Blitz owners: fuel controller question

[s3r3nity]

i've mentionned this in the other post but decided to make a new thread for it without the pretty pictures :biggrin:

so i've noticed that on the fuel controller it says AT tranny.
so i suspect that the fuel maps are different for AT and Manual.
but i'm wondering as to how different the fuel map really is.
maybe that's why some of you guys are showing some leaner conditions and others are not depending on the controller you received ?

i dont have a wideband yet so cant say how i'm running. :iono:

if you guys could look into it and post back that would be great.

thanks

[kurokoma-kun]

Interesting question. The sticker on mine says Transmission: MT / AT

[s3r3nity]

here's a pic

http://lh4.ggpht.com/_85h8zqChxBY/Sgxk2iPdWrI/AAAAAAAAANs/mGDgf7wzCDE/s512/100_0703.JPG

[cali yaris]

According to Toshi from Blitz (I called yesterday) "AT" covers both transmissions.

I'm now going to call again and ask about why there would then be a MT/AT sticker.

[s3r3nity]

thanks for your continued support Garm, and clearing out the unclear :)

[kurokoma-kun]

Mine also says "Type 6" (then 1NZ-FE, 2WD, then the MT/AT)

I never have had the lean condition, just knocking with 93 octane

Thanks Garm :smile: you're a good 'un

[PETERPOOP]

http://i416.photobucket.com/albums/pp250/tropicalsuckerpunch/IMG_0134.jpg

[s3r3nity]

interesting finds..

Garm, is there any way to get what the different type numbers are as well?

i wonder if toshi will have informative and descriptive answers to this.

although the car "sems" just fine, i'm getting anxious to get my gauges.

[PETERPOOP]

serenity, i can't really see, but does yours say "Type 2"?

something about them having fuel controllers that say "AT" "MT" and "MT/AT" and them telling us that "oh it doesn't matter. either one is fine" makes me scratch my head.

[s3r3nity]

yep, type 2, blurry picture sorry

[PETERPOOP]

Type 2 huh? Interesting, very interesting. When did you get your kit? Recently huh? I believe camell and maybe doc? were the ones that had one extra wire or something like that. We were thinking because they got their kits awhile before the new guys came along, that theirs might be a little different.

However, I don't think anyone has a type 2 fuel controller? I really wish you had a wideband! :P

[dallas]

Lets not go to Easy on Garm LOL :wink:. When he sold them did he ask what transmission the yaris had?

, thanks for your continued support Garm, and clearing out the unclear :)

[s3r3nity]

Lets not go to Easy on Garm LOL :wink:. When he sold them did he ask what transmission the yaris had?

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the question was never asked. if Garm had to specify when ordering, he would be asking when taking orders, i'm sure.

so i'm not pointing fingers at Garm but rather where he orders the kits from as they should be asking the question to him prior to sending out the kit.

but we still lack the knowledge about what the difference actually is.
so, before we know how much of a diffirence this makes, we are only gathering information about:

1- controller type #
2- different codes for tranny : AT/MT - AT - MT

so, is controller type a revision # ? or a different tune depending on other mods? type 1 = stock / type 2 = CAI etc etc ??


i'm curius as to how there could be a AT/MT ok for both and a Fuel map for AT and MT specifically, this doesn't make any sense to me.

[cali yaris]

email sent to Toshi about #1 and 2 above. I have expressed concern about what the Type # means and why would there be multiple trans designations if there is no difference between boxes.

I have been told that it doesn't matter what designation it has on the box, but I will ask, more strongly this time, again.

Lets not go to Easy on Garm LOL . When he sold them did he ask what transmission the yaris had?

Interesting comment. I sure didn't ask customers what they had; I had no idea I needed to. Still don't know, but I will continue to support the product and the customers until we know what we need to know!

[s3r3nity]

I will continue to support the product and the customers until we know what we need to know!

verry much appreciated, and again, thanks for your continued support :thumbsup:


any other owners with different type numbers other than 2 or 6 ?

[whooppee777]

mine says type-6 and MT/AT

doesnt run lean but does tend to knock from time to time

[LtNoogie]

Mine says AT on the fuel controller.

[cali yaris]

Toshi has passed on the comments and photos (thanks for posting those!) to Japan.

He agrees it is (at the very least) mysterious that there would be variable designations on the boxes. Will post the response when it arrives.

[whooppee777]

here's a pic

http://lh4.ggpht.com/_85h8zqChxBY/Sgxk2iPdWrI/AAAAAAAAANs/mGDgf7wzCDE/s512/100_0703.JPG

do you have any issues with the way the car runs with your s/c

[s3r3nity]

do you have any issues with the way the car runs with your s/c

I dont have any Issues that i'm aware of yet if any, as i dont have any gauges yet and i've been running it for 3 days whooppee.

auto-x this weekend :burnrubber: .. hopefully wont see any different !

i brought this up because of the AT sticker and me having a MT. so it's only to satisfy my curiosity and concern that i MAY run into problems.

but now i've realized that i'm the only one with "type 2" as well, wich also brings curiosity/concerns.

an other reason to bring this up is i've read all the posts about the "leaner" conditions, thought this might be a relevance.


Toshi has passed on the comments and photos (thanks for posting those!) to Japan.

He agrees it is (at the very least) mysterious that there would be variable designations on the boxes. Will post the response when it arrives.


thank you sir :thumbsup:

[whooppee777]

im hoping that redoing my wiring by soldering it and ditching the clips that come with the kit will get rid of the issues i have.

at wot sometimes i lose the s/c completely, when cruising on the highway i get random lean or rich a/f ratios. and i have had 2 instances of misfires from cylinder 2.

[LtNoogie]

They came in handy when I did the wiring for my gauges though.:smile:

[PETERPOOP]

Toshi has passed on the comments and photos (thanks for posting those!) to Japan.

He agrees it is (at the very least) mysterious that there would be variable designations on the boxes. Will post the response when it arrives.

anything new with this? :iono:

[cali yaris]

Yes. According to Blitz, what is inside the box (hardware, software, fuel maps, etc) is exactly the same in all cases, the labels on the outside make no difference for USDM Blitz Supercharger kits.

All I can do is relay the information.

[PETERPOOP]

all i can say is wow

[cali yaris]

I always thought blitz was a good company that would have good quality control

Interesting that you think this means they are not. I will pass on your comments, maybe they will be helpful.

[Morgan]

Mine says type 6, for xA/xB AT/MT - no problems so far... so long as I have plenty of methanol :)

[PETERPOOP]

well in this case, i am glad atleast mine says the MT/AT and not just AT!

[cali yaris]

well like I said I passed your comments on to Blitz and will report their response. If you were me, with Blitz' answer so far -- would you suspend sales because of the stickers on the fuel controllers?

I'm not being sarcastic, just to be clear, it's a real question.