I think the stock Yaris has enough power [Archive] - Toyota Yaris Forums

ChinoCharles

05-12-2009, 01:09 PM

or do they

Every vendor on these forums might hate me for saying it, but if I could do it all over again I would have kept the car stock and saved for FI. Without boost the car is straight line slow. I don't give a shit how many paychecks you bolt onto it.

Same could be said for GOOD coilovers and speed around a road/autox course.

ROCKLAND TOYOTA

05-12-2009, 01:12 PM

Without boost the car is straight line slow. I don't give a shit how many paychecks you bolt onto it.

:thumbsup: sucks for those people who bought this car to be a speed demon.:rolleyes:

ChinoCharles

05-12-2009, 01:15 PM

Andy... Midol... now! You're in that mood again.

regal

05-12-2009, 01:17 PM

Where I live it is all sharp turns and hills, plenty get-up and go for me. I really don't see the need for FI and 93 octane. Maybe +10 hp

ROCKLAND TOYOTA

05-12-2009, 01:17 PM

Andy... Midol... now! You're in that mood again.

SORRY (opens bottle, takes out 3 pills, drinks water)

staticorex

05-12-2009, 01:31 PM

You're kinda right. I/H/E doesn't do a whole heck of a lot but then again neither does the sc. The turbos are a completely different thing though. Still with the sc turned off I can't stand how slow it is. So... :iono:

Plus, +10-20whp on a 2000lb car is significant.

TheRealEnth

05-12-2009, 01:31 PM

Midol!@#!#

Aothachos

05-12-2009, 01:35 PM

I didn't know nothing about cars and this is my first car ever, but after i got this car i realized everything about power and yes its not enough power for me so i did mod it, i got a little bit more pickup but i just like modding it because i can experiment with it until i get my next car. Otherwise I would've gotten a scion tC or a civic si brand new or suttim fast for just a couple thousand dollars more

ROCKLAND TOYOTA

05-12-2009, 01:36 PM

^ FAST and TC in the same sentence? :iono:

NJBob

05-12-2009, 01:37 PM

Slow? NO! My '84 Prelude only had 100hp with twin weber carbs. Street speed is relative. With the average mom and pop out there on the streets farting along I get passed and around any line of traffic and hang with any 70-80mph freeway speed. It accelerates fine for on ramps and gets me away from the herd with no problem. No, it's not gonna win in the 1/4 mi. but if that's what you want get a Mustang GT for $22k.
As far as improving aspiration...a 10-15% increase in HP is a good improvement on a 2200# car. I don't need it but if I had a few bucks I'd do it. :smile:

BailOut

05-12-2009, 01:44 PM

regal

05-12-2009, 01:48 PM

What does a CAI, Header, test pipe, and cat back gain you with this car?

ChinoCharles

05-12-2009, 01:52 PM

What does a CAI, Header, test pipe, and cat back gain you with this car?

Dyno the car stock, install the aforementioned accessories, dyno it again and let us know. :wink:

ChinoCharles

05-12-2009, 01:54 PM

Brian... food for thought.

http://gas2.org/2009/02/27/popular-mechanics-5-turbocharger-innovations-for-fuel-efficiency-and-power/

kngrsll

05-12-2009, 02:06 PM

im pretty satisfied with the power... the suspension, LOL

toyo

05-12-2009, 02:44 PM

wooooow why would you buy a yaris and modd it?

anyway, get a v8 if you want real power, and use your yaris for transportation purposes only, while saving money on gas :headbang:

:smoking:

ROCKLAND TOYOTA

05-12-2009, 02:48 PM

severous01

05-12-2009, 02:51 PM

wooooow why would you buy a yaris and modd it?

anyway, get a v8 if you want real power, and use your yaris for transportation purposes only, while saving money on gas :headbang:

:smoking:

i agree...that's why i have my 500hp camaro, my lifted jeep for fun in the mud, and the yaris...

and yes i'll have a bike soon, thinkin 2009 yamaha r6. 200mph on a 450lb bike aint bad.

ChinoCharles

05-12-2009, 02:56 PM

get a v8 if you want real power

I mean, really? That is so 1958 of you. :laugh:

1stToyota

05-12-2009, 03:27 PM

Might sound crazy but this is one peppy torquey little engine, its lightweight body gets propeled just fine for me. I can' imagine headers, test pipe, and a cat back make much of a difference or do they?

