahahah I can check out the power windows some other time if you already got the equipment

Yups I have all the stuff, so when are you free?

[PETERPOOP]

did someone say pizza?

[battleversiontc]

my name is devin by the way but anyways can do em thursday what time you going be available like 10-11-12 name your time

[gwasabi]

I can do em tuesday next week after noon but i only have until six gotta pick up my girl after that

[battleversiontc]

why i only got til 5 before i gotta get home why you no come out yoshi on thursday

[Taiyaki]

my name is devin by the way but anyways can do em thursday what time you going be available like 10-11-12 name your time

11am sounds good

I can do em tuesday next week after noon but i only have until six gotta pick up my girl after that

Ill try look over how to install the power windows tom'w, and if it looks too hard then we can do um next tues, yeah i have work at 5 or 6pm. So should work out.

[battleversiontc]

ok shoots and you live on 16th ave huh

[Taiyaki]

yes sir, up the mountain. ill give you my address and how to get there later.

[battleversiontc]

shoots sounds good just pmme

[fuji]

Oh well, I guess I will have to wait till the next install.

[battleversiontc]

ah lose money why dont we just make em on one day everyone can come out

[Taiyaki]

Yeah whenever is fine with me

[battleversiontc]

ok shoots lets make em next week then when can peepo meet up give me some days and then well work somthing out so we can have one mini meet and greet or whatevers cause i cant do em on thurs my girl just told me i get one bday party to go to

[Taiyaki]

shoots thats fine with me

[Taiyaki]

So we still all good for this thursday install day?

[haku]

^ let me know how that goes. i might need to go with a base and install the power shits and tach. tach's not hard yeah?

[Taiyaki]

tach is easy, mines just was alittle hard but Devin helped me out and now I can help you.

[haku]

rojah. you ordered the parts for the power locks and windows right? how much was it?

[Taiyaki]

It was 310shipped.

[battleversiontc]

damn 310 shipped how much was the power window stuff only i know the door locks are like 50 bux at bestbuy

[Taiyaki]

I think power windows was 120. And power locks w/keyless entry was 140. And shipping was around 40. Oh yeah also bought a unlock switch since the kit only comes with remotes.

[haku]

wait, i just realized this morning looking at my side views... are you adding on power mirrors too?

[Taiyaki]

^I might later on. but not sure if i need them

[gwasabi]

no need power mirrors so lazy you guys

[battleversiontc]

i have power folding mirrors haha and power mirrors and yes im very lazy lol plus to power mirrors are cleaner looking cause you dont have the adjuster sitting on the other side

[gwasabi]

Hahaha true true im glad my car came with power mirrors hahaha

I heard it's a bitch installing the power mirror motors though....good luck with that! lol

[battleversiontc]

nah there not that hard i did em for a friend with a xb it was the same as putting the folding mirrors motors in

[gwasabi]

man devin nothings hard for you! your a Genius! hahahaha

[battleversiontc]

i just have a lot of time on my hands to figure shit out

[Taiyaki]

man devin nothings hard for you! your a Genius! hahahaha

you got your seat belt chime to stop, "your so genius you amaze yourself" hahaha funny stuff.

And when are you going to help me install my power windows?

[gwasabi]

Whenever I think I get time tomorrow morning if u like

[battleversiontc]

tomorrow 11 oclock so long the weather looks alright today was looking kinda sketchy

[Taiyaki]

word, looked like it was going to rain all day. but yeah you got my number just hit me up tom'w if you get lost finding my house.

[battleversiontc]

yeah ill call you up if can make em or not cause right nows i dont know

[Taiyaki]

I thought I would post here before going to the "DIY section"

So me and Gwasabi tried to install power windows. we got it all wired up BUT couldnt find a power source to tap to that wouldnt blow a fuse! I tapped it to pretty much every wire on the steering column and where we thought might work. But after blowing 2 fuses and 5 hours later we thought we better stop and find out.

So anyone know how we can do this? where to tap or get our power source from?

[battleversiontc]

theres the big fat black wire on the fuse block thats constant 12 volts or you can tap it into the the switch wire should be fine

[Taiyaki]

where is the fuse block? Is it behind the lower glove box thing where the tach wire is?

[battleversiontc]

yes sir sorry my bad i never answer your call i was the kine at one grad party and never hear my phone i was out in north shore side

[Taiyaki]

ok cool, I will try and finish tom'w. my gf is totally grossed out by my no door panel and gutted looking car... nah nah dont worry, just when we blew the first fuse, we had no idea why my tach and radio wasnt working. then found the blown fuse.

I took pics of me, Gwasabi, and Haku installing it. who wants to see? hahahaha funny stuff.

[Taiyaki]

Ok well I took a quick picture of what I think the fuse block is, and looked for fat black wire. and this looked like the fattest.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v520/02Sakura/P5110054.jpg

[battleversiontc]

its the one to the left of it

[Taiyaki]

This?!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v520/02Sakura/CopyofP5110054.jpg

Wow I didnt even know that HUGE thing was a wire. haha

[battleversiontc]

yeah thats a constant 12volt wire

[Taiyaki]

whoa sweet. Oh! also is it ok to tap the illumination wire to the red constant? just like we did with my tach? so the back light is always on.

edit: how would be the best way to tap that big wire? cut some rubber off and just twist the wire around it and tape it off?

[battleversiontc]

yup or you can find the alarm wires and tap into the red wire for the alarm thats also a 12volt constant that comes of the biggest harness on the alarm for the illumination wire i would tap it into the yellow wire off the alarm thats on the pack of wires that are all like stuck together so it turns off with the key

[Taiyaki]

Ok! ill give it a shot tom'w and will put my wheels on my car! will report back later tom'w with the good or bad news. Dude thanks again devin.

[battleversiontc]

no problem let me know when u get the alarm and stuff

[gwasabi]

Is that 12 constant always on? I was trying to tap into a source that only turned on when the car was on but I guess it doesn't matter

[battleversiontc]

the big black wire yes is 12volts constant theres another wire that is ignition only when the key is turned on which is the one that he uses for the tach light

[gwasabi]

Ok from what I can tell on the manual it says the power gos to ignition and the illumination switch goes to headlight or something. I think he needs to take the two wires apart. I think its blowing the fuse cause we have both the illumination switch and power wire spliced together.

[battleversiontc]

nah shouldnt not unless thats the main power it needs to move the windows

[gwasabi]

yups it is the main power.

[battleversiontc]

oh ok if its the main power you need constant 12 volts so hook em to the big black wire or the red wire off the alarm and the illumination is off the yellow wire coming off the alarm

[Taiyaki]

Ok when I tap to the big black wire it instantly blows the fuse, I did I twice just to make sure. Ill try tap it to the alarm red off the largest harness and the yellow off the one next to it thats all stuck together.

here we go!

[Taiyaki]

Ok hooked it up to the yellow and red wire of the alarm. and it blew the tach/radio fuse, but the power window was working, even with the car off it worked. then it stopped. Im not sure if I blew two fuses, but i replaced the tach/radio fuse and tried again.
It blew the fuse again, so i took the illumination tap off the yellow wire and replaced the fuse, and tried. It didnt blow the fuse but it still wont work. No power. But im not sure if I blew two fuses, everything seems to work.

edit: Pulled and checked all the fuses in the inside and all good. quite confused

[battleversiontc]

ok so one of two things either it draws to much current or something is grounding out in the unit itself

[Taiyaki]

I was thinking. Could I tap it to a 25 fuse and put it in the empty power window slot?

[battleversiontc]

try hool em up to the battery straight

[Taiyaki]

ok ill try that now.

Ok total newb question, the wire wont reach to the engine bay, I dont know what gauge wire it is. could I use a smaller or bigger wire? or does it have to be the same gauge?

[Taiyaki]

Ok tired to hook it up straight to the battery. and it blows the fuse. haha

[battleversiontc]

can be smaller just to test it out

[Taiyaki]

Ok yeah it blew the fuse that is connected to the red wire.

[gwasabi]

maybe the illumination wire, you gotta run a fuse through it too..... not too sure though

[yaris-me]

Buy a cheap multimeter and check for ground fault with the wire and the alarm. If there is a ground fault, the alarm is no good.

[battleversiontc]

:laughabove:
wow not even close to what we are trying to figure out

[Taiyaki]

^ I have a multi meter but yeah, not trying to work my alarm.

ok another thing i was thinking about. maybe we wired it wrong. i will try draw out in detail what we did.

[Taiyaki]

Ok my drawing failed. here are pictures

the guide:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v520/02Sakura/gyuide.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v520/02Sakura/P5120078.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v520/02Sakura/P5120080.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v520/02Sakura/P5120081.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v520/02Sakura/P5120083.jpg

[Taiyaki]

Ok I'm going to try hook up a relay. See if it will still blow fuses.

Which and where is the ignition wire? Haha

[battleversiontc]

try tape up the metal parts the spark might be jumping

[Taiyaki]

hey where is good places to tap my relay?
I bought a SPST relay. I was planning on tapping the "30" straight to the battery, "85" of course grounded, "87" to the power window red wire, and "86" to the Ignition wire (maybe tap the the yellow wire on alarm).

How does that sound devin?

[battleversiontc]

that sounds good

[Taiyaki]

Omg yes. Finally works. Now just need to do the passenger side and clean up the wires because it's a mess. I will pick up the viper alarm tom'w. And I'll ask them about power locks also.

[808_Yaris]

post some pics!

[Taiyaki]

haha i will post some tom'w when i finish working on them.

hey devin I went down and asked about the power lock kit and showed them the ones I have. They told me that I could use the ones I have and thats the power lock kit and keyless kit is separate. They just said that once I install the lock that just connect the brown and purple wire to the viper.

So whenever your free again, Im going to pick up the new viper alarm tom'w, and should be finished with my power windows. Im not sure about the Clifford wires, but I will try and clean up the power window wires (It a mess!)

[battleversiontc]

oh ok sounds good

[Taiyaki]

Ok picked up the Viper 5002. And will finish putting the power windows on today. Ill also take some pics.

Oh devin, I forgot to save your number, and lost it in my phone. But let me know when you can come over again.

[Taiyaki]

Here is the pic I promised. haha

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v520/02Sakura/12-1.jpg

[808_Yaris]

Nicee. Do you have to cut a section in your door panel now for the switches?

[Taiyaki]

yup i was going to do that last night, but some crazy guy who lives across the street had a knife or somthing and the cops said to stay in my house...

[gwasabi]

Wow thats some crazy shit man

[Taiyaki]

tell me about it, crazy new people.

[Taiyaki]

Oh What guage wire and fuse should I use to connect my power straight to the battery? Right now im just using a thin wire just to test it, but people said to get thicker wire and stick a fuse over there.

[battleversiontc]

should be the same size as the wire coming off the unit