Well, with tune and CAI they didn't make that much difference (certainly not worth the $$$) on GTOs like mine unless you also went with cam and heads, then you'd get around 450whp, all motor.

ROCKLAND TOYOTA

05-12-2009, 03:39 PM

Well, with tune and CAI they didn't make that much difference (certainly not worth the $$$) on GTOs like mine unless you also went with cam and heads, then you'd get around 450whp, all motor.

:iono: ALWAYS an american car comparison with this one here......

1stToyota

05-12-2009, 03:39 PM

No one gets a trophy for getting to a red light first so speed is not an issue for me. This car can pull hundreds of pounds of people and gear over mountain passes so torque is not an issue for me.

I've done absolutely nothing to gain any speed or torque and I have never failed to get where I was going in a reasonable time and manner.

This proves that the car does indeed have enough power. Some folks want more power, but want is a long way from need.

99% of the driving population probably don't drive like you do...see them zoom by you every day? I do, and I drive 65-70mph
Driving habits are hard to change and most people have too much else to worry about to stay glued to a scan gauge's every movement.
If a John Deere can pull a length or two on you during every launch, then yes, the Yaris is all any one would ever need. :rolleyes:

ChinoCharles

05-12-2009, 03:42 PM

Driving habits are hard to change and most people have too much else to worry about to stay glued to a scan gauge's every movement.

So if BailOut was busier he might not care so much about conservation? :laugh: :rolleyes:

1stToyota

05-12-2009, 03:46 PM

:iono: ALWAYS an american car comparison with this one here......

It's a mod comparison :tongue:
Minor bolt-ons on a 6.0 didn't make a whole lot of difference, not until you got serious with heads and cam, or juice, or forced induction, so I doubt it'll do much when you're starting point is about 100hp to work with, instead of 400hp.

1stToyota

05-12-2009, 03:58 PM

So if BailOut was busier he might not care so much about conservation? :laugh: :rolleyes:

No, when most people drive, not every single action, thought and movement is devoted to squeezing every single tenth of a cent out of the money being spent on their next tank of fuel.

The point wasn't about conservation, it was about BailOut saying that no one needs more power, they just want it, but they more than likely don't drive like BailOut, and never will; that was my point. :smoking: :burnrubber:

staticorex

05-12-2009, 04:09 PM

It's a mod comparison :tongue:
Minor bolt-ons on a 6.0 didn't make a whole lot of difference, not until you got serious with heads and cam, or juice, or forced induction, so I doubt it'll do much when you're starting point is about 100hp to work with, instead of 400hp.

Nice to know someone else here has a goat too, but i/h/e with a good tune gives you a full 100 more whp. Who do you have tuning your GTO?

toyo

05-12-2009, 04:56 PM

haha I know, I didn't mean v8 for real power, can't believe I said that LOL

I love JDM/imports, especially 4 cylinder N/A vehicles with 200+ hp (type r civic/Integra, s2000 etc.)

buy then again evos and sti's freaking rock, and don't get me started on supras!!!! :bow:

just don't waste your money modding a yaris if you want to hit low 11's on your DD :P

I like my yaris, buy i'm using it to save money for a race car, my passion :P don't care if It takes years... :smoking:

I just hate people passing me on their 3 cylinder even smaller and slower cars as if they were driving a big ass truck!

1stToyota

05-12-2009, 04:57 PM

Nice to know someone else here has a goat too, but i/h/e with a good tune gives you a full 100 more whp. Who do you have tuning your GTO?

I sold the Goat. Ed Wright does the tunes on GMs around here. I never did the cam, but most that I saw that did got a little over 400hp at the wheels, and 450whp with heads. Some of those Goats were pretty fast. Lots of 11's...I remember one member's blue GTO was into the 9's and still streetable.

staticorex

05-12-2009, 05:00 PM

^ A shame you sold yours. And yeah 400whp is about what I'm used to. It's just 3 grand for 100-125whp gain is better than the 2,200 I spent on my 25ishwhp sc. :p

1stToyota

05-12-2009, 05:54 PM

^ A shame you sold yours. And yeah 400whp is about what I'm used to. It's just 3 grand for 100-125whp gain is better than the 2,200 I spent on my 25ishwhp sc. :p

My brother went full Kenne Bell kit on his Mustang GT for about 6 grand and gained about 150 whp and about 5 grand on his SRT-4 and gained about 200 whp. I never wanted to spend that much on the GTO mods and demodded it before I sold it...I'll leave 'em stock from now on.

staticorex

05-12-2009, 06:04 PM

Wow. what'd he do to the srt-4?

1stToyota

05-12-2009, 06:27 PM

Wow. what'd he do to the srt-4?

Mainly this:

Stage 4 (http://www.agpturbo.com/product.php?productid=16269&cat=311&page=1) ... don't know exactly what options he chose, plus turbo-back exhaust..

His 4.10 geared KB Mustang didn't have the top-end, but there wasn't much my GTO could do against that SRT-4 :mad:

staticorex

05-12-2009, 06:29 PM

Damn. What was his total whp and weight?

1stToyota

05-12-2009, 06:49 PM

Damn. What was his total whp and weight?

I'd have to ask to be exact, but I'm pretty sure it was 430-440 at wheels and weight should be 2,900-3,000 I believe.

ROCKLAND TOYOTA

05-12-2009, 06:50 PM

2 of those NEONS rip around here as well......

staticorex

05-12-2009, 06:50 PM

Nice.

Sorry for the threadjack btw. o:)

whooppee777

05-12-2009, 07:13 PM

Otherwise I would've gotten a scion tC or a civic si brand new or suttim fast for just a couple thousand dollars more

i beat a tc this weekend that had an exhaust, intake and other bolt ons........going up hill and only giving it about 75% throttle.

tc...fast?

staticorex

05-12-2009, 07:16 PM

Really? You need to get me those dyno #'s. :p

whooppee777

05-12-2009, 07:21 PM

i need to solder my connections between the fuel controller and the ecu. sometimes when i go full throttle a signal gets lost or something and i lose the supercharger competely. that seldom occurs but theres no point in getting it dynoed if in the middle of a pull i lose all power. once thats done i will get it dynoed. the light weight konig heliums have helped too

staticorex

05-12-2009, 07:22 PM

That sucks. Get it fixed! :p

toyo

05-12-2009, 07:29 PM

bad ass SRT-4!

ChinoCharles

05-12-2009, 07:34 PM

SRT4's are nooooo joke man. Those get straight line quick with minimal effort. We have guys in the club doing 11s in Neons. :laugh:

whooppee777

05-12-2009, 07:36 PM

but at the end of the day...its still a neon

ChinoCharles

05-12-2009, 07:39 PM

... doing 11's.

I don't buy that logic. Those cars are f'n awesome.

At the end of the day, its still a Yaris? :laugh: If its fast its fast!

whooppee777

05-12-2009, 07:44 PM

touché

i just wouldnt buy one

ROCKLAND TOYOTA

05-12-2009, 09:33 PM

i beat a tc this weekend that had an exhaust, intake and other bolt ons........going up hill and only giving it about 75% throttle.

tc...fast?

TC stands for tuck cock in my book.........

staticorex

05-12-2009, 10:07 PM

Why all the TC hatred? I mean, I get the Neon hating, but what's wrong with TC's? :p

mikenacarato

05-12-2009, 10:40 PM

Two kinds of people own/drive crotch rockets, assholes and bigger assholes. Sorry, had to say it.

so that makes me an asshole because i have a "crotch rocket"??? dont even get me started further with this...that was a very stupid comment.

Havoc

05-17-2009, 07:33 AM

Why mod a Yaris?
That's like asking why Leonardo da Vinci painted the Mona Lisa. He could have saved a lot of time and money just paying a bum on the street to sketch it really quick. But, his passion was to create beauty, in his own eyes, from a blank canvas.

Why modify your hair or clothes in the morning (stfu bald people)? Why put in time on a tread mill or working out your body? Why mow the lawn? If stock is good enough, you should be good to go in all categories.

It's a fun car to start with, so why not make it more fun, especially if it satisfies one's desire to put a personal touch on something to make it different or special. If nothing else, when you pass a stock Yaris on the road, you can imagine the other driver thinking, "I didn't see those options" or "That must be the S model..."

Havoc

05-17-2009, 08:05 AM

EDIT: Oh sorry I went off a bit. I get this at work a lot. lol

BailOut

05-17-2009, 10:40 AM

Why mod a Yaris?
That's like asking why Leonardo da Vinci painted the Mona Lisa. He could have saved a lot of time and money just paying a bum on the street to sketch it really quick. But, his passion was to create beauty, in his own eyes, from a blank canvas.
Your argument does not support your idea. da Vinci created his own works. Bolting on other people's inventions is the equivalent of paying a bum to sketch things out, and having shops install things for you or having a body shop do things for you is the equivalent of paying a bum to both sketch things out and paint it for you; all you did was possibly gather some of the supplies.

The simple cosmetic things that some folks do require very little skill, if any, and are the creative equivalent of wrapping a gift.

Let's not embellish things.

staticorex

05-17-2009, 10:52 AM

Ha. Ouch. I see both your points though. I have to agree that my first modded car, which was just a nice car with random expensive upgrades installed by professionals got me nowhere near the praise I've received for my Yaris, which I have been far more subtle with and did the work myself.

frownonfun

05-17-2009, 11:06 AM

i have and will continue to mod my yaris. for speed and a custom look. don't see what's wrong with that. sorry i don't have the desire to drive like an old woman. and sorry i don't want everything on my car to be stock looking.

to me the stock yaris has enough power, yes, but why not make a hobby out of trying to make it faster. some of us actually like learning about and working on cars. why can't that car be the yaris? one could argue that no matter what car you are modding there is always going to be another one that's faster.

and btw i don't know that i've ever broke a sweat and bled while wrapping a gift.

staticorex

05-17-2009, 11:07 AM

and btw i don't know that i've ever broke a sweat and bled while wrapping a gift.

:thumbup: Nor have I ever looked at a wrapped gift with real pride for a job well done. :)

Mainly cause all my wrapping jobs look like crap. :p

yaris-me

05-17-2009, 03:57 PM

so that makes me an asshole because i have a "crotch rocket"??? dont even get me started further with this...that was a very stupid comment.

You're right. You are not an asshole. I'm thankful that you're an organ donor. 80% of the livers for transplant come from motorcycle traumas. I'm thankful for all the hearts, kidneys, lungs, pancreas and corneas. I thank you in advance.:w00t:

staticorex

05-17-2009, 03:59 PM

Ha. That's mean.

mikenacarato

05-17-2009, 10:46 PM

You're right. You are not an asshole. I'm thankful that you're an organ donor. 80% of the livers for transplant come from motorcycle traumas. I'm thankful for all the hearts, kidneys, lungs, pancreas and corneas. I thank you in advance.:w00t:

im not an organ donor. and plus the majority of motorcycle accidents happen because people in cars dont know how to drive. i cant count on 2 hands how many times ive almost been killed on the interstate alone because some jackoff doesnt check his blindspot. point being in my first statement is dont make a rash comment like what was said before because you cant always judge someone if you dont know them.

frownonfun

05-18-2009, 12:10 AM

im not an organ donor. and plus the majority of motorcycle accidents happen because people in cars dont know how to drive. i cant count on 2 hands how many times ive almost been killed on the interstate alone because some jackoff doesnt check his blindspot.

i'd have to agree. that's why i sold my scooter. although i am an organ donor i'd prefer not to be one any time soon.

Havoc

05-20-2009, 06:51 PM

Let's not embellish things.

I see your point, but lighten up man. :laugh: Sorry if that REALLY bothered anyone.

regal

05-25-2009, 12:22 PM

I don;t believe i've ever seen a thread go so far off track. This car has plenty of pep for my driving, I'de just wreck a faster car.

I which I caould find better handle out of thii car I have the TRD Shock..springs.Rear sway bar, and it is still dangerously understears. I'm going to try the camber bolts, whish I cauld find a DIY threard on the camber bolts.

But all in all 0-60 in under 8 seconds is fast enough for communting. The curves and hills on my commute are the issue. Nothing like my Koni suspensioned EG civic. The Yaris handling is quirky, very responsive but quirky and that damn understeer prevents me from testing the limits of the car.

frownonfun

05-25-2009, 07:55 PM

regal

05-25-2009, 09:29 PM

nah I properly setup FWD can be neutral

TheRealEnth

05-25-2009, 10:10 PM

nah I properly setup FWD can be neutral

what he said.... dam straight. You can make it good enough to be neutral on turns.... then it rocks =).

LittleRed

05-26-2009, 11:34 PM

Try an aftermarket intake.i bought an AEM..i did and it made a great improvement in Hp and TQ as well as using 91 octane gas..u have to give the chance for the ecu to adjust..once it does ..it becomes much quicker and still gets 40+mpg

RomGrr

05-27-2009, 01:17 AM

If I had to do it all over again, I would have waited and bought a Versa once they lowered the price. I got my Yaris in Feb 07 so it was quite some time away but I still think this car should have come with 130 hp. I love throwing my Yaris around the road but there are plenty of times that it's anemic qualities put a damper on my good time. I left a 3600lb 300 hp - 300ft/lb tq car for the yaris (Mid 90's Caddy ElDorado ETC, for those interested) so I'm probably just spoiled, but I've also owned a handfull of underpowered civics as well.

I still get speeding tickets in the Yaris though.

scape

05-27-2009, 11:25 AM

the geo metro was fine for scooting around town in. any car is really, if all that your doing is A->B

most are not as spirited as the yaris
though, I don't see too big a deal about understeer, you just have to plan the turns a bit more-- oversteer is where you can get into trouble.

regal

05-27-2009, 11:28 AM

, I don't see too big a deal about understeer, you just have to plan the turns a bit more-- oversteer is where you can get into trouble.

My point is I believe there is a way to eliminate the oversteer, people know but arem't talking :)

33OH

05-27-2009, 11:31 AM

My point is I believe there is a way to eliminate the oversteer, people know but arem't talking :)

PM Loren about it, he seems to be extremely knowledgeable when it comes to suspension.

cali yaris

05-27-2009, 12:13 PM

I believe there is a way to eliminate the oversteer,

I *think* you mean understeer, not oversteer. It's difficult (but not impossible) to give a Yaris oversteer handling. Easier to make it neutral (my preference), and we all know (I think) it's designed to have understeer (= go straight when you want to be turning), which is safer for novice and untrained drivers.

increase oversteer/minimize understeer

stiffen the rear (springs, braces, sway bar, etc)
raise the rear tire pressure
soften the front
lower the front tire pressure
... and more...

frownonfun

05-27-2009, 09:58 PM

i say just slow down when you are turning... it's way less expensive.

regal

05-28-2009, 09:57 AM

I *think* you mean understeer, not oversteer. It's difficult (but not impossible) to give a Yaris oversteer handling. Easier to make it neutral (my preference), and we all know (I think) it's designed to have understeer (= go straight when you want to be turning), which is safer for novice and untrained drivers.

increase oversteer/minimize understeer

stiffen the rear (springs, braces, sway bar, etc)
raise the rear tire pressure
soften the front
lower the front tire pressure
... and more...

Your right I meant understeer, seems there should be some rear bracing that would help I tried all the above.

rac23

09-03-2009, 09:52 AM

Have a CAI, TRD exhaust, underdrive crank pulley, tower bar, front and rear sway bars, light-weight 15-inch rims with 205s, TRD shocks and struts, a TRD quick shifter, and now a header goes on tomorrow. A few weeks ago I raced a completely restored 1963 Porsche Super 90 around the narrow, winding roads of Long Island (NY). When he finally caught up to me at a light, he was raving about how my car handled. Said he could hardly keep up with me. His car is now worth around $60K... Mine is just fun to drive.

regal

09-03-2009, 12:22 PM

I imagine with a supercharger but hows your gas milage?

ChinoCharles

09-03-2009, 12:49 PM

We don't need no stinking gas mileage! :laugh: :burnrubber:

echosqwat

09-03-2009, 02:15 PM

Your right I meant understeer, seems there should be some rear bracing that would help I tried all the above.

As one of the guys working on Echo performance back in 2001 here is what I did.

*Installed 26 mm Whiteline rear sway bar. Thats huge improvement.
*Instlled TRD rear stiffing kit. Cool factor but I'm not sure it did much to help with turning. Rear sway bar did that and rear tires really dont do much work on these cars. Think I would go front suspension bracing before rear.

*Intrax sport springs
*Koni Sport adjustable shocks
*Camber plate for front to allow camber adjustments.
*Front tower brace.

Rear bar really helps with understeer and also keeps front tires hooked up on exit of turns.

Next is to install lightest 15x7 wheels you can find with nice sticky tire like Falken RT615 or Bridgestone RE11, etc. Less rotating weight the faster you go in these cars. Probably would consider 14" whees as well. Just harder to find good tires.

I used Injen intake. Had cheap header and higher flow exhaust. It adds a little power but not much. I would say supercharger is best path with this motor.

The other big item for performance driving would be LSD. I could light up inside tire like crazy in turns. LSD would remedy that problem.

Lightweight flywheel is another good idea for the Yaris.

I'm looking to buy a Yaris in next several months so I'm putting together my must have mod list.:burnrubber:

My Echo slaughtered Porsches at autocross events and I suspect a well setup Yaris would be very similar.

advocate

09-03-2009, 07:31 PM

While this thread was created to discuss the power of the Yaris I think it quickly turned into an all around modding discussion about the car in general.

So on that general topic the two reasons I put money into my car is that: 1) It's my first car I've ever owned and I love it like it's part of me. 2) The car is small and light. The engine might not be much to show off stock, but the car can push some impressive numbers for sure if you really want it to.

And you also get the satisfaction of knowing that all the other stock Yarii you see on the road couldn't keep up with you even if they got a push start :thumbup:

Anyways just my .02.

JumpmanYaris

09-04-2009, 12:43 AM

Enough power for a Yaris small lil car

talcum

09-07-2009, 08:39 PM

The yaris is like a morris or mini 35 years ago. It has enough potential to allow it to autox while still being individualized. Most of you guys may not remember the dodge chargers rentals that were raced back then. They had no individuality at all; just the weld marks where the roll bar was stuck in for the weekend. I just wish the yaris was a little lower....

sqcomp

09-08-2009, 09:42 AM

I understand WHY we mod up the Yaris.

Because it is initially "inexpensive" and we want to see what we can do with it.

If I REALLY wanted a lightweight vehicle that has potential all around, I'll buy a Lotus Exige and boost that. I'd be happy to race a 400 HP Lotus versus a 400 HP Yaris any day of the week.

Of course there's a difference between the two, we all know that. That Lotus is made for the track and the Yaris is definately not.

YaYa1320

09-22-2009, 12:29 AM

I'm a die hard honda guy, I currently have 2 del Sol VTECs, a Element SC, have had turbo'ed swapped civics/integras etc... I bought my Yaris because at the time I needed a reliable DD and it was 4g's cheaper than a Fit. I am nothing but AMAZED that this little Yaris makes me so happy everyday I drive it, I have a AFE Intake, Megan axle-back, Megan coilovers, TRD rear sway, Nitto rear underbrace, Rota slips w/Kumho tires, and this thing handles like a go kart. My gf was suprised that we were hanging with a newer 330 BMW on the way back to MD from VA the other night down a twisty 20 mile drive!!! I passed him, then he passed me like WTF??? HAHA!!! He looked suprised I was right behind him in the corners with ease!!! He couldnt pull away... but obviously in a straight line I'd be SMOKED!!!:laugh:

Lafiro

09-22-2009, 01:04 AM

Yes exactly. Thanks toyo.

Stock Yaris does NOT have enough power. I mean try living in the city with most other cars being 160+hp. And everyone has no patience.

Hills you say? Makes it worse on the engine to probably keep it at 100% load just to keep at the same speed/maybe even while downshifting.

Are you seeing my point?

I like the car, the way it looks, and the way it handles, and the miles to the gallon was the selling point at the time for a first time buyer like me back in 2006.

I wish this car has 150hp/torque. Then it would be ++awesome++.

Galavoxx

09-22-2009, 01:09 AM

Or at least more awesome. :)

regal

09-22-2009, 09:56 AM

I'm a die hard honda guy, I currently have 2 del Sol VTECs, a Element SC, have had turbo'ed swapped civics/integras etc... I bought my Yaris because at the time I needed a reliable DD and it was 4g's cheaper than a Fit.:

Same here but I got my Yaris for $5k less than the Fit, there is no way the Honda is worth a 50% cost increase over the Yaris.

As far as 150 hp/tq, this would ruin the car. It would have higher insurance rates, be heavier, have less engine life span, and probably get 25 mpg.

Y@R15

09-22-2009, 11:03 AM

Might sound crazy but this is one peppy torquey little engine, its lightweight body gets propeled just fine for me. I can' imagine headers, test pipe, and a cat back make much of a difference or do they?

what is the fastest car you have ever driven? because a 16.8 is kinda slow if you ask me.

Same here but I got my Yaris for $5k less than the Fit, there is no way the Honda is worth a 50% cost increase over the Yaris.

As far as 150 hp/tq, this would ruin the car. It would have higher insurance rates, be heavier, have less engine life span, and probably get 25 mpg.you pay the extra 50% because it has a H on the front of the car.

allsooo heres the things with a light car like that about 150hp/trq would help you with milage alot. meaning you dont need as much power to move the car and get the rpms higher.the car being lightweight will get a bit more pep from 50hp. youd also not be too much faster but you will notice in a 2400lbs car.

Lafiro

09-22-2009, 11:36 AM

Yes regal honestly what is the fastest car you have been in?
1liter something or another?

I come from always being in Mercedes and pretty much every other car other then a Yaris 100hp.... And I LOVE the feeling of an AMG car pushing you into your seat.

Here is one from just 3 days ago. E55 AMG, being modified with a larger TB, changing out the supercharger pulley(i know I cant spell right now, yawn), and other stuff.

Then I also get to drive my friends S600, 530HP to the wheels, and somewhere between 600-700+torque to the wheels. Its amazing honestly. Doing 60mph, wanting to go around someone, and too much gas will propel you past them at an unbelievable speed. Not something that has to be ever used, but its there!

Then when I get back in my Yaris, Its slow, no leather, but damn it does REAL GOOD on gas and thats ALL I worry about, that and it looks good either way!!!!!!!

regal

09-22-2009, 11:46 AM

Yes regal honestly what is the fastest car you have been in?
1liter something or another?

!!

I used to DD a 12 second Buick Turbo REGAL, silly question to ask someone with my screen name.

posaunemeister

09-22-2009, 04:52 PM

So... I just took my BOMZ CAI with 3" Spectre cone filter out of my Yaris and reinstalled the stock airbox, and needless to say, there was a small yet very noticeable loss of power (according to my butt dyno). However, I've modified the snorkle and added PVC extensions (with rubber elbows) that lead right up to my bored-out fog light cover (that is covered with porch screen mesh). I'm planning on purchasing a drop-in filter in the near future.

I did this knowing well that there would be a power loss, but I got tired of my intake being noisier than my mild mannered exhaust. That definitely did the trick.

regal

09-23-2009, 11:31 AM

So... I just took my BOMZ CAI with 3" Spectre cone filter out of my Yaris and reinstalled the stock airbox, and needless to say, there was a small yet very noticeable loss of power (according to my butt dyno). .

The butt dyno is about 90% psychological, no way anyone would be able to tell the difference between stock and a CAI if they weren't told what is in the car.

Does anyone have quarter mile time improvements by doing a CAI + Headers + exhaust upgrade ? IME some cars can come down a second or so.

ROCKLAND TOYOTA

09-23-2009, 11:53 AM

Does anyone have quarter mile time improvements by doing a CAI + Headers + exhaust upgrade ? IME some cars can come down a second or so.

that would mean someone would actually have to take it to a track.....

Y@R15

09-28-2009, 03:10 PM

that would mean someone would actually have to take it to a track.....

and remember your not there to race anyone your there to test your vehicle. but the stock times for a yaris from motor trend is suppose to be

0–1320 ft (1/4 mile) 16.6 sec @ 84.4 mph

dont feel bad if your a lil slower then that. they are professionals. but you get to learn how to launch and you will be shaving 10ths of secs off soon.

LittleRed

09-30-2009, 11:28 PM

Might sound crazy but this is one peppy torquey little engine, its lightweight body gets propeled just fine for me. I can' imagine headers, test pipe, and a cat back make much of a difference or do they?

The best thing ive ever put on the yairs is a AFE cold-air intake..it makes an amazing difference in torque and also using 91 octane gas and regurally using fuel system cleaners..mine is a little screamer now...you do have to give the cold air intake a few miles for the ECU to adjust to more air...youll be amazed at the difference... i was...and its much faster with the a/c on...its no longer choking for more air...it was definately worth the 150.00

frownonfun

09-30-2009, 11:30 PM

cold air intake for yaris = placebo... imo.

tomato

09-30-2009, 11:45 PM

^ Frownonfun, I really like your new sig
(I meant the row of Yarii :smile: )

frownonfun

09-30-2009, 11:53 PM

thanks. its from our recent texas meet. just wish we could have gotten a pic like this of everyone's car who showed. it would have been like 10 yarii or more.

lilredrocket

10-01-2009, 02:51 AM

Our pic is a little patriotic and we are surrounding his because one its blue and went in order and we put a s/c on his car so its pretty much a badass!!

frownonfun

10-01-2009, 11:43 PM

yeah in hindsight we should have put the red cars on the outside, followed by the white to the inside and mine in the center... you know... red white blue.

lilredrocket

10-02-2009, 12:12 AM

The colors are there is that not enough? Haha

YaYa1320

10-03-2009, 12:08 AM

Little Red is correct, I put 93 in everytime, and def notice a increase with intake and exhaust over stock and 87 when I NEED to get out in busy traffic and need to beat my YAYA to get up to speed, there is no hesitation at all and the car seems to pull a little harder, my GF even noticed the difference when I had to merge onto the beltway in rushour last week, plus it sounded GOOD!!! BWAHHHH!!!:headbang:

Goose

10-03-2009, 01:25 PM

In my youth, I screwed up some perfectly good cars with mods. After pouring far too much money into them, the cars were actually worth less. How's this for stupid: tearing out the fuel injection to install side-draft carbs?

I learned quite a bit from modifying my cars - even a bit about auto mechanics. In the end, it seems that modifying one's cars is part of growing up... :smile:

RacerFreakXXX

10-03-2009, 01:36 PM

There are a few types of people. People who lightly mod their cars and sell them 3-5 years, people who buy expensive cars because they sell them 3-5 years so modding a 30k car to be a 60k car is not worth it, people who are happy with a stock car, and people who modify the crap out of their car because the want to keep it till it dies because they love it so much. You have to choose what is best for you and your plans with the car before you buy it ;)

I chose the yaris because I can dump 5-6k into it and have it be as fast as a small v6 and get gas millage better than most 4cyl. I also am paying 0% apr for 60months so I figure all the money I would of dumped into a 7-9% apr is better spent on my car. If the yars hadn't had a 0% apr I would have gotten a civic si or a scion tc and only spent about 2k on basic mods.

westgl

10-18-2009, 02:42 PM

I bought My 09' Yaris It is an Automatic, it has plenty of Horsepower & Torque, Mine has the factory upgraded 195's Goodyear tires, the suspension I thought was very soft and a little bouncy.
My only Mod was a rear swaybay, this settled down the soft suspension, took away that super soft bouncy feel, and made handling much, much, much!!!! better, but it still has the comfortable ride with the stock springs, I like that I can roll over most stuff since it has good ground clearence.

Yaris is a great car, very manuverable.

Westgl

mikebdubsuby

10-19-2009, 04:28 PM

Me and the gf bought our Yaris because she liked the customer service at the Toyota dealership closest to us, and her 07 Corolla never had any problems right up until it was completely totalled, we got back more than we owed. It's a good car. It's a car for her, so I only gave input when needed, she originally wanted a Speed 3, which for obvious reasons, I would've rather got, but I like the Yaris so far, it's not like it's a super fast car or anything, but it is what it was meant to be, an economy car. Just my $0.02.

metalshark

02-23-2010, 08:24 PM

I modified my Yaris to correct the handling, improve the safety, and to improve the mileage. A lot of my friends didn't think much of my dirt cheap ebay upgrades and some told me I'd have trouble with insulated headers. I rarely use that extra 1,500 RPM of torque curve but when I do its still a lot more fun. With all synthetic lubes it took 20,000 miles to get this thing fully broken in. I average 41 MPG combined all the time now and I can drive hard enough on mountain roads to make the wife clutch the barf bag. Not bad for less than $13K.